Open thread: Michelle guest hosts the Factor Update: Video added
posted at 8:46 pm on July 2, 2007 by Bryan
We’re either 45 minutes late or 15 minutes early posting this. Either way, talk amongst yourselves. I’ll have highlights eventually.
Update: Michelle’s Talking Points Memo echoed themes that we sounded in Vent today, so I’ll link to that and keep more of the rest of the show in this highlight reel. After the TPM, she segued into a discussion of the UK/Glasgow plot. Steve Emerson makes some interesting points about doctors and terrorism, namely that it’s not all that unusual to find doctors among the ranks of terrorists. It’s not unusual to find professionals of other stripes among and running terrorists groups as well. Yassir Arafat was an engineer, as a matter of fact.
The Impact Segment featured a roundtable with Michelle, Laura Schwartz and Kirsten Powers. If I hadn’t kept much of this segment in, I’d have been lynched. Takeaway: In this segment, Kirsten gave credit where it was due on shamnesty. Why didn’t Fred? Hmmmm?
We end with Michelle checkmating an open borders immigration attorney. He goes from “stop all deportations” to coming around, thanks to Michelle’s strategic questions, to the very reasonable position that we ought to at least deport criminal aliens. A fine performance by the boss.
She’ll guest host tomorrow night, Thursday night and Friday night as well.
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Michelle guest-hosting kind of makes a joke of “The Vent”, considering that Fox News is basically exactly that, except with a bigger audience.
Fragility on July 2, 2007 at 8:50 PM
Michelle, next to that smarmy, skanky Laura Schwartz, comes off as professional, prepared, and up to the task, and makes Laura Schwartz look like she is standing next to a lampost in fishnet stockings, waiting for “Mr Right”.
CrimsonFisted on July 2, 2007 at 8:50 PM
“… immigration is dead, and you killed it Michelle…” Kirsten Powers.
KP is right on the money tonight. I think Michelle gets as much of the credit as anyone else in winning the victory in the Shamnesty battle. Thank God we won!
I miss those episodes of “The Vent”, KP always had something interesting to say. Maybe someday…
Zorro on July 2, 2007 at 8:51 PM
And we can all be thankful for that, sayeth Michelle.
YES! We are! And thank you Michelle!
CrimsonFisted on July 2, 2007 at 8:54 PM
Making a point or just complaining?
PBoilermaker on July 2, 2007 at 8:54 PM
Awesome show, but someone needs to fire the make-up people. Both Michelle and KP looked like they had on way too much make-up.
That Brit gossip columnist, wow, he had a ton of spray-on tan. He looked like a Tootsie Roll.
Am I going color blind or something? lol
Mindcrime on July 2, 2007 at 8:57 PM
She is treating that immigratin blow-hard like a child. “Stop, stop stop.” Noice :)
VolMagic on July 2, 2007 at 8:57 PM
Cut his mic!
RightWinged on July 2, 2007 at 8:57 PM
This Herman guy is a joke.
Michelle is going off on him now…this is funny.
PBoilermaker on July 2, 2007 at 8:58 PM
Sweet! Common sense to a bigger audience. I’ll take 2 please.
Spirit of 1776 on July 2, 2007 at 8:58 PM
Richard Herman…Real Man of Genius.
PBoilermaker on July 2, 2007 at 8:59 PM
Just having fun at your expense. It honestly seems ridiculous for Michelle to go through with the trouble of “The Vent” when basically there’s a news channel with people like O’Reilly, Hannity, Kasich, Gigot, Gutfeld, Hume, Gibson, Cavuto and North to do it for her. That was best illustrated when she brought in Powers and several conservative friends for one of the early “Vents” where they sat around talking about abortion. It was basically spot-on for a Fox News “fair” debate.
Powers: abortion is murder
Malkin: abortion is murder
Ham: abortion is murder
Honestly, why bother?
Fragility on July 2, 2007 at 9:00 PM
Hehe..she told homeboy to ‘wrap it up’
lsutiger on July 2, 2007 at 9:01 PM
Richard Herman: The immigration system is broken! Immigration Laws should not be enforced until the entire immigration system is completely re-done and perfected.
Well, Richard, I think that the bank robbery laws are not perfect. So maybe we should just not enforce them until they are fixed.
Dork.
LegendHasIt on July 2, 2007 at 9:01 PM
Flawless!
aqvik on July 2, 2007 at 9:01 PM
To have fun at your expense, of course.
PBoilermaker on July 2, 2007 at 9:01 PM
stop, stop, stop, stop! (in reference to that immigration lawyer wanting “comprehensive immigration reform”).
