Democrats demand Bush close Gitmo

posted at 5:45 pm on June 29, 2007 by Bryan

It’s interesting. Democrats are big spenders on everything but national security, decade after decade, during peace or during war. Propose cutting almost any government program at any time and Democrats will scream and caterwaul until you’ve gone deaf. But they consistently lead the charge in cutting funding to DoD during peacetime and now, trying to cut funding for the war and Camp Delta at Gitmo.

House Democrats want to cut President Bush’s budget for Guantanamo Bay prison in half, beating the administration to the punch in shutting down the facility for terror detainees.

The White House says Bush has already decided to close the U.S. prison in Cuba and transfer more than 370 terrorism suspects elsewhere, possibly including the maximum-security military prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kan.

There’s actually some dispute over that, with the AP apparently erroneously reporting last week that the White House was set to close Gitmo. So this story retrenches that bad one and ups the ante. But no matter; the AP still hasn’t corrected its Hurriya reporting of last year. Why would it bother to correct a story from last week?

And no matter #2, Bush has been saying he’d like to close Gitmo for years. And he’s tried to get other countries to take their miscreants back so we don’t have to house them and so we can avoid potentially bad scenes with Korans in medium proximity to toilets that Newsweek can turn into another chance for Islamic Rage Boy to hit the streets. But the other countries won’t take their bad boys back, and when we release them they have the bad habit of turning up back on the battlefield fighting our troops again, so we’re kind of stuck with them. They weren’t read their Miranda rights when our troops picked them up in Afghanistan, Miranda not being applicable to the average Pakistani jihadi picked up firing an AK-47 at Rangers on the outskirts of Herat, but that gives the ACLU an opening to grab the terrorists a Get Out Of Jail Free Card the moment the DoD moves them onto US soil at places like Leavenworth.

It’s a total no-win situation all the way around, compounded by the SCOTUS decision to hear of the terrorists’ plight.

Behind all of this, we’re at war, and the cousins of the thugs that the Democrats want moved out of Cuba are at this minute being sought for placing a couple of car bombs on the streets of London. Only dumb luck saved hundreds and maybe thousands of lives today. The timing of the failed attack makes me wonder if al Qaeda isn’t going to become a kind of Islamic welcome wagon for US and British leaders upon assuming office. There was the first WTC bombing in 1993, a few weeks into Clinton’s first term. There was 9-11, a few months into Bush’s first term. Now there’s the flop on 6-29, inside 48 hours of Gordon Brown’s run as British PM. Get a new leader, get a new attack on your soil.

Yes yes, this is all a bumper sticker. We know, John. Go back to brushing your hair and letting your wife fight your battles for you. The grownups are talking right now.

If I’m right about the timing, 2009 is probably the next time we can look forward to a bona fide and spectacular al Qaeda attack attempt on American soil. Whatever they’re cooking up, it’s in the planning stages right now, in New York or the DC suburbs or wherever they believe they can operate without detection and will have access to their supplies and targets. Until they move or are busted, we can look forward to more idiotic posturing from Democrats who are at the same time promising to blow billions on new government programs for all kinds of things, while de-funding the war in Iraq and cutting the funds to house some very bad men at Gitmo. We can look forward to more context-free reports of carnage from all over the world, and we get to enjoy the downright delicious prospect of even Republicans deserting the war effort.

Their priorities tell us that virtually no Democrat and fewer Republicans are serious about the threat that those men at Gitmo and their mates in London pose.


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Well, plenty of attacks have been planned in advance of elections as well. (Madrid, Aerobomb)

Number 2 on June 29, 2007 at 5:53 PM

The libbies choose to believe there are no terrorists, so there are none. They choose to abandon 15,000 year old, tried and true, honed-to-near-perfection traditions, such as marriage or capitalism, in favor of chic experiments with a short-lived, yet disastrous track record of consistent failures, such as socialism or atheism.

Just par for the course.

stonemeister on June 29, 2007 at 5:57 PM

The Democrats…whadda we gonna do.

Their playbook is getting so old. Cut, cut, cut, no answer, cut some more. Get in power, spend, spend, spend, no answer, spend some more.

What’s the democrats favorite w(h)ine…the Repubicans aren’t doing anything right.

