David “Idiot Liberals” Obey: These right-wing talk-radio morons must remain free
posted at 8:27 pm on June 28, 2007 by Allahpundit
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He got his wish: 309-115, although I suspect the vote will be a shade more “nuanced” if and when they revisit this issue with a Democrat in the White House. Then again, if Bush was willing to push shamnesty, why wouldn’t he be willing to push this?
Many thanks to our pal Captain Ed for the tip on the clip. He liveblogged the whole debate.
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Yeah, because the influence of bloggers and talk radio played no role in the failed shamnesty bill right?
RightWinged on June 28, 2007 at 8:32 PM
Considering Rush Limbaugh is disliked by more than 60% of the American people, “regulating” him isn’t necessary, now is it?
Hannity’s just a tool. No one in politics is more deserving of that designation. And then people like Savage just help us anyway.
So agreed.
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 8:32 PM
Where did you get that # from?
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 8:33 PM
Again, I sadly have to ask, how on earth could a simpleton like this hold a job in national politics?
uptight on June 28, 2007 at 8:33 PM
“Yap Yap TV” is baby talk. And this guy’s logic is juevenile.
It’s like watching a guy have a stroke on live TV.
Mindcrime on June 28, 2007 at 8:34 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/politicians_earn_higher_favorable_ratings_than_journalists
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 8:34 PM
Liberals are sooooo smart.
I fear them.
:-)
BobH on June 28, 2007 at 8:34 PM
Rush the largest radio audience in history.
90% of all statistics are pulled from the ass.
You do the math.
Mindcrime on June 28, 2007 at 8:34 PM
Obey provides 90% of all statistics?
Wow.
BobH on June 28, 2007 at 8:36 PM
What do you mean “us,” pale-face?
frankj on June 28, 2007 at 8:36 PM
Yeah, just like all the polls heading in 2006 that said you were going to lose the elections, right?
All those polls were bullsh… oh wait
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 8:36 PM
Talking Head Cheese.
Live from the Dairy State.
bbz123 on June 28, 2007 at 8:37 PM
Thanks. Would you mind answering my question from last night in the other thread (on the other thread - it’s still on the front page)?
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 8:38 PM
Yeah, Rush has no influence. Hannity has no influence. Boortz has no influence. Mark Levin has no influence….
etc.etc.
Keep that head firmly up your a$$, congresscritter. We like it that way.
But then, I no longer listen to much radio, in favor of internet. HotAir, you are my home, and a major source for me. Fantastic job, Guys! You are especially to be congratulated on the Shamnesty Victory!! We needed info, you gave it to us. We talked together and decided to fight.
And we WON! I’m so proud to be among you all!
tickleddragon on June 28, 2007 at 8:40 PM
He’s a troll. He just comes and he trolls to get attention. He doesn’t answer questions or debates in a logical, reasonable fashion… he trolls.
That’s what trolls do.
Only engage the troll if you’re bored and want some fun from batting around a troll. Don’t expect to trap him in a corner and make admit his foolishness, though; that’s just not how trolls work.
frankj on June 28, 2007 at 8:41 PM
Oh MAN!!! What is this guy smokin’?!?!?!?!?!?!
CrimsonFisted on June 28, 2007 at 8:42 PM
Sigh. I don’t remember Wisconsin politics being so insane 5 years ago, but what’s a kid from Madison to do…
BadgerHawk on June 28, 2007 at 8:43 PM
I realized after the fact that I inadvertantly engaged the troll. Oh well, even liberal moonbats are welcome here I guess. Unlike the left, I don’t think any of us are interested in censorship to quash unpopular opinions.
Mindcrime on June 28, 2007 at 8:44 PM
It’s still beyond me why liberals claim to be for free speech when it’s obvious they are not.
SouthernGent on June 28, 2007 at 8:45 PM
Gee, who hypes Paris and puts down talk radio?
Speakup on June 28, 2007 at 8:50 PM
Yeah, I was just giving him a chance to answer a fair question in a fair manner since it was late. But I hear ya.
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 8:51 PM
I have not listened to Rush in years. Not because I don’t want to, it’s a job thing. I may have to figure out a way to have a listen if he is getting them this worked up. Rush and the other radio show hosts had nothing to do with my phone calls and emails to Bonds office. It was all hot airs fault so watch yourselves.
kahall on June 28, 2007 at 8:52 PM
Then why did I provide a link to answer the first question directed at me? Pay attention.
