10:30 10:50 a.m.: Cloture 2 — Something Wicked This Way Comes; Update: Ensign will vote no, Cochran may vote yes; Update: What’s your alternative, asks Teddy — a Gestapo? Update: 53 NO’S — CLOTURE FAILS! Update: Roll of glory added!
posted at 9:27 am on June 28, 2007 by Allahpundit
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We’re prepared for any contingency. Victory means a Humpbot cameo; defeat means I get tanked on hard liquor in the middle of the day. It’s win/win, really. The boss has already done a quickie round-up of stories this morning predicting the bill’s demise. John Hawkins’s Senate source lends his voice to the chorus:
To begin with, my source said he is guardedly optimistic that the bill will fail the 2nd cloture vote tomorrow. That is because he thinks that some of the senators who voted for cloture on Tuesday were doing so because they were being “senatorial” by allowing a debate. But, that only goes so far, and everyone realizes at this point that the Thursday vote is the final vote on amnesty as far as the base is concerned. In other words, a “yes” on cloture is a “yes” to amnesty.
At that point, I asked about the “fool the yahoos” maneuver. Will there be senators voting “yes” on cloture and then voting against the final bill and hoping that they can avoid being tagged as supporting amnesty? He said that because of all the attention this issue has gotten, the base isn’t going to be fooled and that anyone who does that will just have to hope that his election isn’t close enough that thousands conservatives sitting at home can swing it the other way.
McCain’s Iowa campaign chairman told WaPo yesterday he wished the issue of immigration had never come to the floor. As for St. John’s crony-in-chief, he’s featured prominently in the Times’s story this morning about senators being threatened by nutjobs angry over the bill. See-Dub will clue you in to the agenda behind the piece if you haven’t guessed already, but here’s your quote of the day from the man who once derided amnesty opponents as “bigots” before a crowd of swooning La Raza members:
“One of the requirements of public service in modern America is dealing with a few voices that are full of hate,” Mr. Graham said. “And our discourse and the way we politic, the way we engage each other, brings that out.”
It’s bringing something out: according to freshman Blue Dog Jon Tester, the feedback he’s getting from constituents is more overwhelmingly opposed on this issue than it is on Iraq, where public opposition currently hovers in the mid- to high-60s.
Updates will be flying fast and furious in an hour or so. I’ll do my best to liveblog the vote, although on Tuesday they didn’t repeat each senator’s vote after calling his/her name so it may not be possible. While you wait, read John Shadegg’s nightmare scenario at NRO about the various loopholes built into the bill that would let illegals caught while sneaking across the border nonetheless obtain legal status. Oh, and read this piece at Politico, which is comic in its adulation of Ted Kennedy even by normal media standards.
Humpbot waits in the wings, wondering if it’s his time to shine. Exit question: Pelosi and the gang deserve a pay raise, don’t you think?
Update: Here’s a no we weren’t counting on — Ensign has flipped. Don’t fear the reaper!
Update: They’re trying to flip Thad Cochran the other way now. If my vote tally last night was right, then we don’t need him.
Update: This must be one of those “voices of hate” Lindsey Graham was wringing his hands about. This debate was Godwinned weeks ago; might as well keep it up to the bitter end.
How many times does Teddy need to be told “close the borders first” before he grasps that that’s the alternative?
Update: Reid’s taken abuse, Bush has taken abuse, McCain and Graham and Kyl and Martinez have taken abuse enough for a lifetime, but one guy has stayed miraculously clean even though he’s sat idly by and let this sham take its course despite the uproar from his base and the pleas from Sessions et al. Save a little bile for him.
Update: How absurd has it gotten?
In case you didn’t catch this, the opponents of shamnesty are rushing through their statements because the Grand Schemers have only given them 10 minutes to speak. The shamnesty senators will get the rest of the hour to talk. “Typical,” says Session, of the way this debate has gone. And so starkly absurd. You’ve got the pro-amnesty senators on the floor now all bleating about how debate shouldn’t be ended…having just limited their opponents’ time to a measly 10 minutes.
