Video: Ann Coulter gets a little verklempt on Morning Joe Update: ABC debases the political climate

posted at 12:15 pm on June 28, 2007 by Bryan

I have to say, I agree with Ann entirely on this.


I toyed with running a poll here the other day, question: “Who’s the sleaziest candidate for president in 2008?” But the answer is so obvious I didn’t bother. Of all the candidates in the running, only one is such an obvious hypocrite, such a lackluster huckster, and has so little actual rationale for his candidacy. John Edwards was a one-term senator who has built his entire political career on his hair on his accent. He looks purty and sounds Southern but he is an empty suit who has morphed into a limousine liberal with San Francisco values, if he has any values at all beyond ambulance-chasing and channeling dead kids to fool juries. He’s a coward who ran away from Fox News and sent his wife out to defend him, a cynical choice that pit a cancer survivor and sufferer against a woman that so many use to practice their daily Two Minutes Hate (though they stretch that to 24/7). He is everything Ann Coulter accuses him of being, and this spat that the Edwards camp has created with her is almost entirely about the fund-raising. And it’s working. It’s secondarily about casting Coulter as a practicioner of “hate speech,” thereby putting more and more criticism of people like Edwards out of bounds, and that’s probably working too, making the resurrection of the Orwellian “Fairness Doctrine” a little bit more possible with each passing day. So Edwards deserves whatever criticisms Coulter has leveled at him, to include accusing him of using the death of his son to promote his political career. No less a right-wing harridan than Bob Shrum has leveled that exact same accusation at him, but the Edwards camp is ignoring that entirely to focus on one of the nutroots’ favorite monsters. They’re cynical sleazebags. They should have won that poll I would have posted by acclamation.

More: I wrote this post in the midst of some site hiccups, so I didn’t get to say everything that I wanted to say. Edwards has the gall to get out there and trot his wife out there to talk about debasing the political climate, yet his campaign (and probably his wife) hired two of the most foul-mouthed, bigoted bloggers and only let them go once the heat got too intense for him, and even then he didn’t do the manly thing and fire them outright. He let them resign. He’s a weakling and a hypocrite. And, Mrs. Edwards posts at dKos and is known to slum at the DU, sites that are filled with visceral hate on a daily basis. So she’s a hypocrite too. They’re made for each other.

Edwards lives in a ginormous McMansion so large that it probably creates its own weather patterns, yet talks about “the poor” and plays up the “my daddy worked in a mill” schtick like he’s a man of the people. He gives $50,000 speeches to the poor about the poor, meanwhile he gets haircuts that cost as much as the new TV that “the poor” buy at Circuit City, and when criticized about the latter he turns that into a fundraising opportunity. His cynicism is only exceeded by his creepiness.

This guy wants to be president and go toe-to-toe with the likes of Putin and Ahmadinejad, but runs like a schoolgirl from Fox interviews (apologies to schoolgirls everywhere, I might add). There is no rationale for his candidacy beyond the lust for power and because he has nothing better to do.

That, more or less, is what I think of John Edwards and his candidacy for the presidency. Every time he shows up on MSNBC to bash Coulter and raise another pile of cash, he proves me right.

Update:
Yeah, Ann Coulter’s the problem alright. And MSM journalists aren’t biased, not at all. I guess that’s why these two from ABC want to see Ann Coulter in a “skinny death match.” While playing a certain Elton John song for an exit bump.

But back to Edwards, what we see in him is perhaps a first in history: The living incarnation of cynicism. He is 100% cynicism in human form. He makes Bill Clinton look sincere and he makes Dollar Bill Jefferson look ethical. There’s enough cynicism and in rank hypocrisy in John Edwards to shame and embarass Heidi Fleiss.

That is what I think of John Edwards.

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dead on as always. i think ann loves the attention, but not for the same reason as most people. she uses the attention she gets to point out the utter insipid rhetoric the left uses to bash her.

pmoshields on June 28, 2007 at 12:21 PM

Bryan, I’m a little shocked. Pleasantly surprised, yes, but surprised.

In the interest of full disclosure, I have bought every last one of Ann’s books in hardcover.

gryphon202 on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM

Right on.

Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM

It’s secondarily about casting Coulter as a practicioner of “hate speech,” thereby putting more and more criticism of people like Edwards out of bounds

Speaking of which (and I honestly don’t mean to tie this back in to Coulter calling Edwards the “F-word”), wasn’t there a push to pass a law that would have made the Bible hate speech because of its condemnation of homosexuality (ugh, I feel so stupid even using that term that seems to legitimize it)? Or was that just in Canada? Did it ever pass wherever it was? Anyone remember what I’m talking about?