Critizise, complain, coverup…the three C’s

I can see why they love Hillary, Edwards, Gore, etc.

right2bright on June 29, 2007 at 5:58 PM

I wish they had of just contracted the incarceration and interrogation of those fiends to the Sikhs!

TheSitRep on June 29, 2007 at 6:04 PM

I think Gates wants to close Gitmo. As soon as he finds a suitable replacement site, I think it will be closed down.

I tend to think it will be in another country…. say, Afganistan.

bnelson44 on June 29, 2007 at 6:05 PM

The libbies choose to believe there are no terrorists, so there are none.

Tommy Chong would be proud of them. Unless he’s too stoned out of his mind to even comprehend a sentence.

Metro on June 29, 2007 at 6:06 PM

That’s liberals for you. They care oh so deeply about civil liberties for terrorists but try to buy a gun or smoke a cigarette and they want to throw you in jail. Next thing you know we’ll have Terrorists for Hillary buttons.

Frank Nitti on June 29, 2007 at 6:06 PM

Damn them. I kinda said this yesterday, that they would be attacking everything now. ( the Dems are attacking as ubiquitously as the jihadis) Regardless of how you look at it, this amnesty bill hurts the left far more than the right. So, get ready for attacks…lots of them coming from the jihadileft w/in America. Not that we don’t have enough to worry about with real terrorists, so now the ‘bumper sticker’ is Gitmo.

Bumper sticker….ya know? if that bomb (or 2) had gone off in London , the bumper would have stuck somewhere, just not up Edwards arse, where it belongs.

shooter on June 29, 2007 at 6:07 PM

2009 is probably the next time we can look forward to a bona fide and spectacular al Qaeda attack attempt on American soil

I’d go for during the 2009 Inauguration ceremonies.

…it’s in the planning stages right now…wherever they believe they can operate without detection

Ummm…Dearborn, maybe?

Take heart Bryan – some of the pain evident here may be a hangover from yesterday’s Franzia Shamnesty celebration.

eeyore on June 29, 2007 at 6:16 PM

Well, then. I demand we use John Edwards’ gigantic compound to house the ex-Gitmo dudes.

Sir Loin on June 29, 2007 at 6:18 PM

Dems are keen to close Gitmo, but no one seems to get them to say what should be done with the detainees. I suspect that they really would just like to release them, but even they know that wouldn’t fly. There’s a question you won’t hear at the next Dem debate, how would Dem X administration resolve the legal status of post gitmo detainees?

Just send them to an SF half-way house in the Castro with electronic monitoring. I’m sure that things will work out just fine for everyone.

rw on June 29, 2007 at 6:22 PM

Even a successful attack will not sway the libs towards the reality of the global jihad. If a bomb goes off in this country, the libs will blame BushCo and claim that the poor jihadists are only responding the the imperialism of Amerika. The libs will also blame Homeland Security for not stopping the plot in time. However, if HS does continue to thwart the jihadist plans and we have no incidents, the libs will claim that there is no terror threat since there has been not attack.

The WTC and Pentagon represent money and military, “conservative” targets. Only if there is an attack on a lib stronghold, such as SF, and the jihadists make it clear that they are attacking the “decadent values” of the libs and the West, will the libs take this seriously.

Mallard T. Drake on June 29, 2007 at 6:32 PM

I demand that the Democrat Congress close down the Kennedy Compound!!!

MCPO Airdale on June 29, 2007 at 6:38 PM

The Gitmo solution is simple. We have only to look to the profound wisdom of the 1st album title of that most American of American metal bands, Metallica.

KILL ‘EM ALL

infidel4life on June 29, 2007 at 6:51 PM

I’ll vote for closure, only and IF all the Democrats submit their resignations in exchange. Then we can implement the 2 cent solution for the terrorists, $0.02 = 1 bullet.

Static on June 29, 2007 at 6:59 PM

They’re trying to close it before the White House can, so they can take credit for it being shut down.

BadgerHawk on June 29, 2007 at 7:02 PM

I just Cannot get over the Picture on this post.
Hilarious! Thank You!
And, No, Gitmo should Not be closed…unless we open another prison up in Alaska. No need for thugs to be on a tropical island. Take the desert dwellers to the snow and ice. heh.

bridgetown on June 29, 2007 at 7:07 PM

Make a good reality show. Week long ad campaign. General invite for a public audience at the taping. Chopper them to Ground Zero and kick em out the door. Survivor-Manhatten.

