“Abysmal”: $11.2 million for McCain in 2Q; amnesty had “significant effect”

posted at 2:59 pm on July 2, 2007 by Allahpundit

I don’t want to break any hearts here but suddenly the chances that we might live to see Attorney General Lindsey Graham seem very bleak indeed.

I want an iPhone but I’ll take this.

Republican John McCain reorganized his campaign Monday, cutting staff in every department as he raised just $11.2 million in the last three months and reported an abysmal $2 million cash on hand for his presidential bid…

Some 50 staffers or more are being let go, and senior aides will be subject to pay cuts as the Arizona senator bows to six months of subpar fundraising, according to officials with knowledge of the details of the shake up.

They had hoped to raise $100 million for the year, says his campaign manager … who’ll now, according to Byron York, be working without pay. Your quote of the day comes from McCain advisor John Weaver commenting on the impact of the amnesty bill: “We do know that it had a significant effect in this last quarter. We’re very proud of John taking a leadership role in this … but we wouldn’t be straight with you if we told you that it didn’t have an impact. Having said that, that debate is now over … but it did have an impact.”

Steyn’s been hearing from “ostensibly well-informed” readers that McCain will drop out within the next few days. Obviously untrue or else he wouldn’t have bothered to reduce his staff, but it does give us our exit question: When? The McCain Campaign Death Poll is now open for business.

Update: Patrick Ruffini says it’s time for John boy to say good night: “Friends, this campaign is officially over. There is no way we are going to nominate someone who has to take public funding to take on Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama ($90M COH between them).” And David Freddoso adds the final delicious indignity:

McCain’s futures contract has plummeted in just one week from around $12 to below $6 at InTrade.com. The contract, which can be redeemed for $100 if McCain gets the nomination (and is worthless if he does not), once sold for nearly $60. By this measure, he trails Giuliani and Thompson, who trade above $33, and Romney at $20. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas is now close behind McCain at $3.


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the chances that we might live to see Attorney General Lindsey Graham seem very bleak indeed.

Not to mention the odds we’ll even see Senator Lindsey O. Graham much longer.

TheBigOldDog on July 2, 2007 at 3:02 PM

He’ll limp through this month hoping for a miracle but he won’t make it to Labor Day. Once Fred jumps in all the media oxygen will disappear and the only way McCain will make any news is by dropping out. He had his chance in 2000. That was then, this is now. Good night John.

Thomas the Wraith on July 2, 2007 at 3:05 PM

So it turns out pissing off the base of a party when you are running for that party’s presidential nomination is a bad thing.

Who knew?

Drew on July 2, 2007 at 3:06 PM

How completely the MSM has turned on McCain, it’s stunning.

McCain beat Edwards by $2.2 million.

Where are the reports of malaise, staff reductions and possible withdrawal pointed at the Edwards camp?

Instead, it’s talk of how “energized” his supporters are and the “flood” of last minute cash after they spliced tape out of context to hit Ann Coulter.

Anil Petra on July 2, 2007 at 3:06 PM

Where are the reports of malaise, staff reductions and possible withdrawal pointed at the Edwards camp?

Edwards wasn’t expected to be the frontrunner, though.

Allahpundit on July 2, 2007 at 3:07 PM

When?

The obvious answer is “When Fred announces”.

Editor on July 2, 2007 at 3:09 PM

The McCain Campaign Death Poll is now open for business.

Dean Barnett was waaayy ahead of you.

Physics Geek on July 2, 2007 at 3:09 PM

I guess all those illegals that McVain’s been courting weren’t quite ready to start supporting Republicans yet.

The (other) good news is, Fred may be able to cherry-pick some worthwhile staffers out of the 50 that St. John just fired.

ReubenJCogburn on July 2, 2007 at 3:10 PM

I have a tune running in my head “See you in September” or is it “Autumn Leaves”.

CommentGuy on July 2, 2007 at 3:11 PM

Having said that, that debate is now over … but it did have an impact.”

