Breaking: President Bush to commute Libby’s sentence; Update: Fred celebrates! Update: “Disgraceful,” says Reid; Update: “Holy sh*t,” says Rosie! Update: Snap poll — Americans oppose 21/60; Update: Bush is an accessory, says Wilson Update: Video, Olbermann & Wilson rage

posted at 5:45 pm on July 2, 2007 by Bryan

John Gibson just announced it on The Big Story. Details to follow.

More: Earlier today, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit refused to put Libby’s sentence on hold, meaning he would have had to go to jail while his appeal was ongoing.

Update (AP): I guess this is his way of splitting the difference between people who want Libby pardoned and people who think he should serve out the sentence prescribed by the judicial process. It should earn him a point or two with the base after the shamnesty debacle.

Update (AP): Splittin’ the difference:

“My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby,” Bush said in a statement. “The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private citizen will be long-lasting.”

The president’s action means that Libby’s conviction still stands and he is still required to pay the $250,000 fine ordered by a federal judge.

Update (AP): Rush appealed for a pardon this afternoon. No doubt this will be played by advocates of the Fairness Doctrine as Bush having done talk radio’s bidding.

Update (AP): Here’s Bush’s full statement. “Mr. Fitzgerald is a highly qualified, professional prosecutor who carried out his responsibilities as charged.”

Update (AP): Reaction:

“As Independence Day nears, we’re reminded that one of the principles our forefathers fought for was equal justice under the law. This commutation completely tramples on that principle,” Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said through a spokesman.

Libby’s supporters celebrated.

“That’s fantastic. It’s a great relief,” said former Ambassador Richard Carlson, who helped raise millions for Libby’s defense fund. “Scooter Libby did not deserve to go to prison and I’m glad the president had the courage to do this.”

Update (AP): More reaction — from Fred: “I am very happy for Scooter Libby. I know that this is a great relief to him, his wife and children. While for a long time I have urged a pardon for Scooter, I respect the President’s decision. This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life.”

Update (AP): “I don’t underrate the seriousness of perjury, but in sentencing, or using the pardon power, you consider mitigating factors. Unlike the Paula Jones case, no individual litigant was harmed by obstruction of the discovery process. And unlike the Sandy Berger case, there was no successful coverup.”

Update (AP): Stories like this are so transparently partisan that it’s almost not worth covering the reaction.

Senator Harry Reid, Democratic Majority Leader, called the commutation ‘disgraceful.’

“The President’s decision to commute Mr. Libby’s sentence is disgraceful. Libby’s conviction was the one faint glimmer of accountability for White House efforts to manipulate intelligence and silence critics of the Iraq War. Now, even that small bit of justice has been undone,” Reid said in a statement. “The Constitution gives President Bush the power to commute sentences, but history will judge him harshly for using that power to benefit his own Vice President’s Chief of Staff who was convicted of such a serious violation of law.”

Update (AP): More from Raw Story — the Wilsons’ lawyer, who doubles as the head of CREW, is none too pleased.

Melanie Sloan, the executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, who is representing the Plame and her husband Ambassador Joe Wilson in a civil suit against Libby and other top Bush administration officials, slammed the decision on behalf of the Wilsons.

“First, President Bush said any person who leaked would no longer work in his administration. Nonetheless, Scooter Libby didn’t leave office until he was indicted and Karl Rove works in the White House even today,” Sloan said in a statement sent to RAW STORY. “More recently, the vice president ignored an executive order protecting classified information, claiming he isn’t really part of the executive branch. Clearly, this is an administration that believes leaking classified information for political ends is justified and that the law is what applies to other people.”

Update (AP): CNN compares Bush’s record on pardons and commutations to the last 10 presidents’. Plus: reaction round-up, featuring Joe Biden calling on Americans to flood the White House phone lines the way amnesty opponents did in sinking the POS immigration bill!

Update (AP): Now we know for sure it was a bad decision.

THE GUYS IN CHARGE R CRIMINALS
IMPEACH CHENEY THEN BUSH
ASAP

Update (AP): Filled with heart-ache is the NYT.

Update (AP): Survey USA has already conducted a snap poll. The White House won’t like the results.

Update (AP): “The jury said Scooter Libby did the crime. He should do the time.”

Update (AP): Holy Joe Wilson speaks!

In an interview with ABC News Radio, Joseph Wilson said Bush’s commutation of I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby’s prison term demonstrates that “this administration is corrupt to the core – from top to bottom.”…

In commuting part of Libby’s sentence, Wilson says, President Bush is complicit in Libby’s crimes.

“He is an accessory to the obstruction of justice in this commutation of the sentence,” Wilson told ABC News. “He, himself, is now under a cloud.”

Update (Bryan): Courtesy Ms Underestimated, here’s a meeting of the addled minds. Keith Olbermann and Joe Wilson discuss the Libby pardon. You get it all, from Wilson’s loopy lies to Olby’s wacky conspiracy theories. It’s just what you expect, which makes it perfect. Perfectly insane, but perfect.