And which question is that? Were you the smartass with the sneering “Is Bin Laden YOUR enemy”? Yeah, obviously.
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 8:52 PM
Let’s not be so negative. Obey seems to be fairly reasonable man for someone so leftist. We should Obey luck in being a missionary of Reason (or least Reason’s second cousin twice removed) to the moonbats.
thuja on June 28, 2007 at 8:53 PM
BadgerHawk, I was in Madtown in the early 70s during the “Free Karl” days, and it was plenty wacky back then.
bbz123 on June 28, 2007 at 8:54 PM
I assume that you didn’t go back there then.
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 8:55 PM
If “there was a fiercely liberal press that dominated the country, they would be running, kicking and screaming, demanding a Fairness Doctrine”.
Wrong, jackass. The right is more willing to slug it out and let ideas speak for themselves while the left cries to daddy, “Make them be quiet!”
Also, is it me or does this guy sound like Phil Harris?
MikeZero on June 28, 2007 at 8:56 PM
Wouldn’t you admit, Fragility, that half the people who give any kind of negative do so because they are programmed to? I would say that most people who give Rush a negative number have never listened to him, but instead are going based upon the negative press he gets (often based upon out-of-context quotes or other ‘information’ that is used in hit pieces in the dinosaur media). All you have to do to realize where the public is in terms of media savvy is to watch when Leno does his ‘man on the street’ bit on the Tonight Show.
That said, I think everyone you mentioned is just fine. If you don’t like them, then don’t listen to them. They will do just fine anyway. It is only a bunch of Stalinist tools who try to suppress the speech of others they can’t compete with in the marketplace of ideas. Why is there still a PBS or NPR? Why do they get to forcibly take my money to spew their leftist political speech? It has been years since they started saying how they have to fund everything with less public money… but they still get at least half their budgets by confiscating it from the taxpayers.
Abu Daboo Doo on June 28, 2007 at 8:56 PM
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 9:05 PM
Yes, I am happy that this “craziness Fairness” stuff got defeated.
Yes, I am happy that sham-nesty was defeated.
Yes, I am happy that the mainstream media lately have been emphasizing the fact of the open and porous border as a major reason why sham-nesty failed in the Senate.
But I refuse to celebrate, and I refuse to be joyful.
Why?
Allah still has not received his iphone yet.
Folks, we need to call MM: give Allah his phone!!!
ColtsFan on June 28, 2007 at 9:07 PM
Abu Daboo Doo is correct. I hated the idea of talk radio years ago until I started listening and then I was hooked and Rush became the porgram to look forward to.
warpmine on June 28, 2007 at 9:07 PM
Hey Fragility:
I went a little further into that link you provided; and when looking at the internals (and I am not an expert at this so I can be corrected) it seems a bit unbalanced. It is also a nation wide poll on only 800 people covering about 30 different people. I wouldn’t put too much stock in that 60% being accurate.
Weight of Glory on June 28, 2007 at 9:09 PM
Fact: Making hand motion parenthesis repeatedly really makes you look smart, and makes your argument that much truer.
Emilie H. on June 28, 2007 at 9:09 PM
B/C we need a Redeye clip?
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 9:10 PM
Rasmussen is the best pollster in the country. And by “unbalanced”, you’re referring to what?
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 9:12 PM
He’s competing for moron-of-the-day with Tommy Chong.
infidel4life on June 28, 2007 at 9:12 PM
Good then that is settled.
I smell some house cleaning coming to a congress near you!
TheSitRep on June 28, 2007 at 9:17 PM
This cretin just doesn’t know when to shut up.
rplat on June 28, 2007 at 9:18 PM
Uh oh, it looks like SEan Hannity is lying about Obey. He’s claiming on H&C that Obey supports the fairness doctrine.
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 9:18 PM
Who is this guy ? Joke. If you say Sean/Rush, everybody knows who you are taking about. If you say David or Obey you will get a blank look.
SIJ6141 on June 28, 2007 at 9:19 PM
There. Was. A.
..time when I didn’t talk like this, but I had to change that for our voter base.
