You don’t need to be a prophet to look at fred? within the realm of reality and not in the persona he has created through some TV show he was on.

Hehe. Well, at least we have one thing to be thankful for: that the Ron Paul supporters are around to explain the concept of “reality” to the rest of the world.

wouldn’t that technically make YOU the one who’s claiming to be the prophet?

logis on June 27, 2007 at 8:57 AM

You don’t need to be a prophet to look at fred? within the realm of reality and not in the persona he has created through some TV show he was on.

I have been dead on in my assessment of fred? since day one. Almost every single point that I brought up when he first considered thinking about wondering if he needed to contemplate a course of action that might lead him to consider wondering about an announcement that he might think about announcing, has come to fruition.

The groupies cannot see it and even deny all of freds? obvious fakeries. I actually had a groupie tell me that freddie boy doesn’t act for his roles, all he has to do is be himself! These are the people helping to drive his poll numbers. Sorry, but the groupie mentality is for rock stars and movie stars. And you know whats sad? fred? is starting to believe his on BS. Just like these vacuous shallow movie stars.

So, WE are “confused” because we didn’t understand the the precise “definitions” of all these newly-coined variations on your primary epithet — before you just now made them up?

Essentially, that’s the same thing as saying that no one makes sense to you except for the voices inside your head.

Yeah. I use the terms and I get to define them. And now that you’ve been edumacated, if you continue to CHOOSE to be offended, then you do so because you have a desire to be looked upon as a victim.

You ain’t Jesus dude. Climb down off your cross.

Hey, settle down there dude. I never said I was “offended” by the voices; all I said was that we can’t HEAR them until you translate them for us.

And since you bring it up: wouldn’t that technically make YOU the one who’s claiming to be the prophet?

So, WE are “confused” because we didn’t understand the the precise “definitions” of all these newly-coined variations on your primary epithet — before you just now made them up?

Yeah. I use the terms and I get to define them. And now that you’ve been edumacated, if you continue to CHOOSE to be offended, then you do so because you have a desire to be looked upon as a victim.

You ain’t Jesus dude. Climb down off your cross.

There are differences between groupies, fred?heads, and fred? supporters… You two seem to be confusing the three definitions.

So, WE are “confused” because we didn’t understand the the precise “definitions” of all these newly-coined variations on your primary epithet — before you just now made them up?

Essentially, that’s the same thing as saying that no one makes sense to you except for the voices inside your head.

Groupies rent their hair over fred? like the beatles groupies did. Screaming hysterically and crying because of the hollywood-esque appeal to fred?. They use insane spin to spin all negatives into positives.

fred?heads are ideological supporters who understand what he says and denies his checkered history. They are a milder form of groupie.

fred? supporters are those who are waiting for him to announce and are leaning towards him, and don’t believe his negatives are negatives. This is normal for most supporters regardless of the candidate.

You two seem to be confusing the three definitions.

Not really hate, but a lot of condescension towards Mr. Thompson’s supporters. But that’s ok, we’re tough, we can handle it.

Rose on June 26, 2007 at 9:11 PM

What’s the problem? We’re all just a bunch of flighty twits who need the “grownups” to tell us all – over and over and over again – that we’re living a fantasy and we’re about to have all of our silly and completely unfounded hopes and dreams dashed by the “real world” that they understand ever so much better than we can.

All they’re doing is trying to protect us from having our tender little feelings hurt.

How could anyone consider that condescending?

“…but in the general [Fred Thompson’s] going to look and sound too similar to Bush.”
Nichevo on June 26, 2007 at 4:34 PM
I’m still waiting patiently for someone to explain this little gem of wisdom. ‘Cause I don’t have a damn clue what the Hell he’s talking about.

Who’s talking about hate? Why the extreme, when the comment wasn’t phrased that way?

All I’’m suggesting is that people slow down some; we really haven’’t seen Fred under fire. What we’’ve seen so far have been controlled situations: blog postings, prepared speeches, and a (well done) Michael Moore retort by a skilled actor. He could very well be all that he is acclaimed to be, but if he falls short of the superlatives that are being heaped upon him in advance, there’’s bound to be let-down.
I’’m wondering if there isn’’t a seige mentality at play here; we’’ve grown so used to defending Bush when he wouldn’’t defend/explain himself on the WOT, that now any doubts about the number one contender are seen as a continuation of the ““bushitler”” meme

Exactly: that’s been a rhetorical question for about fifty posts now.

