As we finally start to approach the actual primary season, they’re slowly beginning to realize that conservatives couldn’t possibly care less which candidates the TV people tell us are the only ones who we’re supposed to think are “viable.”

And it’s driving them BATTY!

Here is a line from the theme song I picked for fred…
csdeven on June 28, 2007 at 6:57 PM

See what I mean?

So it really isn’t ideology that drives you, but viability?
Freelancer on June 28, 2007 at 4:20 PM

I’m not the type to waste his time and effort on a guy who can’t get elected. Tancredo and Hunter are ten times the candidate the non-candidate fred? is, but they didn’t star on some TV show.

Ideology is a start but then viability has to come into play. After that, the candidates that are ideologically acceptable and are viable, are the candidates who get my attention.

The only thing fred? has going for him is his celebrity status. No experience in any executive capacity and he lobbied against the american people. But that doesn’t stop the groupies from going ape-$hit over the guy.

Here is a line from the theme song I picked for fred?.

“Say, Tara and Billy, have you seen them yet
But they’re so spaced out, freddie? and Equitas
Oh but they’re weird and they’re wonderful
Oh freddie? he’s really keen
He’s got a chevy lease, America fleeced
You know I read it in a magazine
freddie? and Equitas”

So it really isn’t ideology that drives you, but viability? Be consistent. If those who have the MOST ACCEPTABLE message for conservatives aren’t receiving your support, you are helping fulfill that non-viability. Change, and maybe others will change with you.

When these guys say “viability”, they’re referring to what the people on TV are telling them.

Remember, the media have been telling us over and over again who our “Top Candidates” are for more than half a year now. As we finally start to approach the actual primary season, they’re slowly beginning to realize that conservatives couldn’t possibly care less which candidates the TV people tell us are the only ones who we’re supposed to think are “viable.”

And it’s driving them BATTY!

Hunter and Tancredo, unfortunately are not viable.

So it really isn’t ideology that drives you, but viability? Be consistent. If those who have the MOST ACCEPTABLE message for conservatives aren’t receiving your support, you are helping fulfill that non-viability. Change, and maybe others will change with you.

But if it truly is viability that matters most to you, and not substance, then a man who is leading in polls without actually campaigning sure looks viable, eh?

The choice, as always is yours. Substance over viability = Hunter/Tancredo/Huckabee. Viability over substance = Fred!

There’s a third choice. Be completely irrational.

Yes, you are very brave for agreeing with 99% of the HA crowd who thinks Fred is a god

No, that would be Mitt who thinks he’s a god.

No that would be the Ron Paul camp who think Ron Paul is God

quote

before 8:00. Sorry about that.

logis on June 28, 2007 at 1:27 AM

I’m pretty sure I understand

what

he was doing, but wasn’t aware of the mechanism. Thank you for that.

The thing that really made me pause was what he said. I guess it should surprise me. Sounded like he was taking public speaking lessons from the local mortician. Heh.

You say I’m wasting my time bashing fred?. Why is my time wasted yet fred? groupies are not wasting their time? These are all opinions based on our understanding of the facts, exactly what HA is all about.

csdeven,

Based upon the standards you have alluded to requiring of the candidates, and your wish that the best possible candidate emerge as the nominee, why on earth aren’t you spending your time hollering Hunter’s or Tancredo’s name from the rooftops? Why not do something positive?

I’m certain that if you channeled the effort you waste in bashing Sen. Thompson towards raising awareness of the true conservatives among the candidates, one or both of them would be first-tier by now. Your opinion IS that powerful, you know.

Actually I was gonna propose to fred? when that little home wrecker stole him from me. ;-)

csdeven on June 27, 2007 at 10:56 PM

Awesome! Reading all of csdeven’s Fred! posts pays off with a huge laugh.

The video of Reid Bashing Thompson in the news clips was surreal. I must have stared at the screen for more than a minute, thinking I didn’t get the joke or the jab or whatever the heck that was.

I think he was talking to the “fringe anti-American element” moonbats Thompson was referring to.

They were speaking pure Moonbatese. If we had the whole clip (and could stand listening to it for more than a few seconds in a row) you’d see exchanges just like that going on indefinitely.

This isn’t a joke. Those enclaves may seem bizarre, but they actually exist. They’re run like a gigantic group therapy session; they apply the cardinal rule “thou shalt not invalidate”. Except, instead of supporting each other’s FEELINGS, they provide unconditional support of each others THOUGHTS. Basically, the agreement is: “You believe my crazy-ass conspiracy theory, and I’ll believe yours.”