Update (AP): WaPo reports that Bush’s friends and most aides were told not to bug him about Libby. Why? “The White House’s handling of the Libby case appears to have been designed to make it possible for Bush to say he was not the subject of undue political pressure in the same manner that President Bill Clinton was lobbied to make controversial pardons in the final days of his administration.”


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Bush probably just shrugged his shoulders after the shamnesty debacle and said, “Feh, what have I got to lose now? Get me the pen.”

CrimsonFisted on July 2, 2007 at 8:37 PM

And Bush takes one small step back towards the circle of trust.

Gosh, it’s been a fun two weeks!

simon on July 2, 2007 at 8:42 PM

Harry was heard saying, ” I could give George Bush such a pinch”.

400lb Gorilla on July 2, 2007 at 8:59 PM

FLLaw33870 on July 2, 2007 at 7:53 PM

I posted this link earlier in the day. You forgot all the crack dealers he pardoned….

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

repvoter on July 2, 2007 at 9:02 PM

FLLaw33870 on July 2, 2007 at 7:53 PM

OH yes this is the tip. These are the very issues that the country needs to be aware of. Put this info in the political ads that will get the truth out during the campaign

sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Question: can Scooter Libby ocntinue his appeal given that only a commutation of sentence was involved and left other sanctions (fine and probation) in place?

Phil Byler on July 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM

FLLaw33870 on July 2, 2007 at 7:53 PM

Wish Dick Morris had your list while arguing with Colmes on pardons and commutations a few minutes ago on H&C. He came up with a couple of them is all. He did nicely make the point that not only did clinton issue a lot of undeserved pardons, he got well PAID for those pardons

LegendHasIt on July 2, 2007 at 9:11 PM

Nonfactor must be writing in from the Atlantic where he is cathing all those red herrings.

The only thing he probably knows about this case is that Libby was COS for Cheney. That is enough, in his mind, to send Libby to jail.

I didn’t think it was ever a question of Libby going to jail. I was pretty sure Bush would make a move before the door went *clink*

VolMagic on July 2, 2007 at 9:12 PM

Those two chaps just are not Skulls and Bones material.
V the K on July 2, 2007 at 8:32 PM

And the black helis are watching you…you are the only one being monitored…listen to the clicking on the phone when you call…skull and bones, whoooooo, the boogey man…the secret society with a base on the other side of the moon.

right2bright on July 2, 2007 at 9:15 PM

Must be a New Yorker thing that you are obsessed with Rosie and must follow her every move like a secret lover and quote her whenever food is not in between the world and her bile.

Please, ignore her. She is a moron. There are other fish in the sea. Only smaller and better formed.

AZCON on July 2, 2007 at 9:20 PM

Ha Ha Greasy Joe says we should flood the White House with phone calls opposing the commute decision. Sure Joe as soon an Allah gets his new iPhone he promises to pass it around.

sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 9:21 PM

I wonder how long it takes Ro’s maid to clean the crayon off her monitor every time she posts to her blog.

Wingo on July 2, 2007 at 9:23 PM

“First, President Bush said any person who leaked would no longer work in his administration. Nonetheless, Scooter Libby didn’t leave office until he was indicted and Karl Rove works in the White House even today,”

Arrrrrrrrrrrrggghhhh! They didn’t leak it. I’m going to find some liberals and keep telling some absurd lie over and over again, just to see how long it takes for them to believe it.

Attention liberals! Get your collective heads out of your arses, start being Americans again, and help us “grown-ups” deal with the real threats we face.

Hint: the real threat is not Halliburton, Global Warming, or the American family.

Cripes, I’m so sick of you friggin’ losers.

reaganaut on July 2, 2007 at 9:24 PM

Eh, screw liberals on this. I’m no fan of Bush these days, but I found this decision of his right. He did NOT pardon him – he allowed the conviction and heavy fine to remain. That’s a great deal more than Clinton ever gave us, although idiots like Harry Reid will never acknowledge it.

Vyce on July 2, 2007 at 9:24 PM

I think the best comment/suggestion on the whole affair was made by Ace:

Our long national nightmare silly fantasia is over.

Suggestion: Bush should have reduced the fine to a more reasonable $50,000, which just so happens to be how much Sandy Berger was fined for stealing and destroying classified documents and lying about it to investigators (he wasn’t charged for the latter, but subsequent revelations has made it clear he did just that).

Making the fine $50,000 would have been more in line with Libby’s transgressions, and it would have made it harder for Democrats to argue against it. The penalty — no jail time, $50,000, probation — would have been so similar to Berger’s that one could scarcely mention it without also mentioning Berger.

AntonK on July 2, 2007 at 9:25 PM

Wow…bad week to be a liberal,huh? ;)

DCJeff on July 2, 2007 at 9:26 PM

home run, reaganaut!

