KP savages Dems over “authoritarian censorship” of Fairness Doctrine
posted at 12:04 pm on July 4, 2007 by Allahpundit
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She conveniently neglects to mention Inhofe’s claim that her own candidate of choice is sweet on Fairness and she’s smoking something if she thinks any part of the blogosphere has the same reach as conservative talk radio. But never mind that; this is too hot for quibbles.
I told you once long ago that we’d end up luring her to the dark side. And now, fittingly on this Independence Day, I hereby solemnly declare — mission accomplished.
Apparently, democracy is a drag – but it’s nothing a little authoritarian censorship can’t fix…
Conservatives long ago adapted to life in a world where watching the network news or picking up one of the major news dailies is a virtual guarantee of having their views mocked, demeaned or misrepresented. If you’re a social conservative, multiply the odds by 100…
Liberals claim they just want “fairness” – but if that were so, they wouldn’t limit their concern just to talk radio, the one area where they’ve been shut out (by their own incompetence, mind you – Air America, the liberal talk-radio network, was a complete fiasco). They aren’t concerned that Americans “get both sides of the story” on abortion or embryonic-stem-cell research or abstinence training. They weren’t concerned about “fairness” when Katie Couric blamed evangelicals for the death of Matthew Shepherd.
They protest that the airwaves belong to the American people. They’re right – which is all the more reason to keep grubby government mitts off of them…
Back on planet Earth, people know that we live in a world that has more outlets and opportunities for opinions to be heard than at any time in history. Democratic leaders must know it, too – since they cower in fear from the vitriol and threats of a liberal blogosphere that easily rivals conservative talk radio in its ability to influence elected officials.
Exit question: Who are they going to get to be Michelle’s Democratic opponent on O’Reilly now?
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Allahpundit
If MM would just get you that iPhone, you would probably have a real chance to wow KP with your Uber-geekness, perhaps even ending up with a ……. dare I even suggest it… a date with KP…Oh…there I’ve gone and done it, I’m gonna get Allah hammered for sure now…
doriangrey on July 4, 2007 at 12:12 PM
I don’t like the exit question. Surely, both parties have to include people who disagree with much of their party platforms. If we reduce politics to a conflict between the two competing cults of liberalism and conservatism, our arguments will make only slightly more sense than the Sunni/Shia conflict.
I take pride that I’m a lousy conservative and an even worse liberal.
But the George W photo was a hoot.
thuja on July 4, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Exit question: Who are they going to get to be Michelle’s Democratic opponent on O’Reilly now?
Oh, come on, who else could it be?
She’s got TV experience…she’s got a proven track record increasing ratings…she’s not currently under contract to any other show…and it would be a hoot watching MM sticking it to her.
Yes, the time has come to bring in Unstable Mabel.
Carvin Guitar Man on July 4, 2007 at 12:23 PM
It’s just not Fair that no one will listen to them in a free market!
It’s not Fair!
(It is, however, bright.)
profitsbeard on July 4, 2007 at 12:26 PM
She’s spot on. Btw, I tried out the iPhone, and couldn’t resist. Mine is on its way. Is there a petition we can sign to get Allah one?
amerpundit on July 4, 2007 at 12:27 PM
That would be beyond awesome.
Allahpundit on July 4, 2007 at 12:27 PM
Awesome; I’m impressed.
Spirit of 1776 on July 4, 2007 at 12:28 PM
I don’t think she’s fully converted yet. She’s almost like an Olympia Snowe kind of Republican, though. If we can get her to lay some bricks at the southern (or northern) border we’ll have her for sure!
SouthernGent on July 4, 2007 at 12:30 PM
err, i thought we were the fredom fighters??? i surley recall seing a pic of Darth Pelosi\Vader around…
gberez on July 4, 2007 at 12:30 PM
KP also said the other night that the Libby trial was a fiasco and a waste of taxpayer expense…come on KP… we are calling…to resist is futile…
DCJeff on July 4, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Unstable Mabel? Michelle would destroy her. I totally wanna see that.
Bad Candy on July 4, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Exit question: Who are they going to get to be Michelle’s Democratic opponent on O’Reilly now?
Luis V Gutierrez(POS, chicago hse. rep.)..who a few weeks ago on MSM didn’t give Pat Bucannon a chance to comment on his remarks. Pat happens to be very gracious and courteous in live debates..something he is not..