Michelle is fired up now! That focused looked is awesome, wow. She is double tough!
Zorro on July 2, 2007 at 9:01 PM
she handled contrarians and idiots better than I’ve ever seen her.
aqvik on July 2, 2007 at 9:03 PM
Posted this at MM.com but fiigured I would post it here.
When Michelle said the word “shamnesty” (43:48) according to my Tivo.
Was that KP you heard in the background laugh and say “shamnesty”.
And since KP is giving Michelle the credit for killing the bill…
Thanks Michelle [we owe you]
F15Mech on July 2, 2007 at 9:03 PM
Michelle, Kirsten, and Laura together in one place. Wow!
Why did I feel like the late George Gobel, who accurately joked on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, sitting along with Dean Martin and Bob Hope:
“Did you ever feel like the whole world is a tuxedo, and you’re a pair of brown shoes?”
kevcad on July 2, 2007 at 9:04 PM
SO are the laws that govern speed. Stop them to and while we’re at, what about DUI cases.
warpmine on July 2, 2007 at 9:04 PM
I’m sure Fox would love to host a fair debate, unfortunately, Dem’s are afraid to come on. Oh, sorry, not afraid, just pandering to the nutroots.
Spirit of 1776 on July 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM
That’s the “Mom is pi$$ed” look. It’s even worse when they use those eyes in the back of their heads.
IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM
I’m glad she gave some time to Dr. Laura – That woman gets so maligned by the lefty agenda-pushing media, and quoted so often out of context that anyone who tries to claim the MSM isn’t left-biased must be a damned fool.
Mindcrime on July 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM
Thanks again Michelle
xplodeit on July 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM
Remember, MoveOn.Org. owns the DemonRat party.
warpmine on July 2, 2007 at 9:07 PM
That’s our girl the look of determination on Michelle is a pleasure to watch. Too bad we had to have more Bill inserts.
Legions on July 2, 2007 at 9:08 PM
Don’t confuse fear with disgust. Admittedly there’s nothing to be afraid of since the debate is between Democrats, not between Dems and Fox News. A journalistic fraud like Brit Hume doesn’t deserve to host that kind of a debate.
By the way, more people watched the Democratic debate on CNN than the Republican debate on Fox News, by about 250,000.
Fragility on July 2, 2007 at 9:09 PM
Richard Herman…Real Man of Genius.
PBoilermaker on July 2, 2007 at 8:59 PM
Yes and here’s to you Oh Potentate of Pahooey You tried to solve the 12 million illegal immigrants problem by inviting the rest of their family. ROFLMAO!
sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 9:10 PM
Dag nabit! I missed it.
TheSitRep on July 2, 2007 at 9:11 PM
Could only have been smarmy Laura, that was how I heard it. KP would never have been rude like that.
CrimsonFisted on July 2, 2007 at 9:12 PM
Sure the Dems are disgusted with Fox, because they absolutely cannot stand the fact that Fox News won’t kow-tow their broken world view, their feelings-based reporting (facts? who needs facts when you’re a Dem?), and stunted little groupthink. They also fear Fox News for the same reasons – they will only debate in venues where they can control the spin. Or, at least, think they can control the spin even though Fox News still continues to cover them.
Mindcrime on July 2, 2007 at 9:14 PM
There is a very simple explanation for this:
Republicans watched BOTH debates; Dems only watched their own because they’re too scared to watch intelligent debates with substantive issues.
IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 9:17 PM
Yeah, it’s not fear, but it’s not disgust either. Unless you are going to tell me the Clintons are disgusted by Murdoch’s checks. Just simple early process pandering. Just makes it hard to take people seriously when they won’t field questions from Hume. Russert himself said it well (paraphrasing), it you won’t stand up to [that] how are you going to stand up to the real problems in the world today?
Spirit of 1776 on July 2, 2007 at 9:18 PM
IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 9:17 PM
True, I think watched all except the Dem-PBS one so far.
Spirit of 1776 on July 2, 2007 at 9:19 PM
Me too. Actually, I would have watched the PBS one but I didn’t hear anything about it until the day after–not much promotion I guess.
IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 9:21 PM
IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 9:21 PM
Same here.
Spirit of 1776 on July 2, 2007 at 9:24 PM
OT – I see on LGF that there are now 5 doctor-terrorists.
IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 9:25 PM
Fantastic when you FINALLY got that guy to say that enforcing SOME deportation orders was ‘obvious’ after his thesis was ‘moratorium on deportation’. Check mate there. I wonder if he thinks we should even guard the border – or maybe he thinks we should go to Mexico and load up busses to bring them up here for citizenship.
Glad you brought up the ‘though we can’t deport all of them, can we deport ‘any’ of them?’ argument. But there is one more step to the argument.
‘Why do you think making them ALL citizens is feasible, but deporting them ALL is not? Making them all citizens is more ludicrous than deporting them all.’
I liked the speeding analogy of an earlier poster.
ThackerAgency on July 2, 2007 at 9:34 PM
Well, perhaps Herman has a point besides the one on his head.
After all, illegal aliens are simply breaking laws that Americans and legal aliens won’t break.
As always, great job filling in for OReilly, Michelle.
The False Dervish on July 2, 2007 at 9:35 PM
That’s not an explanation, that’s an excuse for less people being interested in the Republican Party than the Democratic Party. It falls into line very well with the latest poll showing that 55% of Americans want a Dem to win the next election, only 28% favoring the Rep.
Fragility on July 2, 2007 at 9:35 PM
fridays ratings
8PM – P2+ (25-54)
The Michelle Factor – 1,763,000 viewers (298,000)
Nancy Grace – 627,000 viewers (219,000)
Larry King Live – 565,000 viewers (154,000)
Countdown w/ Olbermann – 561,000 viewers (167,000)
Fast Money- 162,000 viewers (62,000)
Link
xplodeit on July 2, 2007 at 9:37 PM
Michelle
You are sooo cute!
MichelleFanClub on July 2, 2007 at 9:37 PM
You’d better recount your change.
Pablo on July 2, 2007 at 9:42 PM
OH, great job Michelle
warpmine on July 2, 2007 at 9:43 PM
Fragility your name is perfect since your arguments are so fragile as well.
Democrats didn’t want FOX hosting a debate because they were scared. Plain and simple. Don’t ask us questions we might have to come up with on the spot. Look at the Chris Wallace interview with Bill Clinton. Toughest questions he ever had.
Ha! As opposed to someone as astute as Dan Rather and his faked documents? Who is a good journalist in your opinion?
That statistic has about as much relevance as Hillary Clinton in a church.
wryteacher on July 2, 2007 at 9:45 PM
Yeah I always want to know what the Dems think so I watch for a second or two and then they bless me with the same old antiquated non discriminate answers to the planet’s problems.
warpmine on July 2, 2007 at 9:45 PM
That statistic has about as much relevance as Hillary Clinton in a church.
wryteacher on July 2, 2007 at 9:45 PM
Ha Ha Ha good one and don’t forget the Repubs just had a surge in voter registration. I beleive some of them were Dems.
sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 9:52 PM
Wrong! What I wrote perfectly explained why the numbers were higher for the Dem social.
Yeah, especially since the Dem congress has gotten SO much done since taking over the Legislative branch. Let’s just wait and see who the Dem candidate is:
Shrillary: 52% of Americans say they will never vote for her (the rest actually wish they could vote for her amoral husband.)
Obamarama: Empty suit, empty head.
Edwards: Tort man, haircut, bumper-sticker, girly-man.
Goracle: Unstable manic-depressive.
A lot can happen in 16 months…just sayin’.
IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 9:52 PM
OMG! You owe me a keyboard! I just snarfed my beer!
BTW – MM – awsome! Keep up the great work!
I hope to see the MM Show on Fox soon…Bill is at retirement age anyhow. Someone GOOD, really good needs to fill the spot.
I think MM is just the one to fill those shoes!
lsutiger on July 2, 2007 at 9:53 PM
For me, it’s too early to watch some of the debates. Too many candidates still in the field and I dislike most of them! As for the democrap debates, there’s no reason to watch them, they are all cowards and traitors.
Zorro on July 2, 2007 at 9:56 PM
A primary debate, it is minor. if you are KO it is roughly 44% of your audience.
F15Mech on July 2, 2007 at 9:56 PM
I only wish Geraldo had been there to talk about the death of the amnesty bill with Michelle.
Maybe next time.
Paul the American on July 2, 2007 at 10:07 PM
I’d sign up for pay-per-view to watch a debate between Michelle and Jerrrraldoooooo about Shamnesty. They should set it up and use the proceeds to buy AP a few iPhones.
speed911 on July 2, 2007 at 10:15 PM
100 pounder handing out black eyes!
Give me and F
Give me and I
Give me an R
Give me an E….
FIRECRACKER – oh, yeah!
