10:30 10:50 a.m.: Cloture 2 — Something Wicked This Way Comes; Update: Ensign will vote no, Cochran may vote yes; Update: What’s your alternative, asks Teddy — a Gestapo? Update: 53 NO’S — CLOTURE FAILS! Update: Roll of glory added!
posted at 9:27 am on June 28, 2007 by Allahpundit
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We’re prepared for any contingency. Victory means a Humpbot cameo; defeat means I get tanked on hard liquor in the middle of the day. It’s win/win, really. The boss has already done a quickie round-up of stories this morning predicting the bill’s demise. John Hawkins’s Senate source lends his voice to the chorus:
To begin with, my source said he is guardedly optimistic that the bill will fail the 2nd cloture vote tomorrow. That is because he thinks that some of the senators who voted for cloture on Tuesday were doing so because they were being “senatorial” by allowing a debate. But, that only goes so far, and everyone realizes at this point that the Thursday vote is the final vote on amnesty as far as the base is concerned. In other words, a “yes” on cloture is a “yes” to amnesty.
At that point, I asked about the “fool the yahoos” maneuver. Will there be senators voting “yes” on cloture and then voting against the final bill and hoping that they can avoid being tagged as supporting amnesty? He said that because of all the attention this issue has gotten, the base isn’t going to be fooled and that anyone who does that will just have to hope that his election isn’t close enough that thousands conservatives sitting at home can swing it the other way.
McCain’s Iowa campaign chairman told WaPo yesterday he wished the issue of immigration had never come to the floor. As for St. John’s crony-in-chief, he’s featured prominently in the Times’s story this morning about senators being threatened by nutjobs angry over the bill. See-Dub will clue you in to the agenda behind the piece if you haven’t guessed already, but here’s your quote of the day from the man who once derided amnesty opponents as “bigots” before a crowd of swooning La Raza members:
“One of the requirements of public service in modern America is dealing with a few voices that are full of hate,” Mr. Graham said. “And our discourse and the way we politic, the way we engage each other, brings that out.”
It’s bringing something out: according to freshman Blue Dog Jon Tester, the feedback he’s getting from constituents is more overwhelmingly opposed on this issue than it is on Iraq, where public opposition currently hovers in the mid- to high-60s.
Updates will be flying fast and furious in an hour or so. I’ll do my best to liveblog the vote, although on Tuesday they didn’t repeat each senator’s vote after calling his/her name so it may not be possible. While you wait, read John Shadegg’s nightmare scenario at NRO about the various loopholes built into the bill that would let illegals caught while sneaking across the border nonetheless obtain legal status. Oh, and read this piece at Politico, which is comic in its adulation of Ted Kennedy even by normal media standards.
Humpbot waits in the wings, wondering if it’s his time to shine. Exit question: Pelosi and the gang deserve a pay raise, don’t you think?
Update: Here’s a no we weren’t counting on — Ensign has flipped. Don’t fear the reaper!
Update: They’re trying to flip Thad Cochran the other way now. If my vote tally last night was right, then we don’t need him.
Update: This must be one of those “voices of hate” Lindsey Graham was wringing his hands about. This debate was Godwinned weeks ago; might as well keep it up to the bitter end.
How many times does Teddy need to be told “close the borders first” before he grasps that that’s the alternative?
Update: Reid’s taken abuse, Bush has taken abuse, McCain and Graham and Kyl and Martinez have taken abuse enough for a lifetime, but one guy has stayed miraculously clean even though he’s sat idly by and let this sham take its course despite the uproar from his base and the pleas from Sessions et al. Save a little bile for him.
Update: How absurd has it gotten?
In case you didn’t catch this, the opponents of shamnesty are rushing through their statements because the Grand Schemers have only given them 10 minutes to speak. The shamnesty senators will get the rest of the hour to talk. “Typical,” says Session, of the way this debate has gone. And so starkly absurd. You’ve got the pro-amnesty senators on the floor now all bleating about how debate shouldn’t be ended…having just limited their opponents’ time to a measly 10 minutes.
Update: Here we go. Standby for liveblog totals.
First run-through is 19-21. Webb voted no! I think most of them deliberately haven’t voted yet, though, so that they can see what the first totals look like and then vote accordingly.
25-30 now! Humpbot is warming up…
31-38! TWO MORE.
I count fully 53 no’s. We did it.
