New Vent: Who Believes Michael Chertoff?
posted at 12:54 am on July 2, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Michelle takes on the Homeland Security chief who smeared conservatives and now isn’t asking for the $4.4 billion “emergency” spending to secure the border.
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Never trust a mature adult man who shaves his moustache.
(Unless he has fleas.)
Chertoff has worse.
Weasels.
profitsbeard on July 2, 2007 at 12:59 AM
Lying sack of crap.
BobH on July 2, 2007 at 12:59 AM
BobH-
I didn’t want to start right off saying “Lying sack of crap.” but I couldn’t agree more.
LSOC should become Chertoff’s special acroynym.
profitsbeard on July 2, 2007 at 1:05 AM
Let them eat lettuce.
terryannonline on July 2, 2007 at 1:06 AM
LSOC Chertoff, sounds good to me.
xplodeit on July 2, 2007 at 1:09 AM
That guy’s starting to look spooky evil imo. I’m switching my opinion of him from ‘incompetent’ to ‘plain evil’.
Kevin M on July 2, 2007 at 1:11 AM
he shoulda kept the moustache.
trailortrash on July 2, 2007 at 1:12 AM
Thanks for another good Vent, Michelle. I’d like to “vent” about how our hard-earned tax dollars are being wasted on Chertoff and the entire DHS!
Last is First on July 2, 2007 at 1:12 AM
He ought to take some of that $50 lettuce and make himself a toupee.
Chertoff threatened that if the Immigration Bill did not pass he would have to start enforcing the current law.
I’m still waiting.
Here’s an idea, lets take the guys from Gitmo and make them pick lettuce for $50 an hour. Chertoff could run the operation. We could bring in jihadis from all over the world to pick lettuce. Lettuce is highly inflammable. You can only throw it so far. If they eat it they will get e coli and die.
Our mistake was letting Bush invite in 30 million good people to pick lettuce. Because they were good people they broke every law in the book to get here and do not want to assimilate. That sounds like the gitmo crowd. We don’t need Mexican lawbreakers, we already have a crop of jihadis itching to grab a machete. Put it together Chertoff. Use your noggin for something more useful than reflecting rays
entagor on July 2, 2007 at 1:17 AM
I forgot to add, I think Bush counted wrong. I am pretty sure we don’t need 30 million lettuce pickers. I suspect we don’t even grow 30 million heads of lettuce a year in the whole country.
I admire Bush’s compassion, sharing the lettuce to lighten the load, but at one illegal Mexican per head of lettuce, they ought to be delivering them right to the door in a pizza wagon.
What are these lettuce pickers doing the other 364 days of the year when they aren’t needed to pick their assigned head of lettuce?
Something is wrong and I think Chertoff cooked the books.
entagor on July 2, 2007 at 1:24 AM
I must disagree on one point:
I don’t think it is a crisis of confidence in the ability to secure our borders but rather in a willingness to secure our borders. I have no doubt that if the feds so desired that we could button down the borders in a matter of months. Unfortunately the feds have neither the political or philosophical will to do so.
deepdiver on July 2, 2007 at 1:28 AM
Chertoff, Amnesty Mel, and the president would do well by securing the border NOW.
I will not vote for a GOP candidate who does not publicly excoriate the policies and attitudes of these bozos.
Only Tanc has done an acceptable job of this so far.
Valiant on July 2, 2007 at 1:43 AM
I watched it this morning. Wanted to *****-slap the TV.
Later I had a good chuckle. The administration is trying to tell us how mad they are. Not half as much as we are.
Limerick on July 2, 2007 at 1:44 AM
Great Vent!
“Department of Homeland inSecurity” is certainly more meaningful and recognizable to people, but as long as Chertoff is there it will always be the Dingbat Hoedown Society in my mind.
FloatingRock on July 2, 2007 at 1:45 AM
So dose this mean i can call and report the suspicious activity in the parking lot of the local home depot . An they will come and investigate it?
why don’t I believe him?
Mojack420 on July 2, 2007 at 1:48 AM
Republican elites were ready to cast off their core supporters in hopes that they would somehow garner more respect and allegiance from the American Hispanics/Latinos.
In reality what they have done is rejected those minorities (including Latinos) who were beginning to recognize the parity between Republican values and their own. I question the sanity of blowing off perfectly good American voters for perfectly illegal potential voters.
The smug disdain Bush, Chertoff, Snow, et al put forth is really starting to grate my cheese. Here’s a finger right back at ya!
The Race Card on July 2, 2007 at 1:50 AM
God, is Michelle ever cute.
Oh, uh…..good Vent too. I guess. I was sort of preoccupied.
