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	<title>Comments on: 10:30 10:50 a.m.: Cloture 2 &#8212; Something Wicked This Way Comes; Update: Ensign will vote no, Cochran may vote yes; Update: What&#8217;s your alternative, asks Teddy &#8212; a Gestapo? Update: 53 NO&#8217;S &#8212; CLOTURE FAILS! Update: Roll of glory added!</title>
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		<title>By: Genocidal Immigration &#8211; Of Whites, by Whites, and for Whites from age-of-treason.blogspot.com &#171; Locust blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genocidal Immigration &#8211; Of Whites, by Whites, and for Whites from age-of-treason.blogspot.com &#171; Locust blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: &#8220;&#8230;Effete&#8221;&#8230;.Thanks Michelle&#8230;I&#8217;d have never thunk it! at Desert Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;&#8230;Effete&#8221;&#8230;.Thanks Michelle&#8230;I&#8217;d have never thunk it! at Desert Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Teddy K and The Owl Club; Flashback;Teddy K’s unhinged diatribe against Sam Alito; Flashback: Kennedy’s shamnesty “Gestapo” rant) extolling Obama for “lifting up” rather than “tearing down” was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/28/1030-am-cloture-2-something-wicked-this-way-comes/comment-page-12/#comment-913824</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Teddy K and The Owl Club; Flashback;Teddy K&#8217;s unhinged diatribe against Sam Alito; Flashback: Kennedy&#8217;s shamnesty &#8220;Gestapo&#8221; rant) extolling Obama for &#8220;lifting up&#8221; rather than &#8220;tearing down&#8221; was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Uncle Teddy endorses Obama: &#8220;To make America good again&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/28/1030-am-cloture-2-something-wicked-this-way-comes/comment-page-12/#comment-911090</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Uncle Teddy endorses Obama: &#8220;To make America good again&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Teddy K and The Owl Club. Flashback: Teddy K&#8217;s unhinged diatribe against Sam Alito Flashback: Kennedy&#8217;s shamnesty &#8220;Gestapo&#8221; rant  Posted in: Ted Kennedy, Barack Obama  Send to a Friend Printer Friendly   comments [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Breaking: The DREAM dies! Update: Roll added</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/28/1030-am-cloture-2-something-wicked-this-way-comes/comment-page-12/#comment-749231</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Breaking: The DREAM dies! Update: Roll added</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the roll, though, as promised. Recall that the shamnesty cloture vote this summer failed with 53 votes, not 44, although it was more politically important for the participants to be seen on the right [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martinez stepping downs as RNC chair &#171; Crush Liberalism</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/28/1030-am-cloture-2-something-wicked-this-way-comes/comment-page-12/#comment-718287</link>
		<dc:creator>Martinez stepping downs as RNC chair &#171; Crush Liberalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by crushliberalism on October 4th, 2007  Finally some good news for the GOP.  From Hot Air: Sometime early next year, ostensibly so that he can pass the baton to whoever ends up as the GOP nominee but probably because his position on the issue for which he’s most famous doesn’t exactly set the grassroots scurrying for their checkbooks. His approval rating in Florida, incidentally, went from 50% in January down the toilet to 38% in July. I wonder why. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted by crushliberalism on October 4th, 2007  Finally some good news for the GOP.  From Hot Air: Sometime early next year, ostensibly so that he can pass the baton to whoever ends up as the GOP nominee but probably because his position on the issue for which he’s most famous doesn’t exactly set the grassroots scurrying for their checkbooks. His approval rating in Florida, incidentally, went from 50% in January down the toilet to 38% in July. I wonder why. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Amnesty Mel&#8221; Martinez to step down as RNC chairman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Amnesty Mel&#8221; Martinez to step down as RNC chairman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sometime early next year, ostensibly so that he can pass the baton to whoever ends up as the GOP nominee but probably because his position on the issue for which he&#8217;s most famous doesn&#8217;t exactly set the grassroots scurrying for their checkbooks. His approval rating in Florida, incidentally, went from 50% in January down the toilet to 38% in July. I wonder why. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sometime early next year, ostensibly so that he can pass the baton to whoever ends up as the GOP nominee but probably because his position on the issue for which he&#8217;s most famous doesn&#8217;t exactly set the grassroots scurrying for their checkbooks. His approval rating in Florida, incidentally, went from 50% in January down the toilet to 38% in July. I wonder why. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Report: Sen. Larry Craig arrested in June on suspicion of &#8220;lewd conduct&#8221; in public restroom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Report: Sen. Larry Craig arrested in June on suspicion of &#8220;lewd conduct&#8221; in public restroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of our commenters reminds me that Craig voted yes on shamnesty cloture. Fare thee well, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: An Alternative to Amnesty &#171; Lone Star Pundit</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/28/1030-am-cloture-2-something-wicked-this-way-comes/comment-page-12/#comment-563665</link>
		<dc:creator>An Alternative to Amnesty &#171; Lone Star Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Then when the bill was finally put down, he blasted conservatives from the floor of the Senate with heated rhetoric about no alternative plans and a desire to use some imaginary set of Nazi-style tactics on illegal immigrants: (video courtesy of Hot Air) We know what they&#8217;re against, we don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re for. Time and time again they tell us, &#8220;We don&#8217;t like this provision; we don&#8217;t like that provision; we don&#8217;t want that part.&#8221; Well they ought to be able to explain to the American people what they are for. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Then when the bill was finally put down, he blasted conservatives from the floor of the Senate with heated rhetoric about no alternative plans and a desire to use some imaginary set of Nazi-style tactics on illegal immigrants: (video courtesy of Hot Air) We know what they&#8217;re against, we don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re for. Time and time again they tell us, &#8220;We don&#8217;t like this provision; we don&#8217;t like that provision; we don&#8217;t want that part.&#8221; Well they ought to be able to explain to the American people what they are for. [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight Sen. Edward Moore.  We can&#039;t send illegals home because its unfair, rude and costly.  It would be too hard.  Enforcing our laws might make us look mean spirited in the eyes of other nations.  We wouldn&#039;t want them thinking that we aren&#039;t kind.  After all we&#039;re not the Sovereign United States of America.  We&#039;re the United States of Earth.  We do not have the right to deny any earthling entrance.  Which is also why we should grant terrorists civil rights.  Name me a country (worth living in) that would let me break their laws and be rewarded for it.  What was it about you that ever got you elected Sen. Moore.  What was it?  It was like maybe you had name recognition or something.  I am embarrassed to say that you have represented my home state of Massachusetts for 45 years longer than you should have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight Sen. Edward Moore.  We can&#8217;t send illegals home because its unfair, rude and costly.  It would be too hard.  Enforcing our laws might make us look mean spirited in the eyes of other nations.  We wouldn&#8217;t want them thinking that we aren&#8217;t kind.  After all we&#8217;re not the Sovereign United States of America.  We&#8217;re the United States of Earth.  We do not have the right to deny any earthling entrance.  Which is also why we should grant terrorists civil rights.  Name me a country (worth living in) that would let me break their laws and be rewarded for it.  What was it about you that ever got you elected Sen. Moore.  What was it?  It was like maybe you had name recognition or something.  I am embarrassed to say that you have represented my home state of Massachusetts for 45 years longer than you should have.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bias in Coverage of Immigration-Bill Failure Extends to Protecting Ted Gestapo Kennedy...&lt;/strong&gt;

NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias

One doesn&#039;t have to look very far to see opinionated assertions in the supposedly objective Old Media coverage of yesterday&#039;s immigration-bill failure in the Senate.
Here&#039;s part of what an unbylined AP ...</description>
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<p>NewsBusters.org &#8211; Exposing Liberal Media Bias</p>
<p>One doesn&#8217;t have to look very far to see opinionated assertions in the supposedly objective Old Media coverage of yesterday&#8217;s immigration-bill failure in the Senate.<br />
Here&#8217;s part of what an unbylined AP &#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:03 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A little late in responding, but may I say...What a bunch of crock.

So you say that if we don&#039;t support everything you think of, then we are hypocrites?  Try looking up the word and learning the meaning, the most mis-used word in a weak minded persons debate.

If this is just one issue that stirs a persons heart, and they respond, then good for them.  If a person takes the time and writes or sends just one thing to a soldier overseas, then good for them.  If they do nothing else, I am sure they have done more than you will ever do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:03 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>A little late in responding, but may I say&#8230;What a bunch of crock.</p>
<p>So you say that if we don&#8217;t support everything you think of, then we are hypocrites?  Try looking up the word and learning the meaning, the most mis-used word in a weak minded persons debate.</p>
<p>If this is just one issue that stirs a persons heart, and they respond, then good for them.  If a person takes the time and writes or sends just one thing to a soldier overseas, then good for them.  If they do nothing else, I am sure they have done more than you will ever do.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to congratulate Michelle and Bryan and all the creative, driven people on the blogosphere for making this happen. It&#039;s online forums like these that really cut away all the &quot;cr*pola&quot; surrounding an issue and get the REAL point through to America. Kudos to whoever did &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q31eX739xw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to congratulate Michelle and Bryan and all the creative, driven people on the blogosphere for making this happen. It&#8217;s online forums like these that really cut away all the &#8220;cr*pola&#8221; surrounding an issue and get the REAL point through to America. Kudos to whoever did <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q31eX739xw" rel="nofollow">this</a>, too.</p>
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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Bias in Wire-Service Coverage of Immigration-Bill Extends to Protecting Ted &#8216;Gestapo&#8217; Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Bias in Wire-Service Coverage of Immigration-Bill Extends to Protecting Ted &#8216;Gestapo&#8217; Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Senator Ted Kennedy from Massachusetts lit into opponents on the Senate floor yesterday with this over-the-top riff (video is at Hot Air; bold is mine): &#8230;.. We know what they&#8217;re against, we don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re for. Time and time again they tell us &#8220;We don&#8217;t like this provision, we don&#8217;t like that provision, we don&#8217;t want that part. Well they ought to be able to explain to the American people what they are for. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Senator Ted Kennedy from Massachusetts lit into opponents on the Senate floor yesterday with this over-the-top riff (video is at Hot Air; bold is mine): &#8230;.. We know what they&#8217;re against, we don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re for. Time and time again they tell us &#8220;We don&#8217;t like this provision, we don&#8217;t like that provision, we don&#8217;t want that part. Well they ought to be able to explain to the American people what they are for. [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>ColtsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
U.S. Citizenship could be dangled as a prize, too, which would ensure that some folks would work for next to nothing (say, $2/hr with community housing) for a long time. 

G. Charles on June 29, 2007 at 3:48 AM
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And Big Business would continue  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48161&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;  to direct their illegal alien employees &lt;/a&gt;  to the local  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150750,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;   Emergency Room &lt;/a&gt;  for both their out-patient and inpatient healthcare needs.

That is another sad way in which Big Business exploits illegal aliens.  And hospitals suffer  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_1_mexifornia.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;  economically as a result.&lt;/a&gt;



      

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U.S. Citizenship could be dangled as a prize, too, which would ensure that some folks would work for next to nothing (say, $2/hr with community housing) for a long time. </p>
<p>G. Charles on June 29, 2007 at 3:48 AM
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<p>And Big Business would continue  <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48161" rel="nofollow">  to direct their illegal alien employees </a>  to the local  <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150750,00.html" rel="nofollow">   Emergency Room </a>  for both their out-patient and inpatient healthcare needs.</p>
<p>That is another sad way in which Big Business exploits illegal aliens.  And hospitals suffer  <a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_1_mexifornia.html" rel="nofollow">  economically as a result.</a></p>
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		<title>By: G. Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be clear that the Big Business approach to curtail immigration is the following: High wages compared to other countries has caused excess supply (illegal immigrants); therefore there should be a Guest-Worker program, whereby businesses would pay extremely low wages, so low, in fact, that immigrants won&#039;t be that tempted to come here without guaranteed work. U.S. Citizenship could be dangled as a prize, too, which would ensure that some folks would work for next to nothing (say, $2/hr with community housing) for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be clear that the Big Business approach to curtail immigration is the following: High wages compared to other countries has caused excess supply (illegal immigrants); therefore there should be a Guest-Worker program, whereby businesses would pay extremely low wages, so low, in fact, that immigrants won&#8217;t be that tempted to come here without guaranteed work. U.S. Citizenship could be dangled as a prize, too, which would ensure that some folks would work for next to nothing (say, $2/hr with community housing) for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole process is a type of subsidy to businesses that hire illegals. Yes, if Americans had these jobs, the cost of produce would be a bit more (10 to 20 percent); and the profits of ag-business would be a bit less (also 10 to 20 percent); but unemployment would be down and wages would be up. This is a trade-off that most Americans are willing to make. Another sacrifice would be loss of some ag-business to other countries, and slightly slower growth for ag-business here; again, if this means more jobs at better wages for American citizens, it is an acceptable trade-off. Finally, there would be a modest boost to ag-business in Central and So. America, which would be another factor in lowering the immigration flow.