No Mr. Weaver, the days of short attention spans and forgetful memories are OVER thanks to the internet. This is not over and will never be over until we secure the border. If you think Q2 was bad get ready for Q3. Q2 at least had some fund raising before Shamnesty came out. We will never forget, we will never forgive. McCain tried to destroy the America I know and love. I thought that McCain-feingold was a exception but the immigration bill shows it was the rule. Bye, bye McCain.

unseen on July 2, 2007 at 3:12 PM

Where are the reports of malaise, staff reductions and possible withdrawal pointed at the Edwards camp?

Edwards hasn’t laid off any staff or cut their pay. He can still get free media via the misses attacking hated figures on the right. McCain only gets bad news because he only makes bad news. The immigration debacle was the final nail but he ran a pretty craptacular campaign even before that. In 8 years he’s gone from Straight Talk to the Listen to What My Consultants Have Told Me to Say. An object lesson for future campaigns.

Thomas the Wraith on July 2, 2007 at 3:17 PM

They had hoped to raise $100 million for the year, says his campaign manager … who’ll now, according to Byron York, be working without pay.

At least he’s not boinking his wife, a la Gavin Newsome.

“We do know that it had a significant effect in this last quarter. We’re very proud of John taking a leadership role in this … but we wouldn’t be straight with you if we told you that it didn’t have an impact. Having said that, that debate is now over … but it did have an impact.”

You’ll never be straight with us until you admit that you were wrong in going against the will of the people and apologize.

Edwards wasn’t expected to be the frontrunner, though.

And, McCain was (by anyone other than RWS)?

Blake on July 2, 2007 at 3:20 PM

Having said that, that debate is now over …

Yep. And so is your hope of ever being President.

BacaDog on July 2, 2007 at 3:22 PM

…our exit question: When? The McCain Campaign Death Poll is now open for business.

Put me down for mid-August. That gives him 45 days to figure out that that debate is NOT now over, and see the fundraising results. I think he’ll be brokeback by then.

Jaibones on July 2, 2007 at 3:24 PM

our exit question: When? The McCain Campaign Death Poll is now open for business.

McCain as well as being stupid is stubborn like Bush. He will hold on until the bitter end. He will go done in flames in Iowa, NH and after SC when he is reduced to ashes he will limp into the Sunset and throw his limited support behind thomson in the hope that Fred will give him some type of position after he is kicked out of the Senate.

unseen on July 2, 2007 at 3:28 PM

Couldn’t happen to a better POS on the GOP side.

So where are those liberal donations? I guess they really didn’t like you after all, John…. (except when they were using your to violate the First Amendment, Mr. Manchurian Politician.)

Tim Burton on July 2, 2007 at 3:28 PM

*fade in to John McCain sitting in a dark room with his head in his hands muttering “But everyone wants amnesty”*

fin

natesnake on July 2, 2007 at 3:29 PM

McCain’s stock at InTrade.com has dropped to 4.0 today and that puts him .8 above Ron Paul. It’s time to flush the Johns (McCain & Edwards).

volsense on July 2, 2007 at 3:30 PM

A couple of flat tires on the Doubletalk Express.

Maybe he can pick a fight with Ann Coulter to help boost the coffers.

JammieWearingFool on July 2, 2007 at 3:35 PM

Edwards wasn’t expected to be the frontrunner, though.

Allahpundit on July 2, 2007 at 3:07 PM

OK from a media viewpoint, but from a political view — he just raised $9 million in the same period that the other two raised $60 million. He doesn’t show up in the polls. He needs to take his Brokeback Butt and go home. And his wife needs to shut up; she’s a fool.

Jaibones on July 2, 2007 at 3:39 PM

Would the last one out of the office please turn out the lights!

CharlestonCritic on July 2, 2007 at 3:39 PM

JammieWearingFool on July 2, 2007 at 3:35 PM

LOL. The spin has finally stopped thanks to the internet and blogs. Look at Switchback. His spin died. look at Graham his spin died. Now McCain’s spin is dead. Long live the Spin.

unseen on July 2, 2007 at 3:39 PM

It’s nice that this amnesty thing came along. It helped to thin the herd.

natesnake on July 2, 2007 at 3:50 PM

Heh – intrade JUST created a new contract listing… Drop outs. The only one with a figure is… McCain, asking $45.