RightWinged on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM

daily Two Minutes Hate

Love it. Anyone that’s ever read 1984 will understand that.

jdawg on June 28, 2007 at 12:23 PM

I haven’t even watched the clip and I’m pissed off by the juxtaposition of Ann’s photo and the “Nastiness in Politics” crawl.

If Ann Coulter says it, it’s nasty. If anyone else says it, it’s “a botched joke.”

But what do I know? I’m one of those extra-chromosome right-wingers who just doesn’t like Mexicans or anyone south of the border and supports our Nazi-like troops and favors policies that will kill more women and children.

Go Ann. I love you like Humpbot loves his multitester.

saint kansas on June 28, 2007 at 12:23 PM

Goddess speaks the truth as usual!

SouthernGent on June 28, 2007 at 12:24 PM

I love that word “Verklempt.” Always reminds me of Linda Richman and “Coffee Talk.” And it seems so appropros to Ann in this instance.

gryphon202 on June 28, 2007 at 12:24 PM

You have said it all Bryan.
I can’t think of anything else to add without getting really down and dirty.

OBX Pete on June 28, 2007 at 12:25 PM

I think she’s funny as hell. I heard one guy say…”throw a rock into a pack of dogs and the one you hit will yelp”. That’s the libs.

LtE126 on June 28, 2007 at 12:25 PM

I. Love. This. Woman.

Mig on June 28, 2007 at 12:27 PM

I have to say I agree with Ann and Bryan.

runt on June 28, 2007 at 12:28 PM

She finds it tiresome? – I find her brand of vacuous, underhanded polemic to be tiresome… She is to political discourse as Paris Hilton is to, err, well you get the point.

eminuu on June 28, 2007 at 12:28 PM

Turning the attention on Ann just aids the Orwellian tactics of the left. If it weren’t for the immigration vote today all the conservative commentators would be talking about whether or not she hould have said what she said. It happens all the time. “We have to be nice”, well they are kicking our teeth in and Ann is out there drawing them out time and again and she keeps being left hanging. Edwards will never go on Fox but how about questioning these other leftists about there tactics and keeping the heat on them?

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

peacenprosperity on June 28, 2007 at 12:28 PM

And by the way…I think Scarbourough is one of the biggest handjobs on TV.

LtE126 on June 28, 2007 at 12:29 PM

The Edwards’ did exactly what Ann wrote about in her last book. They trotted Mrs Edwards out there with her Victim Shild Status, to confront Ann. Ann does not allow people to hide behind such shields and after seeing the entire clip it amounted to nothing more then Ann taking something Bill Maher said and switching names. So while Bill is given a pass Ann is crucified.
I dare say that if a lot of Republican candidates simply took Democrats speeches and comments and changed the names or events a little there would be non stop cries of outrage. It does get tiring and it does get sickening.
And just to add to the hypocrisy everybody seems to have forgotten about the bloggers Edwards hired and then had to let go, but of course that was okay.
I hate the hypocrisy.

LakeRuins on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM

Ann’s totally right, and I support what she does. Every time she goes over the invisible line that the MSM erects she exposes some deeper truth about either the media or the object of her criticism.

But…um….Bryan…..

Just Say No to walls of text, please.

mjgreco on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM

Liberals are closed minded, bigotted, mean, irrational, uncivilized. Yet they turn the tables on conservatives and succed in making the opposite appear true.

What Elizabeth Edwards and Chris Matthews did was underhanded, cheap and sleazy and that should be all conservative commentators should say about it.

peacenprosperity on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM

I have no problem admitting that Ann goes over the line sometimes without really having a good reason to do so.

But she’s brillant, and the news seems to be going nuts over this recent comment that had nothing to do with Edwards and everything to do with liberal hypocrisy.

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 12:32 PM

whatever bryan, regardless of how outo context the last quote of hers was taken, there is little denying that she deals in hate for fame.

zane on June 28, 2007 at 12:33 PM

They attack Ann because she’s affective and that makes her dangerous to them. They never, ever turn that spotlight on the legions of true purveyors of hate on the left and that tells you all you need to know.

I’ve never read any of Ann’s books. On occasion I read her articles. I don’t think I have ever disagreed with her which is rare. She’s one of the few people I’d actually enjoy taking to lunch.

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2007 at 12:35 PM

after seeing the entire clip it amounted to nothing more then Ann taking something Bill Maher said and switching names.