This allows them to run in what engineers refer to as an “open loop.” The theories just get crazier and crazier, and nothing ever gets decided or corrected. Basically, it’s what would happen if you had a whole forum full of csdevens all talking to themselves.

So this exchange went, essentially:

QUESTION: “Fred Thompson says we are bad.”
RESPONSE: “Fred Thompson is bad.”

That single exchange could be repeated over and over again, in a kind of verbal ping-pong, for literally HOURS without ever reaching anything even remotely like a conclusion.

The actual words swapped in and out to make up the concept “bad” don’t matter. It’s only the FEELINGS that count – and no one ever questions them, let alone makes fun of them, no matter how incredibly bizarre the word combinations end up becoming.

I personally would not want these people deciding what rode to take to get to the store. They would get so lost we would end up in South Africa

Yes, you are very brave for agreeing with 99% of the HA crowd who thinks Fred is a god

No, that would be Mitt who thinks he’s a god.

Logis, I watched the video before I posted anything and I’m aware that certain people consistently hijack any discussion of Fred with the same tired accusations. The tone of your message sounds like you might have been a little miffed with me, which I certainly hope isn’t the case because we’re on the same side here. There might be a misunderstanding which I hope we can clear up when I have have more time.

This is the opposite of personal. I’m not the one who’s a retard here; of course I couldn’t give less of a rat’s ass whether someone wants to insult me or not. You were vague about who you were talking about – and THAT is the part I have a problem with.

All that stuff you were saying about “respecting” everyone’s opinions sounded way too touchy-feely. Anyone who tries to claim that EVERYONE deserves respect, deserves none himself.

You got something to say to me – say it to me. You got something to say to the retard – say it to him/her/it. But if all you have to say is “Why can’t we all just get along?” then there’s really no reason to bother saying anything at all.

The video of Reid Bashing Thompson in the news clips was surreal. I must have stared at the screen for more than a minute, thinking I didn’t get the joke or the jab or whatever the heck that was.

Oh. My. God.

Logis, I watched the video before I posted anything and I’m aware that certain people consistently hijack any discussion of Fred with the same tired accusations. The tone of your message sounds like you might have been a little miffed with me, which I certainly hope isn’t the case because we’re on the same side here. There might be a misunderstanding which I hope we can clear up when I have have more time.

CS, you and I have discussed this before and we both know where we stand. We have (so far) been able to discuss the issue with respect toward one another. Don’t forget, you even gave me an award!

Jack Straw, you, on the other hand, seem to be determined to argue rather than discuss the Fred issue. Sorry, I’m not interested. If I want an argument, I’ll call my ex. If I want a lecture, I’ll call my mom.

logis…IMO, you are exactly right about the pre-primary primary and the debates designed by the liberals are pathetic and a waste of everyone’s time. Fred’s decision to stay out of the fray has been a good one.

Thanks for the debate and goodnight. The electric company is set to pull the switch any minute.

Fred is clear and consistent about his opposition to Roe v. Wade, which makes him more pro-life than most Republicans. The policy question I want Fred to answer is whether he will support STATE laws criminalizing abortion once Roe v. Wade is overturned. Does anyone have any indicators on this?

That’s just the chauvenist in me assuming everyone’s a man.
Thankfully they aren’t :)

Actually I was gonna propose to fred? when that little home wrecker stole him from me. ;-)

csdeven on June 27, 2007 at 10:56 PM

You’re a female?

I about as far to the right as I can be and a bible totin’ Christian to boot. I’m very VERY much Pro-life.

… If Fred! is waffling on the Abortion issue I’m okay with that. As long he is for fighting the GWOT…and I mean FIGHTING…then I’m good. THAT is the central issue for me right now. If we lose or quit that fight then nothing else really matters.

Pilgrim on June 27, 2007 at 10:44 PM

No, no. You’re not supposed to think that way. You’re supposed to be an absolutely inflexible, mono-maniacal “litmus tester” who’ll turn on Fred! at the slightest hint that he might have once said something impure!

Liberals: “C’mon; the video splice says he’s evil. Why can’t you religious nutjobs all just do what you’re SUPPOSED to and burn the heretic!?!?”

They don’t get it. And they never will, and that will eat them up inside. It’s 1980 all over again.