Update: Here we go. Standby for liveblog totals.
First run-through is 19-21. Webb voted no! I think most of them deliberately haven’t voted yet, though, so that they can see what the first totals look like and then vote accordingly.
25-30 now! Humpbot is warming up…
31-38! TWO MORE.
I count fully 53 no’s. We did it.
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Update: Here’s the roll. Gonna go do the cross-check to see who switched.
Update: The yes/no switchers were Bingaman, Bond, Brown, Brownback, Burr, Coleman, Collins, Domenici, Ensign, Harkin, McConnell, Murkowski, Ben Nelson, Pryor, Stevens, Voinovich(!), Warner, and Webb. Republicans are in boldfaced. I guess you can thank Sean Hannity for shaming Voinovich into flipping.
It’s worth going back and looking at the order in which they voted, to see who held back and waited to gauge how the vote was going before casting his/her ballot. I’ll bet Mitch McConnell was one of them.
Update: Well, well. Brownback initially voted yes — and then switched to no when he realized he was going to lose. Disgraceful.
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I’m going to send contributions to my two Senators this afternoon. Just a little thank-you for voting the right way.
jaime on June 28, 2007 at 12:33 PM
I agree, I feel like if we forget and reelect them, the chances of them taking us seriously next time we lose our minds like this will be slim to none. It was hard enough this time!
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Part of Demint’s comments:
Thank you sir
source:http://demint.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=491
sunny on June 28, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Okay guys. New campaign. Get Allah his iPhone! It’s the American thing to do.
writemalkin@gmail.com
Get to work!
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Latest on Sen. Graham’s name change.
DCA on June 28, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Good idea, lets not forget to say thanks to those who voted for us, the correct vote, the people.
shooter on June 28, 2007 at 12:38 PM
I just saw this on Drudge:
Bush, making a last-ditch bid to salvage the bill, called senators early Thursday morning to urge their support. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez approached senators as they entered and left the chamber shortly before the vote.
What the heck? Does this just sound weird to anyone else, almost menacing?
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:38 PM
Many thanks to the crew here, at Michelle’s site, at Ace’s site and everywhere else for keeping us informed, alert, and motivated during this fight.
This might be a kind of tipping point for the GOP. On the brink of its demise, those who sought to bring it down have only succeeded in awakening us, the sleeping giants. We are now motivated, hungry, and we know that our elected officials are listening to us. This was a big win, but let’s not stop here.
Power to the people. We can still shape this party to be what we want it to be.
World B. Free on June 28, 2007 at 12:39 PM
We CAN have the fence. Demand it. If whoever is running in your district/State doesn’t agree, don’t elect them.
Make it the issue that opens and closes your wallet.
There is a tremendous potential here for us to pull together a grassroots block of the aka Reid ‘Dark and Ugly’.
The problem is, and always has been, these bills that cover everything from milk production to B2 bombers. Demand a single issue bill. Build the fence, make a quota. Those candidates who support that get to play in your wallet. Those that don’t don’t.
Limerick on June 28, 2007 at 12:39 PM
Keep it away from the Humpbot though.
saint kansas on June 28, 2007 at 12:39 PM
Very intimidating–especially for the freshmen Senators. I don’t like it at all.
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 12:39 PM
Tancredo has recieved some exposure due to this issue. I’ve developed a new respect for him. He doesn’t have a chance at POTUS, but I now have a warm feeling for him. Good Luck, Tank!!! (FRED!)
jaime on June 28, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Kennedy thinks everyone is stupid enough to believe his lies. He really is coming off as a super-moron.
nottakingsides on June 28, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Gopd, what an embarrasment Kennedy is. We denied MKS’d dream to the children of immigrants? WTF? They’re citizens you drunken fool!
And a minority blocked your comprehensive piece of crap? Were you passed out for that 53-46 vote, Senator Dewars?
Please Massachusetts. Put this fool out of our misery. Enough is enough.