AZCON on July 2, 2007 at 9:26 PM

Tim Russert deserved more jail time than Libby

tomas on July 2, 2007 at 9:26 PM

Oh, no. Another red herring:
http://tinyurl.com/2hf8ma

(The Corner also has some more on this, including Fitzgerald’s response.)

andycanuck on July 2, 2007 at 9:26 PM

Oh, snap, Ro-Ro’s back with the Haiku Disses!

She’s a stunning example of the proof of evolution. She’s got the physiology of a Gigantopithicus and the cranial capacity of an Australopithicus. Screw The Price is Right, put that monkey in the Smithsonian!

Mindcrime on July 2, 2007 at 9:26 PM

Lies Lies Lies the NYT isn’t ashamed to tell outright lies that have already been debunked. They must depend on the short memories of their alcoholic/drug culture readership. They depend on burn outs. Heh Heh so now its Valerie Wilson Hmm are we getting out morals now in time for the 08 campaign? Hillary Rodam Clinton became Mrs. Bill Clinton. The Christian moral majority is not stupid NYT. You cannot change your image and expect anyone to forget your feminist non family values. Ha Ha hows your way working with all the single moms Ha Ha

sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 9:32 PM

God bless our Great President!

MichelleFanClub on July 2, 2007 at 9:33 PM

Scooter Libby got screwed from the get go.
Sandy berger steals classified documemts,
and is free.
Now the fun starts,this will be on CNN,HARDBALL,
and every other LIBERAL propaganda channel 24/7,
for the next six months.

canopfor on July 2, 2007 at 9:38 PM

Huh. I would have expected significantly more seething.

She’s just getting warmed up.

Jim Treacher on July 2, 2007 at 9:48 PM

I knew this subject would Bring out the Trolls, and…..presto !! Nonfactor & tomas appear !!

……with not a single True Worthwhile Fact, of course

I know some of you like to play ‘Whack-a-Mole’ with these wankers, and maybe some purpose is achieved, but……

Janos Hunyadi on July 2, 2007 at 9:51 PM

Now he needs to pardon those Border Patrol Agents who were doing their jobs.

PBoilermaker on July 2, 2007 at 5:47 PM

Hear Him!

TheSitRep on July 2, 2007 at 9:52 PM

What a non-issue. this is right up there with hilton coverage. I wonder you the hell cares. with all the REAL problems this country is facing what the hell is one guy. I wish Bush would have finally showed some balls and fully pardoned him and told the Dems to go to hell but he again played wishy-washy when the time for a decsion came. Always strikes the middle path and pisses off everyone both Dems,Reps and ind. If your going to take the heat you might as well go full throttle and go all the way.

short answer. A good thing but it could have been great if the President showed some courage

unseen on July 2, 2007 at 9:59 PM

I am for the President’s action. Now, revoke the Wilson’s’ security clearances and passports.

Zorro on July 2, 2007 at 10:00 PM

THANKS GWB About time you made a statement that will wind up the libs so hot they will implode. Chucky boy is usless and just a plain sore loser period. He is no patriot in my book along with the other 30 he hangs with. I am glad Bush made a move. I hope he keeps at them till they lose thier minds trying to figure out something to hang Bush on. It will keep them all busy.

bones47 on July 2, 2007 at 10:01 PM

Janos Hunyadi on July 2, 2007 at 9:51 PM

Don’t forget csdeven’s attempted insults at the “Fredheads” and “groupies”.

speed911 on July 2, 2007 at 10:05 PM

Question: can Scooter Libby continue his appeal given that only a commutation of sentence was involved and left other sanctions (fine and probation) in place?

Phil Byler on July 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM

Yes Libby can…had Bush pardoned Libby that would have stopped and ended the appeal; therefore, Libby would have lost the opportunity to overturn the conviction.

If Libby wins the appeal, then GREAT and he will not have spent a day in jail. If Libby loses his appeals, then at least he had the opportunity to try.

Bush can ALWAYS later Pardon Libby before he (President) leaves office. That is still an option.

FLLaw33870 on July 2, 2007 at 10:14 PM

I am for the President’s action. Now, revoke the Wilson’s’ security clearances and passports.

Zorro on July 2, 2007 at 10:00 PM

I heard Wilson on CNN. Wilson sounded like a mentally ill man that is consumed with hate for Bush. How Wilson became an Ambassador is beyond me. If Wilson is an active Ambassador, then God Help Us.

FLLaw33870 on July 2, 2007 at 10:16 PM

Update: Snap poll — Americans oppose 21/60

A bit misleading AP… another 17% say that he should have gotten the full pardon, so while not exactly accurate, it paints a clearer picture to say 38/60… which I have to say is surprisingly high, given what the media has lead people to believe about this case.

Has anyone ever read an article where it wasn’t called the “CIA leak case”, even though there was no “leak” at least in the criminal sense, and it certainly wasn’t done by Libby (reminder: we know, though the American public generally doesn’t, that the Bush critic Richard Armitage was the unintentional “leaker” of a name that it wasn’t illegal to leak). This wasn’t a “CIA leak case”, it was a fishing expedition just to appease the Dems, and if the media were remotely fair they’d at least call it the “Libby perjury case”, because that was all the “case” brought against him was about.

