Irony Alert: Elizabeth Edwards on strong opinions
posted at 12:50 pm on July 2, 2007 by Bryan
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The New York Times profiles the Silky Pony’s hard-edged liberal half. Buried deep within the love letter is this nugget on her personality:
Mrs. Edwards said that any impression that she was the 800-pound gorilla of a spouse — second this year perhaps only to another candidate’s spouse who once lived in the White House — resulted from the fact that she was a person given to strong opinions, expressed strongly.
“I sit across the table from all these young people, and I see a colleague who wants something done,” she said. “When they express an opinion with vigor I appreciate that. When I express an opinion with vigor — and I do — I sometimes forget that they are looking at me as a spouse, as someone in an elevated position. My words seem more like a mother scolding you. I admit that I am not always conscious of that, and I should be.”
“But I like it when somebody expresses their view with clarity and force,” she said. “It was Nietzsche or Kierkegaard who said you have to believe in something so strongly that you don’t acknowledge another’s point of view: That’s what real belief is.”
“…I like it when somebody expresses their view with clarity and force…”
Really?
That’s not what I hear.
(h/t The Minuteman)
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Whatever.
Can we put a dollar amount on each post here about her?
That’s how it ends up.
Silky and his wife need to be treated as attention-seeking children: ignored.
unamused on July 2, 2007 at 12:56 PM
At least someone in that family has some huevos. Someone has to take control of his sinking ship.
right2bright on July 2, 2007 at 12:58 PM
“….you don’t acknowledge another’s point of view: That’s what real belief is.”
How marvelously tolerant the liberal left is. So tolerant they don’t want to hear alternate points of view. No wonder they love Chavez and Castro so much.
katieanne on July 2, 2007 at 1:00 PM
They are just white trash with money.
Stormy70 on July 2, 2007 at 1:00 PM
Is it just me, or are spouses suddenly way too important?
I didn’t think we were electing husband-wife teams.
reaganaut on July 2, 2007 at 1:03 PM
We Really. Need. Another harpy as First Lady.
I sure wish Pinky was still here with his vomit buckets.
RushBaby on July 2, 2007 at 1:03 PM
I strongly, stridently, seriously and with great clarity and force dislike Mrs Edwards. I would be much more graphic but I’ll hold my tongue in deference to respect for this site.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/brown200410190849.asp
Lynne Cheney should have punched her in the mouth for that one.
Dash on July 2, 2007 at 1:04 PM
She is full of it. Leave it to a Liberal to Quote Nietzsche.
Stark raving mad that she lost the battle to being with. Perhaps if she had wished to debate AC, well never mind, you can’t expect liberals to do anything other than protest wwords.
warpmine on July 2, 2007 at 1:04 PM
Stormy, I have known ‘White Trash” that show much more class then these two.
bbz123 on July 2, 2007 at 1:07 PM
Follow-up: The irony is, the wannabe leader of the free world, has his wife do the fighting for him.
Headlines: Negotiations are getting so tough, that Pres. Edwards is staying home and sending his wife to talk to them. “They are really getting mean” says Edwards, “and my wife will straighten them out, while raising our kids and fighting cancer”.
right2bright on July 2, 2007 at 1:07 PM
Silky made more money suing people then he does fundraising. Hey Ann how about picking a fight with Ron Paul so he can at least afford bus fare to his next campaign stop.
LakeRuins on July 2, 2007 at 1:08 PM
Apparently her goal is to burn through all that cancer sympathy in record time. Are there any liberals that aren’t utter hypocrites about freedom of speech?
She and John certainly deserve each other, but that isn’t a compliment.
ReubenJCogburn on July 2, 2007 at 1:10 PM
White trash means trash. I am not using the definition liberals use to mean Republicans.
Stormy70 on July 2, 2007 at 1:16 PM
So true. This is why liberals are enthralled by the likes of Mao and Ho. They allowed no dissenting points of view. They KNEW how to run a country. Hoo boy!
Labamigo on July 2, 2007 at 1:17 PM
It’s times like these that I sometimes wish I wasn’t so deucedly handsome and a wickedly good blogger, but a good cartoonist. This power-hungry couple should be good fodder for an acid pen and ink man….
Sir Silky facing a dragon (AC) while cowering behind his momma’s skirts.
