Video: Sen. Inhofe on the SecureBordersNow petition

posted at 9:23 pm on June 27, 2007 by Bryan

I mentioned this anti-shamnesty petition in a post a day or two ago. Unlike the empty boxes that Ted Kennedy and Mel Martinez toted around the other day, the petitions that Inhofe is talking about are real and represent actual, you know, people. What a concept.

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I’m somewhere in those boxes, did it the day you posted it.

bbz123 on June 27, 2007 at 9:27 PM

I think Inhofe is my favorite senator

jp on June 27, 2007 at 9:31 PM

Me too…Proudly!!

tickleddragon on June 27, 2007 at 9:31 PM

hehe…I meant I’m somewhere in those boxes too.. and proud to be there.

tickleddragon on June 27, 2007 at 9:31 PM

Senator Inhofe…God Bless you, too.

tickleddragon on June 27, 2007 at 9:32 PM

The American Heartland, ladies and gentlemen. I think I agree with you jp. OK has it pretty good with Inhofe and Coburn.

Spirit of 1776 on June 27, 2007 at 9:33 PM

I’m in one of those boxes also. Found the link at Numbersusa’s site the day before it was linked here.

xplodeit on June 27, 2007 at 9:37 PM

God bless you too Sen. Inhofe.

Thanks for looking out for the American people.

infidel4life on June 27, 2007 at 9:38 PM

Yeah I signed it as a bigoted citizen of no-standing.

Limerick on June 27, 2007 at 9:38 PM

I signed it with my usual note for decorum.

tomas on June 27, 2007 at 9:43 PM

I’ve never been so happy to vote democrat.

Kini on June 27, 2007 at 9:49 PM

has slublog not signed up cause i thought he was from maine and it seems that no one from maine has signed up

cougfan on June 27, 2007 at 9:53 PM

Signed and sealed. Hope I’m not too late. His map was impressive with all the red flags. Thanks Byran.. (I lost a home to these illegals so I have an axe to grind.)

Legions on June 27, 2007 at 10:05 PM

Oklahoma is blessed to have Inhofe and Coburn as Senators.

Buzzy on June 27, 2007 at 10:13 PM

Listening to the radio every day and I wonde WTF has become of the Republican party. Then I remember my two senators, Coburn (I pray for a speedy, full recovery), and Inhofe. My friends, they are the only reason I am still registered as an elephant.

RiteWingFascist on June 27, 2007 at 10:17 PM

I signed. Too bad both florida senators are lost causes.

lorien1973 on June 27, 2007 at 10:18 PM

Both Inhofe and Coburn have vowed to do what they can to shut down this shamnesty bill. They make an Okie proud. At least on this subject.

thedecider on June 27, 2007 at 10:28 PM

I’m on it … Done.. Next?

TheSitRep on June 27, 2007 at 10:36 PM

Just signed. I’m optimistic it will sway Sen. Feingold’s vote.

BadgerHawk on June 27, 2007 at 10:38 PM

Signed, sealed, delivered. I’m done!

thedecider on June 27, 2007 at 10:54 PM

I listened to Jim Inhofe and started crying tears of joy, but then I thought of Jeff Sessions, and I stopped.

Jaibones on June 27, 2007 at 11:05 PM

BadgerHawk,

Are you as embarrased as I am to have such a lefty as our “representative” in the senate? What a waste of a senate position. Anyways, I signed it and sent it along to everyone I know that will sign it. Thank you Mr. Inhofe, we need more like you in our government. BTW anyone else look at the rest of the videos in the carousel at the bottom? Whos eew-tube links are these?

NeverSubmit on June 27, 2007 at 11:07 PM

“One of the reasons I believe the spiritual door was opened for an attack against the United States of America is that the policy of our Government has been to ask the Israelis, and demand it with pressure, not to retaliate in a significant way against the terrorist strikes that have been launched against them.”

- Senator Inhofe, discussing why America deserved the 9/11 attacks

You guys should seriously reconsider celebrating this kind of an unhinged religious lunatic. Kind of makes your “blame America first” talking points look pretty laughable. Since, you know, that’s exactly what Inhofe was doing right there.

Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 12:21 AM

Uh, that’s not how I read it. I could be wrong, but that seems to me to be an argument against trying to appease terrorists by persuading Israel to lay off of them. He lays in a spiritual angle but seems to be making a peace through strength argument there–if we’d let the Israelis take care of business we wouldn’t look weak and less likely to defend ourselves against terrorists. It’s similar to the argument that by cutting and running from Somalia, we showed weakness and inspired more jihad. Whatever you think of that argument, that’s very different from the “we had it coming” argument that the left and that the late Rev. Falwell deployed from different angles.