Legions on July 4, 2007 at 12:39 PM
It ain’t complete till she’s the screen saver grrrl on your iPhone, Allah.
Wind Rider on July 4, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Hahaha. Just a matter of time.
Allahpundit on July 4, 2007 at 12:43 PM
The more I see the more I feel as if we are fighting over something more than right/left. It appears that 2007 is more like 1776 with every passing day. We once again have a King and royalty governing us it seems. the immigration debate was nothing short of a “Let them eat cake” moment.
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 12:44 PM
Yep.
amerpundit on July 4, 2007 at 12:46 PM
“Give Me iPhone or Give Me Death!”
Bad Candy on July 4, 2007 at 12:48 PM
Allah
I think she’s right about the influence of the blogosphere, at least their side of it. It doesn’t have the reach of talk radio, no, but it sure has the influence on Democrat pols.
Martin on July 4, 2007 at 12:49 PM
but it sure has the influence on Democrat pols.
Martin on July 4, 2007 at 12:49 PM
that my friend is because most liberal democrats are closet cowards
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Another soul saved…
I vote for Geraldo as Michelle’s permanent punching bag. Kinda like watching Rocky – I wince with every head shot, but somehow he just keeps jabbering.
T J Green on July 4, 2007 at 12:52 PM
KP is a good egg… and she tags a rotten one when she sees it. Disagree with her or not, gotta respect KP!
petefrt on July 4, 2007 at 12:53 PM
Michelle’s new liberal punching bag? Easy. Linda Chavez.
Purple Fury on July 4, 2007 at 12:55 PM
The question assumes Michelle is to remain on O’Reilly Factor. Seems her talent would be more useful in other arrangements which could include KP.
News2Use on July 4, 2007 at 12:57 PM
AP, I think you may have taken what she said out of context.
If anything, the Left blogosphere has more power than Right-wing radio. George Soros and other big donors exert their opinions through the blogosphere. Every liberal politician will bend over backwards (or forward) to appease them and keep that stream of cash coming in. Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham and the rest of conservative radio rely on the power of persuasion–not the power of the purse–and they have less real power as a result. This is why “conservative” leaders ignore them when it comes to government spending, illegal immigration, school choice, etc.
cmay on July 4, 2007 at 1:00 PM
I’ll be the judge of that – she has potential.
steveegg on July 4, 2007 at 1:00 PM
Eh, I’m not sure, KP tends to hedge her critique and return to liberal doublethink if its a Clinton or Iraq policy.
Bad Candy on July 4, 2007 at 1:03 PM
Fixed that for you. How long before she’s purged from her party? You know the brownshirts won’t tolerate any deviation from liberal orthodoxy. I still don’t get her support for the Cankles, though–KP really doesn’t seem like somebody that would go for rampant corruption at the top, while Socialism is rammed down the throats of regular Americans.
ReubenJCogburn on July 4, 2007 at 1:09 PM
The power of the left end of the blogosphere can be summed up in 4 words; “One vision, one purpose”.
steveegg on July 4, 2007 at 1:10 PM
Where are these types of leaders today?
No defections
Of the 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine died of wounds or hardships during the war. Five were captured and imprisoned, with brutal treatment. Several lost wives, sons and families. All were subject to manhunts and driven from their homes. Twelve signers had their homes destroyed. Seventeen lost everything they owned. Yet not one defected or went back on his pledged word.
The 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence proved by their commitment that they made no idle boast when they mutually pledged to each other “our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.”
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770703108
Have we depleted the gene pool of honor?
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 1:13 PM
Not so much depleted as diluted.
krakatoa on July 4, 2007 at 1:21 PM
unseen, some of that stuff might be inaccurate.
And no, it doesn’t diminish what they did in any way.
I figure I’ll point it out before some liberal who will revel in pointing it out does.
Bad Candy on July 4, 2007 at 1:24 PM
Not so much depleted as diluted.
krakatoa on July 4, 2007 at 1:21 PM
Yes it seems that our leaders like the Kings of Old have intermarried too much.
Thank God our Army and Masses continue to draw in new blood to keep the gene pool stocked full of Honor, Bravery, and Freedom.
