Report: Car bomb found in London; Update: A crude fuel-air bomb?

posted at 12:40 pm on June 29, 2007 by Allahpundit

Just waking up to this. “An eyewitness said a man had crashed the vehicle into bins near a nightclub and then ran off.” Gasoline, gas canisters, and that old favorite — nails — were found in the car, along with “a potentially explosive device.” Presumably it’s meant as some sort of opening salvo at Gordon Brown, although a nightclub seems an odd choice of targets for that.

Stand by for lots and lots of updates, no doubt.

Update: “These things happen.”

Update: The Beeb has been told that “international elements” are suspected. And no wonder:

This type of car bombing plot is typical of other British Jihadist car bomb plots in the past, including both the July 2005 bomb plots, and the Dhiren Barot Jihadist group bomb plots.

— In July 2005, a number of bombs and components, some packed with nails to cause death and maximum injury, were recovered from a car parked by the July 7 bombers at Luton station.

— British Jihadist Dhiren Barot pleaded guilty to plotting a series of attacks, including detailed plans to explode limousines packed with gas cylinders, explosives and nails after leaving them in underground London parking garages or hotels.

The target isn’t so strange either, according to the Daily Mail: a nightclub in Southwark was on the hit list of the AQ jihadis convicted in Britain earlier this year. The club in this case, the Tiger Tiger, apparently has a capacity of 1,700 people. And last night was ladies’ night.

There are photos at that last link; the manhunt for the driver is on, aided no doubt by Britain’s eight trillion security cameras. Might be a good time to revisit this post from December.

Update: The Times of London quotes nightclub staffers as saying there were about 650 people there last night. Chances are good that they’ve got the suspect on tape: “Mr Neil added that the club’s cameras are ‘absolutely everwhere’ around the club. ‘If you look at where it is, the camera should pick him up getting out of the car. It shouldn’t be long before they start putting out images.’” They might also be able to trace the car’s route using other cameras.

Update: They’re checking around London for other devices, of course, coordinated attacks being a favorite of AQ. Here’s something odd:

The incident, near Piccadilly, began when an ambulance was called to a nightclub at around 1am to treat a person who had fallen ill. The ambulance crew noticed a Mercedes parked outside the club, and saw the vehicle appeared to have smoke inside it…

Earlier, witnesses said they saw the light metallic green saloon car being driven erratically. It then crashed into bins before the driver ran away.

No one thought to call the cops originally, after the car crashed into the bins and the driver took off? Also, why didn’t the driver ram the car into the building itself? That fact, plus the fact that the bomb itself looks to have been the work of “keen amateurs” makes me think it’s probably a homegrown guy or group “inspired” by terrorist ideology and getting pointers off the Internet:

Patio gas cylinders found by police in the light green Mercedes would have been an unlikely weapon for experienced terrorists unless they wanted to create a fireball for the cameras, Sidney Alford, founder of explosives company Alford Technologies, told Guardian Unlimited.

As a readily available combustible material, the propane gas held in such cylinders might be considered by someone unable to source high explosives…

A witness reported nails were lying on the floor of the car, which Mr Alford said was another indication the bomb makers were inexperienced.

“Nails could be considered as an additional way of extending the potential damage and lethal range of the device but putting them on the floor is an incompetent way of building a bomb. They would go straight into the ground,” he said.

Update: The Independent has excellent background on the “gas limo” plot mentioned above that might have inspired this attack. It was masterminded by now-jailed AQ plotter Dhiren Barot, who you might remember for his creepy surveillance video of the World Trade Center. According to the Independent, the gasoline plot was Barot’s attempt to emulate the Madrid bombings. Details:

Barot detailed his proposals in a document entitled “Rough Presentation For Gas Limos Projects”, which was found by police…

He wrote: “Gas can, within certain perimeters, be employed to cause large scale damage to structures since many of them, gas types, are by nature, extremely flammable as well as explosive.”

The chilling document said many different types of gases available on the market were considered, although the “final choice” was narrowed down to propane, butane, acetylene and oxygen.