Vyce on July 2, 2007 at 2:09 AM
The Bush junta is almost dead in the water. EL Presidente’ Boosh
is all but a lame duck. He appoints dip$hits to important
positions on high, then they look down their noses and they
spit on us. I’ve never been left feeling so let down by any
administration I have supported, like I have been left
feeling by this administration and their flim-flam.
Birds of a feather, flock together!
You’re either with us, or you’re with the… bigots!
Screw Michael Chertoff.
/great vent MM
SilverStar830 on July 2, 2007 at 2:46 AM
Bush trusts him.
His mom may still trust him.
That’s probably about it.
MB4 on July 2, 2007 at 3:19 AM
It took me all of a week after his appointment to not trust him and to know him as a political hack.
Coincidentally (or NOT) that is about the time I started wondering about the agenda of the President himself.
And wondering if I perhaps could have spent the first three of the six months before that as a full time volunteer for my county GOP campaign center to better advantage.
Well at least the Congressman I helped campaign for hasn’t been too much of a disappointment, so my time wasn’t completely wasted. .
LegendHasIt on July 2, 2007 at 3:56 AM
I love my country, but this government just isn’t serious about tackling the most important matters facing us and it hasn’t been for decades. It’s never been serious about the ‘war on drugs’, it’s not serious about the ‘war on terror’, and it’s trying to avoid getting serious about protecting the borders. The people running Washington have only their studies, hearings, and reports–all to add layers of complications to mask the most reasonable solutions that they fear to implement. Of course, those solutions are probably the cheapest in the end, which is probably why they’ll never be put in place. There’s no power in not spending/wasting taxpayer money, is there?
This all seems classic Machiavellian: keep the people alarmed, to consolidate and maintain power over them. Failing to address important matters continues the national state of excitement, keeping people polarized so their eyes are off Beltway shenanigans like midnight pay raises and such.
We need to either fix the Republican party, or start paying closer attention to the idea of a third party. Otherwise, I can’t see the borders truly secured or our Islamofascist enemy ever being defeated.
Liam on July 2, 2007 at 4:16 AM
What is this guy EVER done. Oh yea…he has me (a blue-eye nordic type) here in Minnesota taking my shoes off when I want to fly because Middle Eastern Terrorists want to kill me! Ok…got it! Good one, Michelle! But, hey…he’s going to build 150 miles of fence by September…r-i-g-h-t…
sabbott on July 2, 2007 at 5:37 AM
And save a little bit for a moustache.
I don’t put lettuce on my sub. In fact, I don’t even eat lettuce – period. If more American’s did as I, there would be no economic argument for illegals.
Just say NO to Lettuce!
jihadwatcher on July 2, 2007 at 6:18 AM
Great Vent Michelle.
The timing of the failed attacks in London and Scotland coming so quickly after the Shamnesty “debate” really helped frame the issue and created a sense of urgency to secure the borders and “catalog” all visitors our great nation.
I predict the winning presidential candidate, whoever that might be, will come out this week swinging at the failed concept of Shamnesty and propose solutions that have a chance of working.
Zorro on July 2, 2007 at 6:40 AM
I wonder WHO is behind this Vent…
Ropera on July 2, 2007 at 6:43 AM
Let’s see.
President Bush starts DHS with a former Governor and Attorney General in charge.
Said professional does such an effective job that he mortally offends Ted Kennedy(who has never met a terrorist he did not instantly develop a crush on, from Ho Chi Minh to Yasir Arafat Gerry Adams to Saddam Hussein to, now Bashar Assad, Hugo Chavez, and Company).
Bush accordingly fires said professional and replaces him with Michael Chertoff.
Chertoff talks a good fight at first, but turns out to be a gutless trimmer who thinks that the entire universe revolves around Ted Kennedy. (Chertoff needs to study his Newton; even Teddy isn’t that massive.)
And when people point out the fundamental flaws in his arguments and actions (or rather, total lack of actions), his response is to call anyone who disses him a bigot.
The problem isn’t that the President should fire Chertoff. The problem is that there is no rational reason that he should have been appointed in the first place.
I’m trying very hard to still find something worth defending about this Administration, specifically in its second term. But it’s uphill work at this point.
cheers
eon
eon on July 2, 2007 at 7:37 AM
Silverstar830…I agree…’flock ‘em’.
DoctorDentons on July 2, 2007 at 7:50 AM
Between Chertoff (the ##rkoff), and Joey (the clown) Liberman it was almost too much to take. On Meet the Press (I believe) we had Joey saying in the wake of the terrorist attacks we need to secure this country now..like England.. with thousands of cctv camera’s in every major cities. Never ever once mentioned what concern’s us the most the southern border. Too bad he’s not up for re-election, everytime he speaks is another 30 second ad for Bryan..