ScottG on July 2, 2007 at 1:21 PM
Rush is tearing into her on the air right now.
They are shameless panderers of the insane left, but that is redundant…..
bbz123 on July 2, 2007 at 1:22 PM
Oh, while it was a stupid thing to say, I sort of agree with her in that not all opinions are equal and listening to them is a waste of time. How many of you solicit and listen to moonbat opinions (except for entertainment value)?
Blake on July 2, 2007 at 1:22 PM
It’s ’cause they meant well….
ScottG on July 2, 2007 at 1:23 PM
She was really insulted by the crack about 800-lb gorilla. Do these pants make me look fat?
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on July 2, 2007 at 1:23 PM
Cancer? What cancer?
rondo on July 2, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Ron Paul, you know, whatever…
benrand on July 2, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Her husband is the real cancer. He is a cancer on society taking every opportunity to make money by destroying the medical profession. After hearing her call her neighbor trashy I wouldn’t expend the energy to spit at her.
bopbottle on July 2, 2007 at 1:31 PM
Toby Keith called his last album, “White Trash with Money” after a parent of another kid at his daughters school called the Keith family that term.
I take a certain half-hearted exception to Mr. and Mrs. Silky being tossed into the same bin as Toby Keith. ;)
Pilgrim on July 2, 2007 at 1:32 PM
She would have quoted Adolf Hitler but then people might have objected. Quote whomever you please, we all know who and what you are…..Indiscriminate liberal.
warpmine on July 2, 2007 at 1:33 PM
It’s real easy to believe in something strongly … when you don’t acknowledge other points of view. It’s the definition of liberalism.
Not exactly. It’s called self brainwashing. It also insures complete ignorance.
I believe this should be the quote of the year. She just did the best job in history of summing up the liberal mental disorder.
Gregor on July 2, 2007 at 1:38 PM
Speaking on behalf of Vince Foster, I’ll second that.
fogw on July 2, 2007 at 1:46 PM
Difference being that Mr. Keith actually worked hard and earned his money and the Edwards’ got it they way a lot of White Trash do: they sued for it.
foxforce91 on July 2, 2007 at 1:46 PM
Ok, Toby Keith is just owning the term.
The Edwards are just plain low-down, no-good bastard people.
Stormy70 on July 2, 2007 at 1:47 PM
No wonder Ann used the F word to describe silky, she cut’em off a long time ago.
Ms Coulter is easy to underestimate and Conservatives even demonize her instead of thinking anywhere past the tip of their noses.
Ann knows full well that when money is donated to silky’s campaign that’s money not going to HillBill or Obamanation.
Which this might be slightly off topic but:
If the final tickets are.
HillBill versus Rudy= HillBill Pres.
HillBill versus Fred!= Fred! Pres.
Rudy Versus Obama= Rudy Pres.
Obama versus Fred!= Obama Pres.
HillBill has experience but she’s hated by everybody but Rudy has lost to her before (and she’s a closet communist).
Fred! versus HillBill Fred! wins because he has no history against her and she’s hated by everybody and both are white.
Rudy Versus Obama Rudy is a great leader and Obama has no substance other than smooth talk.
The conundrum being that Fred! versus Obama ends up being a north versus south campaign, Fred! might lose on those terms to the uber lib Obama.
Speakup on July 2, 2007 at 1:48 PM
I’ve a dear friend who truly does think that he knows more about what it good for you than you do, and that people like him’s opinions are more valuable than the opinions of people like you and me. And as such, people like him SHOULD be making decisions for the rest of us. He doesn’t see the hypocrisy of this view, which is completely amazing to me.
Your opinions might stink like Friday’s fish dinner in the sink, but you’ve the right to ‘em.
As long as you don’t try to make me live by them, of course.