So how the hell is the public supposed to give an informed opinion on a pardon/commutation when they think Libby was convicted in the “CIA leak case” and when they’re under the impression that Plame was undercover and a “leakable” name, and that Libby did it because the White House was pissed that Wilson didn’t toe the company line (obviously that’s total BS, but this is what most of the country has been told, and continues to be told by the media).

I guess the poll is worth noting, just for potential political ramifications, but it’s results are predictable, if not a little better than one might expect given the misinformation campaign. It’s the same as polls repeatedly showing that more than half the country thinks the economy is either in recession or they don’t know and that the vast majority rank the economy negatively. Dems say because despite good economic numbers, it sucks because it’s just the rich getting richer. But when these same polls ask folks about their own finances, the folks rank their situations overwhelmingly positively. When the folks are lied to, their opinion means jack… which is why we should have testing for voters. You can’t vote unless you can get a certain score on a test, proving you’re somewhat informed.

RightWinged on July 2, 2007 at 10:21 PM

About that poll.

The breakdown came from 825 “adults” familiar with the case. OK, but what kind of “adults”:

Democrats: 334
Republicans: 242
Independents: 236

I think I’ll pass on this poll, thank you

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=4b5255b9-3878-4082-b7d0-160d8ddcd52e

bnelson44 on July 2, 2007 at 10:26 PM

By the way, to get the numbers, there is a pull down menu on the bottom left to get counts.

bnelson44 on July 2, 2007 at 10:27 PM

We all know that an informed Democrat voter is one that gets info from Jon Stewart and can’t peal him/her self away from American Idol.

Brilliant, pass me another hit of that crack.

warpmine on July 2, 2007 at 10:38 PM

RightWinged on July 2, 2007 at 10:21 PM

THWAAK! It’s a looong fly ball, deep, deep, outta the ballpark!

hillbillyjim on July 2, 2007 at 10:50 PM

Everyone say it with me:

“Valerie Plame”…LMAO.

SouthernGent on July 2, 2007 at 10:53 PM

Bush just doesn’t have the Malkins for the job anymore. Praising Fitzgerald was just pathetic. This should have been a full pardon, followed by an apology. How this went beyond day one I just don’t get. Armitage is probably having a good laugh with Sandy Burglar right now.

On the bright side watching the left lose it is quite amusing.

Hammerhead on July 2, 2007 at 10:54 PM

featuring Joe Biden calling on Americans to flood the White House phone lines the way amnesty opponents did

I just did. Thank you, Mr. President. Justice has now been served.

BacaDog on July 2, 2007 at 10:59 PM

I am sure highlights are coming but…

KP said it was a waste of time, and a waste of taxpayers money etc.

Laura did not say much about it, however she did not scream about injustice, bigot, racist, etc which is says allot IMO.

F15Mech on July 2, 2007 at 11:00 PM

Just in time after he got us angry about the immigration issue, he needed to add more savings to the emotional bank account. It isn’t exactly about Libby, it is about getting more points he lost with conservative voters over immigration.

StuLongIsland on July 2, 2007 at 11:02 PM

“Valerie Plame”…LMAO.

SouthernGent on July 2, 2007 at 10:53 PM

What the hell kind of name is “Plame” anyway? I think she made it up. Her real name was Brunhilda Lipschitz.

IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 11:05 PM

[bnelson44 on July 2, 2007 at 10:26 PM]

Thanks for noting that.

Dusty on July 2, 2007 at 11:06 PM

Bush is taking heat because the commutation was premature and, hence, unnecessary. Bush has the executive power; the POTUS administers the federal prisons. Therefore he could have delayed accepting Libby into the prison system until the appellate process had completely been played out.

chsw

chsw on July 2, 2007 at 11:06 PM

F15Mech, Laura didn’t spew the talking points in that venue because she would have gotten body slammed by Michelle. She knew it wasn’t Larry King or Chris Matthews and she better not bring that crap in Michelle’s house if she didn’t want to have to walk away looking like an idiot (Jane Fleming should take notes).

RightWinged on July 2, 2007 at 11:08 PM

Pathetic Bush only commuted, should have been a full pardon. Yet Sandy Burglar walks free.

At least watching the left go postal is worth a few laughs.

Hammerhead on July 2, 2007 at 11:13 PM

Great job on the Factor Michelle. Always welcome some intelligence on that show. Oh, I followed that link to Rosie’s website…Does her “wife” look frightened as hell? And did Big Ro do that to her

PowWow on July 2, 2007 at 11:14 PM

he could have delayed accepting Libby into the prison system until the appellate process had completely been played out.

chsw on July 2, 2007 at 11:06 PM

You must have missed this: they were not going to allow him to remain free while he awaited appeal. That’s why Bush had to act now.

IrishEi on July 2, 2007 at 11:15 PM

The Republican Party is hardly “the population.”