Legions on July 2, 2007 at 7:57 AM
Why blame Chertoff he is just a pet doing tricks.
Kind of off topic but did VP Cheney make any comments during the whole shamnesty thing? He never struck me as a lap dog.
frreal on July 2, 2007 at 7:59 AM
did VP Cheney make any comments during the whole shamnesty thing
*** *** *** ***
I’ve wondered the same thing. Where is Dick? See Dick run …
King George lost ALL credibility with me when he sent OUR military to fight in Iraq (no problem with that) and then cared NOTHING about our open borders. Did he think terrorists would NOT access our Mexican border?
When (not if) we are attacked and we find the persons who did us harm came from Mex… well, I won’t be shocked. And the Kingdom will say that it happened because the amnesty bill didn’t pass.
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE FOR 6 YEARS ABOUT OUR BORDER?
stenwin77 on July 2, 2007 at 8:19 AM
MM is right. Chertoff has been on Fox commenting on the British attacks and I just tune this loser out. This guy has nothing to say that I wish to hear. And I mean nothing.
Signed —- Ignorant Biggot
lynnv on July 2, 2007 at 8:19 AM
Does anyone feel safer with Chertoff as the lettucehead of Home Land Security?
Wade on July 2, 2007 at 8:24 AM
Chertoff had to have had this “secret” info while he was campaigning for Kennedy’s Open Borders and denigrating Americans who disagreed.
This makes him an “Major League” A Hole as well as well as an irresponsible POS. And I’d love the opportunity to tell him to his face.
there it is on July 2, 2007 at 8:24 AM
I can grow my own lettuce on the windowsill.
Build the fence. Catch ‘em, send ‘em home. Charge Mexico for every Mexican illegal we have to feed, clothe, etc. before we ship ‘em back, on a slow, slow boat, preferably that they have to row.
Qzsusy on July 2, 2007 at 8:26 AM
Good grief. The bill is dead. Do we have to purge like the Democrats? Fact is, nothing anyone does will please some of you. This is just one issue our nation is facing.
Michelle is starting to sound like a harpy. You can flame me all you want, but come on, this isn’t a soviet era, goose stepping party.
Stormy70 on July 2, 2007 at 8:31 AM
Just more proof that the DHS is useless government bloat.
Jezla on July 2, 2007 at 8:41 AM
He claimed on FNC-Sunday that he intends to have 370 miles of fence and most of the virtual fence built by end of 2008. At least if they do this, it’s progress. It’s not 850 miles, what happened to that, but take anything you can get.
Bush would be wise to offer the $4 Billion to the border security effort, if I were him I would do it in a very public speech acknowledging the problem of trust. Stranger things have happened.
tarpon on July 2, 2007 at 8:47 AM
Heh.
Very timely vent, MM. I have been waiting for this one since Jerkoff’s idiotic comments in the run-up to the CIR/Shamnesty III bill. He exhibited a reckless disregard for the truth and a PR stupidity that I had not seen before.
He goes down as one of the worst appointments by Bush, just stunningly bad.
As for the whole concept of DHS, it seems to be a nanny-state bureaucratic nightmare of profligate spending, now that I see with hindsight that the real aim is just to support Bush politically, and never mind about actually securing the border.
Jaibones on July 2, 2007 at 8:47 AM
I’m sick enough of this attitude coming from the left. If you’re not with them on affirmative action, you’re a racist. If you’re not with them on gay marriage, you’re a homophobe, etc. It’s even worse to see this arrogant attitude coming from someone supposedly on our side of the aisle.
Mr. Chertoff needs to get a dose of reality, and some respect for people who disagree with him. This accusation that the “secure the border, already!” crowd want to have illegal aliens executed is either a poor attempt at exaggeration, or shows how badly he misunderstands the views of that crowd.
Bigfoot on July 2, 2007 at 8:48 AM
Curiously AWOL. Hopefully planning a coup…
Jaibones on July 2, 2007 at 8:48 AM
Chertoff and his ilk CLAIM that a wall can’t help and that you can’t secure the border.
Why do they say they can’t?
REVENGE for losing the Senate bill for it is NOT that they can’t secure the border…SIMPLY PUT THEY WON”T!
Their attitude is “Screw You”!
Chertoff is as incompetent to Homeland Security as that mousey little woman heading the Department of State is incompetent.
FLLaw33870 on July 2, 2007 at 9:01 AM
Not me.
