Countdown to amnesty; Update: Bush calls bill “amnesty” (sort of); Update: Heart-ache, 64-35; Update: 15 16 Republicans switched from no to yes
posted at 10:16 am on June 26, 2007 by Allahpundit
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The cloture vote’s scheduled for 11:50. Updates will appear here throughout the day. Bush’s people are optimistic — with good reason, says the boss, who has her ear to the ground. Go have a look at NRO’s editorial about the seven senators who could kill the bill outright today: six Republicans plus Jim Webb, who campaigned on an anti-amnesty platform last year. The WashTimes did its own count and sees hope fading:
Opponents of the bill counted about 32 senators prepared to block the bill and another dozen senators they said would swing today’s vote. But The Times found four of those swing votes said they will vote to revive the bill today: Republican Sens. Christopher S. Bond of Missouri and Thad Cochran of Mississippi, and Democratic Sens. Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico and Ben Nelson of Nebraska. Press reports showed others have also said they are likely to vote to revive the bill, including Sen. Richard M. Burr, North Carolina Republican.
Bond’s “yes” vote is the dumbest of all since he’s planning to vote no on the second cloture vote if his amendment — which calls for gutting the whole bill by stripping out the amnesty provision — doesn’t pass. Which it never, ever will. But to throw him and the rest of the anti-amnesty crew a bone, the three amigos have added an extra moronic, meaningless, purely symbolic if not actually self-defeating “touchback” requirement to the bill:
With a crucial test vote scheduled for today, Republican supporters of a sweeping immigration bill threw their weight yesterday behind a significant change to the legislation that would force illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for legal status…
Kyl, Graham and Martinez had already put together an amendment to secure $4.4 billion for border enforcement, create a tracking system to keep tabs on guest workers and permanently bar workers who overstay their visas from returning. Those measures would augment provisions already in the bill to tighten border security and clamp down on employers of illegal immigrants.
Yesterday, the three senators added a provision that would force illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for Z Visas, not just their green cards. With the architects of the bill behind it, supporters predicted that the amendment would pass easily…
Indeed, it was the Department of Homeland Security that wanted legalization not to be contingent on leaving the country, because DHS officials wanted to bring illegal immigrants out of the shadows and into the legal system, Specter said. With the “touchback” requirement, millions may stay underground.
Everyone understand what’s going on here? They’re so eager to pass this piece of shinola, they’re adding provisions that will make it less likely that the bill will actually work just to get the votes needed to pass it. They’re trading practical viability for legislative viability. And it gets worse:
Two thousand more border agents are to be “hired, trained, and reporting for duty,” bringing the number of agents to 20,000; an additional 100 miles of vehicle barriers were just added, bringing that number to 300 miles; and 105 ground-based radar and camera towers are to be built, up from 70 just two weeks ago.
However, one Republican leadership aide told FOX News that the $4.4 billion is not nearly enough money to cover these substantial increases, warning against any guarantee that the provisions will be paid for down the road. “There’s no way that’s enough. So they’ll have to appropriate more, and there’s a big difference between authorizing and appropriating.”
Not nearly enough. Just like with the virtual fence they’re playing with right now in Arizona.
Jim DeMint’s talking tough by threatening to cut off limbs, but I think he knows who’s got the saw here and it ain’t him. Stand by for updates. I make no promises, but if the rabbit is pulled out of the hat and this crap dies today, we may just see a euphoric, celebratory cameo from Humping Robot to herald the victory. In the meantime:
Update: Freudian slip or the usual Bushian malaprop?
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: President Bush has spent a whole lot of time in recent months claiming that the immigration bill isn’t “amnesty.”
But in describing the measure Tuesday morning, an apparent slip of the tongue suggested otherwise — providing fodder for the talk-radio crowd that loathes the bill and wants it defeated in the Senate.
“You know, I’ve heard all the rhetoric — you’ve heard it, too — about how this is amnesty. Amnesty means that you’ve got to pay a price for having been here illegally, and this bill does that,” Bush said, according to the official White House transcript.
Update: A superb post at the Corner by Stanley Kurtz says what I suspect a lot of people — and by “a lot,” I mean millions — are thinking right now.
Somehow this immigration battle feels different. The bill is wildly unpopular, yet it’s close to passing. The contrast with the high-school textbook version of democracy is not only glaring and maddening, it’s downright embarrassing. Usually, even when we’re at each others’ throats, there’s still an underlying pride in the democratic process. This immigration battle strips us of even that pride.