He concluded that gas explosions from cylinders, if carefully orchestrated, could be as powerful as TNT…

In a passage on petrol, he pointed out that as well as being legally available at forecourts, petrol cans could be filled with sharp metal nails during an attack to maximise damage.

Needless to say, don’t be surprised if that document turns out to have been the “inspiration” for today’s amateur.

Update: “If reports that it contained home-made explosive are correct, it would most likely be a hydrogen peroxide mixture as used in the July 7 atrocities, although a small ‘fertiliser bomb’ made of ammonium nitrate cannot be ruled out.”

Update: A security source claims it’s “entirely possible” that the suspect had links to jihadis in Iraq or elsewhere, but if this really was an international plot timed to send the new prime minister a message, it surely would have been more effective than this. Multiple bombers, professional explosives, etc. The explosive here appears to have been 60 liters of gasoline sitting on the back seat. You can catch a glimpse of it, or of something, in this screencap at the Sun.

Curious, or perhaps not so curious, detail: despite the fact that there’s a massive manhunt on for the suspect and eyewitnesses saw him running from the car, no description of him has been published thus far as far as I can tell.

Update: Hmmm. Sky News is reporting that Park Lane has been closed now due to another suspicious vehicle, but it may simply be out of an abundance of caution. One of the articles I read earlier said they’d done the same thing with another car earlier but it appears to have been a false alarm. Fox is saying now that cops have stopped a double decker bus.

Update: MSNBC had to be dragged to this story kicking and screaming. Surprise.

Update: It’s 10:30 and Fox is reporting that Hyde Park is being evacuated. All of these alarms are probably false, of course, but they’re obviously taking the threat of a coordinated attack extremely seriously.

Update: Sky is reporting by way of Fox that the suspicious vehicle in Park Lane that’s caused the evacuation of Hyde Park is a double-decker bus. The suspect, or *a* suspect, must be on board and they naturally figure he may be wired. Recall that of the four bombs detonated on 7/7/05, the last was aboard a double-decker. Update: Wait, no, hold the phone. According to the Telegraph, the vehicle in Park Lane is a car. The double-decker is a separate lead. According to Sky, it’s the Park Lane car that’s linked to the nightclub bomb. Not sure where the bus figures into this.

Update: I’m officially confused. The would-be bomber drove “erratically” down the street, smashed into some garbage bins, got out and ran away — because he planned to detonate the bomb by cell phone? That’s what Sky is reporting but it makes zero sense. If you’re going to detonate by remote, you’d want to be as unobtrusive as possible so as not to alarm people and have them flee the area or call the bomb squad. Was this guy drunk during the attack? Meanwhile, it’s still not clear if there were any explosives in the car or just the gas tanks. Biiig difference in terms of blast power.

Update: The Kossacks are already busy proving their left-wing terror-fighting superpowers by scoffing at the threat. As for this:

Hours before London explosives technicians dismantled a large car bomb in the heart of the British capital’s tourist-rich theater district, a message appeared on one of the most widely used jihadist Internet forums, saying: “Today I say: Rejoice, by Allah, London shall be bombed.”

Don’t they leave messages like that every day?

Update: Sky has details up now of why they thought it was a cell-phone bomb. Did a hero cop save the day?

Sky News sources say one of the first police officers on the scene of the London West End car bomb may have saved dozens of lives by diffusing the explosives before the bomb squad arrived.

It is believed the quick-thinking cop recognised that the car was wired to blow up, jumped in and disconnected the trigger device, thought to be a mobile phone.

This backs up an eye-witness account of a police officer briefly entering the metallic green Mercedes before running for cover.

Still makes no sense. The driver wouldn’t have careened down the street if this was a cell-phone bomb and he surely wouldn’t have left the cell phone in his haste to get away and detonate it if it was.

Update: The plot thickens. According to Sky, the cops are now looking at a third suspicious vehicle, this one on Fleet Street. A police presser’s set to start at any minute.