He is more worried about a basket of fruit and vegetables sent by Tancredo than he is about securing the border
SKELETOR is useless
400lb Gorilla on July 2, 2007 at 9:03 AM
And why are they all jumping on board for a ..fairness doctrine..Their jealous of the- Mexican way- to handle journalist’s and reporters.. (Mexico has now become the #1 country in the whole big bad world for killing them.) Hope everyone seen that little issue yesterday also..
Legions on July 2, 2007 at 9:11 AM
As Forrest Gump might have said: “I’m not a smart man, but I know what a lie is.”
A lie is almost anything that comes from the mouth or pen of Ted Kennedy. The man is wrong on almost every issue. It amazes me that Bush and his fraternity brothers worship “Kennedy the lesser” so much. Generally, a pol sides with his allies when he wants to get something done.
I think Bush is the first President in history that embraces his enemies and thumbs his nose at his friends when he is confronted with a problem. Then he is astonished that he loses the issue! He even resurrected the doomed bill! A politician’s base is always the first group that needs to be secured. Oh, and the middle finger is not a term of endearment.
He is now doing the same thing with Iraq.
Maybe time to just: “Run Forrest, run!” as in: just go away Mr. Bush.
Oh, note to Stormy 70: “Fact it” you are a mole planted here from
move-on. Take a hike, you hoser!
ove-on
polokfla on July 2, 2007 at 9:13 AM
The bill was only a symptom of the problem tho Stormy. The bill was a half @rsed attempt to glaze over something that is very VERY broken. Yeah, we beat the bill down so now, while everyone still has it fresh in their minds, we SHOULD be going after the would be immigration champions to do the right thing…BUILD THE DAMN FENCE.
You are quite correct that border security is just one issue we are facing. It is a very important issue however and one that simply must be addressed in a serious way…something our politicos aren’t willing to do for whatever reason.
Pilgrim on July 2, 2007 at 9:16 AM
Perhaps they should rename the organization Mr. Chertoff has so effectively driven into the ground as the Department Of Hom(ER)land Security. After all, isn’t the group’s name pronounced DOHS! anyway?
pilamaye on July 2, 2007 at 9:19 AM
i would gladly pay more for produce that is grown & harvested by legal, documented workers; whether those workers are from North America or South America matters not.
stevezilla on July 2, 2007 at 9:22 AM
If you think I am a plant, then you haven’t read any blogs for the last five years. Nice try avoiding the point, and also making my point.
I thought the killing of this bad bill was a grassroots perfection. Now is the time to do the same for a fence, but why do we have to tear down our side to do it. Turn your anger into the same amount of calls for enforcing the laws, instead of treating people who disagree with you like pariahs. We are above acting like Dems. Turn the anger into lobbying, instead of flaming anyone who does not agree with you. The name-calling just sounds juvenile and pisses people off. Turn it into something constructive, or face an all Dem power sweep in 2009. Then you will have nothing.
Stormy70 on July 2, 2007 at 9:31 AM
Good vent MM.
I saw this A##-clown on F&F this morning. Of course he got a softball interview with no questions about the border. (God, I miss E.D.)
But after looking at his persimmon eating puss for a bit, I am starting to understand Rudy’s aversion to ferrets.
conservnut on July 2, 2007 at 9:34 AM
M. Chertoff = a complete lack of integrity. Cronyism is dealing our country an irreparable blow.
Griz on July 2, 2007 at 9:41 AM
The American people blocked an immigration bill after despicable aspects of which radio and blogs helped disseminate.
Lets give credit where credit is due, “We the People” crashed the Senate phone system, maxed out Email accounts, wrote letters and invaded Senate offices.
The citizenry spoke, we were ignored by some and the citizenry spoke louder.
We just can’t expect the conniving institutionalist’s to go quietly or accept with open arms their new citizen masters without more snake in the grass undulations.
A watershed moment has occurred in representative government and I hope it’s a new beginning.
I think this victory creates a new opportunity for you and me, lets reach out and take it.
Carpe Diem, to the max.
Speakup on July 2, 2007 at 9:49 AM
You must be new here.
baldilocks on July 2, 2007 at 9:50 AM
I do, I believe he is a liar.
right2bright on July 2, 2007 at 9:58 AM
The DHS was hastily thrown together in an attempt to centralize power to wage civil war against enemies of the state. It took the best of the various agencies ICE, Coast Guard, etc, and provided leadership that does not have a clue about how the functions that are available to them to intervene in a positive manner because they are more afraid of the PC police than the actual enemy.
All we have now is one big sandbox where once effective agencies are fighting each other for a smaller share of $$$ and have no trust in the new leadership that has no experience in their areas of expertise, because they see the leadership leading them over the edge and they are not willing to follow.
