Comments on: Video: Olby and Larry Johnson shrug at the “non-event in London” http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:15:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Blogger News Network » Unsuccessful British Terror Plot: Sign of Ineptitude or Spreading Plague? http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-535166 Blogger News Network » Unsuccessful British Terror Plot: Sign of Ineptitude or Spreading Plague? Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:09:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-535166 [...] Funny thing about that particular op-ed is that it was published two months before 9/11. Hel-lo-o! Does anybody think that fact ought to have tainted his credibility when it comes to assessing the terrorist threat? But Johnson is Olbermann’s idea of the dream guest. So, when asked by Olbermann what would have happened if one of the car bombs in Britain had gone off, he basically said that it wouldn’t have done much more than damage the interior of the car and maybe singed the nose hairs of any passersby. [...] [...] Funny thing about that particular op-ed is that it was published two months before 9/11. Hel-lo-o! Does anybody think that fact ought to have tainted his credibility when it comes to assessing the terrorist threat? But Johnson is Olbermann’s idea of the dream guest. So, when asked by Olbermann what would have happened if one of the car bombs in Britain had gone off, he basically said that it wouldn’t have done much more than damage the interior of the car and maybe singed the nose hairs of any passersby. [...]

]]> By: Olby: “Hey crazy Americans, Stop overreacting to terrorism”Infidels Are Cool » Blog Archive » Olby: “Hey crazy Americans, Stop overreacting to terrorism” http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-527883 Olby: “Hey crazy Americans, Stop overreacting to terrorism”Infidels Are Cool » Blog Archive » Olby: “Hey crazy Americans, Stop overreacting to terrorism” Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:21:38 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-527883 [...] via Hotair _uacct = "UA-1237831-1"; urchinTracker(); Posted in Islam revealed, War on Terror by Infidelesto [...] [...] via Hotair _uacct = “UA-1237831-1″; urchinTracker(); Posted in Islam revealed, War on Terror by Infidelesto [...]

]]> By: kparker http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-527136 kparker Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:52:00 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-527136 Umm, let's not get carried away here, folks. While it's absolutely correct to credit the perpetrators here with an attempted terrorist bombing, it still doesn't automatically follow that it was a <i>competent</i> attempt. That's where the Register's article is right. Where they go wrong is in minimizing the risk--<i>the intent and the patience are definitely there</i>. As we saw with WTC 1, Bojinka, and then WTC 2, they're more than willing to keep trying until something <i>does</i> work. So don't take the following as defending Larry Johnson, not at all. But too many folks here are going <em>waaay </em> off the deep end, among them: Freelancer, you don't know what you're talking about. Adding more fuel to an enclosed vehicle <i>without adding any more oxidizer</i> isn't going to make a bigger bang. In fact, the ATF's own estimates of a three-hundred yard range involve a car packed with 500 pounds of explosives (which <i>do</i> have their own self-contained oxidizer, that's why they're called "explosives" rather than "fuel".) eon, you do <i>nothing</i> to help convince fence-sitters to take this kind of event seriously when your argument consists of the brilliant syllogism, "There is such a thing as a fuel-air explosive, therefore this was an effective instance of one." And angryoldfatman, Sears auto mechanics are also smarter than you, since they know that gasoline doesn't in fact <i>explode</i> in internal combustion engines during normal operation. Please, please, please: stop giving the "Islam is just a religion of peace" folks something to point at and laugh... Umm, let’s not get carried away here, folks. While it’s absolutely correct to credit the perpetrators here with an attempted terrorist bombing, it still doesn’t automatically follow that it was a competent attempt. That’s where the Register’s article is right. Where they go wrong is in minimizing the risk–the intent and the patience are definitely there. As we saw with WTC 1, Bojinka, and then WTC 2, they’re more than willing to keep trying until something does work. So don’t take the following as defending Larry Johnson, not at all.