I’m still stuck on the way this bill was going to be pushed through without a public airing of crucial provisions, in the two or three days before Memorial Day recess. But I should be stuck even further back–on the way this bill was cooked up in a backroom deal that bypassed the ordinary process of public hearings. We take them for granted, but those civics textbook fundamentals are there for a reason. We’re going to pay a steep price for setting the fundamentals aside…
Supporters of this bill sell it as a compromise that will heal America’s divisions. I fear it’s quite the reverse. This bill is infuriating the public and undermining faith in government itself. You can see it in the polling on confidence in Congress and the President. If this bill passes, it’s going to aggravate and embitter politics for years to come. Passing a measure over such overwhelming opposition is like slapping the public in the face.
Update: Norm Coleman, facing the onslaught of Frankenmania in next year’s senate election, will vote yes on cloture.
Update: The vote’s coming now. I’m going to liveblog it.
They’re calling the roll now, which, I presume, is just to see if everyone’s present. They’re not announcing how each one voted after reading his/her name so I guess the vote is right after this.
Wait, no — it looks like this is the actual vote. They’re not even announcing the votes as they come in. We’re going to have to wait until all the votes are in.
I count only 29 no’s thus far and most everyone’s voted. Jim Webb just voted yes. We’re going to lose.
Ensign just voted yes.
Update: It wasn’t even close. 64-35. There shall be no Humping Robot today, my friends — nor, perhaps, ever again.
Stand by for the roll.
Update: Like Lowry says, this gives shamnesty a cushion for the do-or-die second cloture vote on Thursday. Even if Sessions and DeMint can peel off a few supporters, the McCainiacs still have 60 to put it through.
Update: Here’s the roll of shame. The cloture vote on June 7th went 45-50; Debbie Stabenow, a Democrat from Michigan, actually switched from yes on that vote to no today. Which means the amnesty wing picked up a cool 20 yeses in the interim: Bennett, Bingaman, Bond, Boxer, Brownback, Burr, Coleman, Collins, Domenici, Ensign, Gregg, Kyl, Lott, McConnell, Murkowski, Pryor, Snowe, Stevens, Warner, Webb.
The boldface indicates Republicans, my friends. Sixteen of them — 15 no/yes switches plus Brownback, who didn’t vote on June 7th. Update: My mistake — I missed that Evan Bayh, like Stabenow, also switched from yes to no. And that Larry Craig switched from no to yes. That makes 17 Republicans who switched.
Update: As mentioned above, the House GOP is planning a resolution this afternoon expressing its displeasure with the bill. According to Boehner, the White House isn’t happy about it.
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Might need the Robot to wash the filth out of my eyes and ears at the end of this day/week.
sunny on June 26, 2007 at 10:21 AM
I need more Malox.
Allah, and HA, thanks for keeping us up to speed on this.
I never thought I would be praying to see the humping robot again.
Limerick on June 26, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Come on, humping robot!
Spirit of 1776 on June 26, 2007 at 10:25 AM
I want that humping robot so bad! errr ahhhh oh jeez.
Zetterson on June 26, 2007 at 10:26 AM
Allah, the people demand the humping robot. LOL.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 10:26 AM
Finally got to register yesterday! Loved your old site, Allah. ‘Tard guilt.
Anyway, the one small consolation I will have if amnesty passes is that I can tell one of my roommates “I told you so”.
TK on June 26, 2007 at 10:29 AM
We trust Allah’s kindness to show us the humping robot.
AlexB on June 26, 2007 at 10:29 AM
The DNC is holding a Republican party suicide watch. Wine and cheese. The Cheshire Cats will be all over the stage holding hands for the cameras.
Limerick on June 26, 2007 at 10:34 AM
I emailed and called Brownback, the weak sister of my Kansas senators. You can do so too. Tell the kid on the phone you’re from Johnson County (in eastern KS, where the money and voters are) and tell him that a vote for cloture is a vote for amnesty. Brownback is supposed to be a conservative but this vote could sink him into the muck with Graham and Diamond Joe Quimby.
(202) 224-6521
Thomas the Wraith on June 26, 2007 at 10:34 AM
Oh geez. Damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
RedWinged Blackbird on June 26, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Total Non-Sequitur - I was scanning The Capitolists to what the lack-wit Hill staffers are saying about today’s vote (if anything) and I learned that today is “Hustler” day.
Apparently Larry Flynnt has every Senator on the Hustler mailing list, and has for years. Now that is funny.