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Kirsten somtimes just makes too much sense to then turn around and identify herself as a democrat. That party has morphed into something I can’t quite describe … even in war it refuses to join together with it’s rival for victory, as well as seeking to govern by manipulating what “we the people” hear, read and see.
I have no idea what it should be called … but Kirsten is on the money. Her “dark side” initiation is being planned as we speak.
darwin on July 4, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Another soul saved…
I vote for Geraldo as Michelle’s permanent punching bag. Kinda like watching Rocky – I wince with every head shot, but somehow he just keeps jabbering.
T J Green on July 4, 2007 at 12:52 PM
Hard for Michelle to debate with a person soon to be in a mental institution..
Legions on July 4, 2007 at 1:29 PM
Bad Candy on July 4, 2007 at 1:24 PM
off topic. did you see the report on Washington’s home last night on FOX’s Brit Hume’s show?
I was sick and had to turn the channel. On the eve of July 4th Fox decided to run a story on Washington’s slave quarters?
WTF? Talk about a below the belt punch.
As far as your post. I’m not sure what is the 100% real truth. I have not studied it in depth. I was pointing out that none went back on their word. Unlike our present day leaders who break their word the day after the elections.
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Yes, it’s called your checkbook.
Blake on July 4, 2007 at 1:33 PM
darwin on July 4, 2007 at 1:27 PM
I think both parties’ bases are very close in its core beliefs. I also think the elites use wedge issues to magnify the differences between the majority of Americans to maintain their power.
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 1:36 PM
Unseen nah, I missed Hume yesterday. Did they really do that? Can we just have one day where we just celebrate the nation without liberals telling us how much it sucks? I guess we know the answer…
And honestly, I don’t really know either if Snopes or that piece is right. Its true none of them sold out, and that alone is an important point.
Bad Candy on July 4, 2007 at 1:39 PM
Does it ever not rain on July 4th here!?! Swear its every year…
Bad Candy on July 4, 2007 at 1:41 PM
thats amusing, but is anyone really calling for the Fairness Doctrine at this point?
treyevans on July 4, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Bad Candy on July 4, 2007 at 1:39 PM
Yes seems like it’s making the rounds…here’s a link to a MSNBC hit piece on the subject.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19100886/
and from the post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/07/AR2007060701655.html
Exit question: Does the liberal media think we are too stupid to understand what they are trying to do?
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 1:46 PM
Notice the date on the Post and MSNBC stories are 06/07/07.
Why would the story hit FOX on 07/03/07?
Maybe the elites do not want us to study our Founders too closely after the immigration debate?
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 1:49 PM
treyevans on July 4, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Yes they are. They retreated some from where it first started but many Democratic and REP leaders are on record for this crap. It will come back in a flash if the Dems thought they could pass it without a fight. Right now it was a trial ballon but it will stay around until 2008 at least.
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 1:59 PM
Bad Candy on July 4, 2007 at 1:41 PM
Yea, I know what you mean, its coming down in buckets here…Oh wait no its not thats just the Corona bottle I’m looking through at the beautiful sunny SoCal sky…
doriangrey on July 4, 2007 at 2:00 PM
It’s a trap!
rw on July 4, 2007 at 2:01 PM
and it comes full circle:
Al Gore’s son busted for drugs in hybrid car
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0428148420070704?feedType=RSS&rpc=22&sp=true
LOL
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 2:01 PM
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 2:01 PM
Yea, but they were all anti-global warming eco-friendly drugs……
doriangrey on July 4, 2007 at 2:03 PM
Los Angeles Mayor Tony Villar does the nasty with a young Telemundo chica. Where is the Liberal Extremists outrage?
DfDeportation on July 4, 2007 at 2:03 PM
DfDeportation on July 4, 2007 at 2:03 PM
The only outrage any lib is likely to feel is that Los Angeles Mayor Tony Villar was doing the nasty with a young Telemundo chica and they werent……
doriangrey on July 4, 2007 at 2:06 PM
doriangrey on July 4, 2007 at 2:03 PM
Oh then it was ok then. Doesn’t pot give off CO2 when smoked? Just saying..
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 2:08 PM
doriangrey on July 4, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Shows a major lack of character IMO. That said the media will focus on the nasty and not on the character flaw. I mean what’s the big deal? Cheating on your wife and cheating on the voters it’s all the same isn’t it?