But too many folks here are going waaay off the deep end, among them:

Freelancer, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Adding more fuel to an enclosed vehicle without adding any more oxidizer isn’t going to make a bigger bang. In fact, the ATF’s own estimates of a three-hundred yard range involve a car packed with 500 pounds of explosives (which do have their own self-contained oxidizer, that’s why they’re called “explosives” rather than “fuel”.)

eon, you do nothing to help convince fence-sitters to take this kind of event seriously when your argument consists of the brilliant syllogism, “There is such a thing as a fuel-air explosive, therefore this was an effective instance of one.”

And angryoldfatman, Sears auto mechanics are also smarter than you, since they know that gasoline doesn’t in fact explode in internal combustion engines during normal operation.

Please, please, please: stop giving the “Islam is just a religion of peace” folks something to point at and laugh…

]]> By: Topsecretk9 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-526158 Topsecretk9 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 07:17:33 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-526158 If a car bomb or even a single dynamite strapped suicide jihad-er<em>or even a small Kazinski sized primitive device</em> went off and killed Larry Johnson the left nitwits would be peeing their pants that Buh didn't connect the <em>obvious</em> dots. They are this disingenuous and will gamble all the innocent lives in order to preserve their hate of republicans. If a car bomb or even a single dynamite strapped suicide jihad-eror even a small Kazinski sized primitive device went off and killed Larry Johnson the left nitwits would be peeing their pants that Buh didn’t connect the obvious dots. They are this disingenuous and will gamble all the innocent lives in order to preserve their hate of republicans.

]]> By: oakpack http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-525091 oakpack Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:25:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-525091 Holy cow! One hundred four comments. That beats Olby's msnbc viewership. Holy cow! One hundred four comments. That beats Olby’s msnbc viewership.

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Glasgow bombing: Photo of the day year; Update: Links between three attacks becoming “ever clearer,” say police; Update: London attacks look like attemped fuel-air bombs http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-524786 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Glasgow bombing: Photo of the day year; Update: Links between three attacks becoming “ever clearer,” say police; Update: London attacks look like attemped fuel-air bombs Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:10:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-524786 [...] Update: We’ll have to wait to see to what the deal was with yesterday’s attack, but here’s a detail about the Mercedes bombs in London that Larry “Non-event” Johnson won’t be happy to hear. Chris Driver-Williams, a retired British army major who is a consultant to the U.S. and British governments on bombs manufactured by terrorist groups, said the two car bombs may have appeared crude but their explosive firepower could have been “catastrophic.” [...] [...] Update: We’ll have to wait to see to what the deal was with yesterday’s attack, but here’s a detail about the Mercedes bombs in London that Larry “Non-event” Johnson won’t be happy to hear. Chris Driver-Williams, a retired British army major who is a consultant to the U.S. and British governments on bombs manufactured by terrorist groups, said the two car bombs may have appeared crude but their explosive firepower could have been “catastrophic.” [...]

]]> By: ZK http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-524463 ZK Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:04:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-524463 <blockquote>This sounds like a job for Myth Busters.</blockquote> Olbermann rejects your reality and substitutes his own.

This sounds like a job for Myth Busters.

Olbermann rejects your reality and substitutes his own.

]]> By: Kensington http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-524230 Kensington Sun, 01 Jul 2007 09:08:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-524230 <blockquote>Does a bomb have to go off and kill hundreds for these two idiots to take it seriously???? Lou on June 30, 2007 at 2:48 PM</blockquote> When that happens, be it in 2007 or 2017, they will take it very seriously...as an opportunity to blame it all on Bush.

Does a bomb have to go off and kill hundreds for these two idiots to take it seriously????

Lou on June 30, 2007 at 2:48 PM

When that happens, be it in 2007 or 2017, they will take it very seriously…as an opportunity to blame it all on Bush.