The basic problem with our immigration battle is that we have not enforced existing laws or provided existing agencies that knew what to do the proper funding to do their job.
Remember, we must know only invite those into our country that we want, really know who they are and their intentions, and when they arrive we are able to follow their whereabouts and assure they leave when they should leave and insure they leave with which they entered with. If they actually desire full citizenship status they must undergo an extensive background check to assure their primary allegiance.
PC is our greatest enemy that the enemy is using to undermine our civilization from within.
My foreign born wife and I underwent a year long background investigation before we were even allowed to get married and for her to enter the country with me-that’s true love and respect of our countries laws.
MSGTAS on July 2, 2007 at 10:03 AM
Generally when someone makes a mistake, and we all make them, you apologize. All of us can be a little sensitive because of the open enrollment and the obvious chance for the libs (the ones that want to disrupt) to come in our house. But Stormy70 is no troll, he is consistent on his disgust with the fence, and immigration as an issue.
A little quote from him regarding immigration. I don’t agree with him (on this), but I stand by him as a fellow conservative.
right2bright on July 2, 2007 at 10:09 AM
It’s because of blogs like HA that Shamnesty failed. Thank you. You did America a great service. I want a border bill passed that secures our borders and the shamnesty bill didn’t come anywhere close enough to doing that. Amnesty I believe is inevitable in the long run for all the illegals here already as there are too many here to kick out but that doesn’t mean we can’t keep any more from coming in. Keeping millions morefrom coming in is of course very important because the shamnesty bill did little or nothing to take care of all the other hot issues regarding illegals abusing the system through various means like welfare, education, medical, criminal, employment, taxes, etc.
Yakko77 on July 2, 2007 at 10:16 AM
When Bush surrounds himself with people who blatantly incompetent, it only magnifies the impression that the democrats have stressed about him. He is about to pass Jimmy Carter as the most pathetic president of the last century. Who woulda thunk it?
volsense on July 2, 2007 at 10:18 AM
Correction, her.
right2bright on July 2, 2007 at 10:18 AM
Hmmm… who do we have running our Federal Law services?
Gonzales and Chertof???
Both are pretty dam incompetent… interesting.
Romeo13 on July 2, 2007 at 10:38 AM
I hope my comment isn’t off-topic, but can someone explain the Rove strategy to me? I understand the idea that you don’t want to take a “principled stand” against shamnesty out of a fear of permanently alienating hispanic voters, in much the same way as black voters were alienated by the lack of GOP support for the ‘64 civil rights act.
But here’s my question — assuming you get shamnesty in, won’t all the same people then start making huge demands on your social welfare systems? (e.g. free health care, education, unemployment) And then when the GOP refuses to cave on that issue, won’t that just drive those voters into the Democrats’ camp anyway? It seems to me that when you have a large group of low-income people moving in, that those people are going to be susceptible to the kind of class envy that drives a large part of the Democrats’ base.
I just don’t understand why Rove and the rest of the GOP leadership are so adamant in their support of shamnesty. I honestly believe it’s something deeper than just an effort to pay off “big business.”
Outlander on July 2, 2007 at 10:38 AM
…Stormy70…at 8:31 AM.. I do agree with you we do have other issues to deal with. However attacking Michelle is not one of them. If it wasn’t for the Michelle’s, the Laura Ingraham’s, the Lou Dobbs,the Dr. Micheal Savage’s and the rest, we would today be discussing a new different issue, like what happens to the GOP now. Seeing how the last two elections were razor close. Without a viable GOP in the future we cannot overcome their force. So let the so- called “goose stepping party” as you like to call it- I call it our battle-call… KEEP ON GOOSEN..
Legions on July 2, 2007 at 10:56 AM
The public is a whole lot smarter on this issue than the media or Washington. People want guest workers and immigrants, but they want them on our terms. What needs to happen now is action on fixing the problem, not just throwing our hands up and rewarding law breakers because the government lacks the will to do it’s job. The public knew that granting legal status to illegals will just encourage more illegal immigration. One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see that.
We have several key problems to solve in order to turn the situation in the right direction.
1. Enforce the law as it pertains to employer sanctions, and shut down the gravy train magnet that draws them here. No work and no freebees will motivate many to return to their home country without millions of busses needed.
2. Develop a better way the verify who is eligible to work here legally and who is not. We already have a number of guest worker programs here, but none of them are right for migrant laborers. comprehensive employer verification must happen.
3. The visa overstay problem can be tied into the employer verification system with ID cards and new requirements for visitors to check in. Most other countries have this kind of system. If you are not legally here, life can be made more difficult and should be.