LakeRuins on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM

Actually, it’s not even as bad as what Maher said.

Bill Maher sincerely wished Cheney had been killed.

Ann Coulter only said that in the future she will wish Edwards had been killed.

It wasn’t about Edwards at all.

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 12:35 PM

She is to political discourse…

I don’t think she is about political discourse. I think she is about making people think. That’s why she is an author. And the most heated discussions, you’ll note, are generally about her books. (Yes, I know she works as a talking head also)

Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 12:37 PM

At least unlike Hillary, Ann did pass the BAR exam and is a real lawyer who like Laura Ingraham clerked for a Supreme Court justice.
Who do the liberals have on their side other then a bunch of narcissitic high school dropouts?

LakeRuins on June 28, 2007 at 12:38 PM

I think Ann does have a good reason for going over the line sometimes, in that her point gets heard in the national media, not just in conservative circles. Of course, that helps her sell more books, but I’m all for her selling books to people who only read and hear alphabet news.
Now the dinosaur media is trying to have the firestorm while omitting the point, but at least those who sense the one-sidedness and want to know the whole story can find it.

NellE on June 28, 2007 at 12:40 PM

I use to watch Joe Scarborough about 5 years ago for about a year and used to really like him. He had that great segment “There They Go Again,” were he went after the pretzel logic on the far left. But in the last few years he must have succumbed to dominant left wing mindset that prevails at MSNBC. He’s become a real sellout in other words. Anybody esle notice his change over the last couple of years or I a miss on this?

Irenaeus on June 28, 2007 at 12:40 PM

About 4 years ago, the dimz and left were SOOOO excited about…

Kerry/Edwards.

This is the same edwards. The one that America voted against almost 2:1 over Bush.

Kerry and Edwards represent FAILURE for the demz. Eddie represents a loser.

Mazztek on June 28, 2007 at 12:41 PM

Ann is correct, but then when is she not.

MarkB on June 28, 2007 at 12:41 PM

First MSNBC should be on their knees thanking Coulter for the boost in ratings when ever she appears. Second, I don’t know why she gets upset at the liberal “labels” thrown her way. Name calling is the only form of debate liberals know. Case in point:

Conservative: I’m tired of working my ass off to support 12 million people living in my country illegally.

Liberal: You’re a racist!

repvoter on June 28, 2007 at 12:42 PM

You are spot on with this post Bryan. I watch Matthews all the time, not because I like him but because I detest him. He is far worse in my estimation than Olberman because he insists that he has no bias and he seems to get away with it. Think Republican primary debate.

I watched the night he had Shrummy on right after he had released his book. Matthews questioned him about his slams on Edwards but in a very mild, questioning mode. Contrast that with the absolute hatchet job he pulled on Coulter the other night, a night when he called her supporters in the crowd like a crowd from Deliverance. I have never seen Matthews let someone call in like that and then continually interupt Coulter asking her to let Edwards finish making her speech. He also failed to state that he continually refers to Mrs. Edwards as his favorite and would vote for her for President in a heartbeat.

It was a joke. Never once did Matthews address the context of Coulter’s remarks. No mention was made of Maher and his joking about how sad it was that Cheney wasn’t assasinated. It was a disgusting example of the most partisan type of hatchet job.

Fairness doctrine indeed.

JackStraw on June 28, 2007 at 12:42 PM

zane on June 28, 2007 at 12:33 PM

She tells the truth. The Left can’t compete with her on the merits so they do what they always do, attack the messenger. Some on the Right fear the consequences of speaking the truth in such a blunt way and throw her to the wolves for it so they can continue to fight in a more politically correct way.

“I’ve never seen people avoid ideas so much in such an obvious way.”

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2007 at 12:43 PM

I think even the most delusional hippie could see through Edwards phony veneer, his supporters are only there because of their agenda. In reality he has no chance, if he were nominated, with the spotlight squarley on him and his snake oil salesman history, he’d crumble. In fact, we should be rooting for him to get the nomination.

bmac on June 28, 2007 at 12:45 PM

’I’ve never read any of Ann’s books. On occasion I read her articles. I don’t think I have ever disagreed with her which is rare. She’s one of the few people I’d actually enjoy taking to lunch.