Editor on July 2, 2007 at 3:52 PM

What a surprise! You would have thought the money would be rolling in after all those “nice” things McCain said about those of us who disagreed with his proposed citizenship giveaway! McCain’s mini-me (aka Lindsey Graham) went along for the ride and I suspect will have his rear end scorched for all the nasty things he has said.

Of course, some of us stopped supporting McCain a long time ago. After he gave away citizen’s first amendment rights in a brokered deal with the far left in the name of campaign finance reform that has had absolutely no positive effect in the way elections are run. After he spent the first four years of the Bush administration being an obstructor. After he all put curled up in John Kerry’s lap and purred during Campaign 06. McCain is one of those politicians who should have bowed out of public life while he was still respected.

highhopes on July 2, 2007 at 3:53 PM

And, McCain was (by anyone other than RWS)?

Blake on July 2, 2007 at 3:20 PM

Aww, don’t pick on RWS. Where has she been, anyway?

Bad Candy on July 2, 2007 at 3:58 PM

Aww, don’t pick on RWS. Where has she been, anyway?

Bad Candy on July 2, 2007 at 3:58 PM

Drowning her sorrows in mint juleps?

Last time I saw her post on AoS even she was showing some disillusionment with McCain, which completely ruined my opportunity to take pleasure in the “I told you so” moment that I’d been anticipating for so long.

Hollowpoint on July 2, 2007 at 4:08 PM

Who is giving him the 11.2 million?

$11.20 is more than he is worth.

Valiant on July 2, 2007 at 4:08 PM

Oddschecker:

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/us-presidential-election-2008/to-be-elected-president

Has odds from multiple books, but average ranking of likely winner is:

Hillary
Obama
Fred!
Rudy
Mitt
McCainesty

peski on July 2, 2007 at 4:10 PM

Sorry, should have been:

Hillary
Obama
Fred!
Rudy
Goracle
Mitt
Silky
McCainesty

peski on July 2, 2007 at 4:11 PM

“the chances that we might live to see Attorney General Lindsey Graham seem very bleak indeed.”

Doesn’t one need to have a basic underatanding for enforcing the rule of law to be in this position? Judging by Ms. Lindsay’s pushing of the amnesty bill it’s apparent he does not.

The sooner Comrade McCain’s campaign is closed down the better. I was surprised I got a call to contribute last week because I’ve asked to be taken off his list. I didn’t get mad, but I did offer to pledge $100 if he would drop out. I was promptly hung up on.

John McCain, the Ho Chi Minh Candidate. Coming to theaters when they get enough money to produce it.

Brass Pair on July 2, 2007 at 4:20 PM

Rep. Ron Paul of Texas is now close behind McCain at $3.

I’ve heard that Ron’s gonna have more cash on hand than McCain.

Muahahahahahhaa

libertytexan on July 2, 2007 at 4:23 PM

Not to mention the odds we’ll even see Senator Lindsey O. Graham much longer.

TheBigOldDog on July 2, 2007 at 3:02 PM

We’ll have to see him 6 more years if a primary challenger doesn’t emerge – and fast! I don’t think the dems are even going to run somebody against him.

PRCalDude on July 2, 2007 at 4:26 PM

Seems to me like it’s time for a little less gloating at Sen. McCain’s pain and a little more sorrow that a once-great man went over to the dark side. He wouldn’t be a good President and he’s not even a very good Senator, but he is still a war hero who deserves this nation’s gratitude and respect. He’s the only one in the race with balls enough to fly combat missions over enemy territory.

bdfaith on July 2, 2007 at 4:28 PM

I’ve heard that Ron’s gonna have more cash on hand than McCain.

Muahahahahahhaa

libertytexan on July 2, 2007 at 4:23 PM

No, Ron Paul only accepts donations in gold, since our monetary system is illegitimate thanks to a vast Jooo conspiracy.