Pablo on June 28, 2007 at 12:41 PM
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM
No problem………Oh and that golden nectar that Benjamin Franklin once claimed was proof that god loved man…Well it sure taste good right now……
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Wow, I might have to be nicer about Hannity after this Voinovich vote…
But how bad is that that a dunce like Hannity can STOMP a SITTING SENATOR and embarrass him so badly he actually changes his vote? That my friends, is scary.
Bad Candy on June 28, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Go Sean Hannity!!!!!
Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Doh! MLK’s dream…
Pablo on June 28, 2007 at 12:43 PM
Now we have to start pushing to get the border secure, the fence built, and the laws enforced.
Makes me sick when I hear them say our laws are unenforcible. I mean good gawd, this is the country that built the hoover dam, the empire state building, we put a man on the moon, we send space probes to mars - yet we can’t BUILD A FENCE? There is no excuse at all for our border to not be secure
Keli on June 28, 2007 at 12:43 PM
Time to pull the plug and keep John “Ho Chi Minh” McCain’s campaign circling the drain.
Take that you arrogant a$$hole!
This man makes me embarrassed that I’m from AZ.
Brass Pair on June 28, 2007 at 12:45 PM
Those would be some interesting baby bots…
Bad Candy on June 28, 2007 at 12:45 PM
It is the Executive Branch that is supposed to enforce the laws. Lamnesty Duck Bush won’t do it. Anyone have any ideas?
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 12:46 PM
I almost forgot:
from ace comments
lol
sunny on June 28, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Texas and the Feds are building 4,000 miles of 10 lane super highway, but the Feds can’t build 700 miles of 15 foot fence. Must be something terribly difficult about fence building then.
Limerick on June 28, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Oh, you are a cruel one.
I’m in a cubicle with four hours to go before I finish work. And now I’m going to spend some of that time thinking of the cold bottles in my fridge.
Slublog on June 28, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Thank You Allah for all your hard work on this!
Keli on June 28, 2007 at 12:47 PM
He earned it!
JackS on June 28, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Bwaaahahahhaha! Excellent!
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:48 PM
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Ok, I’m on it, AP does deserve it after this glorious effort….
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 12:48 PM
This is great news.
But we can’t stop now. We need to stay active, cause you know things are gonna heat up, with the “fairness” doctrine, and border enforcement.
We need to thank the Senators that voted no, and replace the senators that voted yes.
Like Larry Craig (RINO- ID)
jdawg on June 28, 2007 at 12:48 PM
The legal American people have spoken. It is comforting to see that this Republic is not lost, yet. It is however, disturbing to see the likes of Kennedy, Reid, Graham, etc. pontificate about how the “will” of the American people (whom they are to represent, lest we forget) is incorrect and destructive. To all of you who supported the rule of law, Thank You. But, please realize the firestorm will now begin. The liberal/self effacing elite will declare this the result of conservative talk media, conservative media, racism, ignorant scared Americansetc. . . We will need to stand strong again, and again. Pray that a “Leader” arises for the next election who listens to the legal American people and responds in kind. None of us are “hatefull” we just want the laws followed and our country secured. That really isn’t a hard concept to understand. What is hard to understand is that many of our elected can not understand it.
America, Americans, Thank you.
stanfil2 on June 28, 2007 at 12:48 PM
AMERICA! F Yeah!
We rock!
I’m so much in love with us right now, it’s obscene!
tickleddragon on June 28, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Isn’t Dorian cruel? Oh well, nothing we can do, the countdown begins…3 hours and 10 minutes until I can be on my way to the god’s nectar waiting in my fridge…
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Slublog on June 28, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Hey its a tough job, but somebody has to remind you good people that there is more to life than those damn accursed cubical’s you spend 1/3 of your life’s slaving away in. Oh and with the temp here in SoCal at about 75 degrees this Boston Lager sure does taste good……..
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 12:52 PM
I took my humping robots and I am proud of it!
Thanks to all for the victory.