Mindcrime on June 26, 2007 at 10:40 AM
I feel sick to my stomach.
Darksean on June 26, 2007 at 10:40 AM
As McCain passes into oblivion, it interesting in seeing his lap dog, Goober Graham, still looking like a hungry sharecropper knocking on the back door of the big house with his hand out. How does a person of such limited intellectual capacity become a US Seantor? Goober must go.
volsense on June 26, 2007 at 10:52 AM
This man is an idiot. Plain and simple. And he even has the definition of Amnesty wrong. Unreal.
Zetterson on June 26, 2007 at 11:02 AM
It’s so hard now to defend Bush against the libtards who have been calling him stupid for 7 years, because he’s so…stupid.
Jaibones on June 26, 2007 at 11:03 AM
Another Freudian slip from the chimperor.
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 11:03 AM
I have to say, this process has really opened my eyes to the immense arrogance of our elected officials. These people have been voted into office to serve our interests and, as it turns out, they don’t seem to give a damn about our interests. Instead we’re told that we, the general public, are too stupid to know which interests we should have and it’s up to the professional politicians to vote their interests to save us from ignorant, uneducated selves. Pathetic.
I’m almost inclined to believe that some of these senators are purposefully voting opposed to the interests of their constituents for no other reason than that they regard it as an insulting affront that we would actually have the audacity to tell them what to do.
Memo to these jackasses - we hired you. And now that you’ve ceased to do what we hired you to do, we will now fire you at the earliest opportunity.
World B. Free on June 26, 2007 at 11:06 AM
One good thing has come out of this - I’ve been liberated from having to defend the Chimp-in-Chief.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 11:07 AM
naw, just Benedict Boosh with a brain fart.
Wade on June 26, 2007 at 11:09 AM
True True
Wade on June 26, 2007 at 11:10 AM
Ok folks…….I am as disappointed as anyone here. God knows how much I tried to support GW over the years. There are many reasons I feel let down but all the nutroot name calling isn’t doing us any good.
Limerick on June 26, 2007 at 11:11 AM
I’ve been hitting Jim Webb’s office with angry emails over this for the past two weeks. If he wants to be a senator from Virginia, he’d better listen to his constituents or pay the price. If he votes for cloture, every single vote from every single limousine liberal in Northern Virginia won’t save him.
fiatboomer on June 26, 2007 at 11:13 AM
It’s not like I’m joining the other side on Bush. I’m mad because he’s become a member of the other side.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Exactly, its sad isn’t it. They simply don’t care about anything aside from their own egos and personal agendas. Our laws have been crafted for many years by the will of the people for the people. These elected officals have zero respect for the laws. They have zero respect for the constitution, hence they have zero respect for the United States of America. I’m half expecting them to refuse to leave after we throw them out of office.
Zetterson on June 26, 2007 at 11:20 AM
Even the aliens are confused by this bill…..
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=54522&in_page_id=2
Limerick on June 26, 2007 at 11:30 AM
/Bigot
sunny on June 26, 2007 at 11:33 AM
I think it would be fairly ridiculous to say that the US is a representative republic, at this point.
Democracy works on good faith. Take Kyl and Webb, for example. Both campaigned on anti-amnesty platforms and are now doing the exact opposite because K-Street has gotten to them. Sure, we can throw them out of office, but the people we put in will act the same way.
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 11:34 AM
You know Limerick, I’m inclined to agree with you. I want to agree with you but I just can’t. The more I think about it I can’t. I think throughout the first 4 yrs of his presidency I heard all the nutroot lefties calling Bush an idiot and I brushed it off because I just thought he didn’t express himself well verbally. Now after this whole Amnesty GOP sucide mission I see nothing but stupidity and deceipt. Everything else has been ruled out. I’m now forced to look at the situation and realize that he is either deceiving us perposefully or he is an absolute moron. Then I think about Harriet Miers, and I think about Dubai Ports, I think about how he wasted his political capital on social security reform while we are at war, and I think about “your doing a heck of job Brownie”, and I think of his impotence and incompetence in regards to going after left wing criminals and their enablers in the media. After all this I’m forced to read this quote, “You know, I’ve heard all the rhetoric — you’ve heard it, too — about how this is amnesty. Amnesty means that you’ve got to pay a price for having been here illegally, and this bill does that,” Bush said, according to the official White House transcript. I think I can feel safe ruling out puposeful deceipt. Where does that leave us?