Hollowpoint on July 2, 2007 at 4:30 PM

… but we wouldn’t be straight with you if we told you that it didn’t have an impact. Having said that, that debate is now over … but it did have an impact.”

It’s over and because of his stance, no opponent of the POS bill will trust McCain anywhere near the WH. I’m surprised Arizonans haven’t started a recall campaign on McCain.

Dusty on July 2, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Brass Pair, you need to pull your head out so your brain can get a little fresh air. How many combat missions did you fly over Nam? How many years did you spend as a POW, after being offered your freedom for propaganda reasons and turning it down? John McCain has his faults but your comment is way out of line.

bdfaith on July 2, 2007 at 4:34 PM

FYI… if you register for Rush’s daily newsletter you can be entered in a drawing for an IPhone, just saying.

ctmom on July 2, 2007 at 4:35 PM

bdfaith on July 2, 2007 at 4:28 PM

Sorry bdfaith, but after attempting to stab me in the back to get a few votes from those that come from South of the border, I don’t care what he did 40 years ago. That was then and this is now.

Sic transit gloria.

Swinehound on July 2, 2007 at 4:35 PM

Oops, let’s try again…


bdfaith on July 2, 2007 at 4:28 PM

Sorry bdfaith, but after attempting to stab me in the back to get a few votes from those that come from South of the border, I don’t care what he did 40 years ago. That was then and this is now.

Sic transit gloria.

Swinehound on July 2, 2007 at 4:37 PM

Correcting myself before someone else has a chance to: Ducan Hunter also served honorably in Viet Nam and would not doubt have flown back seat for McCain if he’d been asked.

bdfaith on July 2, 2007 at 4:38 PM

Swinehound, I didn’t say you should vote for him, I said he deserves a damned site more respect than he’s been getting on this site. He earned it and it’s his for life.

Bill Faith
USAF 1970-1974, RVN 1971-1972
Proud Veteran-American

bdfaith on July 2, 2007 at 4:42 PM

This is great news. As for the campaign death poll, I’m calling by end of July.

McCain’s support would probably largely move to Giuliani, while Ron Paul may get some. Incidentally, I recall seeing a poll somewhere where Tancredo was just 1% behind McCain – has his poll numbers grown?

In the meantime, I’d like to see a new senate primary challenge to surface – preferably to McCain, but if not, Jon Kyl will do as well. Incidentally, which of them will be up for re-election in 2008?

infidelpride on July 2, 2007 at 4:43 PM

McCain is a solid conservative on practically every issue. This phobia against him has spun out of control.

I support him because I think he’s right on all the issues, and most of all, he’ll lead and fight in the war on radical Islam.

Baphomet on July 2, 2007 at 4:49 PM

bdfaith

If Barbara Lee, who voted against Operation Enduring Freedom (in Afghanistan) can be described as al Qaeda’s congresswoman, McCain can be described as al-Qaeda’s senator – for his insistence that Gitmo detainees not be ‘tortured’, that al Qaeda thugs be covered under the Geneva conventions and be dealt with by US courts instead of military tribunals, et al.

The above is reason enough to pee in his general direction, and I’m not even factoring in amnesty or CFR (Campaign Finance Reform), where there can be honest disagreements. But it’s one thing to respect disagreements on how to best protect our country and promote an open marketplace of ideas. However, McCain’s stance on enemy combatants is a policy that al Qaeda couldn’t improve on if they had their own people in the Senate. For this reason, regardless of what he did in the Hanoi Hilton, what he’s done recently richly earns him the label of a ‘traitor’, and he ought to be running 11th in the field of 10 candidates.

infidelpride on July 2, 2007 at 4:52 PM

bdfaith on July 2, 2007 at 4:42 PM

Mr. Faith, He has my respect for his military service as do you. I myself am also a proud veteran. That is exactly my point about John McCain. He seems to have forgotten why he refused to satisfy the enemies’ desires so many years ago. He betrayed America with his support for the SHAMnesty Bill, and trying to shove it down my throat to gain a few Latino and liberal votes has lost him my respect as a Senator.