4. The border must be protected.
These are areas of bleeding that must be stopped before any talk of legal status for illegals. The illegal immigrants are a political football that were encouraged to come here by our government’s failure to do it’s job and enforce our current laws. The government must step up and turn things around before I could ever go along with any form of amnesty.
saiga on July 2, 2007 at 11:03 AM
the power of revisionist history…
Actualy, most Republicans supported the Equal Rights Act…
From Wiki…
Romeo13 on July 2, 2007 at 11:14 AM
I still don’t see the point at directing this Vent or anger at Chertoff. It may be his lips moving, but these are clearly Bush’s words and policies. The administration created this department, and he serves at the pleasure. There should be Bush’s picture at the top of this page, not this insignificant piece of crap.
greggish on July 2, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Agreed, this is Bush policy. But don’t let us forget, this man has a job to do. And it is not to promote political agendas. It is to keep us safe and our borders secure. He just shows us that it is more important to him to be a Bush mouthpiece than to secure our borders.
conservnut on July 2, 2007 at 11:20 AM
Look, immigration is not my top issue, but I respect grassroots movements against the idiots in the Senate. I think the fence is impractical, along the Rio Grande, but if the grassroots wants it, then they should fight for it. Believe me, I am in the minority, and I know it here. But the name calling from both sides on the right is not helpful. We should only be name calling the looney left, as they will always deserve it.
I respect Michelle, though. I should not have said Michelle sounded like a harpy, although I did not call her a harpy. A distinction my husband assures me of when he says I sound like a harpy. But, it still pisses me off, so I should practice what I preach, but that is no fun on the internet. LOL.
We need to stop doing the job for Democrats by eating our own in these battles, instead of focusing on the growing threat of idiotic Dems taking over, and losing the overall war.
The Mexican jokes and changing every one’s name to the Hispanic equivalent is a preschool tactic that make the right look like overwrought morons.
The phone calls should not stop until you get the enforcement bill you want, but you will catch more flies with honey. I am not for amnesty or illegals jumping ahead of legal immigrants. Illegal immigration has been a part of America’s landscape for our entire history, so I consider it a trumped up issue, at this time. Why now? Why not 10 years ago? 9/11 caused it to come to the forefront, but why did it take until the past year for it to come to a head? I don’t know, but I respect that people are upset about it. I am more sanguine, but I live in Texas, where our illegals work harder than the latte swilling libs living off their parents. People want in the greatest country in the world, and they always will.
Stormy70 on July 2, 2007 at 11:23 AM
Probably the Harpy comment misled the newbie. Now my antennae went up over the ‘goose stepping’ phrase which is normally found in the lexicon of Rangel, Leahy et al as a code word for GOP. The newbie, being a newbie, got confused when she saw the dialect of Moveon here. Especially when the hypno-mantra sounded (vote GOP or face a DEM sweep, vote GOP or face a DEM sweep …)
The hypno-chant now appears like magic on conservative chats whenever the natives get restless
entagor on July 2, 2007 at 11:26 AM
I respect your desire to raise the level of debate and not resort to the type of name calling and preschool jokes that are found on a lot of the left’s sites. (although I reserve the right to get a bit snarky at times)
I am surprised by your lack of outrage about the problem in question though, especially since you are in the Great State of Texas with me. I have worked alongside these folks for years and know how they feel about the US. Make no mistake, the vast majority of them have no desire to become Americans and have been indoctrinated into the idea that coming here and taking over by sheer numbers and political infulence is their birthright. I have heard it from them time and time again. This is a critical issue that requires all of our attention. In my opinion, almost as much as the war on terror.
conservnut on July 2, 2007 at 11:35 AM
The media are morons if they think the country will punish the right over immigration reform.
The threat to Republicans are within the party. No need to destroy the party over immigration reform, when we have more issues to deal with overall as a party. The Supreme Court, for the first time in my lifetime, has moved to the right. Terrorists are being killed by our military and my taxes are lower. I think there are better ways to fight it out amongst ourselves.
Stormy70 on July 2, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Excellent Vent,
I wouldn’t believe this guy if he told me my own name!
Dear Fred!
When you win the Whitehouse in ‘08 please appoint someone with a room-temperature IQ who will actually enforce our laws to this position. Someone like…. Michelle :)
CrazyFool on July 2, 2007 at 11:38 AM
I work with and know some illegals, but they love America and are grateful to be here. They go to church and behave like model citizens. Like any group of people, there will be every kind. You sound like you run into the commie kind, while I run into the family kind.