Update: Time says that British officials have yet to confirm the story about the car swerving down the street into the trash and the driver running away. It must be apocryphal. The cell-phone thing and the fact that no description of the suspect has been released makes no sense otherwise. Time also confirms that the bomb appears to have been amateurish, which makes the Daily Mail’s claim of an Al Qaeda cell at work that much more dubious.

Update: Danger Room thinks this might (note: might) have been a crude attempt at a very sophisticated weapon — a fuel-air bomb that packs enormous explosive power due to the unusually length of the blast. Maybe this is the equivalent of Iraqo jihadis using chlorine bombs to crudely replicate chemical weapons.

Update: ABC describes the scene as the bomb squad arrived:

Calling the device a “significant bomb,” bomb technicians first approached the car with a robot. The smoke inside the car was so thick that the robot’s camera could not record anything, sources said.

A bomb technician in a heavy kevlar suit approached the car and, sources say, was surprised to find a carefully constructed bomb. The bomb contained 125 liters of gasoline in containers stuffed onto the car’s right front seat and in its trunk. Also in the car were cylinders of propane and butane.

At great personal risk, sources say, the bomb technician then defused the bomb by hand.

According to U.S. security officials briefed on the matter a cell phone was to be used as a detonator.

The only way all of these details make sense to me is if the bomber parked the car casually, left the area, and tried to detonate it — but ended up with a fizzle. That would explain the smoke coming from the car that first alerted bystanders that something was up. It was a misfire. Otherwise you have to believe that the bomber walked away from the car intending to detonate it hours afterwards, but how likely is that given that the longer he waited, the greater the risk would have been that a passerby would notice what was in the car and call the cops?

Update: Londoners shrug. “I sort of think, ‘So what?’”


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Global War on Terror? What Global War on Terror? Shouldn’t we be worrying about Global Warming? ~9/10, 7/6, 6/28 Democrats.

BKennedy on June 29, 2007 at 7:57 AM

Isn’t the guy suppose to stay in the car to get the virgins?

tshell on June 29, 2007 at 7:59 AM

they are lucky the thing didnt go off, sounds like it woulda been pretty bad.

trailortrash on June 29, 2007 at 8:03 AM

Piccadilly is just what….1/2 mile from Buckingham Palace?
From just reading Sky and BBC it looks like it was cooking off and the driver bailed.

Door hinges are been broken off all over London this morning ,that is for sure.

Limerick on June 29, 2007 at 8:05 AM

“I question the timing. These guys are losers, and this isn’t a real threat! They are just using this for political gain. blah blah blah” That’s what they’re going to say.

p40tiger on June 29, 2007 at 8:08 AM

Any odds on how long it’ll be before Britain places limits on bulk purchases of gasoline and nails?

Rusty Bill on June 29, 2007 at 8:11 AM

We had better prepare ourselves. With the dhimmi’s trying to get us our of Iraq and Afganistan it will be happening here too. Perhaps then the folks in DC will get the resolve to secure the borders, enforce immigration laws, actually fight a war, ect…

boomer on June 29, 2007 at 8:11 AM

The scary part this morning is these kind of attacks are usually in sets of 2-3. The Yard is plenty busy today.

Limerick on June 29, 2007 at 8:13 AM

Our pourous southern border will allow suicide homicide bombers easy access here. They will be enabled by the likes of Reid, Pelosi, Mrs. Clinton, Mrs. and Mr. Edwards, et al who insist on denigrating our military and refusing to even aknowledge we’re at war with a 4th Century mentality gaggle of zealots.

SouthernGent on June 29, 2007 at 8:16 AM

this is all a ploy to take away from the news coverage of the Democrat Candidate Debate last night….because lots of new ideas were brought up….and…um…give me a second and I’ll try and think of some…

wryteacher on June 29, 2007 at 8:26 AM

The UK government must be multi-culti at all costs. A source was quoted saying wtte that all possibilities, even the Irish, are being considered.

Retread on June 29, 2007 at 8:29 AM

No doubt the Jihadists (which I have no doubt it was) are testing the new PM’s response to this.