Nonfactor on July 2, 2007 at 6:39 PM

Last I knew, there are more people registered as Republicans than moonbat mental cases…

stacman on July 2, 2007 at 11:17 PM

Rosie is such an effing moron. (Her replies in italics)

Jana writes:

Well the democrats have ignored Armitage the real leaker,so I think the punishmnt was fair.

i do not think armitage was the real leaker
i think he agreed to take the fall

Imp writes:

It’s hard to take you seriously on any political issue when your poll ratings are lower than George Bush’s. And you’re not even a politician! You don’t have the same information access.

honey – i aint elected
polls mean shit unless u r in office
i am a citizen
like millions of others
AND WE R PISSED OFF

RightWinged on July 2, 2007 at 11:25 PM

Legal opinions by Tommy Chong and Alec Baldwin should be out tomorrow.

Limerick on July 2, 2007 at 11:33 PM

Flashback…

Shock: Guess who wants Libby pardoned? Update: Video added

Nobody important. Just one of the jurors who convicted him. Spoken on Hardball:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/07/shock-guess-who-wants-libby-pardoned/

freedomplow on July 2, 2007 at 11:40 PM

My reaction: It’s about time you did something right, Mr. President.

infidel4life on July 2, 2007 at 11:41 PM

Last I knew, there are more people registered as Republicans than moonbat mental cases…

stacman on July 2, 2007 at 11:17 PM

As far as what I’ve read, that is incorrect. There are slightly more people registered DEM (maybe 2-3% more), and the vast majority “independent.” And regardless, if the poll is anywhere near accurate at 60/21 against GWB’s decision, that is all of the “DEM” voters, a few GoPers and nearly all of the independents that disagree with the choice.

Am I the only one here who is disturbed by this decision? We are supposed to be the party of law and order…of high moral standards, the party of Reagan…yet decision after decision, (sh)amnesty included, the GOP sinks as low as the DEMs do. Yes, Sandy Berger should be prosecuted and should serve the sentence laid out by the jury. As should Libby. Whatever problems there might have been in the case, the prosecution, whatever, a jury deemed him guilty and the judge’s penalty should be respected. I’ve read a lot of comments here that seem happy that Scooter skated the law & consequences here. This doesn’t seem like the right response.

Constant Parrhesia on July 2, 2007 at 11:46 PM

Boo! WMV is awful.

Mindcrime on July 2, 2007 at 11:47 PM

Boo! WMV is awful.

Stick around. Flash is coming.

Bryan on July 2, 2007 at 11:49 PM

She is a moron.

A moron she is; a poet she ain’t.

she thinks that writing
sentences
in small
case
letters
makes poetry.
never stopping to check
for facts;
inconvenient truths lie littered by
the dumpsters
of her
so
called
mind

smellthecoffee on July 2, 2007 at 11:49 PM

I can’t listen to Obes or Wilson.Not because the WMV is bad,Because the mere timbre of their voices nauseates me, let alone the drival and dreck that pours out of their vile little pie holes.

bbz123 on July 2, 2007 at 11:54 PM

Good to know that the portion of the population that disagreed with Bush the most were young voters.

60% of America disagreeing with conservatives? No, it couldn’t be!

If I didn’t know any better, I’d have thought you guys were complete, laughable hypocrites who called for Clinton’s impeachment for perjury but then tried to justify one of your own ilk doing the same thing, and the fact that you would do so against the will of 60% of the population – why, it just make you, elitists.

Snobby little elitists. You know what’s best for America, even if America hates your guts. Yup.

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 12:08 AM

Liberal moonbats frothing at the mouth is a beautiful sight. Thank you, President Bush, for the early July 4th present.

Chris Matthews had to call in and sputter and spit on Hardball tonight. Heh.

Stormy70 on July 3, 2007 at 12:09 AM

When does Plame’s perjury trial start? After all she said she didn’t reccomend Mr. Wilson for the trip, under oath

PowWow on July 3, 2007 at 12:10 AM

As far as what I’ve read, that is incorrect. There are slightly more people registered DEM (maybe 2-3% more), and the vast majority “independent.”

No, actually, you’re just demonstrating the typical conservative ignorance of the demographics of the American electorate. If you want a snapshot of the political breakdown in this country head over to Rasmussen.

It goes like this:

Ideology:
32-35% conservative
20-22% liberal
44-49% moderate

Self-identification:
36-38% Democrat
29-32% Republican
29-31% Independent

The majority are by NO means independent. This is a partisan country. In the last election Democrats held a hefty 6-8% advantage over Republicans in self-identification. It’s about 4-6 now.

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 12:13 AM

F15Mech, Laura didn’t spew the talking points in that venue because she would have gotten body slammed by Michelle. She knew it wasn’t Larry King or Chris Matthews and she better not bring that crap in Michelle’s house if she didn’t want to have to walk away looking like an idiot (Jane Fleming should take notes).