Babs on June 28, 2007 at 12:53 PM
I’ve been lurking here (before this latest open sign-up) since the beginning and he strikes me as a 100% platform guy. If you don’t support Bush 100% on everything then you’re not a Real Conservative and don’t support the troops. What the hell one has to do with the other, I have no clue, since what the troops are fighting for is a sovereign nation, and without borders your nation isn’t sovereign (as has been said by many others on this site).
He reminds me of a guy I work with who, when this came up last time, basically regurgitated on and on the Administration’s position, and when I tried to argue the other point, turned his back to me saying, “Yeah, yeah. Go read something on the subject” and wouldn’t listen, until I asked him what he’ll do when his job becomes one that “Americans won’t do.”
tomas, if you’re that concerned about an alleged lack of support for the troops, do something to jump-start it. Don’t insult us.
crazy_legs on June 28, 2007 at 12:53 PM
Yes he is! Although I’m on my way to Kelly’s in about 15 minutes. I’ll keep one on ice for you.
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 12:53 PM
I am convinced (based only on my gut) that interview and the reaction of the people over it, caused him to flip. He was a dead man walking after that interview and he knew it.
TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2007 at 12:54 PM
Yup. I’m not really sure what’s worse. Those who say we can’t build it, or those who say we won’t do it.
Zetterson on June 28, 2007 at 12:54 PM
tickleddragon on June 28, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Ummm, oh yea, me too, hell in fact I’ll drink to that……
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 12:54 PM
Haha, thanks! It’s amazing how awesome it feels to show these people that we will not just bow down and take it when they try to make us believe something is good for America when we KNOW otherwise.
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:57 PM
I had to find my password to place this comment because I havent been able to blog much lately. I want to thank everyone at this site for their hard work in my behalf. This comment:
“This was dangerously close to a government of the government, not the people” - shooter
is very important.
We may have reached a ctritical moment in the Republic. It isnt over.
Someone above asked if we should forgive or forget.
We should ask: can we trust them again?
Did these Senators change their votes for conscience or because of the enormous scream from America? I fear they did it for expedience but they have not changed their intents. They tried to sneak this in twice now. They have been relentless in ignoring us.
This does not bode well, nor does the intimidation squad at the Senate door.
Someone smart I know summed it up:
They are making citizenship and entitlement, not a privilege. This changes our country in ways we cannot recover from.
I am saying a prayer for the Nation of our Founders. It is under attack by a group who have no love for that original concept.
Thanks again everyone, in the spirit of 1776 and the men who were barefoot at Valley Forge. I hear the drums in the distance. Lexington, Concord, Bunker Hill and the Kings men who did not understand the anger
entagor on June 28, 2007 at 12:58 PM
I never knew most of these Senators until a few weeks ago. Yet, I will never forget what the GREAT Sen. Sessions did for this country. Yes and the others I will not forget any of the Hero’s, ever..
Legions on June 28, 2007 at 12:58 PM
ROFLMAO!
TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2007 at 12:59 PM
sorry, typo,
They are making citizenship an entitlement, not a privilege
entagor on June 28, 2007 at 12:59 PM
create a paypal tip jar - We are all in such a good mood now I bet we can raise $500 easy.
TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2007 at 1:00 PM
Virginia’s two senators went the right way!
krabbas on June 28, 2007 at 1:01 PM
:)!
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 1:02 PM
I’d have to say this was one of the most remarkable few days I’ve had. It needs to be somehow put on paper and taught in civics class in high schools. Do they still have civics class?
JackS on June 28, 2007 at 1:03 PM
Until everyone on this forum calls and writes like they did for this bill for our troops you are the same hypocrites you claim are in office today.
I will say it over an over until you get it. you are lying if you say you are. So while your writing that email or phone call add the troops to it. Pat yourselves on the back for a job not yet done. Not even close.