Codec717 on June 29, 2007 at 8:31 AM

And the bumper sticker on the car reads…

“The global war on terror is a bumper sticker”

csdeven on June 29, 2007 at 8:31 AM

Update…..that is why I question the target……the initial reports this morning are that the bouncers did call.
It looks like the device stated to cook off and the driver paniced.

Haymarket is a one-way street that dumps directly into Trafalgar Square and Buckingham Palace.

Limerick on June 29, 2007 at 8:32 AM

Damn, that was a close one. I know it’s been said a million times, but the good guys have to get it right a million times while the jihadis only have to get it right once.

Pablo on June 29, 2007 at 8:35 AM

It’s certainly interesting that the attempted attack comes in Gordon Brown’s first week in office as PM. Al Qaeda greeted President Clinton with the 1993 WTC attack, six weeks or so into his first term. And al Qaeda returned to finish that attack in 2001, about 8 months into President Bush’s first term. And now Brown gets this greeting card in London. If this is a pattern and not a coicidence, 2009 might be a good time to watch for a major al Qaeda attack here.

Bryan on June 29, 2007 at 8:36 AM

The other bumper sticker said “If you can read this, kiss your a$$ goodbye!”

Frozen Tex on June 29, 2007 at 8:36 AM

Is 2AM closing time? That would make for lots and lots of people in the street, which would make for lots and lots of spilled blood. That would seem to be the objective.

Pablo on June 29, 2007 at 8:37 AM

Pablo on June 29, 2007 at 8:37 AM

London…24/7

Limerick on June 29, 2007 at 8:38 AM

Bryan on June 29, 2007 at 8:36 AM

Especially if the Dems take the Whitehouse… they’ll know they’ll be able to attack with impunity, as nothing would actually be done to them in return.

Frozen Tex on June 29, 2007 at 8:39 AM

Haymarket is a one-way street that dumps directly into Trafalgar Square and Buckingham Palace.

Limerick on June 29, 2007 at 8:32 AM

Trafalgar Square…I wonder what the reaction would be among the Brits if Lord Nelson was toppled from his perch there. I wonder if the average citizen of London even knows who he is…

can any Brits enlighten me?

Pilgrim on June 29, 2007 at 8:40 AM

“Nails could be considered as an additional way of extending the potential damage and lethal range of the device but putting them on the floor is an incompetent way of building a bomb. They would go straight into the ground,” he said.

Instant Jihad Syndrome?

Frozen Tex on June 29, 2007 at 8:41 AM

Sounds to me like the work of those nefarious Methodists again.

SailorDave on June 29, 2007 at 8:42 AM

My first thought when I saw the Sky News feed on Fox (after Red Eye of course) was how similar this sounds to the Bali bombing.

If I recall correctly, propane or some other gas was used to create a giant fireball outside/inside of nightclubs, resulting in over 300 deaths.

mjgreco on June 29, 2007 at 8:43 AM

i live just off shaftsbury ave, about 3 mins from there

zane on June 29, 2007 at 8:43 AM

Time to strip the QE2 and start packing Muslims back to the desert. Oh no I forgot, the folks in UK are going to solve this situation with superior intellect and joining arm to arm with Islam.

Good thing they took the right to own a firearms away from all Her Majesty’s subjects.

Lon-dhimm

Hening on June 29, 2007 at 8:46 AM

not gonna hang around to hear how my city has “surrendered” back later all

zane on June 29, 2007 at 8:48 AM

FYI: If you’ve never seen what 1 little propane tank (aka patio gas cylinder) can do Watch this from Monster Garage. Play the clip called, the Grim Ripper. Fast forward to the end. It surprised Jesse James and the Producers. The Producer later said they got a million dollar Hollywood special effect shot for $25. It was unplanned, the owner asked them if they’d like a little explosion with their shredding…

TheBigOldDog on June 29, 2007 at 9:02 AM

Oh, look. The Libs are already questioning the timing, and who did it. There’s a couple good ones involving Dubya.

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 9:03 AM

Just another stupid jihadi without the sophistication to carry out a plan. Uggghhh.

tomas on June 29, 2007 at 9:04 AM

zane on June 29, 2007 at 8:48 AM

I don’t know if you will hear that here; along with Aussie’s been our best ally in these turbulent days – and it’s appreciated.