RightWinged on July 2, 2007 at 11:08 PM

Agreed, The immigration lawyer after KP and Laura should have taken the same notes.

F15Mech on July 3, 2007 at 12:28 AM

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 12:13 AM

Don’t they have a 12-Step group for statistical masturbation?

infidel4life on July 3, 2007 at 12:30 AM

another issue to froth up the fredheads?

Only frothing I ever see about Fred is from the gibbering you do whenever his name is mentioned. You should start ending your posts about fred with a ‘Dean scream’…or what’s that noise that the stupid robot from Buck Rogers made? Sounds like a blithering idiot diddling his lips…bidi bidi bidi. What was his name? Tweeki. Maybe you should have AP change your handle.

As for Libby, I think it was a step in the right direction. Should have been a full pardon though. Leave it to El Presidente to go for the half a** solution. Has anyone checked on the President by the way? The last person I’d go anywhere on a boat with would be a former KGB guy; hope they checked old Pooty poot for cement galoshes.

austinnelly on July 3, 2007 at 12:33 AM

austin, its Twiki. *BIDIBIDIBIDI*

Bad Candy on July 3, 2007 at 12:37 AM

maybe he should serve as much time as billy-jeff served for his perjury conviction!

lilyjac on July 3, 2007 at 12:40 AM

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 12:08 AM

Ya the P Diddy voter registration drive was impressive too. Ha Vote or Die! It was estimated that a large majority of registered Democrats in the 18 to 25 age bracket stayed at home on election day in 04. You guys spent a ton of money on them too. Nancy and Harry consistantly harp on about the 06 election as a mandate. How do they put it “the American people have spoken”. Hee Hee The Conservative base showed their awesome effectivness in the 06 elections by protesting with a none vote and again last week in the crushing defeat of Kennedy’s bill. Now Greasy Joe Biden is calling for a duplicate White House phone blitz on this Libby comutation thing. Get back to me with your shut down of the phone system news. By the way hows the Biden/Obama condom legislation bill comming along? Ha

sonnyspats1 on July 3, 2007 at 12:40 AM

I’m suspicious that this is for a variety of reasons a prearranged deal between Libby and Bush.

It looked like Libby was going to twist in the wind, he threatened the release of information that would damage both Bush and Cheney and a deal was struck.

Other than that KP is absolutely right this has been a huge waste of Gov. time and money.

I just wonder why a prosecution occurred in the first place when the President legally declassified the case and let the case go ahead anyway.

Speakup on July 3, 2007 at 1:11 AM

I just wonder why a prosecution occurred in the first place when the President legally declassified the case and let the case ‘against Libby’ go ahead anyway.

Speakup on July 3, 2007 at 1:13 AM

Snobby little elitists. You know what’s best for America, even if America hates your guts. Yup.

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 12:08 AM

LOL! Aww, what’s a matter, the “most ethical Congress ever” not living up to all your dreams? Gee, with brilliant leaders like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi it’s really hard to figure out how that happened.

WisCon on July 3, 2007 at 1:14 AM

Good to know that the portion of the population that disagreed with Bush the most were young voters.

60% of America disagreeing with conservatives? No, it couldn’t be!

If I didn’t know any better, I’d have thought you guys were complete, laughable hypocrites who called for Clinton’s impeachment for perjury but then tried to justify one of your own ilk doing the same thing, and the fact that you would do so against the will of 60% of the population – why, it just make you, elitists.

Snobby little elitists. You know what’s best for America, even if America hates your guts. Yup.

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 12:08 AM

I see you’re the latest troll to join HotAir and have avoided getting in the mud with you because it’s been a waste of time with the others… but I’ve got to take this one.

The trouble here is, for starters (setting aside Wilson’s blatant lies), Fitzgerald knew that the “leaker” (again there wasn’t a “leak” really, because she wasn’t covert which is why there was never an indictment for a “leak”) was the Bush critic Richard Armitage. This is not in dispute. Plame wasn’t covert nor was her identity secret, which is why it was casually talked about from reporters to White House and State Dept. staff and visa versa. At any rate, the “investigation” should have ended (or never really began) when the Armitage revelation came to light.

But the investigation did go on. If it hadn’t, the Dems would have been screaming even louder, and after all the misinformation (which again, continues today when the media constantly says Libby was convicted in the “CIA leak case”, a flat out lie). Fitzgerald had to carry on, or the venom would have turned in his direction. For the same reason he had to indict on something.

So what was Libby charged and convicted of? Forgetting exactly when he first heard Plames name and when her name was mentioned in various conversations with reporters. If you recall, Russert had the EXACT same memory problem and his story changed greatly. These are movers and shakers who have dozens of conversations with reporters and officials daily and when they are of such an unimportant nature, it’s not uncommon to forget exactly how an event went down, many months after the fact. I can’t remember which shirt I wore or what I ate 3 days ago, much less exactly how a conversation went down last year. Who among us hasn’t talked to someone and been like “remember when I told you…. ” and the other party said, “no, I think I told you about that”.