On-my-soap-box on July 2, 2007 at 10:16 PM
Most train wrecks draw a big crowd.
fogw on July 2, 2007 at 10:19 PM
Michelle vs. Geraldine-o?
That would be like a match when Mike Tyson was in his prime and 20 seconds after the bell you were wondering why you spent $40 for par-per-view.
On-my-soap-box on July 2, 2007 at 10:21 PM
*Heart Attack*
Laura Schwarz and Kirsten both did not have their head up their asses on the Scooter Libby commutation.
JayHaw Phrenzie on July 2, 2007 at 10:24 PM
Same here. I missed the PBS one because I wasn’t aware of it. I have to admit though; I only watched the Dem debates once whereas I watched the Republican debate on Fox three times. Fox asked some excellent questions and I can see why the Democrats got scared away. There’s no way they could have answered those questions without being seen as the fools that they are.
FloatingRock on July 2, 2007 at 10:24 PM
Stay home Bill.
V15J on July 2, 2007 at 10:31 PM
I’m about to catch the rerun on in half-hour :)
mythicknight on July 2, 2007 at 10:33 PM
I love how Michelle is not saying rerun. I bet that is NOT her option. I say call ‘em like thay are – reruns.
I agree, stay home Bill
On-my-soap-box on July 2, 2007 at 10:35 PM
Saw it,loved it. Another exit question? If you were faced with a pic of MM and an MRI of her brain pan, which would you be more attracted to? I know I’m torn between the two!
Blitz on July 2, 2007 at 10:53 PM
Absolutely. FOX : MSNBC as day : night
IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 10:53 PM
Why do you?
BacaDog on July 2, 2007 at 10:57 PM
Fred did fine. He cited the American people before he cited anyone by name. I’d say that’s more fair and more accurate, much as I appreciate MM.
Spirit of 1776 on July 2, 2007 at 11:03 PM
When did O’Reilly turn into a hot chick?
Metro on July 2, 2007 at 11:10 PM
He got smart too!
Spirit of 1776 on July 2, 2007 at 11:11 PM
Bacadog
Don’t bother with Fraglilty. This is twice today he/she has trid to hijack a thread. As soon as this is widly known, it will be the end.
The thread is how awesome Michelle is. Get on board or go away Frag.
On-my-soap-box on July 2, 2007 at 11:14 PM
“You lock it up!”
“No, you lock it up!”
df4jc on July 2, 2007 at 11:15 PM
Oh great, now I’m going to have to go out and buy myself a TV and a Dish so that I can watch the full The Michelle Factor whenever she’s on. The highlights just don’t cut it for me. It’s just enough to get me hooked but leaves me wanting more.
If Michelle gets a show of her own, which she richly deserves, I predict the ratings will be phenomenal.
FloatingRock on July 2, 2007 at 11:16 PM
Blitz on July 2, 2007 at 10:53 PM
You only touched on two of the three:
Brains
Beauty
Talent
There is no way to choose one. MM is a true triple threat!!!
On-my-soap-box on July 2, 2007 at 11:18 PM
That last segment (with Herman) is quality.
Always nice to see an emotional liberal -attempt- to
dispute facts and reality. Michelle’s controlled application of rage was exemplary.
Surprised to hear KP speak the truth regarding Libby, too.
PBoilermaker on July 2, 2007 at 11:22 PM
The audio is not working on this machine but my ears
hurt anyway from just watching Schwartz screech.
I’ve gotta get this sound fixed to hear Michelle’s
comments. This one looks to be a duesy.
Texyank on July 2, 2007 at 11:23 PM
Is it just me or does Richard Mineards (the Brit from L.A.) sound like baby Stewie?
PBoilermaker on July 2, 2007 at 11:23 PM
Michelle is to TV Hosts as Rush Limbaugh is to Radio Hosts.. on top of their game. I feel sorry for Bill O’ though. He may have to get some counseling after he loses his job.
May I make a suggestion? Bill O’ and Geraldo Riviera should go through counseling together. I still have ringing in my head their yelling match over immigration… jeesh I mean at that point why didn’t Bill just finish him off! It was funny but I just can’t get that scene out of my head, for God’s sake!!!!
Tell you what, I’ll pay for them both to consult with Paris Hilton.. (((((shh, I’ve already made a deal with her))))
Mcguyver on July 2, 2007 at 11:28 PM
Texyank on July 2, 2007 at 11:23 PM
I’m having an audio problem too. I went over to fox news and the audio there is fine the update video on this thread isn’t working.
sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 11:30 PM
When Michelle guest hosts; I think the same thing, and thats when I watch it live.