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2007 at 12:35 PM

The first book of hers I read was “Treason”, which my teenaged daughter bought for me. It is about McCarthy and the whole communist under every rock era, as it is now protrayed. Extensively footnoted and resourced and IMHO a must read for anybody wanting to be informed about what was actually going on during the McCarthy era which has led to his name being associated with withc hunts.
I have read a couple of her other books which do tend to tackle more political issues so I leave that up to your personnel taste.
What I liked about “Treason” is that she did not just throw out something represented as fact with no back up unlike so many documentarians and book sellers nowadays do. She doesn’t make a claim that isn’t cross referenced in the public record, so you don’t have to take her word for it.

Anyway my 2¢s; for what it is worth.

LakeRuins on June 28, 2007 at 12:45 PM

My Yiddish is a little rusty…. had to lookup: verklempt

Maxx on June 28, 2007 at 12:45 PM

Did Edwards pay MSNBC for that Hardball show?

Cuz it really does seem to be an infomercial for Little Johnny Edwards and his self-proclaimed cancer-ridden wife and failing campaign.

Matthews is the Joe Franklin of cable tv. He might as well be on public access, the douche.

benrand on June 28, 2007 at 12:46 PM

Irenaeus on June 28, 2007 at 12:40 PM

You have to understand what happened to Joe. He got busted shilling for his law firm on the air, w/o proper disclosure re: a class action law suit against makers of pressure treated lumber. He got busted. Had to do a mea culpa on the air and switch his politics to keep his job. You can trace his change to that week.

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2007 at 12:46 PM

Someone help Edwards up off the ground and explain what just hit him.

Bryan, as always, you’re just the man!

sleestak on June 28, 2007 at 12:50 PM

man, the left on WISHES it could find a woman for their side who was not afraid to go toe to toe with men and still have wit, appeal, and smarts.

wryteacher on June 28, 2007 at 12:53 PM

You ROCK Bryan! Love this post!

heatherrc77 on June 28, 2007 at 12:55 PM

Many on the left are the culture of hate. It’s a fact.
They really have nothing else, so they spread hate.
Eerily, it reminds me of islamofascists…same tactics with less violence.

If you stop to think that John Kerry, yes the same 3 fake medals, troop hating, botched joke himself Kerry had a bad gut feeling about Edwards when they met…how bad is the guy?
If the ketchup man himself is put off, I mean wow.
Edwards might be the “sleaziest” …person. Not just sleaziest candidate, but he’s got to be in the nations top 10 sleazebags overall.
If the shoe hair fits….

shooter on June 28, 2007 at 12:56 PM

I-PHONE FOR BRYAN !!!!

shooter on June 28, 2007 at 12:58 PM

zane on June 28, 2007 at 12:33 PM

i love it. when someone points out hypocrisy, using facts and logic, its called “hate”. is she abrasive, absolutely. the truth hurts, and ann knows it. she puts it in the most hurtful way possible. she has no use for buttering things up.

wah wah, ann hurt my feelings

pmoshields on June 28, 2007 at 12:59 PM

…was a one-term senator who has built his entire political career on his hair on his accent. He looks purty and sounds Southern but he is an empty suit …

Must every post here be about fred?

Heehee I kid I kid

e-pirate on June 28, 2007 at 1:02 PM

She made her own bed, regardless, of if she is right on this issue.

tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:07 PM

BTW, the night Maher was defending the Cheney assasination stuff on the Hunnington Post, two of the guests were the loathsome Barney Frank and yup, Joe Scarborough.

Scarborough knows exactly what Coulter was referring to.

JackStraw on June 28, 2007 at 1:07 PM

She mud wrestles, she deal in hate. Two comments I read in this post.

How about calling it as it is? The naked truth. As for shock value, it’s tame when compared to liberal shock value. Edwards represents the worst in todays politicians. Pandering for the sympathy vote. A shameful disregard for everyone around him just to stroke his own ego.

AC writes and speaks about what the left cannot defend or argue against. Exposing the hypocrisy and self serving idiocy is what she does best. That’s not hate, that’s transparency – naked truth -

Kini on June 28, 2007 at 1:10 PM

whatever bryan, regardless of how outo context the last quote of hers was taken, there is little denying that she deals in hate for fame.

zane on June 28, 2007 at 12:33 PM

Love that meme “there is little denying…” see it four, five times a week, along with its siblings: “experts agree,” and “studies SUGGEST…”
Calling a spade a spade is not hate. It’s just blunt.

naliaka on June 28, 2007 at 1:12 PM

Yeah, Brian, this is all good, but how do you really feel about Edwards?

Grantman on June 28, 2007 at 1:15 PM

Edwards lives in a ginormous McMansion so large that it probably creates its own weather patterns,

Whoo-hoo! Haha!