So Libby was charged and convicted of having a poor (but probably average) memory of something extremely stupid and unimportant (again, the unimportance is all the more evident in the fact that there were no “leak” charges).

Clinton clearly lied, and there is no debate about that, period.

Oh, and let’s not even get in to the fact that the demonstrably lying Joe Wilson needed to be debunked. We had (and still have) 13 years of Democrats making the WMD case, leading right up to the war being ignored by the media, a country that began turning against the war 6 months in when all the Dems realized that the political season would be a good’n if they could play the “Bush lied us in to war” lie, knowing they wouldn’t be busted by the media for that BS. And Wilson, with his blatant lies in the NY Times (among other places) lended credibility as some kind of “expert”. (By the way, Saddam did “seek” the goods from Niger. The former PM of that country says so, and the Brits stand by the intel, and the claim had nothing to do with the “forged documents” you clowns crow about. Wilson’s spin that Saddam didn’t “buy” it was irrelevant, but portrayed as proof of a Bush lie.) The point is, it was completely proper to discredit Wilson, in part by explaining Plame’s shenanigans to the media, which is why the evil genius Rove didn’t do it more secretively. Come on, you don’t think he’d have done it smarter to cover their behinds?

Now head on back to DU or HuffPo or Dkos where your dishonest nonsense is not only tolerated but encouraged. (and please don’t make me smack you with the Clinton pardon list)

RightWinged on July 3, 2007 at 1:29 AM

Self-identification:
36-38% Democrat
29-32% Republican
29-31% Independent

The majority are by NO means independent. This is a partisan country. In the last election Democrats held a hefty 6-8% advantage over Republicans in self-identification. It’s about 4-6 now.

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 12:13 AM

Did you factor the dead vote into that edge that the Dems have? Just askin’.

Bad Candy on July 3, 2007 at 1:31 AM

Forgetting exactly when he first heard Plames name and when her name was mentioned in various conversations with reporters

You have no proof that he “forgot”. Your entire post is wishful thinking. A jury of his peers decided that he flat out lied, not that he “forgot”. And it wasn’t some “unimportant” event. The White House sent him to leak the name to discredit Wilson, and hence it was a big deal for him at the time. Hence, he would have remembered it quite easily.

the Bush critic Richard Armitage

Only on a far-right blog like Hot Air could a former member of the Bush Administration and a conservative Republican be brushed aside and relegated to the nondescript status of a “Bush critic”.

But hey, what do I care? Like Ron Paul said, your base shrank in the last election. All you partisan fools in the blogosphere accomplish is by shrinking it more, especially among Latinos after the immigration debate. You’ll be lucky if you manage even 25% of the Latino vote in the next election.

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 1:45 AM

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 12:08 AM

Getting a little angry?
And, by the way, I love how there is this conflation of Clinton and Libby. Yes, they were charged with the same crime but the cases and contexts were completely different.

Clinton didn’t mis-rememebr getting a BJ.
It is entirely plausible that, some 2 years after the original incident, Libby did not remember what it was he said to idiots like Tim “Christmas Morning” Russert.

So, yeah, they both made false statements in front of a grand jury, but Clinton did it with full malice of intent to lie, while Libby mis-remembered converastions held years ago. What did Clinton end up losing? His liscense to practice law in Arknsas. What do the libs want Libby to lose? His freedom for 30 months.
That seems a little out of whack, doesn’t it?

VolMagic on July 3, 2007 at 1:47 AM

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 1:45 AM

Yikes! Armitage was a left-over from the state department appointed during the Clinton administration.

Do you know anything?

VolMagic on July 3, 2007 at 1:49 AM

Hillary Clinton actually had the stones to come out and say something about this? Are you kidding me? WOW! These people have no shame!

sabbott on July 3, 2007 at 1:54 AM

Clinton probably remembered the BJ, he just didn’t know what the meaning of is is… Then BJ became the Pardoner In Chief prior to leaving office…

sabbott on July 3, 2007 at 1:56 AM

Typical of this man, he has become gutless. Didn’t have the balls to offend the left and pardon him, didn’t have the loyalty for the right to pardon him….

Even worse is the fact he basically continues to show no loyalty to those who show loyalty to him (Libby) or this nation (BP Agents)

Tim Burton on July 3, 2007 at 2:29 AM

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 1:45 AM.You’ll be lucky if you manage even 25% of the Latino vote in the next election…………………..I can’t decide what impressed me more in the 04 Presidential P Diddy with ‘vote or die’ mabey it was M-TV ‘rock the vote’. Both efforts proved futile. Besides we’re going after the straight male caucasain vote.

sonnyspats1 on July 3, 2007 at 2:40 AM

A jury of his peers decided that he flat out lied, not that he “forgot”.

And the same jury said they were cool with a pardon – or that they didn’t want to see him go jail — so what’s your beef?