Swinehound on July 2, 2007 at 4:55 PM

but he is still a war hero who deserves this nation’s gratitude and respect

No sir, when that person tries to sell my country down the river it matters not his past, it matters his future.

Benedict Arnold is best known for his betrayal of the Revolutionary forces by plotting to hand the American fort at West Point, NY to the British during the American Revolution – to the degree that the term “a Benedict Arnold” in American English is synonymous with “traitor.” The measure of Arnold’s action was made all the more significant by the fact that he was considered by many to be the best general and most accomplished leader in the Colonial Army. In fact, without Arnold’s contribution to the American cause, the American Revolution might well have been lost.

Should we have honored Arnold because of his past service?
http://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Benedict_Arnold

unseen on July 2, 2007 at 4:56 PM

infidelpride

What a retarded thing to say. How dare you compare a war hero making a sound argument about torture – which he himself endured- with the rantings of leftist lunatics and, even worse, Al-Qaeda?

That is exactly the kind of moronic hyperbole one would expect from the left.

I completely agree with Mr. Bill Faith. McCain is a hero and a great American, whether you agree with him politically or not. All the gloating in this thread at his disgrace speaks worse of the people who do it than it does of McCain. At the end of the day, if this does implode, he can go back to his life and know he served his country, both in the military and in public office, and he was honest to people, agree or not with him. You, on the other hand, will only have your “Shamnesty” slogans and your misconceptions to go back to.

Baphomet on July 2, 2007 at 4:57 PM

bdfaith on July 2, 2007 at 4:42 PM

True, if Ted Kennedy had that kind of war record, he should garner the same respect.

However, they are public officials and not above reproach. McCain would be better served running in the Democrat primaries.

Valiant on July 2, 2007 at 4:58 PM

McCain is a solid conservative on practically every issue. This phobia against him has spun out of control.

It is not a phobia it is a hate. I am not scared of McCain I loath him for his attempt to sell America to the CEO’s and special interest.

unseen on July 2, 2007 at 4:59 PM

McCain is a hero and a great Americanglobalist.

Baphomet on July 2, 2007 at 4:57 PM

Made the statement more truthful.

unseen on July 2, 2007 at 5:02 PM

He’ll be out before I return from Hawaii. Now, what do I win?

JWS on July 2, 2007 at 5:02 PM

There must be 11 really stupid millionaires out there.

profitsbeard on July 2, 2007 at 5:05 PM

infidelpride on July 2, 2007 at 4:43 PM

Mccain is up in 2008.

Think McCain will hold on as long as he can. These people have a huge ego. He still thinks he was right and all of us are wrong. He still hopes that we poor suckers will lighten up sometime and still support him. He is living in a world of his own.

Not trying to put him down but I think that is how he thinks.

SIJ6141 on July 2, 2007 at 5:07 PM

Baphomet

If Ayman al Zawahiri, or Osama himself, was a member of the Senate and wanted to water down policies aimed at hunting the Jihadis, what could they do differently from McCain in terms of
- Torture/interrogation techniques
- Military tribunals
- Geneva Convention coverage of unlawful combatants

Granted, members of the Dems – like Patrick Leahy – have done enough damage of their own, like leaking the news of secret prisons in Eastern Europe, but while that’s disgraceful enough coming from Dems, you certainly don’t expect that from GOP members.

Also, by your logic, Kerry should have been elected over Bush on the basis of his Vietnam service.

infidelpride on July 2, 2007 at 5:21 PM

Michelle and Laura Ingram should feel really bad about this…NOT! Funny how us rube conservatives out here in middle America tend to not contribute to Republicans who spend time cutting deals with Ted Kennedy! Too bad about Miss Lindsay! Bet she has her panties in a bunch! Damn “loud people” and all…

sabbott on July 2, 2007 at 5:34 PM

“the chances that we might live to see Attorney General Lindsey Graham seem very bleak indeed.”

Doesn’t one need to have a basic understanding for enforcing the rule of law to be in this position?

Brass Pair on July 2, 2007 at 4:20 PM

Apparently not–Alberto “Classified leaks? What classified leaks?” Gonzales doesn’t seem to have any trouble getting through the day. Oh, you mean to be a good Attorney-General. Well, obviously that’s different.