Limerick on June 29, 2007 at 7:07 PM

That’s exactly what this president would do, kill them all. Put them aboard a jet liner, Pelosi’s, fly it over the Atlantic and suddenly at high altitude the cabin loses all cabin pressure. When you get back to see what happened their well, dead, frozen. Wait, I have it, they can do the jobs Americans like Reid and Kennedy won’t do, ship anchors.

That guillotine is collecting dust, let’s bring it and try it 450 times or so.

warpmine on June 29, 2007 at 7:09 PM

Since Pelosi wants it closed, and probably so does Boxer, I think the only alternative is to reopen Alcatraz…

jeffshultz on June 29, 2007 at 7:14 PM

Since Pelosi wants it closed, and probably so does Boxer, I think the only alternative is to reopen Alcatraz…

jeffshultz on June 29, 2007 at 7:14 PM

Just let them loose in San Fransicko, no one will ever know. They will fit right in.

Wade on June 29, 2007 at 7:22 PM

The Beauty of this country is going to be our downfall.
(beauty in that we raise free thinking, idealistic people who seem to never grow up and realize the Realities and complex nature of this world.)
I’d like to think that Wiser minds prevail. It is no wonder the entire world scoffs at us.

bridgetown on June 29, 2007 at 7:32 PM

What’s funny is I was awake when the London car-bomb thing broke early this morning/late last night. I emailed you (Bryan) and AP, and jokingly wrote in the body of my email:

I’m waiting for Michael Moore to come out and insist “there is no terrorist threat” so we can all go back to attacking Bush for wanting to spy on our enemies.

Slightly different, but when I wrote that I debating going the “close Gitmo” angle, but instead went with the “illegal wiretapping” angle instead. Damn! If I had gone the “close Gitmo” angle, I’d have been able to claim to be a prophet.

Either way, now we know what Rove was up to when he set up those car bombs in London. I thought it was intended to distract from Bush spying on your phone calls, but really it was to distract from the Dems call to close Gitmo, which the Illuminati White House obviously knew was coming today.

RightWinged on June 29, 2007 at 7:32 PM

Just let them loose in San Fransicko, no one will ever know. They will fit right in.

Wade on June 29, 2007 at 7:22 PM

It would be cruel to do that before first finding alternate accommodations for the bums and other homeless.

Dusty on June 29, 2007 at 7:38 PM

This has interested me for a few months now, since the calls to shut down Gitmo have become shriller and shriller. For any legal eagles out there, just what could we charge these delightful gentlemen with in a US court? Anyone?

They aren’t American citizens, American law does not apply to them, especially since they did not violate any American laws while on American soil. Colin Powell was on TV talking about how we need to give these guys lawyers (I thought they had lawyers?) and try their case in court in the US. Since when did we start trying prisoners of war in a civilian court?

They could possibly be charged in their own countries, but in the US? What kind of indictment can be delivered against these guys? What law did they violate? What sort of jurisdiction does a US court have on these people? Huh, Powell?

Does anyone even remember why we hold these fools up in Gitmo instead of in the US? Anyone remember the fact that al Qaeda wanted some of their homies released from US prisons? Should we risk al Qaeda making attempts to bust out their buddies in a US prison? Or should we perhaps, oh I don’t know, entertain me for a sec, lock them up way out in the middle of the Caribbean?

Then there’s the little possibility of prisoners getting information from the outside world. Where’s that probability higher, stuck out on military base on Cuba or in Kansas?

You know, you almost have to wonder whether the Left wants to bring the prisoners to the US precisely because they and their lawyer buddies know that US law does not and cannot apply to these people, inevitably leading to them being let go, and the Left gets their moral victory over the Bush administration.

I can see it now. The defense’s opening statement:

“What crime has this man committed? Can the prosecution name the statute violated by my client? What part of the US Criminal Code is applicable to him? Ladies and gentleman, this man has committed no crime, and must be let go.”

370 times. Oh the joy!

Yeah, yeah, the Left supports the troops, except when they want to get the guys that tried killing them off the hook. But now I’m just being a racist. Or sexist. Or homophobic. Or something bad!

The poor souls! All they wanted to do was kill an American while visiting Pakistan or Afghanistan. What’s wrong with that? If Bush takes a hit, you must acquit. Wait, I think I got that backwards.