]]> By: gekkobear http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-524213 gekkobear Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:56:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-524213 I agree though, the fact that they had an expensive car puts me at ease. I'd be worried if they were impoverished, and didn't have much in the way of finances or resources with which to carry out attacks. But fortunately, it looks like they're well funded with the capabilities of buying large quantities of materials with which to carry out multiple well financed attacks on civilians. Thank goodness. Well funded opposition is what everyone looks for in a terrorist threat. I agree though, the fact that they had an expensive car puts me at ease.

I’d be worried if they were impoverished, and didn’t have much in the way of finances or resources with which to carry out attacks.

But fortunately, it looks like they’re well funded with the capabilities of buying large quantities of materials with which to carry out multiple well financed attacks on civilians.

Thank goodness. Well funded opposition is what everyone looks for in a terrorist threat.

]]> By: moonbat monitor http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-523807 moonbat monitor Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:52:28 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-523807 I love how they pointed out the expensive car, as if "real" terrorists would ride in on camels or something. What a disingenous lowlife. I love how they pointed out the expensive car, as if “real” terrorists would ride in on camels or something.

What a disingenous lowlife.

]]> By: Wingo http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-523785 Wingo Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:41:23 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-523785 "...half a tank of gas..." 50 gallons. What the crap kind of car does Olby drive? “…half a tank of gas…”

50 gallons.

What the crap kind of car does Olby drive?

]]> By: sMack http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-523620 sMack Sun, 01 Jul 2007 03:36:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-523620 Non-event....Olby, Now there's a non-event for ya Non-event….Olby, Now there’s a non-event for ya

]]> By: Olbermann, Johnson and the Left on Terror « Constitution Club http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-523437 Olbermann, Johnson and the Left on Terror « Constitution Club Sun, 01 Jul 2007 02:34:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-523437 [...] Hot Air made that observation and posted this interesting exchange between Keith Olbermann and former CIA officer Larry Johnson: [...] [...] Hot Air made that observation and posted this interesting exchange between Keith Olbermann and former CIA officer Larry Johnson: [...]

]]> By: Three Sources http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-523218 Three Sources Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:56:23 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-523218 <strong>Near Miss...</strong> I have never seen Keith Oberman before. I have read about him, but didn't get the full KO Experience, until I saw this YouTube clip on HotAir (Hat-tip: Insty I think) He's got a former CIA guy (Larry Johnson who...... Near Miss…

I have never seen Keith Oberman before. I have read about him, but didn’t get the full KO Experience, until I saw this YouTube clip on HotAir (Hat-tip: Insty I think) He’s got a former CIA guy (Larry Johnson who……

]]> By: Freelancer http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-2/#comment-523146 Freelancer Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:24:41 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-523146 <blockquote>Mark Jaquith on June 30, 2007 at 6:27 PM</blockquote> I think they meant several hundred foot radius, it would certainly take a rather monstrous bomb to reach more than that. Now, an individual nail propelled from such an explosion might have a flight path of greater than a hundred yards with deadly force, but it would be an oddity.

Mark Jaquith on June 30, 2007 at 6:27 PM

I think they meant several hundred foot radius, it would certainly take a rather monstrous bomb to reach more than that. Now, an individual nail propelled from such an explosion might have a flight path of greater than a hundred yards with deadly force, but it would be an oddity.

]]> By: canopfor http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-523142 canopfor Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:23:08 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-523142 OLBIE,is an IDIOT. It would have done a lot of damage. YUPPIE TERRORISTS,yet again no matter how you slice it or detonate it there still a TERRORIST. OLBIE,is an IDIOT.
It would have done a lot of damage.
YUPPIE TERRORISTS,yet again no matter
how you slice it or detonate it
there still a TERRORIST.

]]> By: Karridine http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-523086 Karridine Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:01:39 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-523086 Someone named <a href="http://www.ICallBS.net" rel="nofollow">Oldermann is bitch-slapping Olbermann at I Call BS!</a> (He ain't IowaHawk every time, but he's pretty good!) Someone named Oldermann is bitch-slapping Olbermann at I Call BS! (He ain’t IowaHawk every time, but he’s pretty good!)