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Update: Here’s the roll. Gonna go do the cross-check to see who switched.
Update: The yes/no switchers were Bingaman, Bond, Brown, Brownback, Burr, Coleman, Collins, Domenici, Ensign, Harkin, McConnell, Murkowski, Ben Nelson, Pryor, Stevens, Voinovich(!), Warner, and Webb. Republicans are in boldfaced. I guess you can thank Sean Hannity for shaming Voinovich into flipping.
It’s worth going back and looking at the order in which they voted, to see who held back and waited to gauge how the vote was going before casting his/her ballot. I’ll bet Mitch McConnell was one of them.
Update: Well, well. Brownback initially voted yes — and then switched to no when he realized he was going to lose. Disgraceful.
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That’s not a loss…that’s a f’n beating. USA!
LtE126 on June 28, 2007 at 11:55 AM
Bring on the robot!!!
reppac122 on June 28, 2007 at 11:55 AM
Use the momentum to push BORDER ENFORCEMENT now.
Clark1 on June 28, 2007 at 11:55 AM
Thank God for big favors. I am somewhat amazed by the amount of backbone displayed. In the end I see the real issue as those bastards doing this deal behind closed doors, limited debate and arm twisting as a replusive display of politics — the blogs and talk radio are the champions of this debate by bringing it into the light.
jimwesty on June 28, 2007 at 11:56 AM
(set to church hymn) Hallelujah! Hallelujah!….Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Halle-e-juh!
A great victory, but the battle for enforcement of current laws rages on…..
dandy on June 28, 2007 at 11:56 AM
You can have him. With my regards. Please.
wccawa on June 28, 2007 at 11:56 AM
OK. We won. Yippee. Now, what?
I think “what” oughtta be breaking this big Piece-of-Keith-Olbermann comprehensive bill into four parts: a Border Security bill, a guest worker bill, an immigration reform bill, and a deal-with-the-illegals-already-here bill.
Let each part be debated fairly and openly, and let the chips fall where they may.
V the K on June 28, 2007 at 11:56 AM
We did it!
My senator (Salazar-CO) didn’t listen, but oh well…
craig on June 28, 2007 at 11:56 AM
Let’s see…It’s not even mid-day so far and here’s what we’ve got…
The American people have spoken and amnesty is dead.
Humping Robot. Your found fathers never had it this good
Supreme Court votes FOR equality.
Wow, I can’t wait fot the 2nd half of this day!!!!!
HarryStar on June 28, 2007 at 11:56 AM
I like how Kennedy said kicking the illegals out would cost $250 billion. Isn’t that ALOT cheaper than the $2.5 trillion the Heritage Institute forecasted passage of this bill would cost the taxpayer? Kennedy should jump in that lake he killed that lady in and lay there for awhile.
dawgsleadtheway on June 28, 2007 at 11:56 AM
Formal vote count will be published on the Senate site in about an hour. Can’t wait to see it in black and white.
Can’t wait to send thanks to the Nays.
Can’t wait to vote out the Yeas.
BacaDog on June 28, 2007 at 11:56 AM
What AP calls “defeat”, Teddyquiddick calls lunch.
Kid from Brooklyn on June 28, 2007 at 11:57 AM
SWEET!!! We have our country back!
ophelia on June 28, 2007 at 11:57 AM
I’ve been saying that ever since I knew his dog’s name is Splash. God, he shoulda just named it Delta and been through with it.
Bad Candy on June 28, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Your guys are still nuts and don’t have a clue what to do next. Start calling everyone to support our troops that would be a good start. You have no excuses now….do your job or you are against them. There are no excuses. you have done near what you did for this bill…curse you all.
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Great Job Everyone!
Thanks Rush, Hot Air, and Laura and everyone of us who talked this issue up.
Its not only a Victory but proof that we all function as a voice.
amend2 on June 28, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Ah, I just want to do a Cartman-esque gloat now and taste the sweet milk of the tears of the race-baiting amnesty shills.
And in my best Bob Dylan, I want to say to the race-baiting amnesty shills … HOW DOES IT FEEL!!!!!!
thirteen28 on June 28, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Just got back from flight line to see the good news. Smurf Yea!
BadgerHawk on June 28, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Given the fact that Amnesty Mel was brought in as GOP chair in order to champion this comprehensive POS, isn’t it time to call for him to step aside…in the name of intraparty reconciliation?