Bob's Kid on July 2, 2007 at 1:58 PM
Edwards wife said that real belief is believing so strongly that you won’t acknowledge another persons view. Spoken like a real fanatic that only sees the world one way….their way. That’s like a lie to a liberal. It doesn’t matter if the facts are true or false, but only if YOU believe it. Their campaign in the toilet anf a hand is on the lever.
volsense on July 2, 2007 at 1:59 PM
Speakup, who wins if it’s Kucinich versus Tommy Thompson?
radjah shelduck on July 2, 2007 at 2:00 PM
How marvelously tolerant the liberal left is. So tolerant they don’t want to hear alternate points of view. No wonder they love Chavez and Castro so much.
katieanne on July 2, 2007 at 1:00 PM
–
“The principle feature of American liberalism is sanctimoniousness. By loudly denouncing all bad things-war and hunger and date rape-liberals testify to their own terrific goodness. More important, they promote themselves to membership in a self-selecting elite of those who care deeply about such things. It’s a kind of natural aristocracy, and the wonderful thing about this aristocracy is that you don’t have to be brave, smart, strong or even lucky to join it, you just have to be liberal.”
P. J. O’Rourke Give War a Chance, Introduction (1992).
Ann Coulter — right again!
georgej on July 2, 2007 at 2:04 PM
Elizabeth Edwards thinks its okay to:
1. Express an opinion with vigor
2. Seem like a mother scolding you
3. Express a view with clarity and force
4. Believe in something so strongly that you don’t acknowledge another’s point of view
..ONLY as long as SHE is the only one doing it!
nottakingsides on July 2, 2007 at 2:05 PM
The people who make super duper pooper scoopers.
Speakup on July 2, 2007 at 2:08 PM
That’s insulting to white trash.
crazy_legs on July 2, 2007 at 2:10 PM
For all the Toby Keith fans, in the interest of full disclosure, he is a card carrying Democrat and will tell anybody who asks. That has got to drive Natalie Mains of the “Dixie Twits” nuts.
LakeRuins on July 2, 2007 at 2:14 PM
Silky Ponies’ stronger half must have remembered Wayne Campbell of Wayne’s World quoting the same two, (Neitzsche or Kiekegaard), (in Cantonese). Perhaps it just stuck in her N/K mindset that says: “you have to believe in something so strongly that you don’t acknowledge another’s point of view”.
I don’t think either one of those writers were the awful, horrible, terrible right winger truth-sayers like Ann, Laura, Michelle, Rush, Sean, or the Voldemort of the MSM: Savage.
Gasp and sputter…
Christine on July 2, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Elizabeth Edwards opens her mouth and little balls of dookie roll out.
csdeven on July 2, 2007 at 2:24 PM
O/T McCain raises 11.2 mil this quarter. Fires staffers and some take pay cuts.
Buh Bye!
csdeven on July 2, 2007 at 2:27 PM
Strong
Smart
Obtuse
Democrat
natesnake on July 2, 2007 at 2:28 PM
Interesting take … how you find the truth so offensive.
How do you feel about lies, cover-ups and fake but accurate news reporting?
fogw on July 2, 2007 at 2:28 PM
She has the “absolute moral authority” bi-fecta, a dead son, and cancer. How dare anyone question her!
bmac on July 2, 2007 at 2:42 PM
Blasted Outlook Express wouldn’t allow me to send this story as a tip last night.
I recognised immediately what a telling statement that is about the “progressive” mind-set.
“Real belief” indeed.
Prob’ly missed my only chance at HA fame.
Hmm…maybe if I built a robot that…
soundingboard on July 2, 2007 at 2:47 PM
You all do not understand – you have to be a liberal to understand Mrs. Silk Pony. If you do not have the stomach to become a liberal, you will never get it.
Get it now?
On-my-soap-box on July 2, 2007 at 2:48 PM
She’s a stupid person, married to a scheister with a lot of money. White trash elevated to royalty — not worthy of more discussion.
But her fag husband is, and Allah’s headline from Extreme Mortman is great fun. The picture from the Men’s Vogue cover has this pansy going with the Full Brokeback Cowboy look. Is he just messing with Coulter’s mind, or is he really a queer?
Jaibones on July 2, 2007 at 2:52 PM
PS…Yes, I know robots are AP’s thing, and this is Bryan’s story, ( I actually read the bylines), but still,…
soundingboard on July 2, 2007 at 2:53 PM
It’s good to know that your viciousness and juvenile name-calling basically represents the average conservative nowadays. It’ll help to keep you clowns out of power for a long time to come.
And by the way, please fetch a different picture of Coulter next time. That one was GROSS. A person’s armpit isn’t supposed to look like an underwater ravine.