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:03 PM
crazy_legs, if you never want to lose an argument about illegal immigration ask the person you are talking to what our laws should look like in regards to illegal immigration. Ask them, if you think our laws need to be reformed, what would you reform them into? They won’t be able to come up with anything different then what we currently have. At that point you can inform them that what they just recommended is that the solution to all our problems is to enforce the laws on the books. You can get into details all you want and go back and forth until you both turn blue in the face but nothing will effect them more then the realization that their recommendations are already the law of the land.
Zetterson on June 28, 2007 at 1:04 PM
Hooray! I was an official stalker of Webb’s telephones yesterday, glad he got the message since I’m sure I wasn’t the only one.
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 1:04 PM
Hurrah!!
Now lets enforce the borders first; Allow legal immigrants in and deport those that are here illegal.
MarkB on June 28, 2007 at 1:04 PM
BacaDog on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM
…we can add Brownback to this list - what a weasel.
Perfect morning to be bogged down with major projects at work. I’m sure you’ve said it all.
Lesson #1 - how not to ram anything down the throat of the American people, in the shadows of the esteemed hallways of our institutions.
World take notice. This is still the U.S. of A.!!!
Entelechy on June 28, 2007 at 1:04 PM
Gosh…I think some are confused on this issue. Before..a vote for YES…meant nah…not good….A vote for YES..this time…mean yeah….this is good. No wonder some of them always look like they are scratchin their noggins. In any case…yeah….we won ….this round anyhow.
hotvol on June 28, 2007 at 1:05 PM
I’m just getting around to the news myself and I’ve gotta say I’m feeling MUSCULAR, if UNTAMED! WOO HOO!
see-dubya on June 28, 2007 at 1:06 PM
There are some issues that we all have opinions on, but we all agree that these issues are “non-essential, non-vital” for our country. We hold our opinions loosely in our left hand.
But then there are urgent and pressing issues that we all
have (or should have)convictions that are “essential and urgent” for our country. We hold these convictions firmly in our right hand.
Specter not only disagrees with us on our opinions, but also the key core convictions that we hold in our right hand.
Maybe all of us should have supported Rep. Pat Toomeya few years ago.
Opinions are one thing. All of us revise occasionally our opinions. But convictions, our “core essentials”, we hold firmly and stand our ground on, no matter what.
If we cannot even agree on the “essentials”, then why have you in our party?
ColtsFan on June 28, 2007 at 1:06 PM
I’m so proud of everyone who put principle above loyalty to the President to defeat this bill. I’ll still voice support for him in the war against terror…but he broke my heart in this matter.
deedledee on June 28, 2007 at 1:06 PM
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 12:53 PM
Am not…..I’m just overjoyed that the publics voice was finally heard on this issue and I am letting everybody know just how happy I am. Plus I really want to thank Allah for all the really great work he did here both in keeping us informed and in motivating people to make their voices heard……..Damn good job AP…….
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 1:06 PM
As an American with a Legal immigrant spouse, I feel that there’s hope now. This issue was lasting way too long. It would have been a hard blow to all those who followed the very restrictive (for a reason) steps to be awarded the Resident status, plus fees, lines, and an awful lot of time, be able to pass a background check and prove your honorability. Thanks.
mile66 on June 28, 2007 at 1:07 PM
The issues of racism and ignorance that were raised were themselves racist and ignorant. I am not against the orderly legal entry of immigrants. The Mexican populous in particular due to their close geographic proximity are the obvious majority of this group. We need a comprehensive bill that would include the proper waiting time for background checks along with the implementation of citizenship classes and an OATH swearing allegiance to the good old USA as was the procedure in the past. If the exodus is slowed for the purpose of assimulation then I would be agreeable to the entry of the Mexicans. The mass exodus we now are experiencing not only is a blantant disregard of the soveriengty and laws of the US but threatens to overwrite the English langaage. This exodus also lowers our living standards. We do not poop outside. It also weakens the resolve of the law enforcement community, by giving a pass to lawbreakers.
sonnyspats1 on June 28, 2007 at 1:07 PM
Also..I’d like to add…I thought this was kind of funny. Did yall see when Sessions said that AM radio knew more about the Bill and it’s content..along with the ammendments..than Congress did??!!! Classic!