Spirit of 1776 on June 29, 2007 at 9:04 AM

Awesome. Now we get to hear how much Geraldo doesn’t know about terrorism, since we now know how much he doesn’t know about pro wrestling.

fusionaddict on June 29, 2007 at 9:06 AM

I can hear Olberman now. “this guy is a moron, it was not an imminent threat. Theres also a link to Fox News reporters”

hinduconservative on June 29, 2007 at 9:08 AM

Spirit of 1776 on June 29, 2007 at 9:04 AM

Finally….someone to help me dodge the rocks when I defend England. I don’t blame zane for tuning out some of the fingerpointing here.

Limerick on June 29, 2007 at 9:08 AM

zane on June 29, 2007 at 8:48 AM
not gonna hang around to hear how my city has “surrendered” back later all

People are just expressing their frustration with the situation and the desire that more could be done. And it is no worse than what we say about our own politicians a hundred times a day. That being said, I recognize it is different when you are in the middle of a thwarted terrorist attack. I hope they catch the guy(s) soon. Be safe. :)

Blake on June 29, 2007 at 9:26 AM

Thank God nothing exploded. Of course terrorists may try again, just like those fools that wanted to copy the 7/7 bombers three weeks after the attack. God speed to MI 5, and the police.

mram on June 29, 2007 at 9:28 AM

Sounds amateur. The vessel containing the explosive material is as important as the accelerant. If the details are correct and dude had a propane tank (thin walled non fragmenting) with nails on the floor (not attached to the walls of the tank) then it sounds like weak-tea.

A cast-iron or ceramic jacket would be more applicable for fragmentation. Then again, if you want a big fireball with very little damage (scare tactic) then the senario is close enough.

natesnake on June 29, 2007 at 9:32 AM

Is the Yard probing driving schools to find out if there were any suspicious students who didn’t want to waste their time learning how to drive backwards? Har, har!

Mephistefales on June 29, 2007 at 9:34 AM

And when they track this guy down he’s gonna scream “I HAVE MY RIGHTS!”

Tony737 on June 29, 2007 at 9:36 AM

Sounds to me like the work of those nefarious Methodists again.

SailorDave on June 29, 2007 at 8:42 AM

Ok, Dave. Why do people always have to go after Methodists. Isn’t it enough that our churches are being watched by G-men with dark sunglasses, our ministers’ speeches are monitored and edited by government censors, and our church members are placed on ‘watch lists’ and ‘no-fly lists’? Just what do we Methodists have to do to prove that Methodism, for the most part, is a religion of peace? Just because there are radical members of our church doesn’t mean that all of us are terrorists! Why can’t you people understand this?!?

Abu Daboo Doo on June 29, 2007 at 9:38 AM

natesnake on June 29, 2007 at 9:32 AM

I agree.
They are an inexperienced cell. The driver could have been tagged as a suicide bomber and lost his nerve (it happens) the materials they used can be effective but it takes an experienced bomb maker to construct it properly.

Their capabilities and techniques aren’t mature yet much like Iraq in early 2004.

The scary thing is it shows they are trying new things and with every attempt, failed or successful, they will develop and refine their tactics.

The UK better clamp down now.

Trooper on June 29, 2007 at 9:41 AM

Thats pretty lame. I’m no explosives expert but 60 liters is only 15 gallons of gas. If not ignited properly it really wouldn’t do much but burn. So lets just see crappy bomb, failed to blow that up, probably was filmed by 100 cameras throughout London and will get caught AND he lost his nice Benz. Looser.

amend2 on June 29, 2007 at 9:41 AM

If we would just leave Iraq and leave the Middle East they would leave us alone…Cough.

As more and more folks from that area and others (to be nice) run to other countries…there will always be the mullahs around and their minions to stir up trouble. This expansion is the root of most problems.

tomas on June 29, 2007 at 9:43 AM

Limerick on June 29, 2007 at 9:08 AM

Well we are a johnny-come-lately to this particular issue. It reminds me of what Churchill wrote in his memoirs. He said, in context of mobilizing the British to meet the German threat, that the British have fought on the side of freedom and to defend the ‘little’ guys for over 400 years.