Businesses that want cheap labor should be made to post jobs to the public at minimum wage or above. If there are no takers, then let them sponsor &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;legal &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;aliens at minimum wage--even though many would work below that wage. That should be the rule, even if exceptions (slightly lower wages for a whole industry) are sometimes warranted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole process is a type of subsidy to businesses that hire illegals. Yes, if Americans had these jobs, the cost of produce would be a bit more (10 to 20 percent); and the profits of ag-business would be a bit less (also 10 to 20 percent); but unemployment would be down and wages would be up. This is a trade-off that most Americans are willing to make. Another sacrifice would be loss of some ag-business to other countries, and slightly slower growth for ag-business here; again, if this means more jobs at better wages for American citizens, it is an acceptable trade-off. Finally, there would be a modest boost to ag-business in Central and So. America, which would be another factor in lowering the immigration flow.</p>
<p>Businesses that want cheap labor should be made to post jobs to the public at minimum wage or above. If there are no takers, then let them sponsor <strong><em>legal </em></strong>aliens at minimum wage&#8211;even though many would work below that wage. That should be the rule, even if exceptions (slightly lower wages for a whole industry) are sometimes warranted.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ColtsFan on June 28, 2007 at 10:33 PM

You have to understand that the whole process is designed to keep encouraging illegal immigration with the amnesty carrot being extended every so often.  It has been that way for years.  Our economic growth is now based on low wage workers on a cash and carry basis, no back end costs to the employers.  Sort of like the South before slavery was abolished.   Our Department of Commerce is now one of the most powerful agencies in our government and also one of the most secretive.</description>
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<p>You have to understand that the whole process is designed to keep encouraging illegal immigration with the amnesty carrot being extended every so often.  It has been that way for years.  Our economic growth is now based on low wage workers on a cash and carry basis, no back end costs to the employers.  Sort of like the South before slavery was abolished.   Our Department of Commerce is now one of the most powerful agencies in our government and also one of the most secretive.</p>
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		<title>By: DfDeportation</title>
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		<dc:creator>DfDeportation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teddy, what&#039;s next? Enforce our fair, humane, accessible, and righteous immigration laws. Build the fence! Workplace enforcement! Deport Illegal aliens! Just think how much better our schools will be with 4 million fewer Illegal Aliens in L.A. County!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy, what&#8217;s next? Enforce our fair, humane, accessible, and righteous immigration laws. Build the fence! Workplace enforcement! Deport Illegal aliens! Just think how much better our schools will be with 4 million fewer Illegal Aliens in L.A. County!</p>
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		<title>By: entagor</title>
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		<dc:creator>entagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LeBoutillier has a good set of ideas to really solve the illegal problem in a Newsmax article I jusr read
in order
First secure the borders. Then punish employers who use illegals to undercut American workers. Reform welfare to allow Americans to retain their benefits if they do seasonal work, like agriculture. Only then, decide who to let in

IMHO the employers to go after first are the ones using illegals to replace americans and force wages down. This a real conspiracy to destroy our society, scabs from outer space!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LeBoutillier has a good set of ideas to really solve the illegal problem in a Newsmax article I jusr read<br />
in order<br />
First secure the borders. Then punish employers who use illegals to undercut American workers. Reform welfare to allow Americans to retain their benefits if they do seasonal work, like agriculture. Only then, decide who to let in</p>
<p>IMHO the employers to go after first are the ones using illegals to replace americans and force wages down. This a real conspiracy to destroy our society, scabs from outer space!</p>
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		<title>By: American8298</title>
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		<dc:creator>American8298</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was not a victory people, but just the start of a long and very overdue reckoning. The next thing without pause is to get are elected officials started on an Enforcement Only Bill that deals with employers of Illegal Immigrants and Unlawful Emigrants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was not a victory people, but just the start of a long and very overdue reckoning. The next thing without pause is to get are elected officials started on an Enforcement Only Bill that deals with employers of Illegal Immigrants and Unlawful Emigrants.</p>
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		<title>By: Darnell Clayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darnell Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1100 comments! Allahpundit Akabar!

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