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Yes and on top the THC ingredient in pot gives an appetite which could cause flatulence, releasing more greenhouse gases. But hey since he was driving a hybrid it’s a-ok as the hybrid is the carbon credit balance equivalent.
On another note, having Albert as my father, I’d resort to illegal drugs as well.
warpmine on July 4, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Er, this isn’t an open thread, folks. If you want to chat, try the “Happy Fourth” thread.
Allahpundit on July 4, 2007 at 2:20 PM
Here’s my take on the Fairness Doctrine flap.
First, the idea that Democrats cannot get their messages out is ridiculous. Most institutions and media in this country that have a bias have a leftist bias. For example, our Government currently pays for a Liberal radio newwork–PBS. (Dr. Gary Saul Morson refers to it as “Demi-TASS.”) Also, in the last election 90 percent of Journalistic contributions went to Democrats. And Liberal newsmen outnumber Republicans 5 to 1. Then, of course, there is higher education. There Democrats outnumber Republicans 6 to 1 in colleges and universities.
Second, for reasons I will explain, I don’t think the threat is serious. I don’t even think re-enacting the Fairness Doctrine is a danger if the Dems win in 2008. Furthermore, I don’t think the three to one House vote to bar funds being used to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine should be a shock.
People usually act in their own best interests. So when groups gain political clout, politicians, generally don’t like to confront them. We saw this with Native Americans and gambling. Tribes now have so much financial clout that politicos try to pander to them. We saw this with Hispanic immigration. They are now our largest minority, so politicos try to pander to them also.
To me, it appears that talk radio has entered this large interst group category too. Rush reports having 20 million listeners a week. That means he probably has about 30 million people listening full-or-part-time. Factor in the other Republican talk show hosts and you probably have more than 50 million fans–many of whom are politically active, if only in voting. That’s a powerful force. It is an even larger force than Hispanic voters.
Indeed, before the illegal immigration bill, Congress received an unprecedented number of messages. There were so many that phones, e-mails, and faxes all crashed. And what was the end result? Eleven senators facing re-election in 2008 changed their votes.
Remember people tend to vote against candidates, not for them. Two sources I encountered reported Democratic polling found passing the immigration bill would have cost a number of Democratic senators and congressmen their offices. Then remember that a number of freshman Democrat House Members got elected by running to the right of their Republican opponents. Consequently, I don’t think many senators or congressmen are going to be stupid enough, unless they have a death wish or an incredibly safe seat, to confront such a strong interest group as Talk Radio.
Ultimately, I think we shall discover that the talk radio genie which was freed from the Fairness Doctrine bottle twenty years ago has grown much too strong to ever be put back in again.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on July 4, 2007 at 2:22 PM
The reason why people from both sides are crossing the aisle right here is because these are truly freedom and liberty issues unlike the smokescreen issues such as the patriot act. When you are saying a law doesn’t mean anything (illegal entry) or speech really needs, you know, regulation, it causes a more viceral reaction. This is how a 3rd party might be born, although I see no reconciliation on the role of the USA in the world from a otherwise liberal or conservative person. Ron Paul’s way is not the answer. Neither is Dennis K if you get my drift. It’s complex for sure.
pc on July 4, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Or they’ll be outraged that it was a chica he was doing it with.
ReubenJCogburn on July 4, 2007 at 2:24 PM
warpmine on July 4, 2007 at 2:19 PM
yeah didn’t think about the fart angle. Where is the environmental outrage here?
Plus all that food eaten by one person. What if it’s meat that is eaten. Shouldn’t PETA be part of the outrage?
And that food might have been grown at the expense of poor third world farmers due to are farming polcies that give big agro a leg up. Where is the outrage of the anti-capitalists here?
Hell this could get the whole damn left marching to Washington to demand ….what I’m not sure but they could be marching….
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 2:25 PM
Dream on, people. KP’s article was spot-on, but just because she recognizes that TV and print media are heavily left-leaning, doesn’t mean she’s not still a Democrat. It just means she’s not a moonbat.
(Although I do realize that the distinction is a hard one to draw nowadays.)
She’ll still be put on talk shows as the token Democrat. Especially, as mentioned somewhere above, if the topic is Clinton or Iraq.
stivv on July 4, 2007 at 2:26 PM
Allahpundit on July 4, 2007 at 2:20 PM
And on the day of Liberty free speech dies….it’s a shame I tell you.