Sadly, it was built on the ruined careers of obstetricians, run out of business by crushing insurance costs, raised to cover outrageously high punitive damages. Thanks, Edwards, now American women have fewer choices for doctors to deliver their babies. A house the size of a resort for four people …

naliaka on June 28, 2007 at 1:16 PM

Anybody else remember this?

Ann must get a headache watching support for her right to speak freely without absurd distortions swing back and forth, even among people who align ideologically with her.

rho on June 28, 2007 at 1:17 PM

While I liked and totally agreed with what she said, the fact that she wasn’t in the room made the way she was holding forth at such length, as Scarborough tried to cut in–he was able to make her come off as long-winded, and not interested in what other people have to say. Which is of course how they always try to portray her. I wish she had asked him pointed questions in order to get her point across. “Did you see the whole clip, Joe?” “How many references were there to wishing someone had been killed?” “Two. Right, mine, and the other one was by whom?” “Why wasn’t he vilified, et.” She could have made HIM say it. The one asking the questions is the one who controls the conversation.

smellthecoffee on June 28, 2007 at 1:23 PM

Extremely well written Bryan. Bravo!

infidel4life on June 28, 2007 at 1:25 PM

naliaka on June 28, 2007 at 1:16 PM

good points. plus…
I wonder, maybe someone will do this research, but what has the ‘Edwards Factor’ done to America? How much has he cost the average American with his ambulance chasing and frivolous, yet selfishly profitable, law suits? Lost doctors, higher doctors/hospitals malpractice premiums, health insurance for you and me, how about a small business ( 10 people or less) and the premiums that they must now pay?
How many more go uninsured because of this high cost vs. 20 years ago? I cant pay for my employees insurance any more. A percentage yes, after some dedicated service to the company, but nowhere near 100%.
Thanks Edwards and ambo-chasers like you. Small businesses are at a huge disadvantage to large conglomerates that can pay for insurance. Edwards and his ilk have done more damage than we know. Yet they bash anyone who might tell the truth. (rhymes with clinton)

shooter on June 28, 2007 at 1:34 PM

She is a brilliant, ballsy woman. But still, it’s gotta hurt somewhere deep inside to have people constantly bashing, badmouthing and lying about you.

Kalifornia Kafir on June 28, 2007 at 1:38 PM

there is little denying that she deals in hate for fame.
zane on June 28, 2007 at 12:33 PM

Guess we have to put up with this foolishness for a few weeks.

Using their (liberals) speech against them is hate? Having to defend yourself against liberals taking your “speak” out of context is hate?

Throwing it back into their face is not hate, it is retribution. And you liberals can’t take the heat, a bunch of whiners.

So now we are developing a list of potential trolls that came in when HA left the door open.

Zane
Sinner

And no, not because you disagree, it is because you made absurd comments that are waaaaay off base, and it exposes your bias.

right2bright on June 28, 2007 at 1:38 PM

I actually don’t think that Ann Coulter “deals in hate.” She deals in conscious hyperbole, which is very different from dealing in real hate. Sometimes she goes over the line, and we among others call her on it when she does. But the accusation that she “deals in hate” is a false one, imho.

If you want to see real, live hate, just head over to two of the Edwards’ favorite sites–dKos and DU. There’s enough hate energy on those two sites to power NYC for a decade. Then head over to the two sites that are run by the Edwards’ former official bloggers. Nothin’ but hate.

Bryan on June 28, 2007 at 1:51 PM

Damn! Dennis Miller can’t bring no smoke on you.

BohicaTwentyTwo on June 28, 2007 at 1:53 PM

Excellent post Bryan.

student on June 28, 2007 at 1:54 PM

I love Ann in her role as Rush’s VP on ‘The 1/2 Hour Newshour’ – Rush couldn’t have made a better choice. The Libs can say what they like about her, but they deserve every bit the pummeling she gives them.

Everybody knows that had she been a Liberal, she would have been a cause celeb with their crowd. Just look at Bill Maher

infidelpride on June 28, 2007 at 1:55 PM

I wonder if Lizzy ever gave this guy the apology he requested?

jeffNWV on June 28, 2007 at 1:57 PM

However, I disagree with the contendtion that Edwards is the biggest hypocrite. Both Hilary – with her attacks on Obama & Edwards for the very things that she does – and McCain, who supports rights of terrorists @ Gitmo over those of Americans running ads 60 days before an election – have more double standards than Edwards does.

infidelpride on June 28, 2007 at 1:59 PM

Personally, I want the Edwards campaign to thrive so all of America can see what a two-faced hypcrite he really is and who his biggest supporters are. It’s going to be like turning the lights on in a room full of cockroaches.

swami on June 28, 2007 at 2:03 PM

The problem I always had with AC is not what she says but how she says it. Some of her columns were absolutely amateurish in their writing style and it showed a lack of professionalism.