ReubenJCogburn on July 2, 2007 at 5:38 PM

“John McCain has his faults but your comment is way out of line.

bdfaith on July 2, 2007 at 4:34 PM”

I think not. First, I have the misfortune of living in his district, and have since he ran for the house in ’82, so I have a good idea of where his head is at. Second, where Vietnam is concerned, there are two significant, IMHO, issues that he is consistantly on the wrong side of – pushing Vietnam for the return of POWs still in existance and normalizing relations with that country. John LeBoutillier has written several pieces on McCain and how he attacks and demeans the families of POWs and the he bolsters the Pentagon’s strategy of debunking POW sightings. There are also articles about how he and Senator Kerry, who served in Vietnam by the way, have both supported the move to normalize relations with Vietnam and removing trade restrictions.

Now does this sound like the actions one would expect from a “POW war hero?” I don’t believe so, and neither does anyone I know. My dad was a grunt in Korea and to this day he still thinks about the ones taken prisoner there, but I don’t see the same from McCain. Apparently he has turned his back on his brothers in favor of political ambition.

Sure reminds me of a movie…

Brass Pair on July 2, 2007 at 5:40 PM

Just shows you that the requirements for Pres. does not include several years in a concentration camp, a “I’ll cross the aisle” senator, a senator who picks fights with his base, a senator who does not want to protect the border, a senator that chooses a Kennedy over a conservative, and an “old boy you owe it to me” mentality.

However, I do honor his service and his dedication to the servicemen.

right2bright on July 2, 2007 at 5:44 PM

nah nah nah nah
nah nah nah nah
heeeeeeeey good bye

nah nah nah nah
nah nah nah nah
heeeeeeey good bye

Hey Johny where is my 50$ a hour job picking cabage? I am still waiting , what is it because i’m an american citizen or is that job reserved for Harry Reid buddy Tommy .

Mojack420 on July 2, 2007 at 5:50 PM

Doesn’t one need to have a basic understanding for enforcing the rule of law to be in this position?

Brass Pair on July 2, 2007 at 4:20 PM
Apparently not–Alberto “Classified leaks? What classified leaks?” Gonzales doesn’t seem to have any trouble getting through the day. Oh, you mean to be a good Attorney-General. Well, obviously that’s different.

ReubenJCogburn on July 2, 2007 at 5:38 PM

My bad.

Brass Pair on July 2, 2007 at 5:53 PM

McCain is a solid conservative on practically every issue.

Baphomet on July 2, 2007 at 4:49 PM

Well, except on gun control.
And on immigration.
And on border security.
And on judicial nominations.
And the First Amendment.
And on tax cuts.
And on detained terrorists.

But yeah, other than those minor issues that conservatives aren’t terribly concerned about, he’s pretty conservative.

Hollowpoint on July 2, 2007 at 6:11 PM

Cool down everyone. We can all agree that McCain was a war hero and on many issues, is a solid Conservative. We can also all agree that McCain jumped the shark with McCain Feingold, and McCain Kennedy confirmed it. (Not two folks to get into bed with when running for Conservative support).

He’s not going to get the nod. The end.

Martin on July 2, 2007 at 6:24 PM

Of course, his endorsement will still matter too.

If only because the MSM will make it so.

Martin on July 2, 2007 at 6:25 PM

John McCain is no hero. He WAS a serviceman many years ago who suffered torture. That experience no doubt effected his mind. Today, McCain tried to sell out his country, and for that, no time in the Hanoi Hilton can excuse. But it can help explain it.

jihadwatcher on July 2, 2007 at 6:27 PM

mccain should throw in the towel because the only backers he has are from his district.

apujac on July 2, 2007 at 6:54 PM

McCain needs to hang on for another month. Surely fred? will announce by then, step on his tongue and crash and burn. John will probably get some of the groupies and then he can make his decision.

csdeven on July 2, 2007 at 7:30 PM

Who’s still contributing?!!?!?