And he diagnosed the violent nature of the current threat to freedom with comprehension echoed by Mr. Spencer today. I just don’t think we do well to forget those things.

Spirit of 1776 on June 29, 2007 at 9:45 AM

…Why can’t you people understand this?!?

Abu Daboo Doo on June 29, 2007 at 9:38 AM

Brother Doo? Brother Abu Daboo Doo…your vest is ready at the Parish Hall. Brother Doo, your vest is ready at the Parish Hall. Thank You.

Pilgrim on June 29, 2007 at 9:46 AM

tomas on June 29, 2007 at 9:43 AM

I agree on one point. These types of techniques are exported from one place to another.

Migration of tactics from Iraq to Afghanistan for instance.

It is very plausible that they had someone with battlefield experience attempt to pass the knowledge.

All the more reason to ensure you have secure borders:)

Trooper on June 29, 2007 at 9:46 AM

amend2 on June 29, 2007 at 9:41 AM

According to the Sun article, there were two propane tanks in addition to the petrol and nails.

IrishEi on June 29, 2007 at 9:47 AM

amend2 on June 29, 2007 at 9:41 AM

Why don’t you go watch the video I posted above to see what 1 little gas grill propane tank can do? Have you ever even ignited a few ounces of gasoline in a confined space?

TheBigOldDog on June 29, 2007 at 9:48 AM

amend2 on June 29, 2007 at 9:41 AM

The bomb wouldn’t cause the most damage, though it will cause a lot. Think deeper into it. He had “a lot” of nails inside the car. The glass from the car windows, other debris from the car, and the car’s gas tank exploding would do the most.

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 9:51 AM

Yeah.
That undoubtedly would have made a nasty pop in a crowded area.

Trooper on June 29, 2007 at 9:51 AM

That bomb was rigged for shrapnel.To hit unprotected folks on the ground. Like those people coming out of the pubs at closing.

Trooper on June 29, 2007 at 9:52 AM

i live just off shaftsbury ave, about 3 mins from there

zane on June 29, 2007 at 8:43 AM

thank God nothing happened and I’m glad your safe zane.

Keli on June 29, 2007 at 9:54 AM

Oxford Street has now been closed.

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 9:54 AM

ah. the religion of pieces.

mimi1220 on June 29, 2007 at 9:54 AM

Following a “similar scare”.

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 9:54 AM

Trooper on June 29, 2007 at 9:46 AM

I agree, but it has to be a true military border…all others unfortunately are ripe for corruption.

tomas on June 29, 2007 at 9:56 AM

We have a “question the timing” Moonbat sweepstakes winner at the Dummocratic Underground: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×3346068

William Teach on June 29, 2007 at 9:56 AM

They used to blame Blair for the terrorist attacks. Will they blame Brown now?

sugiero on June 29, 2007 at 10:01 AM

Oh, look. The Libs are already questioning the timing, and who did it. There’s a couple good ones involving Dubya.

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 9:03 AM

How do you keep your brain from exploding while reading that stuff?

Sounds to me like the work of those nefarious Methodists again.

SailorDave on June 29, 2007 at 8:42 AM

Drats! Foiled again! The Methodist Martyrs Brigade will now disappear into the night and have another beer.

The next explosion you hear will be us opening our beers after shaking them.

TwinkietheKid on June 29, 2007 at 10:01 AM

Brown reacts. Video.

sugiero on June 29, 2007 at 10:03 AM

Oh, look. The Libs are already questioning the timing, and who did it. There’s a couple good ones involving Dubya.

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 9:03 AM
How do you keep your brain from exploding while reading that stuff?

for real, i tryed to read a few of those posts i had to walk away from my desk for a few minutes.

trailortrash on June 29, 2007 at 10:04 AM

The next explosion you hear will be us opening our beers after shaking them.