Teddy on June 28, 2007 at 9:21 PM
I suspect Rush is going to have a lot of fun with this tomorrow.
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 9:21 PM
Am I missing something here or what? Is Obey against the Fairness Doctrine or for it? Because Fox News, both COlmes and Hannity, are claiming that he’s for it.
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 9:22 PM
No. It’s more, “Anyone who wants to use government guns to shut up people who disagree with them is obviously a Stalinist.”
Nuance.
Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on June 28, 2007 at 9:23 PM
Rush is not all talk radio, neither is Hannity. There is Savage, Medved, Bennet, Smerconish, Beck. and it goes on and on! A whole days worth of talk radio.
It’s yakyak TV that caught my attention. Who’s he talking about, let’s see, Oprah, Dr. Phil, Tyra Banks (hubba), Maury???!
Not quite the bastion of intelligent
designconversation.Letting my imagination go where no intelligence has gone before.
Kini on June 28, 2007 at 9:24 PM
what do you mean by “best”?
Weight of Glory on June 28, 2007 at 9:25 PM
Because lies and hypocrisy are essential elements of liberalism?
ReubenJCogburn on June 28, 2007 at 9:26 PM
Is that a serious question? Obviously I mean “the most accurate”.
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 9:26 PM
Love the screen-cap. He’s doing scare quotes. Classic liberal snobbism, it’s one of the first things they teach you when you get to college. It’s the academic’s version of a sneer.
smellthecoffee on June 28, 2007 at 9:26 PM
Geeez! I was simply asking for clarification, no need to get all pissy. To say something is the “best” leaves the door open to all sorts of hermeneutical paradigms, allowing for all manner of interpretations to be brought forth. I was merely asking you to narrow your brush a little.
Weight of Glory on June 28, 2007 at 9:30 PM
by the way, your the best!
Weight of Glory on June 28, 2007 at 9:31 PM
So according to Obey’s own (il)logic: Since democrats/liberals are not going bonkers over the NEED to apply the Fairness Doctrine to ANY other form of media (other than talk radio), then they must be satisfied with their control over those outlets.
I get it……(yawn)….
nottakingsides on June 28, 2007 at 9:31 PM
lol
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 9:31 PM
yourthe bestyou’re the best. gosh my English teacher mom would be pissed if she saw me type that!
Weight of Glory on June 28, 2007 at 9:34 PM
Rush is disliked by more than 60% of the American people? I think what he ment to say was 60% of the U.S. Senate.
repvoter on June 28, 2007 at 9:34 PM
I take exception with any pollsters numbers. I’ve never been polled by any of these agencies. I think their results are far too narrow to be anywhere accurate less than 40-50%. Look at Katie Couric’s numbers? I just don’t believe it’s accurate at all since she is loosing market share quicker than advertisers and newspaper subscriptions.
Polling science is more like democratic decisions.
Stick a wet finger in the air, and see which way the wind blows.
Kini on June 28, 2007 at 9:35 PM
Hey, Allah, why don’t you update the thread with a video clip of H&C cutting up Obey’s quote to make it look like he supported the fairness doctrine?
Oh wait, that might demonstrate something conservatives don’t want to concede. That Fox News is dishonest.
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 9:35 PM
Yeah, and Kerry won the exit polls in 2004, those were accur… oh wait
BKennedy on June 28, 2007 at 9:36 PM
This is the guy that controls 2.9 trillion dollars?
think about that… We are doomed.
unseen on June 28, 2007 at 9:36 PM
Good thing for me I was talking about opinion polls before the election. Otherwise that might have been a good response. Unfortunately, it’s a terrible one.
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 9:38 PM
Obey must have hit the fermented cheese hard before he gave us that shining monologue. I guess his staccato delivery was due to reading a teleprompter with words scrolling slowly so… he.. could… figure… out… how… to… enunciate… them.
linlithgow on June 28, 2007 at 9:38 PM
Only engage the troll if you’re bored and want some fun from batting around a troll. Don’t expect to trap him in a corner and make admit his foolishness, though; that’s just not how trolls work.
frankj on June 28, 2007 at 8:41 PM
I like the Harry Potter form of dealing with Trolls
unseen on June 28, 2007 at 9:41 PM
This is a clear case of projection in the first portion of the clip.