My entire family is outraged, but me and my border living Aunt are not. Go figure. I don’t like to be herded by anyone, so that could be one reason.
Stormy70 on July 2, 2007 at 11:39 AM
Well, I hope when this is all wrapped up (if ever) we can keep the kind you run into. Cause those are the ones we want. And get rid of some of the ones I have run into.
conservnut on July 2, 2007 at 11:43 AM
Yeah, they are called RINOS.
Destroy the party? LOL! More like a rogue element within the Party that’s beholden to $$$$ interests rather than the security and well-being of our Republic.
Immigration IS an ISSUE — and a BIG ONE. Obviously, you’re disinterested in and/or oblivious to the problems that are being caused by our current Immigration policy.
eanax on July 2, 2007 at 11:53 AM
But – but- Michael says we are safe.
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News2Use on July 2, 2007 at 11:58 AM
I strongly believe the 2 best for the job of fighting America’s problems in the future are 2 men over looked for some reason, Tancredo and Hunter both would be honest, dedicated to fighting America’s problems. Look past the press clippings on the major 3(Giuliani Romney, and Fred?) and ask yourself why you don’t hear about Hunter and Tancredo? They are both solid Americans and you know we need that now.
oldernslower on July 2, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Chertoff rhymes with… and as you say Michelle the credibility factor is a minus ZERO ad infinitive. Talk about “recall.” The Shamnesty situation did a great job at exposing the hypocrisy of this elitist administration whom the public had intrusted the saftey of this country.
Has anyone seen the latest from the drug cartels sending their ilk over the border?
Ten MILLION Dollars A Day in drugs into the the U.S! That is just mind-boggling. And the advocates for amnesty (that would have made any of these demons “legal”) say a
fence isn’t necessary??????!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!!
Chertoff rhymes with… what do you have to say about this? And they certainly ain’t interested in “lettuce” that is unless you take it as the hyperbole for cash. A**wipe.
auspatriotman on July 2, 2007 at 12:04 PM
And yes… da Bush admin is so worried about Food prices that they are willing to give a pass to illegality, while turning Corn into fuel? and NOT let us Drill for oil???
Color me confused…
Romeo13 on July 2, 2007 at 12:13 PM
..Stormy70..You are living in a dream world.I and my family were driven out of our last home. A home I had worked to restore for 15 years. The Illegal who bought the home next to ours, played their music loud day and night, kids running around our property, babies walking around naked. Garbage throw on our lot. Car’s pulling up all night long. Now out here in the good old suburbs I find myself seeing it coming again. Too much mex. dam drug cartel money to go around. There are thousands of people out there who hire them for cheap labor, they feel the amer. people can pay the high price as long as they make a profit they give a dam about this country. Know anyone like that..
Legions on July 2, 2007 at 12:14 PM
Okay, I couldn’t resist:
Lettuce secure the border.
jihadwatcher on July 2, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Haha
Spirit of 1776 on July 2, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Strong contender for “Quote of the Day”!!!
Romeo13 on July 2, 2007 at 12:38 PM
It is just a pipedream and I know they hate each other, but Mr. Bush in his heart knows who the next, best candidate for Chertoff’s job is ……… http://tancredo.house.gov/gallery/TomwithGW2004.jpg
Joey1974 on July 2, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Romeo13 on July 2, 2007 at 11:14 AM
Shame on me. You’re right about GOP support for the ‘64 act.
Outlander on July 2, 2007 at 12:48 PM
Great Vent Michelle.
I think – maybe – I speak for all of us here when I say your time is better spent making Vents than cueing up reruns for Bill O’
/trolling complete
On-my-soap-box on July 2, 2007 at 12:59 PM
I don’t know how much more simple it can be said.
Enforce ALL of the current laws. They include fences, employees, no anchor babies (the true 14th amendment), deportation, no sanctuary cities/states/entities.
IT IS THAT SIMPLE
ChertoffJAGOFF!Enforce ALL of the current laws.
shooter on July 2, 2007 at 1:13 PM
sadly, I think this IS what it implies, think about it.
shooter on July 2, 2007 at 1:16 PM
Excellent vent;
Still it is time to move on and work on Border enforcement.
A fence is essential in my opinion. Border security, immigration is not new, it has been here. Now presents an opportunity to focus and prioritize in addressing the issue.
I can’t say I saw Michelle as being a harpy in the vent. I thought she was quite effective in making her points. Chertoff appears not to have much credibility.
However some of the responses here seem a little over the top. Name calling, etc accomplishes nothing other than making one appear childish and without argument as the moonbats of the left tend to rely on as their mainstay of logic.