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 2:27 PM
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on July 4, 2007 at 2:22 PM
All good points. But also remember that while some politicians will pander to groups, the politicians that are threatened will do everything in their power to silence the debate.
I like you agree that Talk Radio is too powerful to silence but that does not mean it’s enemies will go quietly into the night.
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 2:32 PM
stivv on July 4, 2007 at 2:26 PM
You do understand that not being a moonbat pretty much means your not a Democrat these days….Right???
doriangrey on July 4, 2007 at 2:34 PM
Who, but for Quibbles, could disagree with that? ;)
Ryan Gandy on July 4, 2007 at 2:38 PM
doriangrey on July 4, 2007 at 2:34 PM
The moonbats control the communication system of the dem party. This does not mean that all dems are moonbats. We should remember this and reach out to the sane ones and embrace our similarities instead of letting the moonbats and fat CEO’s divide us as a nation so that their pet projects can get ratified.
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 2:39 PM
Al Gore’s son arrested in Orange County, CA for speeding, possession of marijuana and prescription drugs. Too much Global Warming?
DfDeportation on July 4, 2007 at 2:39 PM
DfDeportation on July 4, 2007 at 2:39 PM
How much gas does a Prius use to go 100mph? How many carbon offsets will Al Gore need to buy to right the wrong that his son committed?
unseen on July 4, 2007 at 2:41 PM
Er, this isn’t an open thread, folks. If you want to chat, try the “Happy Fourth” thread.
Allahpundit on July 4, 2007 at 2:20 PM
Man I am so glad you said that…
Legions on July 4, 2007 at 2:49 PM
Only if somebody can cut her micro. You must be very load to get a word in if the fat one speaks.
SIJ6141 on July 4, 2007 at 3:05 PM
Unfortunately, I can see the same treatment in KP’s future, that Pat Cadell is getting now. If you’re not in lockstep with the moonbats, you’re against them. She may as well just join us.
Exit Answer: Big RO would probably love to work for FNC
PowWow on July 4, 2007 at 3:06 PM
What I want to sat is: The libs shout you down, do not give anybody else a cahange to speak and then claim that they won the debate.
SIJ6141 on July 4, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Alas, a thought that all-too frequently crosses the mind when Ms. Powers is the subject…
Blacklake on July 4, 2007 at 3:27 PM
Yeah, poor Quibbles gets dissed again.
Good one!
mikeyboss on July 4, 2007 at 4:00 PM
My thoughts too. This is the best of KP and she will be ‘rewarded’ for her intelligent and courageous thoughts, by her own.
The Fairness Doctrine – bring it on – the country is in a perfect mood for it.
This was my favorite part, among all others which were excelent
Entelechy on July 4, 2007 at 4:02 PM
We love you, Kirsten.
Halley on July 4, 2007 at 4:08 PM
KP? Who is KP? Enough with the insider acronyms.
DUTCH VanATL on July 4, 2007 at 4:11 PM
Fred Barnes should take notes. This week’s profiles in courage: John Smeaton who stood strong physically, running toward a fight rather than from, and Kirsten Powers, who stood strong intellectually, breaking with her party and showing integrity. An issue of genuine liberty both.
Spirit of 1776 on July 4, 2007 at 4:25 PM
KP has been doing a good job redeeming herself lately.
PBoilermaker on July 4, 2007 at 5:01 PM
Kirsten iPhone, the future girlfriend of allahpundit.
Blake on July 4, 2007 at 5:21 PM
I’ve stopped trying to reconcile blue-dog Democrats or old-school liberal-Mario-Cuomo-style Democrats with the modern leadership of the Democratic Party. Instead, I think of “Democrats” and “neo-Stalinists.”
Kirsten is a Democrat — occasionally right on the issues, usually wrong, but a patriotic American through and through. Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Boxer, etc, are neo-Stalinists. I must now regretfully add Feinstein to that list as well, given her enthusiasm over the “fairness” doctrine.
Oh, and Hillary Rodham “comrade” Clinton is the ultimate neo-Stalinist, given her enthusiasm for nationalizing health care.