Kid from Brooklyn on June 28, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Now can we please build a double fence with a road in between that covers the entire length of the Southern border. Now can we please crack down on businesses hiring illegals?
Where do you think we are headed from here? We know the open borders sell outs are not going to quit now. Any predictions?
Zetterson on June 28, 2007 at 11:59 AM
We need a full list of those slugs who switched their vote once they knew it was over. We can’t let them take credit for defeating this once their pants were soiled.
I’m ashamed to say it, but I was born in NJ, and live in PA! So, for most of my life (with the exception of Santorum) I’ve not had representation in the Senate. Guess I’ll just have to go and represent myself!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 28, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Haha, well I don’t live there anymore but I will take him. Someone’s gonna get the pork, it might as well be a super poor state that can actually use it for good, not just some liberal experiment.
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:00 PM
He’s on this page now. Scroll up to just above where the Blowback begins.
RushBaby on June 28, 2007 at 12:00 PM
I’d like to give everyone a thumbs up. But, lets keep the ball rolling. I’m going to keep calling every day demanding that the boarder be secured.
JackS on June 28, 2007 at 12:00 PM
The next battle is 2008. Vote in the primaries to remove republicans and in the general election to remove democrats who backed this.
William Amos on June 28, 2007 at 12:04 PM
Is it ok for me to say that I hate Sam Brownback? What a spineless tool he is.
Zetterson on June 28, 2007 at 12:05 PM
Don’t stop as if we really won anything. we need to contact the leaders that voted against this abomination to immediately submit a real immigration bill. Lets keep the fire up and submit a bill that actually serves the american public.
Trooper on June 28, 2007 at 12:05 PM
A.K.A Mel Martinez - don’t you have some family members that need to pack?
jeffNWV on June 28, 2007 at 12:05 PM
Thank God it failed. Why do they keep on voting Kennedy in? Im so sick of that douche bag!
patriot2001 on June 28, 2007 at 12:06 PM
How about such a surge in support of our soldiers…If you say you have you are a goddamn liar!
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Celebrate nationally, fight locally.
MamaAJ on June 28, 2007 at 12:07 PM
Well, you’re in better shape than I am. Born and raised in NYC and spent my entire life there until moving to NJ a couple of years ago. From the frying pan into the fire.
Watch. My husband will get transferred to Boston. Story of my life.
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 12:08 PM
You all know you can watch the humpbot at YouTube… Is it some badge of honor that it be posted?
HYTEAndy on June 28, 2007 at 12:08 PM
No joke.
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 12:09 PM
Teddy K and Jeffy S–option 2= order more paperless electronic voting machines..Will your vote count next time I doubt it.
Legions on June 28, 2007 at 12:09 PM
Yes…
heatherrc77 on June 28, 2007 at 12:09 PM
Voinovich still has to go bye-bye.
Specter too.
saint kansas on June 28, 2007 at 12:10 PM
Absolutely, it’s the celebratory mark.
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 12:10 PM
It’s been crawling for me for about a week now.
StephC on June 28, 2007 at 12:10 PM
I guess this means they move on to more important legislation
House members seek $4,400 pay raise
William Amos on June 28, 2007 at 12:10 PM
Next get the lawmakers to enforce the previous legislation and build the damn fence and get serious about enforcement.
Watch out for the Fairness Doctrine
And is it alright if I just IM or email the troops since calling is so expensive?
LakeRuins on June 28, 2007 at 12:10 PM
That is what I call a beat down. Standing ovation for everyone for their effort. So much for the racist fringe element in America. Great job!! My question is what do we do now? Do we forgive the turncoats, or do we put the pressure on them in the primaries in 08. I still have a hard time imagining I will support Burr ever again. I do not care that he changed his vote today. Well today is a day to celebrate. Proud to be an American!! See what we can do when we put our heart and soul into something.
chief on June 28, 2007 at 12:11 PM
Huh. Collins crossed. It’s about time she realized she was a Republican.
Slublog on June 28, 2007 at 12:11 PM
Forget new laws for this year, just put the pressure on the Administration to enforce some of the ones we already have. Not all of them, no that would be expecting too much. Just pick a few and run with ‘em.