Bryan on June 28, 2007 at 12:47 AM

You know through all of this what amazes me is that we still have some people that put integrity above of greed. People like Sessions, Vitter, Dole and Inhofe, DeMint, and Coburn.

True, some may be doing this to protect their seats but some like Sessions and DeMint seem like they really care about this issue. Gives me some hope in the system.

unseen on June 28, 2007 at 1:07 AM

One of the reasons I believe the spiritual door was opened for an attack against the United States of America is that the policy of our Government has been to ask the Israelis, and demand it with pressure, not to retaliate in a significant way against the terrorist strikes that have been launched against them.”

and this statement is wrong how?

All this says is appeasement doesn’t work. True he threw in God’s name but the basic message is the same. Appeasement gets you attacked. Only way to peace is through strength

unseen on June 28, 2007 at 1:10 AM

I could be wrong, but that seems to me to be an argument against trying to appease terrorists by persuading Israel to lay off of them.

You are wrong. It had nothing to do with foreign policy, and everything to do with Inhofe actually believing that God Almighty parted the clouds, reached down out of the Heavens, pointed, and then, “BAM”, NYC was covered in dust.

By the way, I’m quoting from the conservative-libertarian CATO Institute. Not exactly Media Matters.

http://www.cato.org/dailys/06-04-02.html

If Inhofe was suggesting that “appeasement” was the reason we were attacked, why does he say “spiritual” door? Forgive my “liberal elitism”, but I was unaware that conservatives framed foreign policy matters in terms of “spiritual”. Spiritual doors? This is the reason he said it, his belief in defending Israel is based biblically, not practically or strategically:

In a Senate speech, Inhofe said that America should base its Israel policy on the text of the Bible:

I believe very strongly that we ought to support Israel; that it has a right to the land. This is the most important reason: Because God said so. As I said a minute ago, look it up in the book of Genesis. It is right up there on the desk.

In Genesis 13:14–17, the Bible says:

The Lord said to Abram, “Lift up now your eyes, and look from the place where you are northward, and southward, and eastward and westward: for all the land which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever. . . . Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it to thee.” That is God talking.

The Bible says that Abram removed his tent and came and dwelt in the plain of Mamre, which is in Hebron, and built there an altar before the Lord. Hebron is in the West Bank. It is at this place where God appeared to Abram and said, “I am giving you this land — the West Bank”. This is not a political battle at all. It is a contest over whether or not the word of God is true.

It’s similar to the argument that by cutting and running from Somalia, we showed weakness and inspired more jihad.

Which is also a stupid argument, since we weren’t fighting

jihad

in Somalia, we were fighting secular warlords who actually kept the jihadists at bay, while Republicans back home called for our withdrawal, including George H. W. Bush. You deliberately say “more jihad” as though what happened in Somalia was “jihad”. No one was “inspired” to jihad because of the defeat in Somalia. Your only shred of proof of that is the fact that Osama Bin Laden mocked us for losing soldiers there (which makes sense, since we’re his enemies, and during the Cold War we mocked the Soviets for losing soldiers in Afghanistan. That’s how it works. We like to call this “trash talking”.) For you to say this was “appeasement” would be like claiming that a withdrawal from communist Vietnam was appeasement to Islamic fundamentalists as long as Bin Laden made some video at some point afterward that mocked our failure in Vietnam, regardless of the fact that the Vietnamese War had nothing to do with religion.

Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 1:23 AM

since we’re his enemies

not to interrupt you, but quick question…is he yours?

Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 1:32 AM

No one was “inspired” to jihad because of the defeat in Somalia

you better go read OBL’s speeches than. He specifically stated that this showed we were weak. IN OBL own words

“”So, when they left Afghanistan, they went to Somalia and prepared themselves carefully for a long war. They had thought that the Americans were like the Russians, so they trained and prepared. They were stunned when they discovered how low was the morale of the American soldier. America had entered with 30,000 soldiers in addition to thousands of soldiers from different countries in the world. … As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all its bragging and all that noise it was making in the press after the Gulf War …”

unseen on June 28, 2007 at 1:34 AM

For you to say this was “appeasement” would be like claiming that a withdrawal from communist Vietnam was appeasement to Islamic fundamentalists as long as Bin Laden made some video at some point afterward that mocked our failure in Vietnam, regardless of the fact that the Vietnamese War had nothing to do with religion.