TwinkietheKid on June 29, 2007 at 10:01 AM

WHAT!?!?! You shake THEN open!?!?! JIHAD on you…you…HEATHEN! I always wondered about you sprinklin’ types and now it’s confirmed!

Pilgrim
Low Potentate, 5th Class
Presbyterian Liberation Organization

Pilgrim on June 29, 2007 at 10:05 AM

When will Europe wake up? When????

msipes on June 29, 2007 at 10:05 AM

trailortrash on June 29, 2007 at 10:04 AM

I don’t consider what they’re saying, just read the context. Basically, it’s like working in a lab. Tongs, gloves, and goggles.

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 10:10 AM

Thank goodness for the incompetence of our Muslim enemies. Otherwise, the morning news would be full of cute English girls in party dresses full of nails and bathed in blood. Sooner or later, we’re going to run out of luck and the jihadis will get lucky. What a depraved religion Islam is to preach to Muslims that the way to meet girls is to blow girls up in posh London clubs.

Tantor on June 29, 2007 at 10:11 AM

Yeah.
That undoubtedly would have made a nasty pop in a crowded area.

Agreed. We must all keep in mind that it’s not the technology that should scare us, it’s the intent.

natesnake on June 29, 2007 at 10:12 AM

Thank goodness for the incompetence of our Muslim enemies.

Isn’t that the truth.

Spirit of 1776 on June 29, 2007 at 10:24 AM

Well, that shows you how effective all those video cameras are. The cops just happened to come across the car because they were responding to a completely unrelated incident. Come on London, will you please wake up? Video cameras and banning piggy banks isn’t going to fix the problem.

Thank God nobody was hurt.

WisCon on June 29, 2007 at 10:34 AM

Lets play the Keith Overbite “I question the timing” game!
The ‘convenient’ timing of the ‘bomb’ discovery was meant to redirect attention from:
A)The SCOTUS ‘resegregation’ decision.
B) The fantastic attention being paid to “Sicko”
C)The Democrat’s debate.
D) The Immigration Bill failure.
E) The 3-month troop death totals.

You too can play!

clghitis on June 29, 2007 at 10:45 AM

Meghyn Kelly on Fax just called Park Lane, “The Mecca of Shopping”

I could tell from her unchanging tone of voice that she missed the irony of that comment.

But, I still lover her!!! :)

JayHaw Phrenzie on June 29, 2007 at 10:56 AM

TheBigOldDog on June 29, 2007 at 9:48 AM

Have you ever even ignited a few ounces of gasoline in a confined space?

I’m thinking that the answer to that one is…NO. For those unaware 1 cup of gasoline equals the explosive power of 5 sticks of dynamite, 60 liter equals 15.8 gallons, (15.8 X 16 x 5) or approximately 1264 sticks of dynamite. With those propane tanks to proving the compression (provided they explode first) thats one hell of an explosion.

doriangrey on June 29, 2007 at 11:03 AM

I forgot F)Bush subpoena battle!

Looking at Huffpo comments, the “I question the timing” game apparently isn’t limited to Bushco:
pelosiforpresident (See profile | I’m a fan of pelosiforpresident)
No, I don’t consider this news.
Excuse me for becoming somewhat cynical over the last few years, but I think it’s just as likely that Gordon Brown wanted something to make him look forceful and efficient on his 1st day in office, and this was it.
Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of e-mails are still missing and GWB is refusing to honor the subpoenas. THAT’S NEWS.”

clghitis on June 29, 2007 at 11:05 AM

On the last update..

Witnesses said they saw smoke in the car…

My guess is that he did expect to explode it by Cell phone… but then somthing went off a bit early, started to smoke, he drove erraticly, crashed… and ran…

I also suspect that since thats a one way street to bigger targets, it went off MUCH earlier than he expected…

Romeo13 on June 29, 2007 at 11:25 AM

Police now say that there was enough flammable gas in the car, to fill the entire trunk, according to Fox.

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 11:25 AM

I’m officially confused

So am I and every time I look at Sky News their lead changes. Anyway, I don’t see damage on the car. Maybe he just knocked over a garbage can he didn’t see:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_gallery/picture_gallery/0,,30000-1272919-1,00.html

bnelson44 on June 29, 2007 at 11:25 AM

Could it be that the club wasn’t his target?