Seixon on June 29, 2007 at 8:32 PM

Shoot ‘em when you catch ‘em.

Saves all this trouble with political wheedling, lawyerly wrangling and propaganda b.s.-ing.

Their only rights should be to a blindfold and a fusillade.

Meanwhile we have to suffer through (and PAY for):

How To Commit Slow, Civilizational Suicide By Legalistic Insanity.

profitsbeard on June 29, 2007 at 8:48 PM

Go ahead and cut the budget in half – then the terrorists get half the amount of food, half the clothes, half the number of Korans, half the TP, etc…

Stevel on June 29, 2007 at 9:04 PM

I can’t believe there are people out there whining that we should put these … animals … in an American court and let them invoke the same Constitutional privilege that they’d spit upon given the chance.

What’s next? When we catch binLaden are the Dems going to want him locked up in Twin Towers Correctional along with tax evaders and Paris’s former cellmates?

Ryan Gandy on June 29, 2007 at 9:09 PM

Rendition is your friend.

paul006 on June 29, 2007 at 9:10 PM

Go ahead and cut the budget in half – then the terrorists get half the amount of food, half the clothes, half the number of Korans, half the TP, etc…

Stevel on June 29, 2007 at 9:04 PM

That is a hell of an idea. We could stop buying panties to give them as hats and instead buy bras, cut them in half and the terrorists would have a nice beanie with a chin strap.

Wade on June 29, 2007 at 9:13 PM

Dems are keen to close Gitmo, but no one seems to get them to say what should be done with the detainees.

How about opening the fence and letting Castro have them? Considering that lefties seem to have very little if any problems with Fidel’s island-sized concentration camp worker’s paradise, giving the terrorists detainees to Castro should suit the Dems just fine.

Bigfoot on June 29, 2007 at 9:27 PM

Just close it down then, move it to somewhere like Diego Garcia, and don’t let any politicians or press near it again.

reaganaut on June 29, 2007 at 9:29 PM

Fine. Take the illegal combatants to the middle of the Atlantic and tell them to swim home. Send the ‘legal’ combatants to Ted Kennedy’s compound and make him responsible for them.

That is a hell of an idea. We could stop buying panties to give them as hats and instead buy bras, cut them in half and the terrorists would have a nice beanie with a chin strap.
Wade on June 29, 2007 at 9:13 PM

LOL!

CrazyFool on June 29, 2007 at 9:39 PM

Oh, and I’m totally behind the idea to send them all to Alcatraz if Bush gives up on Gitmo. Can you dig it, Pelosi?

Seixon on June 29, 2007 at 9:53 PM

AAAAhhhh…!!! I got it!!
Prisoner #284797 was just released after serving eight (8) years for granting “final exit” wishes to over 130 people.

Solution: Give Jack Kevorkian free rein in Gitmo and I promise you my bottom dollar that will be the last report ever issued from Cuba or the neighbor island!!

Solutions always…. You are welcome Mr. President

Mcguyver on June 29, 2007 at 10:15 PM

So, does anyone have any actual evidence that the men held at Gitmo are all terrorists? Or are we just going to have masturbatory fantasies about lynching the ragheads without a trial?

AJB on June 29, 2007 at 10:26 PM

The foolish Bush agenda failures will certainly tempt AQ to strike again here during the next 16 months. Public emasculation of Bush does nothing to reinforce the notion that we are safer with a Republican in the White House. Successful terror attacks might drive our fickle electorate into adopting a leadership change we will long regret.

This is not trending well. As Bryan put it, “virtually no Democrat and fewer Republicans are serious about the threat…”

T J Green on June 29, 2007 at 10:31 PM

So, does anyone have any actual evidence that the men held at Gitmo are all terrorists?

Ya, actually I do.

Or are we just going to have masturbatory fantasies about lynching the ragheads without a trial?

Unreal. I guess we know which side you’re on. I almost feel sorry for you.

reaganaut on June 29, 2007 at 11:18 PM

Let em’ all go. Why not…

Just let them go after being chemically castrated, and being covered from head to toe with Porky Pig tattoos.

Seriously though, I imagine that many of the guests of Club Gitmo are pretty much a dry hole as far as useful intel, and likely have been for some time.

So… if the Libs want them in Prison here to let them avail themselves of our vaunted, speedy legal system… fine. So be it.