Anton on July 4, 2007 at 6:20 PM
Dang, the cyborg fusion of Kirsten Powers and an iPhone truly would be the perfect woman/gadget for AP. Who wouldn’t enjoy pushing those buttons?
I just looked at the page about KP on
LeftiWikipedia, and the moonbats have obviously been at it. It says that she’s “a political conservative”, which is of course laughable to actual conservatives. She’s just a Democrat who isn’t insane, which naturally puts her at odds with the nutroots running her party.ReubenJCogburn on July 4, 2007 at 7:25 PM
I wonder if the libs are going to do to her what they did to Zell Miller and Joementum?
Kirsten, if you are reading this, you have a brilliant mind and keen insight. Well said.
Black Adam on July 4, 2007 at 8:20 PM
That article was a nice reminder that everyone on the left has not gone completely insane. But that photo was
littlereally creepy – anybody else notice how much Feinstein looks like Professor Umbridge in the new Harry Potter movie?Laura on July 4, 2007 at 9:05 PM
Kirsten is one of the few liberals who can talk and make good sense. Look at others like Bob Beckel, Ellen Ratner or Eleanor Clift. They are all BLINDLY liberal.
Either that or she is just so smokin’ hot that I would listen to her no matter what she said!
woodman on July 4, 2007 at 9:12 PM
A Fox News ‘Democrat’ attacking Democrats? In other news, water is WET. What a melodramatic idiot. “WAH LIBERALS DON”T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT BABY-KILLING ABORTION DOCTORS”.
Geez, grow up. Fox can sure find some spoiled brats for pundits.
The sad part about that statement is that you’re probably stupid enough to actually believe a pro-life conservative like Powers is actually a “liberal”. She’s more conservative than Guiliani and McCain put together.
Fragility on July 4, 2007 at 9:21 PM
KP? Who is KP? Enough with the insider acronyms.
Kirsten iPhone, the future girlfriend of allahpundit.
Blake on July 4, 2007 at 5:21 PM
PowWow on July 4, 2007 at 9:29 PM
It’s usually entertaining to have a liberal around here, but can you at least try to be a little more interesting? Basic standards count. If you don’t have anything more insightful to offer than, say, Rosie O’Donnell’s blog, people are better off just skipping your posts and going to Rosie O’Donnell’s blog.
Just to point you in the right direction, here are two easy things to avoid: Reflexively labeling people who disagree with you “stupid” (even if they are!), and the capslock key.
Blacklake on July 4, 2007 at 9:36 PM
Thank you, Fragility, for once again proving that the Democratic litmus test is abortion. Pro-life folks who favor progressive taxation, socialized medicine, and a whole host of big-government initiatives need not apply for membership in today’s Democratic party.
Trust me, I’m not a Kirsten Powers fan. I’m even less happy about seeing my fellow conservatives fawn over her because of her appearance. As a member in good standing of the vast right-wing conspiracy, I can assure you she is no conservative. But I *do* recognize that she and I share some basic American values, and that as much as we may disagree, she is no moonbat. I miss guys like Tip O’Neill and Mario Cuomo, whom I could respect even in the midst of vehement disagreement. Kirsten is cut from the same cloth as those old-school Democrats, although she is regrettably still a Clinton supporter.
As for being a “Fox News Democrat,” you guys should welcome her willingness to represent an opposing viewpoint on Fox. If you believe in the marketplace of ideas (neo-Stalinists, of course, do not), then Kirsten is doing valuable work for the Democratic party by appearing on Fox. I’ve never heard anything remotely similar offered to conservative commentors on NPR, unless you count Cokie Roberts as “conservative” simply because she isn’t an outright commie.
So drum Kirsten Powers out of today’s Democratic party, if you like, for the thought-crime of being pro-life and the fashion faux pas of occasionally wearing a cross necklace. But pardon us in the opposition for wondering just what the modern Democratic party stands for these days if you keep purging folks like her (or Zell Miller, or Joe Lieberman).
Anton on July 4, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Dude, don’t bother.
Jaibones on July 4, 2007 at 10:21 PM
Hate to break this to you, but the Democratic Party supported the Fairness Doctrine and abortion rights when KP was in diapers. So obviously it’s the same party. And Zell Miller? LOL. There isn’t a single issue where you could count him as being liberal or left-leaning. He’s a social, fiscal and foreign policy conservative. He was never a serious Democrat.