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 11:26 AM

Maybe the guy was loopy from the gas fumes, causing him to behave so erraticly. Of course if you’re getting ready to blow up people, I imagine some erratic behavior is expected.

vcferlita on June 29, 2007 at 11:28 AM

Police now saying that several people were seen going away from the Mercedes car bomb.

amerpundit on June 29, 2007 at 11:29 AM

I’m listening to Sky online, and, I think that they just said that a regular police officer grabbed the cell phone off the car’s seat, that was to be used as a detonator, and ran the other way with it, preventing the explosion, and saving a number of lives.

nailinmyeye on June 29, 2007 at 11:33 AM

Driving erratically, smoke coming out of the car… Anybody know what Harold and Kumar have been up to lately?

Jim Treacher on June 29, 2007 at 11:35 AM

Vcferlita,

That fits with running into garbage cans and what the erratic driving

bnelson44 on June 29, 2007 at 11:36 AM

Comments from the HuffPo:

… And no one was tortured or held for years without charge (Things with which the Brits have extensive experience!)

No one was hurt and they didn’t even need to sell their souls to Satan to defuse it.

WisCon on June 29, 2007 at 11:40 AM

Time for England to bring in more foreign moderate Muslims to counterbalance the radical homegrown ones.

Problem with Islam?

Answer- more Islam.

Till it kills you.

profitsbeard on June 29, 2007 at 11:56 AM

ThreatsWatch: This was most probably an attempted suicide car bombing. In a highly surveilled London area, there is more risk than reward for the larger group and cells in ‘other -than-martyrdom’ operations. The driver was not simply parking the car for the bomb to later detonate. He would have driven with more care to escape relatively unnoticed. The bomb, described in reports as “huge,” did not detonate when the driver expected outside the Tiger, Tiger night club. Instead, the detonator smoldered. Having already attracted the attention of multiple people on the street, the bomber needed to escape before the contents of his car were discovered in his presence. He could have driven the car off, but if the bomb was going to eventually perhaps detonate, it would then not be at its target. It is one thing to be in control of a suicide mission (psychologically speaking) and quite another to drive around without control or knowledge of when one’s bomb will explode. Furthermore, if smoke was filling the car, visually obscuring and perhaps even noxious, driving might have been determined difficult at best. So, the bomber fled and left the device to hopefully eventually detonate at its intended target, even if off schedule.

bnelson44 on June 29, 2007 at 12:02 PM

Not surprised that the club’s security guys didn’t call the police after seeing the car’s driver running off – there’s lots of drunken behaviour that time of night with hundreds of clubbers milling about the area and one more drunk abandoning his car probably wouldn’t have caused concern. If the bomb had gone off it would have caused lots of bloodshed because, as I mentioned, that area is swarming with clubbers either leaving places or arriving (some clubs in the area are open to 4.30 ) late.
As for targetting young clubbers , the British islamists have a particular hatred for them. There was a TV programme on young British islamists (mainly of Pakistani origin) who used to go to nightclubs but were , as they said, “saved by Islam” and now shun the whole club scene. These guys were filled with contempt for what they called “the drunken, debauched, louts” who go to nightclubs and for the “English sluts who dress in mini-skirts” .

London Boy on June 29, 2007 at 12:06 PM

Driving erratically, smoke coming out of the car… Anybody know what Harold and Kumar have been up to lately?

Jim Treacher on June 29, 2007 at 11:35 AM

*taps cage with lead pipe*

Now Jim, how can you be working for Greg, and be here commenting at the same time? Do you want me to tighten your shackles again? Huh? I didn’t think so.

NOW GET BACK TO WORK!

natesnake on June 29, 2007 at 12:07 PM

I have not read every post here, so forgive me if this has already been asked, but has there been any speculation in linking this with the video of the graduation of those 300 terrorists, who were sent to carry out these types of attacks?

Weight of Glory on June 29, 2007 at 12:08 PM

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