MarkB on July 2, 2007 at 1:20 PM
Sometimes I think people who do not believe this to be a large issue, do not take the time to connect some of the dots.
Declining education, expecially in the inner cities can be traced (in many areas like So.Cal)to an increase on illegal immigrants. The money spent to educate them, special programs, and the increase in fed. funds to the school district thus making the union rich and a ever greater lobbying force.
The impact on health care, go into any emergency room after 9 pm and find an english speaking patient. We pick up that tab, and we pay for the increase in health care costs, it is so great now, let’s make health care mandatory.
40% of men in Calif. prisons are illegal immigrants. The amount of money being taken out of country and spent elsewhere, the impact on police, fire, schools all of our infra-structure is heavily burdened by illegal immigrants. The problem of illegal immigration is much greater than an average citizen could ever imagine. A couple of decades living in the city with the largest population of hispanics outside of Mexico has taught me many things…one being the burden is too great for taxpayers to carry, and the cost to our children, health care, and society is to great to continue.
It is nice that many of us have made great friends from immigrants, that is not what we are talking about. Not whether they are good or bad, but whether our policy is good or bad. And right now it is bad and getting worse.
right2bright on July 2, 2007 at 1:25 PM
I wonder if King George has anything to do with the drug trafficking?
I’m just wondering because his behavior is beyond reason.
stenwin77 on July 2, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Like I told John MacAmnesty: no one picks lettuce in the summer…I believe that’s a spring crop. However, according to the ruling elite I am an American who won’t pick lettuce, (unless I had room to grow it in my garden), I can only guess what the slave class does and therefore don’t know squat.
I’m sorry if someone else brought it up but Chertoff looks scarier without his mustache. Perhaps the is the desired result. Who was the actor that played Nosferatu in those silent films? He probably was his grandad, but since vampires don’t have any blood of their own, it can’t be proven.
Christine on July 2, 2007 at 1:48 PM
If you idiots would look past being what they are calling you…the tide of turning left has changed…after the immigration Fiasco?…people are turning back to being republicans.
Ohhhhh…he called me a name…I’m so think skinned ohhhh.
get a grip.
tomas on July 2, 2007 at 1:49 PM
..right2bright at 1:25.. I concur..and it’s good to be “LOUD AND PROUD”… MarkB at 1:20..Your calling us over the top, name callers, childish etc..where were you during all those May Day marches, have you even seen the Demo Sen. shouting out calling people name’s, your better off watching Geraldo- “I’m from the USA and don’t take my daddy away” crowd. Look to sit back in a easy chair and speak soft while they march on MayDay ever year is not going to get us anywhere. And why on MayDay??
Legions on July 2, 2007 at 1:54 PM
I believe that Tanc is interviewing for that job in the guise of a presidential bid.
csdeven on July 2, 2007 at 1:56 PM
THANK YOU! We need to drive a stake through the fallacy that the Republicans opposed the Civil Rights Act every time it rears its ugly head. The Democrats–generally via the Socialist indoctrination factories that we call a public school system–have been actively propagandizing people about that issue for 40 years. Just another example of repeating a Big Lie often enough until people believe it.
ReubenJCogburn on July 2, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Problem is our own keep stabbing us in the back while we circle their wagons. Those worth defending we defend but it is getting rather tiresome being presented with the “vote for me because the other guy is so much worse” alternative. We consider ourselves the “value” party and yet time and again we lower our standards to get one of “our” guys in. We still move to the left we just do it a little slower.
frreal on July 2, 2007 at 2:36 PM
Credibility gap?.
Credibility - GONE.
fixed-
shooter on July 2, 2007 at 2:50 PM
man… anyone who says Michelle doesn’t critize her own, obviously has never seen this. ouch! ;)
Chuck in Detroit on July 2, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Makes me wonder what else Chertoff has been shaving.
To convince us that everything is under control invites a dangerous situation.
Dept of Homeland Security, or as I sometimes call it, Dept of Homeland Appeasement. Either way, they are going to get a lot of us killed unless they get their act together.
The False Dervish on July 2, 2007 at 3:14 PM
Everything has its time, madam, and 10 years ago we didn’t have 15 million illegal aliens and didn’t know that people can hijack planes and fly them into buildings. Witness the fact that the Moonbat left saw it happen, and still doesn’t believe it happened (I know; this is a very special kind of stupid).
Border security is an issue with domestic tension that has been growing steadily for years, capped off by a year long series of ill-advised protests by illegal invaders waving Mexican flags and posters claiming that we’re actually sitting in Mexico right now.
That’s “why now”.
Jaibones on July 2, 2007 at 3:15 PM
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