SouthernGent on July 2, 2007 at 7:37 PM

Although it’s usually said in a different context, John McCain nonetheless reminds me of the old adage, There’s no fool like an old fool.

The Gang of 14 … McCain-Feingold … McCain-Kennedy … flirting with Kerry-McCain.

I’m not sure which is more disturbing: that he’d stick his thumb in his own party’s eye as often as he did, or thinking that he’d be forgiven for it. But I knew he was in trouble a long time ago when my mother – a Yellow-Dog Democrat if there ever was one – said that she’d vote for him.

Spurius Ligustinus on July 2, 2007 at 7:50 PM

Edwards hasn’t laid off any staff or cut their pay.

Well yeah, but his campaign manager draws checks from by MSNBC.

O-bama, can you spare a dime?

Pablo on July 2, 2007 at 8:00 PM

McCain whines like a b*tch about an “abyssmal” quarterly take.

Breaks my heart.

Myabe he should get a clue.

Jack.

Jack Deth on July 2, 2007 at 8:01 PM

I’ve got it! A grassroots fundraising pitch!

If every undocumented American would donate just one dollar…

But could they make that pitch from the Straight talk Express?

Pablo on July 2, 2007 at 8:05 PM

McCain has ridden the whole POW thing long enough.

Thank you for your service, I’m sorry you suffered in a POW
camp for so many years, but you’d never have gotten this
far without it… and it’s all used up RINO boy.

SilverStar830 on July 2, 2007 at 8:26 PM

BDFAITH-

I just couldn’t let this comment pass without further observation:


He wouldn’t be a good President and he’s not even a very good Senator, but he is still a war hero who deserves this nation’s gratitude and respect. He’s the only one in the race with balls enough to fly combat missions over enemy territory.

I would suggest that McCain’s downfall is part of a much larger downfall of those who did good things for this nation but were corrupted by all the power, influence, and easy money. By most accounts, Jack Murtha was a decent supporter of the troops at one point in his life- before ABSCAM and geostrategic delusions of a chubby ex-Marine (intentional use of the term ex) who has been caught threatening other Congressmen if they don’t support the worthless pork he had earmarked for his district. John Glenn hero astronaut was one of the five Senators who got caught in the S&L scandal. And, of course, Vietnam’s first fighter ace and long-time friend to the military was Randy “Duke” Cunningham.

In short, we can honor John McCain’s noble service to the nation in the past but that doesn’t excuse his current views and actions. He isn’t the only war hero turned corrupted politician. Such an attitude demeans those serving in public office who served honorably in combat and still do in some other capacity.

highhopes on July 2, 2007 at 8:33 PM

He’s the only one in the race with balls enough to fly combat missions over enemy territory.

Duncan Hunter was jumping out of planes over enemy territory as an Airborne Ranger. No knock on McCain’s service, but it’s worthy of notice.

jihadwatcher,

John McCain is no hero.

Yes he is. He’s not presidential material, and he’s past his sell by date as a politician, but he’s earned respect, even if he’s now squandering it.

Pablo on July 2, 2007 at 8:57 PM

I think the picture of McCain with “Let ‘em in Lindsey” Grahamnesty will not be bringing in the support any time soon. I say the 1st of August is the big withdrawal.

DfDeportation on July 2, 2007 at 9:30 PM

Hmm Ron Paul at $3 yeah I get it.

sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 9:59 PM

I put McCains withdrawl on the day after Fred announces.

sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 10:01 PM

Yes he is. He’s not presidential material, and he’s past his sell by date as a politician, but he’s earned respect, even if he’s now squandering it.

Pablo on July 2, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Yes you can’t and shouldn’t take that away from McCain. He served his country way above and beyond. I think he was sincere in his attempt at bipartisanship but the Dems are so far left that any compromise is not acceptable to the base.

sonnyspats1 on July 2, 2007 at 10:04 PM

Yes he is. He’s not presidential material, and he’s past his sell by date as a politician, but he’s earned respect, even if he’s now squandering it.