Fragility on July 2, 2007 at 2:55 PM
And this coming from a person who no doubt fantasizes about Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton.
No better irony than listening to a liberal whine about name calling. Got any photos of Bush in Hitler garb hanging on your wall? How about Condi. Bet you’ve had all kinds of fun insulting her, huh?
Gag.
Gregor on July 2, 2007 at 3:04 PM
To join the would-be world rulers who meet in the dark halls of the liberal elite, you must adhere to their philosophical creed AND be able to repeat, without reference to notes or crib sheets, the ultimate wise words that compose their most fundamental super-secret guiding belief:
Do what we say,
Ignore what we do!
For WE are the only ones,
who know what’s best for you!
Fatal on July 2, 2007 at 3:05 PM
It’s good to know that your viciousness and juvenile name-calling basically represents the average conservative nowadays. It’ll help to keep you clowns out of power for a long time to come.
And by the way, please fetch a different picture of Coulter next time. That one was GROSS. A person’s armpit isn’t supposed to look like an underwater ravine.
Fragility on July 2, 2007 at 2:55 PM
ROFL
Fragility, you just berated yourself (name calling). Classic liberal tactic. And, for your information, your assessment of the “average conservative” is all wrong. If it were, by your very definition you are now an average conservative.
On-my-soap-box on July 2, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Sorry, but that’s not belief, it’s delusion. Belief is being willing to hold to your principles, even when the whole world despises you for it.
Jezla on July 2, 2007 at 3:15 PM
You’re a new troll here, aren’t you? We welcome your lunacy and laugh at your predicatable hypocrisy. Name calling bad, making fun of someone’s appearance – OK.
As for myself, I can’t recall ever seeing an attractive woman and being drawn to her armpits. Yikes.
fogw on July 2, 2007 at 3:16 PM
Uh-Huh, sorta like that “Rabid Republican” that lives across the street from you and who owns a gun or 2? Puleez!
Saw interviews with that rabid Republican and his trailer park neighbors (White Trash folk, in the Edward’s eyes). The Hairspray twins have never bothered to go visiting with their poorer neighbors. Wonder why that is? hmmmmm…..
The woman reminds me of an 8-tit moo-moo.
SouthernPride on July 2, 2007 at 3:23 PM
The irony is, the wannabe leader of the free world, has his wife do the fighting for him.
right2bright on July 2, 2007 at 1:07 PM
This worked once for democrats not too long ago
Joey1974 on July 2, 2007 at 3:25 PM
It is always irrational to not acknowledge another’s point of view, regardless of the passion of your belief. It is wise, appropriate, and acceptable to DISMISS another’s point of view once you have acknowledged it, if it fails to meet a standard of truth or compliance with your existing worldview. There is a glaring difference between considering, then rejecting an argument, and dismissing it out-of-hand with no consideration.
This is one of the primary differences between thought from the left and from the right, and we must always be aware of it. Trying to debate them on premises they won’t even acknowledge as having potential value shows its fruitlessness. It is best to find a broad way to appeal to the reason of all those people who have not gone this far into the mental sickness of liberalism.
I think of that quote often of late. O’Rourke was on the nose, and so was Ann.
Folks, ignore Fragility. He comments on commenters, never on the topic. He’s much poorer at the misdirection and topic-shift game than many who have gone before him, so he makes up for it with greater passion. There’s no THERE, there.
Freelancer on July 2, 2007 at 3:26 PM
On a very serious note, Mrs. Edwards, the staunchly convicted and non-nuanced one (similar to Messrs Bush 43, Cheney and Rumsfeld, and not at all like Mr. John Kerry), looks increasingly ill.
Entelechy on July 2, 2007 at 3:47 PM
The thing is, as much as we disagree with her opinions, we’ll still sympathize with her over that. Which is reason #117 on the list of reasons why we’re better than the nutroots.
ReubenJCogburn on July 2, 2007 at 3:52 PM
That’s moonbat speak for “It’s okay to be rude so long as you are a liberal.” Tony Blair spoke with clarity and force. Ronald Reagan spoke with clarity and force.
Elizabeth Edwards (and most of the Democrats) simply say uncivil things and then prance around as if they have just delivered the Gettysburg address.
highhopes on July 2, 2007 at 4:01 PM
Behind this
any strongweak man, you find astrongpushy, opinionated woman.Abu Daboo Doo on July 2, 2007 at 4:06 PM
So she did or didn’t agree with Amanda Marcotte?