But I’m on her side with this one. Edwards picked a fight with her then sent his wife out to fight it.

Nethicus on June 28, 2007 at 2:07 PM

But back to Edwards, what we see in him is perhaps a first in history: The living incarnation of cynicism. He is 100% cynicism in human form. He makes Bill Clinton look sincere and he makes Dollar Bill Jefferson look ethical. There’s enough cynicism and in rank hypocrisy in John Edwards to shame and embarass Heidi Fleiss.

That is what I think of John Edwards.

I wish you’d quit beating around the bush, Bryan! Heh.

CP on June 28, 2007 at 2:10 PM

I wonder, maybe someone will do this research, but what has the ‘Edwards Factor’ done to America? How much has he cost the average American with his ambulance chasing and frivolous, yet selfishly profitable, law suits? Lost doctors, higher doctors/hospitals malpractice premiums, health insurance for you and me, how about a small business ( 10 people or less) and the premiums that they must now pay?
shooter on June 28, 2007 at 1:34 PM

Someone may have the numbers, but antecdotally, our family lost the obstetrician we were using precisely because of malpractice insurance costs. We have the letter from the medical group explaining why the most experienced and most liked members of their practice quit (doctors with solid practices and excellent track records). We started with the doctor and finished with a less experienced associate. Do not see how medical care improved for the American female, child-bearing public by lawyers only interested in jacking up punitive damages high enough so that they can get a good cut for themselves.
Wealth takers, not wealth-makers.

naliaka on June 28, 2007 at 2:11 PM

So Bryan, you are leaning against voting for Edwards?

AndrewsDad on June 28, 2007 at 2:13 PM

So Bryan, you are leaning against voting for Edwards?

AndrewsDad on June 28, 2007 at 2:13 PM

In a manner of speaking, yeah. Leaning.

Bryan on June 28, 2007 at 2:14 PM

it is amazing how silky wants universal health care because our health care system is broken, when he put his 110% into breaking it

pmoshields on June 28, 2007 at 2:16 PM

Zane
Sinner

right2bright on June 28, 2007 at 1:38 PM

Fragility (other threads)

But…um….Bryan…..

Just Say No to walls of text, please.

mjgreco on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM

I say Yes to walls of Smackdown. Thanks, BP!

RushBaby on June 28, 2007 at 2:23 PM

Bryan, you should really stop holding back and let us know what you really think.

As a citizen of NC, Edwards embarrasses me no end – period.

PJ Emeritus on June 28, 2007 at 2:29 PM

I agree, Bryan… There’s nothing hayeful about anything she writes or states. She’s just correct to a degree that thumpms ‘em between the eyes and stings for a good long time.

Great post, by the way… Very thorough and, although much more verbose than usual, very concise. Good job…! Thank you.

Rugged Individual on June 28, 2007 at 2:29 PM

hateful*
Thumps ‘em*

Rugged Individual on June 28, 2007 at 2:31 PM

Awesome post Bryan, Keep up the good work. I liked the lead out on that YT video, Just goes to show how wacked the MSM really is.

KCtheKat on June 28, 2007 at 2:34 PM

Wow, Ann is even more intense when she’s angry.

Dare I to say that I like her even more this way.

Ann, do not surrender an inch.

JayHaw Phrenzie on June 28, 2007 at 2:34 PM

It’s just math to me, Ann says things with brute honesty. She points out the hypocrisy of the liberals and progressives. When Ann says something, sometimes rather coarsly, she is honest, almost always factual, and with the most brilliant examples. The liberals, and progressives use the foulest lies, most irresponsible behaviour, and flagarant law breaking. Yet there are those faux-conservatives that condemn her for a pittance of PC points and quite sadly look past the real horror.

Those that condemn Ann to score their 30 pieces of PC points with the abomination that has become the MSM, liberal elites, and progressives are basically just tigers of a different stripe.

So which is worse, being honest but coarse, or selling out your ideals for a few PC points?

Pretty simple math to me.

Rode Werk on June 28, 2007 at 2:37 PM

Anybody else remember this?