]]> By: ReubenJCogburn http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-522940 ReubenJCogburn Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:50:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-522940 The really amazing thing is that there are people that are so pathetic that they worship Olberdouche's every moronic syllable. At that point, they might as well be living in a parallel dimension, because they've completely lost touch with <em>our</em> reality. The really amazing thing is that there are people that are so pathetic that they worship Olberdouche’s every moronic syllable. At that point, they might as well be living in a parallel dimension, because they’ve completely lost touch with our reality.

]]> By: Mark Jaquith http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-522903 Mark Jaquith Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:27:43 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-522903 <blockquote>the explosion would have been lethal within a “several hundred yard radius.”</blockquote> Really? People <strong>three football fields away</strong> would have died? Forget multi-million dollar bunker buster bombs. We should be driving Mercedes into Osama's cave.

the explosion would have been lethal within a “several hundred yard radius.”

Really? People three football fields away would have died? Forget multi-million dollar bunker buster bombs. We should be driving Mercedes into Osama’s cave.

]]> By: American8298 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-522797 American8298 Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:38:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-522797 Larry Johnson does not work for the CIA anymore I wonder why? Larry Johnson does not work for the CIA anymore I wonder why?

]]> By: MsUnderestimated http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-522767 MsUnderestimated Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:22:40 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-522767 'The only thing we know at this point is that these people could afford a Mercedes?' WTF is he talking about? ‘The only thing we know at this point is that these people could afford a Mercedes?’

WTF is he talking about?

]]> By: Janos Hunyadi http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-522630 Janos Hunyadi Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:17:16 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-522630 This is maybe the most annoyingly stupid POS I have ever tried to listen to ( I could only take 4 - 5 seconds ) in a long life full of listening to annoyingly stupid....... This is maybe the most annoyingly stupid POS I have ever tried to listen to ( I could only take 4 – 5 seconds ) in a long life full of listening to annoyingly stupid…….

]]> By: American8298 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-522616 American8298 Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:10:50 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-522616 Like the so called bomb expert on Olby he forgot to mention the projectiles that where in the freaking cars! That is just BS this asshole was feeding he's audience disinformation, by leaving out that there was nails in the cars that if they had gone off, what would he story be than? Like the so called bomb expert on Olby he forgot to mention the projectiles that where in the freaking cars! That is just BS this asshole was feeding he’s audience disinformation, by leaving out that there was nails in the cars that if they had gone off, what would he story be than?

]]> By: Buzzy http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-522590 Buzzy Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:54:20 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-522590 Johnson is a perfect example of why the CIA totally missed 9/11. "It would have damaged the interior of the Mercedes" what a moron. 50 gallons of gas alone makes a huge bomb in a crowd and then you add propane cylinders which don't just split, but go off like bombs and rocket hundreds of feet in the air plus pounds of nails for shrapnel. What a moron! Yes, these bombs aren't exactly like what they use in Bagdhad but then again you aren't going to have tons of RDX etc. lying about in London and Glasgow either.... moron. Johnson is a perfect example of why the CIA totally missed 9/11. “It would have damaged the interior of the Mercedes” what a moron. 50 gallons of gas alone makes a huge bomb in a crowd and then you add propane cylinders which don’t just split, but go off like bombs and rocket hundreds of feet in the air plus pounds of nails for shrapnel. What a moron!

Yes, these bombs aren’t exactly like what they use in Bagdhad but then again you aren’t going to have tons of RDX etc. lying about in London and Glasgow either…. moron.

]]> By: PowWow http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-522578 PowWow Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:47:49 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/video-olby-and-larry-johnson-shrug-at-the-non-event-in-london/#comment-522578 Was I the only one that wanted to see Mark Steyn and Mike Baker walk in and slap these two silly? Fair fight, right? 2-Ex-CIA, And Olby is considered a journalist by some. Was I the only one that wanted to see Mark Steyn and Mike Baker walk in and slap these two silly? Fair fight, right? 2-Ex-CIA, And Olby is considered a journalist by some.

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