hotvol on June 28, 2007 at 1:07 PM
Translation = “Even if you say you get it I’m not shutting up and will continue to regurgitate the Administration’s talking points over and over and over and over and over again, all the while insulting all of you“
crazy_legs on June 28, 2007 at 1:09 PM
Now you all will begin acting like senators…that is your problem
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:09 PM
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:03 PM
STFU and STFD…You didnt get your amnesty and now your going to get deported…boo.frinin.hoo
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 1:10 PM
Power to the people..err or “simpletons” to quote dirty harry
Twoconservative on June 28, 2007 at 1:10 PM
Good job soldiers! What the hell was Bushco thinking?
Stay vigilant! They are coming after our radios, but we won’t be silenced.
Im_no_dhimmi on June 28, 2007 at 1:11 PM
*Sigh*
Odd, though, that it’s actually warmer up here in Maine at the moment.
I blame Al Gore.
Slublog on June 28, 2007 at 1:11 PM
Actually, we’re more powerful than senators. We’re citizens.
Slublog on June 28, 2007 at 1:12 PM
I’m a Soldier’s Angel. What about you, Tomas?
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 1:13 PM
Excuse me for being beneath you senator.
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Slublog on June 28, 2007 at 1:11 PM
Heh heh it’ll hit about 90 this afternoon around 2:00 or so, and boy is that ice cold Sam Adams going to really taste good then……
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Do they still have civics class?
JackS on June 28, 2007 at 1:03 PM
Good question. We used to give them to immigrants too , with a swearing in to citizenship that included an oath of allegiance to the US.
sonnyspats1 on June 28, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Cornyn R-TX is a real hero. He started working with the “bi-partisan” Masters of the Universe. When he saw the dung-heap they turned out he left the dark side. McCain abused him. Screw McCain!! Cornyn deserves my gratitude, and he’ll get it.
jaime on June 28, 2007 at 1:15 PM
Duh, it’s obviously another Rovian plot…or maybe Leonardo DiCaprio’s fault??
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 1:15 PM
AMEN!
Keli on June 28, 2007 at 1:16 PM
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Umm, no I dont think so, in fact I just plain dont think there is any excuse for you at all. I donate to the Wounded Warriors Foundation, what the f$ck do you do…
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 1:16 PM
What was frustrating when I was debating that co-worker is that’s exactly what I did. And that was the point that he turned his back on me and started saying “Oh Kayyyyy, Oh Kayyyyyy.” (I can’t get his tone down here in text, but let me just say it was completely arrogant). He totally dismissed the laws I was bringing up and said that nothing could be enforced without amnesty (of course, he didn’t call it amnesty. He also dropped the ol’ can’t deport 12mil card). That’s when I threw out “What will you do when your job is one that Americans won’t do.” Stopped him dead in his tracks. I’ve used that one a few more times since then on other people and it really does bring things to a screaching halt.
crazy_legs on June 28, 2007 at 1:16 PM
Fun Time: “Hear that Mr.Anderson”,”That’s the future Mr.Anderon”,”Good-bye Mr.Anderson”…”My name is Neo”..we will always defeat the Agent Smith’s just need a leader..OK fun time over back to work..
Legions on June 28, 2007 at 1:16 PM
Now you all will begin acting like senators…that is your problem
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:09 PM
HMM Senator Sonny I like it!
sonnyspats1 on June 28, 2007 at 1:17 PM
Tomas. Join up and ruck up tough guy.
crickets…
Yeah that’s what I figured.
Trooper on June 28, 2007 at 1:17 PM
Bond’s my Senator, and you couldn’t get through to his DC office for the past three days. It obviously had an effect.
Jeffersonian on June 28, 2007 at 1:18 PM
Do you all write to your reps like you have on this issue…I don’t remember this many posts for any other issue period. You say you are doing this and that well do more…you aren’t doing what you did on this bill…get that through your thick skulls.
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:18 PM
This Blog should be the crawl on C-SPAN!!