Ann must get a headache watching support for her right to speak freely without absurd distortions swing back and forth, even among people who align ideologically with her.

rho on June 28, 2007 at 1:17 PM

No one was denying her right to speak freely on that post. Bryan and others were only upset that she said what she said and that CPAC paid her to say it.

There is a difference between trying to silence someone and getting upset at what is said during a sponsored speach.

If you can’t tell the difference, then you have bigger problems than caring whether or not Bryan liked what she said at CPAC.

And last, many people think Ann went over the line with her CPAC comment. They have the right to that opinion just like Ann has the right to hers.

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 2:43 PM

That is what I think of John Edwards.

The above section should have been read aloud with appropriate tone, accompanying music and a cheering crowd towards the end.

Very impressive, Bryan.

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 2:49 PM

Ann Coulter: Doing the job conservative men won’t do.

bmac on June 28, 2007 at 2:50 PM

Conservative: I’m tired of working my ass off to support 12 million people living in my country illegally.

Liberal: You’re a racist!

Uhmmm… I guess those lazy illegals standing in the Home Depot parking lot want to just sit around and drink lemonade?

Yes, 1) they’re breaking the law and 2) they should be deported and 3) anyone hiring them should be fined… but the quote above implies they aren’t hard workers.

israelcsus on June 28, 2007 at 2:50 PM

If you really want to see mud slinging, try reading what Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, John Quincy Adams, and their opponents said in their editorials.

Kind of funny how our language has actually devolved, and one of our most cherished freedoms has been usurped by the PC god that many in all forms of the media have bowed down to.

Rode Werk on June 28, 2007 at 2:50 PM

Bryan,
Next time, don’t hold anything back. Let us know what you really think.
Also, I agree, The Dems make money off of Ann. It is a game to them and they are laughing all the way to the bank.

Guest1.1 on June 28, 2007 at 2:52 PM

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 2:43 PM

Thousands of interviews, hundreds of speeches, several books, literally thousands of pundits mis-quoting her, and it all comes down to one quote, one sentence that did not sit right with most people.

“I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot–so….’”

If we could all write, speak, interview as often and be known for one or two wrong statements, we would all be known as a great orators.

Eating words has never given me indigestion.
–Winston Churchill

right2bright on June 28, 2007 at 2:57 PM

I don’t understand the brilliance of Coulter.

From that MSNBC show, towards the end of E. Edwards’ call:

EE: I’m making this call as a mother. I’m the mother of that boy who died. My children participate — these young people behind you are the age of my children. You’re asking them to participate in a dialogue that’s based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues and I don’t think that’s serving them or this country very well.

to what Coulter replies:

AC: I think we heard all we need to hear. The wife of a presidential candidate is asking me to stop speaking. No.

So either Coulter cannot debate the issues without personal attacks and being plain ugly, or she’s a complete moron who didn’t understand what E. Edwards was saying.

On second thought, the most likely scenario is that she really has no interest in debate, but rather only in making outrageous, hateful comments which will generate ratings.

Why is she the darling of the right when Michelle Malkin is much better composed and a class way above Coulter?

israelcsus on June 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM

Yes, 1) they’re breaking the law and 2) they should be deported and 3) anyone hiring them should be fined… but the quote above implies they aren’t hard workers.

israelcsus on June 28, 2007 at 2:50 PM

Hard workers or not, they don’t earn enough to contribute to the economy and do cost legal Americans money.

Also, not all of them do work. Some of them are just children who do little more than get a paid-for education which they do not pay for.

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 3:10 PM

“getting a little tiresome”? Please. She does it on purpose and loves the reaction she gets. She’d have a lot more credibility if she would cop to that. Is she working for Edwards now? Because she sure helped him raise money.

B26354 on June 28, 2007 at 3:10 PM

isrealcsus… You are a moron.

bmac on June 28, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Bravo! That’s quite a spanking you gave Silky, I’m pretty sure it’s going to leave a mark.

I found myself shouting Yea, Yea in my head with each wonderfully articulated sentence.

SPOT ON O’Great One.

silenced majority on June 28, 2007 at 3:14 PM

So either Coulter cannot debate the issues without personal attacks and being plain ugly, or she’s a complete moron who didn’t understand what E. Edwards was saying.

israelcsus on June 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM

No, you’re completely missing the point.

In this specific instance, Coulter WASN’T insulting Edwards, not. at. all.

Therefore, for the Mrs. to come and tell Coulter to stop is for the Mrs. to tell Coulter that she should stop altogether since Coulter wasn’t even doing anything “mean” at the time in question.