The Pitbull is looking mighty peaked. However, that doesn’t give her any excuse to be let off easy. Given Silky’s history at playing off misfortune. Don’t think that won’t be played up. Even in this full article, one of the reasons she says it seems she has a bigger role is “because of the cancer.”
I’ve lost many people close to me from cancer. It’s horrible and I can definitely empathize. But please don’t use it politically
PowWow on July 2, 2007 at 4:10 PM
BTW pitbull has nothing to do with her looks juat attack dog reference. Just to clarify. Not name calling
PowWow on July 2, 2007 at 4:14 PM
Just another variation on the liberal’s, “Freedom of speech for me, but not for thee,” philosophy.
I am passionate about not wanting John Edwards to be president of the United States. However, if I expressed this viewpoint, “with clarity and force,” on the JohnEdwards blog, I have no doubt whatsoever that it would be summarily discarded.
The hypocrisy of liberals knows no bounds.
JannyMae on July 2, 2007 at 4:31 PM
Ok, I’ll clarify as well. I was not calling Dame Edwards a Cow. I was only referring to her cud-chewin’ style of speaking.
And, the other day when I spelled out the word “Faggot” when referring to Mr. “I’m so Pretty, Oh so Pretty”, I was referring to the UK version of the word which means:
“A meatball made from pork.”
SouthernPride on July 2, 2007 at 4:34 PM
I just want to compliment Bryan on his comments, which I was diligently scrolling down through and at the last sentence,
“I like it when somebody expresses their view with clarity and force…”
Really?And then unexpectedly, scrolling into view immediately was THAT photo of Ann Coulter, with THAT expression.
I laughed out loud.
Just worked perfectly!
“Fragility” up there is just ticked because it’s plain devastating.
naliaka on July 2, 2007 at 4:35 PM
How many times do I have to point this out? It’s not “irony”; it’s “hypocrisy”.
It makes a difference.
JohnJ on July 2, 2007 at 4:42 PM
Is that pronounced Fra’geel‘it’ee?
Must be Italian.
reaganaut on July 2, 2007 at 4:45 PM
That’s the best picture of Ann Coulter’s mind I’ve ever seen.
Halley on July 2, 2007 at 4:49 PM
“Nouveau riche white trash” probably says it best; conveys the gauche cluelessness of a grasping little hustler like Edwards nicely.
And on a related note, down here in Cotton Country we used to have another word for folks like Silky’s oh-so-hard-workin’, poor, put-upon lower class victim of a daddy: down here, we used to call people like him “Boss-man,” or just “Sir” for short.
Just getting a little tired of hearing that empty-suit fraud talk about how rough he had it, when his daddy in truth was a mill manager, and hardly a peon. He wouldn’t even know what a pair of brogans is, much less ever dream of wearing ‘em. Soft clothes for him, and nothing else, ever.
Mike H on July 2, 2007 at 4:54 PM
Oh, and reaganaut: Why, that was indescribably beautiful!
;)
Mike H on July 2, 2007 at 4:58 PM
The reason she’s being so loud is because no one DARES to question her…she has cancer ya know!
This will get me called names, but I am expecting a miracle remission of Mrs. Edwards’ cancer very, very soon. I do wish her well, but these two pieces of trash have no shame, and nothing they do would surprise me.
SouthernGent on July 2, 2007 at 8:04 PM
“Fragility” says that Ann Coulter’s armpit looks like an “underwater ravine”???
That’s quite an imagination you’ve got there Fragility. Do you see seaweed? Manta Rays? Sharks? Barnacles? Buried treasure?
Paging Dr. Freud!
Buy Danish on July 2, 2007 at 8:37 PM
Fine rant.
Jaibones on July 2, 2007 at 10:34 PM
I was trying to keep it real, Frag.
“Underwater ravine”?
Jaibones on July 2, 2007 at 10:36 PM
I second Halley. Great pic of her mind up there. The fact that Bryan picked that one ensured I heard Ann’s voice speaking the last sentence when I read it. Bravo!
inviolet on July 3, 2007 at 6:43 AM
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