Pablo on July 2, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Mi amigo, you are so wise. With permission, I’d like to request striking the last part. He’s not earning the right to stand for the most powerful seat but he should always be respected for his service to this country, both in the military and as a representative. Also, he helped to defeat one named John Kerry.

All that doesn’t diminish the blunders of late, but such are we human beings, imperfect. He’s still a good and flawed man. For his service I salute him, and always will.

Entelechy on July 2, 2007 at 10:51 PM

Maybe those 30 million illegal mexicans will each pitch in a couple pesos to keep McCain afloat…. NOT. 25 MILLION WOULD VOTE DEMOCRAT.

build the wall on July 2, 2007 at 10:54 PM

csdeven on July 2, 2007 at 7:30 PM

Just watched Die Hard 2. Fred was great. Why not elect him president for life?

unseen on July 2, 2007 at 11:09 PM

unseen on July 2, 2007 at 11:09 PM

We might as well. It’s seems he has already done so in his own mind. He can put his groupies in the cabinet.;-)

csdeven on July 2, 2007 at 11:16 PM

If every undocumented American would donate just one dollar…

This one’s priceless: McCain should have thought of this one – even if he doesn’t get their votes (assuming that in the GOP primaries, they won’t be voting illegally), he could at least get their cash.

infidelpride on July 2, 2007 at 11:57 PM

csdeven on July 2, 2007 at 11:16 PM

sure Bruce Willis as the Sec of Def. tom clancy as the head of the NSA/CIA/FBI and DHS.

Live free or die hard…greatest movie of 2007.

unseen on July 3, 2007 at 12:49 AM

Who’s still contributing?!!?!?

SouthernGent on July 2, 2007 at 7:37 PM

Probably “Tommy” and his Mexican friend.

WisCon on July 3, 2007 at 1:22 AM

I said he deserves a damned site more respect than he’s been getting on this site. He earned it and it’s his for life. – bdfaith

He earned respect for his war sacrifice. He diminished that respect by trying to erase the MIA-POW controversy while leading the caravan to open Vietnam to favored trade partner

He demolished an illusion that he had respect for the calloused hand part of America with his arrogant stand that Americans will not pick lettuce, not even for $50 an hour -

while all over the USA,

Americans lift cases of canned spaghetti and tuna fish in back breaking regularity at the biggest big chain store for $8.00 an hour, with most new hires part time 32 hours max per week and no benefits. The cashiers wear splints for carpal tunnel and the pallet jacks are dragged by folk working like mules

No, they ain’t picking lettuce even for $50 and they aint being invited to work on construction sites for $12 an hour anymore for some strange reason. They work inside Home Depot, not in the parking lot. Does that make them lazy?

I will not miss the guy. He overdosed on that good Senate food

entagor on July 3, 2007 at 4:13 AM

Heading to Chicago, John McCain said that “it would be nuts” and “ridiculous” for him to consider dropping out of the race despite closing out the second quarter with lackluster fundraising and trailing in “most polls.”

Self-prophetic?

captivated_dem on July 3, 2007 at 9:14 AM

I wonder if Tancredo and Hunter will have more on hand for this reporting period?

Primbs on July 3, 2007 at 9:16 AM

Hollowpoint

What you say is true, but those do not even come close to comparing to conservative issues such as:

Eliminating the welfare state
Infanticide
Foreign policy
Free trade
School choice
Israel
The environment

No candidate will ever satisfy a voter on 100% of the issues. I think McCain is right on all the main ones.

Baphomet on July 3, 2007 at 10:23 AM

Baphomet on July 3, 2007 at 10:23 AM

Eliminating the welfare state=Jsust try to pass a bill that would have iINCREASED the welfare state by upwards of 12 million
Infanticide=
Foreign policy
Free trade=Is only a elite GOP wish. History has shown that unrestrained free trade with poor countries hurts the USA WORKER and it hurts the poor country. It enriches the elites
School choice
Israel
The environment

No candidate will ever satisfy a voter on 100% of the issues. I think McCain is right on all the main ones.

that’s two pretty big negatives in my book

unseen on July 3, 2007 at 12:09 PM