It’s always annoying when someone who’s not particularly cogent to begin with insists on making up his own peculiar language without bothering to tell anyone. But, by your brand spanking new definition, Ronald Reagan was the biggest “Bushitler” of all.

You see, what you call “looking like Bush” happens to be the exact same thing that everyone else in the English speaking world refers to as “looking like Reagan.”

Unlike George Bush’s meandering stutter-fests, Reagan’s speeches were downright awe-inspiring. But he met most air-headed press conference questions with a jovial smile, a glassy stare, a hem and a haw.

Which one of those two aspects of what you call Reagan’s “Bushitlerism” were people thinking of when it came time to vote? And which one do people so fondly remember after three decades of personal attacks? I’ll give you a clue: it’s NOT the one you’re fixating on.

And, whether you happen to like it or not, that is exactly what most other people in America are longing for right now.

Hey, this is America, and I’ll fight to the death to preserve anyone’s right to hate Fred Thompson more than life itself.

logis on June 26, 2007 at 5:18 PM

Who’s talking about hate? Why the extreme, when the comment wasn’t phrased that way?

All I’m suggesting is that people slow down some; we really haven’t seen Fred under fire. What we’ve seen so far have been controlled situations: blog postings, prepared speeches, and a (well done) Michael Moore retort by a skilled actor. He could very well be all that he is acclaimed to be, but if he falls short of the superlatives that are being heaped upon him in advance, there’s bound to be let-down.

I’m wondering if there isn’t a seige mentality at play here; we’ve grown so used to defending Bush when he wouldn’t defend/explain himself on the WOT, that now any doubts about the number one contender are seen as a continuation of the “bushitler” meme.

IE…just watch freds? Leno, Robinson, and London Q&A vids. It was embarrassing.

“…but in the general [Fred Thompson's] going to look and sound too similar to Bush.”

Nichevo on June 26, 2007 at 4:34 PM

I’m still waiting patiently for someone to explain this little gem of wisdom. ‘Cause I don’t have a damn clue what the Hell he’s talking about.

If he’s trying to say that Fred Thompson physically LOOKS like George Bush, then I think he deserves a slap from both of them.

The only other candidate who stands out more than Fred Thompson on policy issues is Ron Paul. And I hate to break it to you, but the Democrats pretty much have the lunatic vote sewed up.

The only other possibility is that he’s basing this solely on accents. Because Giuliani’s “tough on terror and limp-wristed on social issues” seems pretty much IDENTICAL to George Bush.

As for the rest of the “ten little indians”, if George Bush snuck onto the stage with them, I’d be hard-pressed to pick him out of that lineup. Come election day, the liberal media will have painted any of them and George Bush into one amorphous mass.

Hey, this is America, and I’ll fight to the death to preserve anyone’s right to hate Fred Thompson more than life itself. Say ANYTHING ELSE you want about the guy, but no one with half a lick of sense can deny for one second that the man stands out like a sore thumb. He couldn’t help that if he wanted to, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want to.

The crazier the hype gets, the more room for disappointment there’ll be, and it’s going to come back to bite him, I think. Not in the primary necessarily, since Republicans are desperate for someone to believe in and will be willing to overlook a lot to make that happen, but in the general he’s going to look and sound too similar to Bush. And if Americans are given a symbolic choice between revisiting the Bush years or the Clinton years…

I hear ya’ Allah — it’s the NY BS-meter thing going off, and there ain’t nothin’ wrong with that.

BKennedy on June 26, 2007 at 1:30 PM

No deal. Keep your fellow east coast RINOs in MA and NYC where they belong and let the actual conservatives pick this one.

FlipFlop Mitt
RINO Rudy
Maverick McCain

Fred!
Fred!!!!
FRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BKennedy on June 26, 2007 at 1:30 PM

They wont do it.

Groupie mentality ya know.

I’ll broker a deal with everyone. Fredheads stop with this Fred! nonsense, and I will cease using Fred?. Deal?

BKennedy on June 26, 2007 at 1:30 PM

There’s a big assumption in here.

Not gonna happen…so wgasa?

tickleddragon on June 26, 2007 at 12:46 PM

Heh, took me a moment, and I’m a retired Sailor.

Of course someone like Sally Quinn would suggest this. Remove the real conservative voice from the Executive branch, and effectively dismiss a major presidential threat by being able to harp on him along with the rest of this administration for the next 16 months.

Rudy/Fred 2008!

Its Tommy on June 26, 2007 at 2:11 PM

Rudy? I thought we were talking about Republican nominees.

Wait… you mean Rudy is a Republican??? I guess they’re letting anyone in the party these days.