Topsecretk9 on July 3, 2007 at 2:48 AM

This may have been done by Pres. Bush to appease the right but at least Mr. Libby got the benefit of that. I’m so glad he doesn’t have to go to jail.

Rose on July 3, 2007 at 2:48 AM

But hey, what do I care?

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 1:45 AM

You mean about the facts? Obviously not much.

But since you’ve admitted you don’t care, how about you just go the fuck away.

infidel4life on July 3, 2007 at 2:56 AM

President Bush should have taken away Libby’s citizenship and declared him an illegal alien, then Senator Kennedy and his cronies would have begged amnesty for him.

coldshot on July 3, 2007 at 3:04 AM

You have no proof that he “forgot”. Your entire post is wishful thinking. A jury of his peers decided that he flat out lied, not that he “forgot”. And it wasn’t some “unimportant” event. The White House sent him to leak the name to discredit Wilson, and hence it was a big deal for him at the time. Hence, he would have remembered it quite easily.

the Bush critic Richard Armitage

Only on a far-right blog like Hot Air could a former member of the Bush Administration and a conservative Republican be brushed aside and relegated to the nondescript status of a “Bush critic”.

But hey, what do I care? Like Ron Paul said, your base shrank in the last election. All you partisan fools in the blogosphere accomplish is by shrinking it more, especially among Latinos after the immigration debate. You’ll be lucky if you manage even 25% of the Latino vote in the next election.

Fragility on July 3, 2007 at 1:45 AM

I expected about as much from you Fragility… you ignore a lengthy post that covers all escapes, and cherry pick things to respond to, as if they haven’t been thoroughly handled already.

By the way, guy, a jury also found O.J. innocent.

I’m hesitant to even get back in to this, because I covered the entire issue in that one lengthy post before. For you to come back with a bunch of delusional BS that Libby was sent to “leak” Plame’s name (again, why wasn’t he charged with that then genius?), etc. is rather disturbing. You’re like our other liberal friends around here. It’s mind boggling how truly dishonest or insane you people are.

Anyway, don’t think your liberal tactic of completely ignoring the main point, went unnoticed. Yeah, I’m talking about how you completely forgot to address the fact that the investigation shouldn’t have gone forward… First of all, because Plame wasn’t covered under the law they were seeking to bust someone for breaking, and second of all, Armitage leaked the unleakable, everyone knew it, so there was no need to proceed.

By the way, I noticed you ignored my point about how stupid it would be to expect someone to remember such an idiotic passing conversation out of hundreds of others, months after the fact. You also ignored Russert having the same memory problem, yet not being indicted on the same charges.

I just wanted to lay out for you that anyone with half a brain sees through you, as you’re just a cliche liberal. You people are beyond dishonest and because you’re always wrong, you can’t even argue points… instead you resort to Olbermannesque talking points that are beyond ridiculous and played out.

I know your Freshman political science class got you thinking you have a clue about… anything… but ya don’t… And no amount of MSNBS or Dkos talking points will make you sound any smarter. Maybe after the beatings you take around here you’ll feel better if you go hang out at a Kucinich rally, because you’re just so edgy and unmainstream. Or better yet, an Obama rally! (Yeah, go with Obama, all the other cool kids your age are voting for him because… I don’t know if you heard… HE’S BLACK! Wahoo!)

RightWinged on July 3, 2007 at 3:18 AM

Hey Wilson, go f*ck yourself. After you sent your henchmen Larry Johnson and Jason Leopold after me, you can seriously go f*ck yourself, you lying POS.

So when are we going to get an investigation into Valerie Plame’s fairy tales, err I mean, testimony to various bodies of Congress?

Larry Johnson threatened to go after me through friends in Interpol and the EU, for my writings about this case. Gee, I wonder why.

This whole case has been a fraud from the start, hatched at the Democratic Senate meetings in early May 2003.

Seixon on July 3, 2007 at 4:36 AM

Everyone who helped Pres Bush get elected should take a moment to pat themselves on the back and enjoy this.

Because of your efforts, justice was done. Mr. Libby was tried for political reasons, and this is exactly why the President has this constitutional power. Great job, and let this motivate all of us in 2008!

Jason on July 3, 2007 at 5:46 AM

The fury on the Left reminds me of an old Samsonite commercial with a gorilla throwing a suitcase around his cage. Calls for impeachment, lefty bloggers posting they’re so angry they’re shaking, and the nonsense from Rosie and other talking (empty) heads is a beautiful thing. As Pinhead said in Hellraiser II, “Ah, the sweet suffering.”

Libby doesn’t have a full pardon, but commutation might well be perfect in the long run. If his appeals are successful, his record will be fully clean by way of the courts; a pardon at this stage would leave Libby forever tainted because the conviction will have stood. Having it overturned would be far better. In the meantime, he’s out of jail while the appeals are heard. If the appeals fail, Bush still has the Constitutional authority to pardon.

Seems our president managed to turn a no-win situation into one where the victim–’Scooter’ Libby–can’t lose.

Liam on July 3, 2007 at 6:16 AM

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