If the right really believes that the media is liberal dominated, we would be calling for a fairness doctrine? Just because it’s what you would do, Congressman, doesn’t mean that we would call for government regulation. There is no logic whatsoever to your argument.
The second clip is just him bloviating about the insignificance of talk radio, which is just wishful thinking on his part.
Yikes! This is a member of Congress!
JannyMae on June 28, 2007 at 9:43 PM
Your right, polling 800 lower manhattan residents creates an accurate picture of national public opinions. So do all those 40/33/27 D/I/R polls. Representative. Right.
LOL Troll, go back home.
BKennedy on June 28, 2007 at 9:49 PM
Am I missing something here or what? Is Obey against the Fairness Doctrine or for it? Because Fox News, both COlmes and Hannity, are claiming that he’s for it.
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 9:22 PM
You really can’t be that thick can you?
and you really don’t think we are either do you?
unseen on June 28, 2007 at 9:53 PM
Like Bernie Sanders on shamnesty Obey is right, just for the wrong reasons.
Pablo on June 28, 2007 at 10:01 PM
Yeah dude, I guess those were “manhattan residents” Rasmussen was polling when he put up polls showing us kicking your ass last November.
Guess it was just a coincidence we won, right?
Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 10:07 PM
Not that I want anyone to worry, but this un-fairness doc-urine is bandied about by the likes of Trent Lott, and who know whom else.
What kind of voice do these people want? Phone, Blog, Email, Fax, in your face?
It’s clear these guys/gals got a spanking from the American public, and they don’t like it.
We just cannot just pass laws that don’t work just to pass something. What does that accomplish?
If we’re gonna pass something that’s gonna feel like a kidney stone, then hold your nose cause passing the gas of a bill like this hurts even worse.
Kini on June 28, 2007 at 10:07 PM
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 8:51 PM
No he never came back because he knew he lost the debate. Maybe next time he will bring some help with him?
Just like this thread he can not win because his basic point is flawed.
Talk radio has been a driving force in politics since Rush came on the air. Clinton referred to it as a “vast rightwing conspiracy” when he almost brought him down. It helped stop the Ports deal, the Myers nomination, and now immigration amnesty. It also helped bring into power Newt and the 1994 gang. Hilton has done what?
unseen on June 28, 2007 at 10:08 PM
he put up polls showing us kicking your ass last November
Hmmmm his latest poll shows you guys at 14%. That’s good right? I mean 86% of America hating you is a good thing right?
unseen on June 28, 2007 at 10:11 PM
If we’re so in consequential, why does half of their party want to shut us down?
Good Lt on June 28, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Hey, if they thought they saw outrage over amnesty, let them try shutting down talk radio!
Bring it on, Stalinists. Bring it on.
petefrt on June 28, 2007 at 10:14 PM
Why are you here?
thedecider on June 28, 2007 at 10:15 PM
When you can’t win in the war of ideas, you suppress them anyway you can.
Kini on June 28, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Trent Lott has a blog post up:
http://blog.thehill.com/2007/06/28/senate-americans-arent-ready-for-reforms-sen-trent-lott/
gmoonster on June 28, 2007 at 10:16 PM
When you can’t win in the war of ideas, you suppress them anyway you can.
Kini on June 28, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Or you ignore them and make them seem small. The elites tried that with amnesty calling us just a bunch of small minded bigots. Obey is trying the same tatic now because he knows he does not have the power yet to shut talk radio down.
unseen on June 28, 2007 at 10:18 PM
So if he and other conservative talk radio hosts are so disliked and inconsequential, then why bother resurrecting the Fairness Doctrine?
Slublog on June 28, 2007 at 10:18 PM
I caught a segment of this earlier tonight. It was incredible watching him try to downplay the impact of talk radio on politics. The man is truly ignorant.
thedecider on June 28, 2007 at 10:21 PM
Do y’all listen to Dennis Miller?
Dennis Miller Radio.com
I like the cut of his jib.
Beck is the only person close to his level. IMHO
TheSitRep on June 28, 2007 at 10:22 PM
Wow. Looks like they pro-amnesty crowd won’t go quietly into the night:
The Hill Blog
gmoonster on June 28, 2007 at 10:24 PM
We were trying to get immigration reformed, and we made the best effort — apparently the Senate and the American people are not ready for that yet, so we’ll just go forward.