It’s especially funny hearing this from people who routinely claim that Lindsay Graham and John McCain are sell-outs and “not real conservatives”. Aren’t you tools the ones who are actually drumming people out of your party? Who even cares about Kirsten Powers? Would you even know who she was if not for the fact that Fox uses a push-over like her to represent the “liberal” point of view? She supported the initial invasion of Iraq, she supported Bush’s suspension of civil liberties and his torture amendments, she’s pro-life on abortion and embryonic stem cell research. The only reason she goes on Fox is to get air-time, not to defend any political party’s policies. You would be hard pressed to find an emptier suit in all of the cable media. She doesn’t make points or wage arguments. She sits there with a stupid smirk on her face and nods her head while Malkin talks.
That’s a fact, and you know it. Stop kissing her ass because you think she’s pretty. It’s getting pretty pathetic. If she was a man you people at Hot Air would mock her stupidity relentlessly. She’s almost as dumb as the Fox News Channel’s designated braindead Democrat, Susan Estrich.
Fragility on July 4, 2007 at 11:55 PM
Kirsten is Right!
God bless her.
Lawrence on July 4, 2007 at 11:57 PM
stop feeding the
fragilitytroll!!!!!urbancenturion on July 5, 2007 at 1:49 AM
“None are so blind as those who refuse to see.”
Seriously, AP. There are left-wingers who belong here because they have intelligence and viable points to offer. And then there is Fragility. Screeching, fuming, O’Donnellesque. Pull that trigger and put him out of our misery.
Freelancer on July 5, 2007 at 2:48 AM
Fragility on July 4, 2007 at 11:55 PM
Wouldn’t KOS be a better place to vent your madness?
Not too long ago the Democratic party was actually called the big tent and allowed people that were pro military and pro life within the party. Sadly those days are gone. While I’m not a huge Bush supporter nor do I care greatly about the GOP party it is the best of the two at the moment. I personally think that the GOP has been pushed too far left by the globalist CEO’s and the Dems have been push to far towards stalin’s dream by the likes of Moveon.org and Soros.
This IMO explains why both the GOP and left fear a person like Thompson because he speaks to the vast majority of Americans who are proud of our country, who want to defend our country, and who believe that our founding documents are as fresh today as the day they were written because they hold unassailable TRUTHS on man and on government.
KP is someone I respect simply because she does not follow the party line in lock step. ANYONE that follows their partyline in lockstep is not a true American.
It seems like your only point is that she is not a dem because she does not follow the party line. This is very stupid logic on your part.
unseen on July 5, 2007 at 3:28 AM
Any of you HA conservatives who engage in the name calling and childish antics have no room to talk when criticizing the daily liberal trolls.
You need to do to them what I do to you. It’s a little skill called “ignore”. When a person engages idiots they reflect a poor control of their own thoughts and actions more than “showing” the troll how ignorant they are.
You don’t have to prove how tough you are by talking big on the internet. Everyone knows the loud mouths who use their school yard tough guy mentality in debate are really trying to make up for weaknesses elsewhere in their lives.
And of course, I am not pointing to anyone specific in this thread.
csdeven on July 5, 2007 at 9:32 AM
To conservatives, KP is a microcosm of the conservative struggle to wise up liberals. Her conversion has been slow, but steady. She occasionally has her emotional backslides in to liberal crazy thinking, but she always redeems her self later with a completely rational response like the one referenced in this thread.
The difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberal thinking is a mental disorder and conservative thinking is the natural state God has intended for man.
We’re all born with a librals heart- some of us, however, were also born with a brain and know how the world really works.
csdeven on July 5, 2007 at 9:42 AM
I’ve always believed KP to be the political equivalent of a sociopath.
A pleasant, disarming face adept at mimicking “reasonable” sounding political positions. I’d wager that 90% of the time KP doesn’t believe what she says on The Factor. She’s a radical liberal with enough sense to realize that her core beliefs are not in line with mainstream American values, hence the facade.
If she truly was such a “moderate”, why would she support the Pantsuit or her “rock star” husband?
Mike Honcho on July 5, 2007 at 9:44 AM
For god’s sake. It’s not a facade.
Allahpundit on July 5, 2007 at 9:50 AM
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