MamaAJ on June 28, 2007 at 12:11 PM
Same familiar list of self serving, imitation Republicans voting for cloture, including McCain and his lapdog Graham.
rplat on June 28, 2007 at 12:12 PM
In our celebration, let’s neither forget nor forgive Lindsey Graham. I’m not a SC resident, but I think we need a letter writing campaign to potential Republican primary opponents for Graham.
“Ceterum censeo Graham esse delendam,” as Cato the Elder would say.
thuja on June 28, 2007 at 12:12 PM
Slublog, go to Michelle’s, sounds like she got pounded by angry calls and caved.
Bad Candy on June 28, 2007 at 12:13 PM
?? Are you serious?
Btw: this was a sprint, support for the troops is a marathon. Support manifests differently, imo, and that’s all I’m gonna say on that in this thread.
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 12:15 PM
I’ve heard and read the one’s in our state were made in So.America.
Legions on June 28, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Right back at ya.
God Bless the United States of America: A nation of laws.
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 12:15 PM
So it turns out, according to what I was able to get from you wonderful live-bloggers (Jimmy Stewart would say, “Aw, I could just kiss ya!”), that according to Harry Reid, I’m a racist who doesn’t know what I want. I’m against it, but I’m really for it, I just don’t know it. But I’m a racist so obviously I’m really against it. Got it?
Brownback is so done in the presidential race, if he wasn’t before, and I think his political career as a credible conservative, at least, is also down the drain. Maybe they’ll start a Vacillation Party, and he can team up with Kerry, and the other six “I voted for it before I voted against it” crowd. The Vacillation Party: you’ll like us–tomorrow. The Vacillation Party: small but ineffectual.
smellthecoffee on June 28, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Gregg (R-NH) will never get my support again.
Patrap on June 28, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Hilarious, didn’t even get enough votes/majority to have passed if this was the final vote!!
Hah, Hah, hah, hah! Majority of senate wasn’t even behind it!!!
SSG Fuzzy on June 28, 2007 at 12:16 PM
This shouldn’t have required the kind of pressure we’ve had to assert. We shouldn’t have to be at war with our own senate.
The ones who voted right deserve thanks, but only a little, because they only ended up doing what was right in the first place.
Anyone who required arm twisting should still be voted out.
Kensington on June 28, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Heck no, we never support the turncoats again (at least not those who voted for cloture today, they’re a lost cause). This is our chance to show these people we have excellent memories and that we were not messing around when we said we would never vote for these imbeciles again.
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Allahpundit
Well I’m gonna go get me a couple of Samuel Adams Boston Lagers and celebrate this wonderful thing that Samuel and his brother John helped give birth to. Here is to the Adams brothers, the Republic that they founded and the American people who made it work the way they intended, and here is to Allahpundit Michelle and HA for nudging us into making John and Samuel Adams proud of us today……
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 12:17 PM
I was SO hoping for humping robot today!
nailinmyeye on June 28, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Awesome. I’m still hoping we find a primary challenger for her, though - she’s not to be trusted.
Slublog on June 28, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Outstanding!, no thanks to my two dimwit Senators Durbin & Obammessiah. Never had my vote, never will!!
notashamed on June 28, 2007 at 12:19 PM
Hear, hear. Cheers
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 12:19 PM
tomas on June 28, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Go away, troll.
.|..
thirteen28 on June 28, 2007 at 12:19 PM
Stick a fork in McCain. Although I suppose he was already finished as a Presidential candidate before this bill.
Pitter09 on June 28, 2007 at 12:20 PM
Aww, looks like somebody will be spending the rest of the day writing bad poems on his livejournal and listening to Fallout Boy…
Bad Candy on June 28, 2007 at 12:20 PM
Tomas, our soldiers are Americans. Stopping this bill is a victory for them too. Talk to them, you will find out that just about every one of them was cheering on our efforts to stop this bill. Why it is you don’t think we can stop this Amnesty bill and support our troops comprehensively is confusing to those of us who think.
Zetterson on June 28, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Mr. Graham, my family and friend in South Carolina will remember this day…the day you voted “YES” to allow illegal immigrants amnesty. Your ass is French toast in South Carolina! Good riddance you back-stabbing fool!!
SouthernGent on June 28, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Enforce the laws we have now.
Build a wall and secure the borders.
Mr. Bingley on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM
I’m relieved, much relieved. The people were heard.