Permalink | Comment on this story
Posted by Miss. GOP Sen. Trent Lott
We are not ready for what Mr. Lott? The wholesale liquidition of our country?
I would hope that we will never be ready for that.
unseen on June 28, 2007 at 10:27 PM
Hey, Gloating is allot of fun
Weve had some good news stories today.
It is like VE-Day or Vj-day what should we call this VM-day?
TheSitRep on June 28, 2007 at 10:27 PM
By the way Talk Radio just reflects our thoughts and opinions. The hosts just sell the soap and talk over thecallers.
TheSitRep on June 28, 2007 at 10:29 PM
From Post on the Hill blog
They have abandoned their responsibility to the American people, and they have sent immigrants an unmistakable message: you are not welcome in our big tent.
We will not forget. The price of the Bush Administration and Senate’s failure means more people dying in the desert.
gmoonster on June 28, 2007 at 10:31 PM
John F. Kennedy stated, ‘We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.’”
sonnyspats1 on June 28, 2007 at 10:40 PM
I read the Hill blog, and they don’t get it. It’s not about immigrants, it’s about illegal immigrants. Big difference.
It’s about legal verses illegal. Right and wrong. No more simpler.
They want to make this a racial argument, it’s not!
Kini on June 28, 2007 at 10:42 PM
Was Frank Luntz working for the Dems when the “Fairness Doctrine” was first introduced?
He has aged quite well if you ask me.
VolMagic on June 28, 2007 at 10:47 PM
Who is this unimportant moron again? Oh yeah, he’s the guy with 10 people watching while the Paris Hilton like Rush Limbaugh has more than 20-million listeners. Yeah…. anyone can be a democrat as long as you have less than a 60 IQ.
zerodamage on June 28, 2007 at 10:48 PM
Oh… and I’ve seen a lot of people respond to Fragility… but I didn’t see anyone mention the 20 million daily listeners he (Rush) attracts.
Maha Rushie isn’t running for office and doesn’t care that the libs hate him. I doubt even President Bush has 20 million people listen to what he says everyday.
VolMagic on June 28, 2007 at 10:52 PM
Thinking Rush is irrelevant to the debate and carries no influence is delusional. Whatever helps you sleep at night, Obey…
Here’s my exit question: Why do liberals hate freedom?
CP on June 28, 2007 at 10:54 PM
I’m really interested in this Broadcast Freedom Act idea that Colmes and Pence were talking about on H&C earlier. Might just google it.
Ryan Gandy on June 28, 2007 at 11:02 PM
The answer, CP, is in the Constitution:
“endowed by their Creator”
Liberals hate the idea of a Creator, implies religion, therefore right and wrong.
No God, no guilt.
BobH on June 28, 2007 at 11:03 PM
“None can love freedom heartily, but good men;
the rest love not freedom, but license.”
—John Milton
BobH on June 28, 2007 at 11:05 PM
you misquoted…. this means that of the unfavorables he has 60% of the group… when will people stop looking at polls? they’re just fuzzy math…
Kaptain Amerika on June 28, 2007 at 11:11 PM
I assume the Liberals thought that just because they won the majority in 2006 that we would all bow down and slink quietly away and they could have their way turning the US into a socialist mecca. Earmarks for all, earmarks for every Liberal cause. Obvious today’s AMNESTY defeat pushed them off the cliff and into a tantrum — Their vision of a permanent welfare plantation majority in shambles.
Going to be a real hoot at the YouTube coral next election.
tarpon on June 28, 2007 at 11:27 PM
unseen on June 28, 2007 at 10:08 PM
So it would seem!
No kidding.
Exactly, like AP noted regard Bush’s comments framing it with the word ‘legal’ where the announcer cut of his statement. Dishonest and disingenuous.
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 11:28 PM
Did he just come from the bar with Teddy K? Is this the best Wisconsin has to offer our country? Finally why is it when they can broadcast their ideas and someone shouts them down it’s a violation of their free speech but, when someone has a differing opinion form theirs, and it hits the airwaves, it’s unfair?
boomer on June 28, 2007 at 11:29 PM
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