Again your argument is flawed. Our pullout in Vietnam has inspired the Jihadist. The whole battleplan of the jihadists is to wear the American population’s morale down with daily attacks in Iraq until the American population turns against the war. Much like the North’s war plan. The jihadist have not won one battle yet because of their battle plan they are close to winning the war.

unseen on June 28, 2007 at 1:39 AM

Our pullout in Vietnam has inspired the Jihadist

I would love to hear how you came to this brilliant conclusion, then I would love to hear you explain how our (arguable) defeat in the War of 1812 (If the White House is in ashes, it ain’t exactly Mission Accomplished) inspired Jihadists too.

Sorry, you’re just grasping for straws at this point. No one in the Muslim fundamentalist sects actually leapt to their feet after the defeat in Vietnam and said, “We CAN DOOOO ITTT!!!” The Muslims were probably rooting against the communists. Or rooting for us to kill each other.

And you’re also trying to weasel your way out of the basic fact that James Inhofe, whether you like it or not, has a record of religious fanaticism and irrational logic. Connecting “9/11″ with “not sending the Israelis enough tanks” is not the thinking of a rational mind.

Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 1:53 AM

not to interrupt you, but quick question…is he yours?

Great one-liner dude, right out of the right-wing blogger playbook. You side-stepped the debate, which you can’t really reason your way into, and just went for the “yeah but I bet you’re on the side of the terrrrrrrists” jab. Nice one.

I give it two and a half stars.

Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 1:55 AM

Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 1:53 AM

I’m a simple fella. You said ‘forgive my liberal elitism’, well forgive my high school education.

If there is a pack of dogs bothering the herd, and I shoo off the main offender, the rest of the dogs keep coming.
If I kill the SOB the other dogs go away. Doesn’t matter to me if those dogs agreed with each other or not, they were all after the herd.

How Inhofe came to his conclusion doesn’t matter at all to me. It is the conclusion that matters to me. Kill the critter.

I’ll go back to my grits now.

Limerick on June 28, 2007 at 2:03 AM

I became a fan of Inhofe for his stance against the Goracle and ‘man-made’ global warming. This petition makes me like him even more.

dawgyear on June 28, 2007 at 2:06 AM

Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 1:55 AM

Dude. Seriously. I just asked a question. I understand in the heat of the discussion you might think I’m attacking you, and I’ll even grant that you might hear that a lot.

I don’t recognize seeing you post here before, and I was reading you posts and trying to frame your PERSONAL position as opposed to pigeon-holing you. Seriously, dude. Just a question to see where your coming from; if I want to get involved in the ‘debate’, I’m not going to snipe from the sidelines.

Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 2:09 AM

would love to hear how you came to this brilliant conclusion

Ok I’ll take you at face value and believe you want to learn something so I’ll explain.

The jihadists believe they can win if they wear us down. They know that they can not defeat us in a fight.

From our Actions since the PULLOUT of Vietnam, the jihadist has concluded that we are a paper tiger. These actions include but are not limited too:
The Vietnam pullout
The Iran embassy non response,
The non response to Afghanistan invasion by the USSR,
The Pullout of Beirut after our soldiers were blown to bits,
The failure to topple Saddam in 1991
The Pullout of Somalia
The non response to the first world tower attack
The non response to the Cole bombing
The non response to our North African embassies getting blown to bits
The non response to the attempt on Bush 41
The non infantry campaign in Bosnia
The non response to the West Germany night club bombings
Our tepid response to the Lockerbie bombing

All of these together painted a picture for the Jihadists that we are a paper tiger. These events guided their plans up to 9/11.

Their plan thought that 9/11 would make us pull back to our shores. The forceful response to 9/11 was a surprise and caught them off guard. BUT the past events inspired the jihadists during times of low morale.

The increase in poll numbers against the war in Iraq has further cemented in their minds that their basic assumption of us being a paper tiger was correct. They have increased the attacks on civilians in Iraq in response to the poll numbers. These attacks serve no military purpose except to lower our morale.

Do you understand now ….our actions since the early 70′s has and continues to inspire the Jihadist in the belief that we will fold if only they continue to fight. That we will give up and go home. History tells them this. Our actions reinforce this. The only way to persuade them and our other enemies that this is untrue is to fight on when the going gets tough.
Sure we need to change our battle plans since the fight isn’t going to well. But it is no cause to run away with our tails between our legs.

Any thing else will inspire future enemies and dissuade present allies.

History is important. History should be used to guide us so we do not make the same mistakes. You seem like you do not understand history.

unseen on June 28, 2007 at 2:31 AM

And you’re also trying to weasel your way out of the basic fact that James Inhofe, whether you like it or not, has a record of religious fanaticism and irrational logic. Connecting “9/11″ with “not sending the Israelis enough tanks” is not the thinking of a rational mind.