F15Mech on July 2, 2007 at 11:31 PM
My favorite part was Michelle’s last word: “I won’t let you smear ICE agents as ‘jackboots.’” GO Michelle! Still like Bill, but I love MM’s smooth toughness.
No matter what folks think of Vent, I miss it. I realize MM has bigger fish to fry now, and more power to her.
Last is First on July 2, 2007 at 11:33 PM
The
O’Reilly FactorMalkin MandateNice ring to that.
infidel4life on July 2, 2007 at 11:35 PM
It’s working for most people. You might try installing the latest version of the Flash player, which you can get here.
Bryan on July 2, 2007 at 11:38 PM
You’re right, soap-box. I just wonder why the trolls bother sometimes. I mean, I can’t stand more than 10 minutes at KO’s or DU.
Anyway, great show Michelle. I hope BOR takes an extended vacation for the 4th.
BacaDog on July 3, 2007 at 12:02 AM
I bet Kool-Aid makes a great chaser to that crackpipe entree.
Fragility, you fail to draw any distinctions between journalism and commentary. You also fail to note the broad variety of perspectives expressed on the right on every political hot-button issue.
It continues. Hume is not my favorite journalist, but you can’t find anyone more focused on hard news on any of the big three or cable. Furthermore, as former Chief White House Correspondent for ABC, it does not follow that he would lose all journalistic integrity just to fit your stereotype.
Finally, the Democratic debates on CNN were the lone blip on their ratings radar.
The Race Card on July 3, 2007 at 12:02 AM
Michelle took that immigration doosh out on a prison date!
unamused on July 3, 2007 at 12:06 AM
Four nights this week to look forward to
PowWow on July 3, 2007 at 12:15 AM
Bryan on July 2, 2007 at 11:38 PM
Much better Bryan. Tell me were you just being helpful or is the real motive for your act of kindness more aligned with your new gig as lead vocalist for the ventalators? Only kidding. 10/4 good buddy
sonnyspats1 on July 3, 2007 at 12:21 AM
Translation: I’m too dense to discern any differences between people I disagree with.
infidel4life on July 3, 2007 at 12:24 AM
Awesome!
speed911 on July 3, 2007 at 12:26 AM
I’m having an audio problem too. I went over to fox news and the audio there is fine the update video on this thread isn’t working.
sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 11:30 PM
It
Thanks Bryan
Texyank on July 3, 2007 at 12:38 AM
Michelle rocks. I’ve gotten to the point where I will only watch O’Reilly when she’s on it.
Buzzy on July 3, 2007 at 12:42 AM
Exactly my thoughts. Unfortunately, HotAir has been a victim of it’s own (read MM’s) success. The format change to snarky headlines and fewer MM Vents, which was the best part of this website (sorry AP and Bryan).
I’m clearly not the only one who’s noticed the drop-off. But of course, I’m happy for MM, as she so obviously deserves it.
asc85 on July 3, 2007 at 12:42 AM
And yet you keep watching.
BAN THE GRIEFERS!
ronsfi on July 3, 2007 at 12:43 AM
She’s the only time it’s worth watching O’Reilly.
PRCalDude on July 3, 2007 at 12:56 AM
FOLKS! You failed to read the sign on the way in. The one that stated “Don’t Feed The Troll!”
Fragility simply blows in with snark just to get a rise out of you. No point, no debate, just silly arguments which evolve as you corner him. I’ve lost count of the number of threads where FOX News is the “target” of choice – a sign of limited intellectual capacity. Please observe the sign next time.
thedecider on July 3, 2007 at 12:58 AM
Well, I do kinda like to keep my insulting skills sharp.
;-)
infidel4life on July 3, 2007 at 1:01 AM
Honestly, I usually pay attention if Michelle, MKH or Dennis Miller is on. Bill’s been spending way too much time on tabloid crap. Fox in general is getting too tabloidish.
Bad Candy on July 3, 2007 at 1:09 AM
Yeah, I kinda miss honora for that. At least she could debate more than one subject unlike the newbie. But, as with all trolls, it’s just a matter of time before they post something stupid or Allah finally gets tired of their pointless snark and they’re gone for good. But, hey, we always have the next open registration to look forward to.
thedecider on July 3, 2007 at 1:10 AM
I was genrally neutral on honora’s banning till Bryan said that the name Hitler was put in the profile. Didn’t feel so bad after learning that.
Bad Candy on July 3, 2007 at 1:14 AM
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