BUT, It really shouldn’t have to be this frickin difficult for our ELECTED SENATORS / REPRESENTATIVES to do what the people want them to do. This was dangerously close to a government of the government, not the people.
Don’t let this die down. Washington MUST listen to the people.
Now. BUILD THE DAMN FENCE.
China built 6000 miles of fence, 3000 of it in 10 years in 220to 210 B.C. B.C. -
(if I remember correct)
2200 years ago , 3000 miles of fence in a decade. And Kennedy says we can’t do that now?
shooter on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Grrr…Stupid job, I’m missing out on all the fun!
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Here are the Yes votes cast by Republican Senators:
Bennett (R-UT)
Craig (R-ID)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
BacaDog on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM
True that. I’d love to see Specter and Casey booted for some decent candidates, but I’m not real sure who.
Bad Candy on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Hey, Allah, I think there’s finally a thread bigger than the Christian vs. Atheist threads.
Esthier on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Allah? what about Getting drunk AND watching the H’bot? This Victory Deserves THAT much!!!
Razgriez on June 28, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Well said.
Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 12:23 PM
oh yeah, and ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS !
go Tanc.
shooter on June 28, 2007 at 12:23 PM
654 Comments must be a record…oops 655!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 28, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Haven’t you been listening? They’re never going to build a fence and they’re never going to stop illegal mexicans from coming here. The government has never made any attempt at enforcing the immigration laws and they never will. Yes we dodged a bullet this time but we still have 20 million people here illegally bleeding us dry and 20 million more are on the way.
I’ll say it again, none of us will see a fence on that border in our lifetime.
repvoter on June 28, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Maybe they just want to get re-elected in order to better serve their
constituents, er, benefactors.elvis on June 28, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Sign of the times
CNN
William Amos on June 28, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Yay! You get ‘em, robot!
frankj on June 28, 2007 at 12:25 PM
Excellent point!
speed911 on June 28, 2007 at 12:25 PM
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Heh heh I’ll drink one of them in your honor…As Sean Hanity would say…Your a GREAT American hollygolightly…
doriangrey on June 28, 2007 at 12:26 PM
I still wanna see what PRCal and Unamused and whoever else is helping come up with in terms of how much these assclowns were bought for.
Bad Candy on June 28, 2007 at 12:27 PM
P.S. Where do I go to apply for the Gestapo bus driver position?
It’s one of those jobs that illegals just won’t do.
saint kansas on June 28, 2007 at 12:27 PM
YES! “This is our chance to show these people we have excellent memories” is such a great point. We must not forget those who have showed themselves to be traitors to our country. Allowing these elitists to be voted back into office after all of this would be a complete tragedy and opportunity lost. We need to show these Senators that no Amnesty applies to them as well.
Zetterson on June 28, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Many others have stated it, but worth stating again and again and again.
This is what we want
To Kennedy: First, secure the borders, than we can talk about the other “things”.
It is that simple, just protect and defend the borders of the United States of America.
right2bright on June 28, 2007 at 12:28 PM
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Sorry Sen. Sessions earlier . I meant Lidsey G .along with Teddy K my brain has been fried today.
Legions on June 28, 2007 at 12:29 PM
Most of the others are pretty safe, but Graham…he is in trouble. Keep the pressure on him SC.
right2bright on June 28, 2007 at 12:30 PM
I think Allah deserves an IPhone for this. All in favor?
IrishEi on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM
I’ll be happy to start bashing Dumocrats again! The only Republicans I’ll hold a grudge against are the ones that brought race into the issue, or those that said I was too stupid to know what was in the bill:
Graham
McCain
Bush
Chertoff
Chavez.
Fortunately, Graham nor McCain are from my State so I don’t have to worry about stopping their re-election to the Senate. Bush won’t run for anything again. However, we still need to lean hard on Bush and Chertoff to enforce immigration and border security until we get a new Executive. Chavez doen’t exist for me.
WOOOOWOOOOWOOOOWOOOOWOOOO!!!!!
jaime on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM
One thing needs to be addressed though, as I just asked Michelle in her comments section:
Can this victory on cloture be anything other than a hollow victory if Allah doesn’t get his iPhone?
thirteen28 on June 28, 2007 at 12:31 PM
Sorry, just accidentally quoted the second part of both my 12:28 and 12:31 comments.
hollygolightly on June 28, 2007 at 12:32 PM
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