If Coulter must judge her work as “mean” based on Mrs. interpretation, then yes, Coulter will have to stop speaking.

Also, Coulter isn’t the darling of the Right. Look around, the first ones to denounce her are usually conservatives.

She does however have a loyal following from people who enjoy her approach to liberals.

And before you write off Coulter in favor of Malkin, you should remember that the same exact things being said of Coulter have also been repeatedly said of Malkin. Even though Malkin is herself a minority, she’s labelled a racist who is “mean” to her opponents.

There’s no winning this fight.

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Man, tell us how you really feel, Bryan!
“Lackluster huckster”…absolutely brilliant! Michelle should give you the rest of the day off, with pay. I’m sure Ann will grin from ear to ear when she reads this tour de force.
In fact, this post may be Edwards 08 fundraising-worthy – but don’t let that stop you.

Dork B. on June 28, 2007 at 3:15 PM

israelcsus on June 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM

please, she was obviously annoyed that with matthews sandbagging her with the phone call. and again, none of her comments are hateful. outrageous, only in their presentation.

pmoshields on June 28, 2007 at 3:16 PM

Someone help Edwards up off the ground and explain what just hit him.

sleestak on June 28, 2007 at 12:50 PM

Thanks for the chuckle.

silenced majority on June 28, 2007 at 3:21 PM

If Ann ever decides to switch careers, she could make a mint as a Dominatrix. But beware of that razor-sharp tongue…Ouch! It’s the sharpest in the West.

Go Ann! We love watching the liberals cower.

Lance on June 28, 2007 at 3:25 PM

israelcsus on June 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM

Oh man, we have to put up with this stuff until they are weeded out. They being the stupid.

First, what Edwards wife was complaining about, the most recent statement, did not happen. It was a fabrication, even you know that, but are to full of hate to see it, or too stupid to research it.

Second, why should Coulter respond to a wife, Edwards has already stated that his family is off limits, then he injects his wife into a cat fight on TV. And a side note, he can’t fight the fight? Some leader!

Third, it was an ambush, and Coulter (and anyone else) does not like to be ambushed…do you think Edwards just happended to be on the line and just happended to get through?

Fourth, Edwards hired the two most vicous people you could imagine to run his web campaign…where was your outrage then?

There is more, but others get the idea…you won’t.

Edwards wife would do more good for society if she walked across the street and gave her neighbors some home baked cookies and became a good neighbor. Get it?

right2bright on June 28, 2007 at 3:27 PM

israelcsus on June 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM

You chastise Ann for making personal attacks by calling her a “Moron”.

Now that you have destroyed anything resembing credibility, why should anycone care about your opinion.

isrealcsus… You are a moron.

bmac on June 28, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Agreed.

JayHaw Phrenzie on June 28, 2007 at 3:28 PM

So now we are developing a list of potential trolls that came in when HA left the door open.

Zane
Sinner

right2bright on June 28, 2007 at 1:38 PM

Don’t forget to add:

Bryan
Allahpundit
Michelle Malkin

Hey r2b, ever think that YOU might be the troll?

The Sinner on June 28, 2007 at 3:29 PM

Is she working for Edwards now? Because she sure helped him raise money.

B26354 on June 28, 2007 at 3:10 PM

So did his 400 dollar hair cut.

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 3:32 PM

but the quote above implies they aren’t hard workers.
israelcsus on June 28, 2007 at 2:50 PM

No, it means we have to support them. Feed their kids with lunch programs, pay for their kids education because they do not pay into the system, pay for their health care and then family assistance.

Hence the statement of “working my ass off to support them…”

right2bright on June 28, 2007 at 3:33 PM

I love Ann’s spunk, though the woman could stand to scarf down a sandwich or eighteen.

I loved the job she did on Silky during the ’04 election when she described him as a huckster tent preacher, in response to his appalling embryonic stem cell speech.

Which brings to mind another one of Fancy Johnny’s hypocrisies. I wonder if he ever paid all that money back to that obstetrician after he “got religion” on embryonic stem cells? After all, Fancy Johnny got all that money for convincing everybody in court that unborn babies were people, but now he obviously doesn’t believe that’s true anymore.

angryoldfatman on June 28, 2007 at 3:34 PM

Hey r2b, ever think that YOU might be the troll?

The Sinner on June 28, 2007 at 3:29 PM

Wow, that’s a comeback worthy of Pee Wee’s fun house.

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 3:34 PM

“I know you are, but what am I?”

Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 3:35 PM

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