Not in the least. I stated that his statement says appeasement does not work. Now if he wants to include God’s anger into the brew who am I to say he is wrong. Do you know for sure that God did not allow 9/11 to happen. I wasn’t sitting at God’s arm on 9/10, so I have no idea what God allowed to happen or didn’t.

I don’t know if he is correct or not and no one else on this earth knows either.

Now if you don’t believe in God then that is a totally different discussion.

As far as appeasement it has failed EVERYTIME it has been tried throughout the HISTORY of MAN

unseen on June 28, 2007 at 2:39 AM

Unseen, Spirit…….this fella is good. Admit it. Nonfactor has been aced(sorry Nonfactor).

Welcome aboard Fragility. Opening up registration keeps this place hopping.

BBQ and beer on the way!

Limerick on June 28, 2007 at 2:42 AM

Limerick – I’m not trying to knock him down or kidney punch him. I just want to know what he thinks additionally to what he has said. I watched that debate where only 4? of the Dems said that they thought there was a war on terror. That makes it a clarifying question relating to frame of reference in my mind. It’s not disrespectful to ask for clarification.

Allow me to quote the great Patrick Henry:

No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope that it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen, if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve.

Spirit of 1776 on June 28, 2007 at 2:48 AM

I’m with you Spirit! I was just saying it is refreshing to finally get a puncher. We can handle it! Well, maybe! LOL.

Limerick on June 28, 2007 at 2:52 AM

Limerick on June 28, 2007 at 2:42 AM

Pass the BBQ and beer could get interesting in here

unseen on June 28, 2007 at 2:56 AM

I think that since you’ve taken on the subject of Vietnam and radical Islam you might want to tell me why bin Laden said “Rumsfeld is the butcher of Vietnam who has killed more than two million people.” in a 2002 tape aired around the world. Of course the 2 million number is supposed to be the number of N. Vietnamese killed from 1964 till 1974 but it does draw out the fact that Rumsfeld was part of the Nixon White House during part of the war. So al Qaeda knew this, but you hold that “No one in the Muslim fundamentalist sects actually leapt to their feet after the defeat in Vietnam and said, “We CAN DOOOO ITTT!!!” . You might be right but apparently someone has been studying harder than you have on the subject. Vietnam obviously taught some Jihadis that to beat the USA in war all you have to do is enlist the anti American, anti war branch of the Democratic Party to do your dirty work. Of course today we have Pelosi and Murtha swapping spit with the enemy instead of Hanoi Jane Fonda and John Kerry but the effect is apparently the same. The only people I’ve heard compare Iraq to Vietnam was bin Laden and the Democrats.

Buzzy on June 28, 2007 at 2:57 AM

Geeez it is 2am and I got a 7 am run…….gettin old is gettin old. Bar is open. Tabs on me. Later.

Limerick on June 28, 2007 at 2:58 AM

No one was “inspired” to jihad because of the defeat in Somalia.

Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 1:23 AM

I hate to bust your bubble, but the Muslim populations in both Somalia AND Lebanon have grown exponentially, while the former majority Christian population has decreased in similarly huge numbers. The Somalies make up a large portion of neighboring Djibouti and life for non-conforming Muslims is getting as bad for them as it is for the few Christians who haven’t been run out. Jihad has been alive and well in Somalia for a while.

Rugged Individual on June 28, 2007 at 4:22 AM

Imhofe & Tancredo in 2008!

Bigfoot on June 28, 2007 at 8:34 AM

@Fragility on June 28, 2007 at 12:21 AM

Sorry to burst your bubble, but i was in a conference/meeting/visit with Inhofe with a few of my coworkers (He was paying a visit for a charity fundraiser we were a part of). I had actually never heard the quote mentioned, but a coworker did, and asked about it (aside from the “official visit”). The picture you painted is dead wrong.

RiteWingFascist on June 28, 2007 at 8:39 AM

only thing i like about living in oklahoma is inhofe and coburn

and i think fragility needs to take some comprehension lessons inhofe’s statement is exactly the opposite of the blame america crowd. they say the jihadists attack us because of our support for israel. he was saying it is our lack of support (trying to be “humane” and not kill the people that want to kill you)

pmoshields on June 28, 2007 at 8:44 AM

79,000 signatures. I wonder what they figure that relates to in overall support? Is each signature worth 2, 5, or 10 people who can’t access the website or just don’t bother?

csdeven on June 28, 2007 at 9:04 AM

Oklahoma Senators rock! Keep up the good work, boys!

Numenorean on June 28, 2007 at 11:09 AM

Sen. Inhofe is a patriot and we need more Senators like him that have not forgotten the Constitution or the people he represents.

ScottyDog on June 28, 2007 at 6:09 PM