But only if they get to experience the full hospitality of our Maximum Security Penile (oops.. did I say that? I meant Penal.. sorry!) system, and especially the warm, fuzzy greetings of the general population.

“Hey Khalid!…. Meet your new cell “mate”! “We call him Spike! heheh..”

“Oh, Khalid, I forgot to tell ya… Spike just made the 600 club on the bench press… are you proud of him?”

“Khalid… I would STRONGLY suggest you tell him you are proud of him…. Well, you lads have fun, now!”

paragon27x on June 29, 2007 at 11:23 PM

Or are we just going to have masturbatory fantasies about lynching the ragheads without a trial?

The enemy determines the rules of engagement and the Islamists have spoken.

We should take them to prisons in Eastern Europe.

Mojave Mark on June 29, 2007 at 11:28 PM

AJB-

They were caught on the battlefield in Afghanistan (except for terrorist mastermind Kahlid Sheik Mohammad), and that’s where they should have been buried.

KSM should be buried at sea, after the lethal injection.

You’re worrying about the wrong thing, pardner. The thing that’ll be slicing off your head one day, should your attitude generalize to hamstring our efforts to defeat these psychopathic theocratic maniacs.

(Or do you buy the: “Jeepers, I was simply over there helping build little mud schoolhouses for the children of the Taliban and simply wandered into a U.S. patrol, by accident, while out picking wildflowers…”)

profitsbeard on June 29, 2007 at 11:32 PM

AJB on June 29, 2007 at 10:26 PM

Military trials on location are fine with me. There is no way in he** I want these people in the States. NO WAY! They are not citizens and do not merit civilian trials.

Connie on June 29, 2007 at 11:33 PM

AJB on June 29, 2007 at 10:26 PM

How about you put a couple of ‘em up at your place? Let us know how it goes.

infidel4life on June 30, 2007 at 12:00 AM

So, does anyone have any actual evidence that the men held at Gitmo are all terrorists?

AJB on June 29, 2007 at 10:26 PM

What do you mean by proof?

Most if not all of them either surrendered, guns in hand, to coalition forces during combat operations or were caught in their homes with weapons, bomb making materials, etc. Are you insinuating that our troops just pick up people at random to fill beds at Gitmo? How much proof do you need?

Google is your friend

Guardian on June 30, 2007 at 12:40 AM

All we need to do is build a giant catapult (or cannon, I’m not picky) at Gitmo and use it to send them back where they came from. Justice and transport accomplished all in one go.

And we’ll know that it’s a waste of time to take the terrorist bastards alive from now on.

ReubenJCogburn on June 30, 2007 at 1:42 AM

A “win” would be to execute the lot of them, as they are all war criminals. Who really cares what the rest of the world thinks of us, anyways? They’re gonna love the babs and the oprahs, no matter what we do.
I say we do the right thing, that being we marinate them all in pork entrails, just before heading them out to the firing range, for a little “practice”.

ataloss on June 30, 2007 at 6:21 AM

Further proof of the pathetic libs (Democrats) being on the wrong side of this nation. I say all registered Dummiecraps get deported to Gitmo. Our country would be much better off without a doubt.

lynnv on June 30, 2007 at 7:57 AM

That picture still makes me laugh.

Blake on June 30, 2007 at 9:31 AM

This is what happens when a third of your base believes 9/11 was a hoax. And the others forget what they felt like that day. Or they don’t think it’s still a threat. It’s our fault, etc. These Dims just pander away to a base of lunatics in the hopes that it will get them somewhere. And maybe it’s enough to get them some attention from the MSM. But what happens when or if this ever happens again? It’s like if Silky somehow ever got the nomination. Is there any possible way he could come back enough from the far-left to get enough votes to considered a serious contender in a general election?

PowWow on June 30, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Blake on June 30, 2007 at 9:31

Me, too!

Especially me and my kid at the bottom of page 8 of the Gitmo Gallery!

paragon27x on June 30, 2007 at 3:31 PM

My brat is everything that I am not!

paragon27x on June 30, 2007 at 3:35 PM

He’s a really cool kid!

paragon27x on June 30, 2007 at 3:39 PM

Wade on June 29, 2007 at 9:13 PM

Even better!

Stevel on July 1, 2007 at 7:17 AM