Someware their are teachers that are horrified and amazed but i could not be more proud of you all!
Innovations on June 28, 2007 at 1:20 PM
It is important to remember that in 2006 Kyl ran on a “border enforcement” theme, and he won in a year in which the GOP suffered losses. Kyl won BECAUSE of folks like us.
Now, he is breaking his promises.
Remember, border enforcement, for Kyl, means “passing amnesty legislation and, in return, pay lip service to border enforcement by talking about MERE 350 mile fence.”
The border is longer than 350 miles!! What about Visa over-stays?
We need to take action. We need to develop a website, pool our resources, and find a primary challenge for Kyl. But first, we have 2 other priorities:
Lindsey Graham, Republican from South Carolina.
And we need to fund and support Jon Bruning against RHINO Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.
Let’s go RHINO hunting.
1.
ColtsFan on June 28, 2007 at 1:21 PM
Drudge links to The Hill quoting Graham as follows:
Why, exactly, can’t a future bill be better? Is Graham banking on Democrats winning larger majorities in the next election? Nothing would have guaranteed that better than Republicans supporting this POS bill.
Why not, I don’t know, go back to conservative values, the type which win with the public, and then, dream with me, WIN BACK THE FUCKING CONGRESS so that a better, genuinely conservative approach can be tried?
Kensington on June 28, 2007 at 1:22 PM
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:18 PM
There are many on this board that have done more than write of our support for the troops or GWOT-some have actually put our money where our mouth is and served in the current conflict.
That said, would you be kind enough to close your pie hole and stop trying to infect us with your jack8assery?
Trooper on June 28, 2007 at 1:22 PM
tomas, to be cursed by you is an absolute honor!
Troops, I love you and I support you with all my heart, will, rationale, soul, and above all my freedom, which you protect, and for which I’ll be eternally grateful. You also protect the other half of the country and the misguided ones like tomas. For that and 1001 other reasons you are our heroes, and so much superior to all of us!!!
OT - all - please get off that single-threded horse or mantra of “build the fence”. The number one issue is the super-magnet - employers who hire illegal skilled and unskilled labor. Yes, the fence is important, or the protection of the border by any means. However, until this law of punishing employers is not put into effect, no means, and no fence will stopp this invasion. Which bring up another point. Please quit calling it anything but an invasion. As the media and politicians establish ‘talking points’ so can we. And we are better at it, and see how effective!
I’m so happy this is happening now, all of it: the liberal congress, the conservative near-divorce, the soul-searching for what really matters. If we don’t follow our laws and our principles, what are we teaching the rotw? Drink the water while we get stupefied on wine?
Entelechy on June 28, 2007 at 1:23 PM
Just received this!!!!!! THE BALLS these clowns have amazes me!!!!!!!!!!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 28, 2007 at 1:24 PM
Yeah, let’s go RINO hunting! That wuss Grahamnesty has GOT to go.
And let’s make sure the people know it was the DEMOCRATS Dingy Harry & Ted the Snorkel who spearheaded this monstrosity.
They’re gonna try to say it was a Republican bill, but it was bipartisan, and the libs deserve a fair share of the blame. This bill would never had made it to the floor if it wasn’t for Harry Reid and the Dems.
Iblis on June 28, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Hey guys, I just thought about something. I wonder what Geraldo is thinking? Do you think he busted a tear? I might try to catch FOX tonight to see if he shows up. If not I will tivo his show this weekend. I am sure he is crushed.
chief on June 28, 2007 at 1:25 PM
I will go away when I feel that you all are putting forth the same effort which you are either drunk or stupid or lying to say your are in totality. Don’t treat me like the senators who dismissed you. Admit you are wrong and be a part of the surge.
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 1:26 PM
Now would be a great time to start faxing the following to the President and both houses:
Build the fence now!
Pulchritudinous Patriot on June 28, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Can we use our people power now to squeeze Lott out of his leadership role now?
Mark V. on June 28, 2007 at 1:28 PM
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