Zetterson on June 26, 2007 at 11:37 AM
What is Bush going to say and do next? Is he going to side with the Dems to kill the Patriot Act? Nothing would shock me at this point. Bayh and Luger can go to hell as well. At least we have a Congressman we can be proud of in Indiana (Pence).
revolutionismyname on June 26, 2007 at 11:38 AM
I can’t find any basis with which to disagree with the nutroots about him. Even Kos poster ‘Trapper John’ wrote an anti-amnesty column yesterday. No one on the right or the left wants this bill. The only thing that’s going to get us back our country is marching in and burning K-Street. I don’t see that happening.
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 11:41 AM
I feel you pain Z…….beers on me.
Limerick on June 26, 2007 at 11:41 AM
Every time I see Luger I want to put a bib on him.
Babs on June 26, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Bennett’s voting for cloture, according to a Laura Ingraham caller.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 11:44 AM
Reid’s on…Let the downfall begin. Reminding everyone that this is not a Democrat bill.
sunny on June 26, 2007 at 11:46 AM
Once again Bush has solidified the first runner-up as the worst president in the last century. Of course no one could be as pathetic as Carter.
volsense on June 26, 2007 at 11:47 AM
link anyone?
Limerick on June 26, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Here.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 11:48 AM
thanks!!!!!
Limerick on June 26, 2007 at 11:49 AM
He we go…..the end of many republican senate careers.
csdeven on June 26, 2007 at 11:52 AM
Reid said “the bill is not sanctioned, … not amnesty”
another Freudian Slip
apostle26 on June 26, 2007 at 11:52 AM
I just saw that Kurtz post and was about to post a link. That was a great summation, short and to the point.
That post also summed up what a lot of of us in MA felt about the gay marriage debacle up here. There are so many parallels to be drawn between the two issues, it’s scary.
I guess the minority is the new majority?
reaganaut on June 26, 2007 at 11:52 AM
Ok, this is the union vote.
csdeven on June 26, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Well said, Stanley Kurtz. The day the music died.
Spirit of 1776 on June 26, 2007 at 11:53 AM
I agree. The USA has stopped being a republic, and is basically a mobocracry where reason has been thrown to the wind.
Let us take a look here.
***at least 85% of voters are opposed to this bill, probably even higher.
***shamnesty legislation failed weeks ago, yet a President with Richard Nixon kind of negative approval ratings was actually able to resurrect this flawed piece of legislation???
***when Graham-amnesty-Lott-Hagel-Kennedy talk about border enforcement, they MEAN barely only 375 miles (if even that). Gee, I think the border is a lot longer than that, guys.
***There are so many holes and flaws in this bill, where does one start?
***According to Numbers USA, if passed, this current amnesty legislation will be the 8th amnesty passed SINCE 1986.
***There will be higher taxes on everyone, including Social Security taxes, because of the costs involved in providing benefits to tens of millions of illegal aliens. Reality says: there are no hidden costs. The costs are simply transferred and passed on to USA taxpayers.
Enough typing, I have much work to do. I gotta make some more phone calls to Senators reminding them that they themselves sworn to uphold the Constitution.
Folks, keep up the phone calls.
ColtsFan on June 26, 2007 at 11:53 AM
What I sent the “7 who could stop amnesty” via fax:
6-26-07
Subj: S 1639
Most Americans call this the Amnesty Bill!!
Congressman,
Whatever you may think of the intellect of the American people, please know that if you vote in favor of this bill, you are voting against roughly 80% of the American public. I believe there is almost no way that you could not know that. I know that too much time in D.C. can give a person tunnel-vision but I implore you to take your own “poll” of your constituents to see what they want. I have a pretty good idea how it would come out as I assume you do as well. The fact is that the U.S.A. cannot digest this many unskilled/uneducated people/workers/social-services-recipients without dragging down the middle class in a massive way. This bill is so poorly done that it was put together behind closed doors & attempts were made to push it through as quickly as possible to limit debate so that “the people” wouldn’t have time to discuss it on all its merits/demerits & that congressman would be sheltered from the blowback from informed citizenry. Who’s foolin’ who….24 hours to complete a background check??? What, are we stupid?? This is equivalent to a rubber stamp & you do not need to be a lawyer to understand that. I fear for the future of this great country which I have served overseas in the military. I‘ve spent ½ of my life overseas & came back to America & got culture shocked on how great it was & finally understood why so many people have dreams of coming here. I spent many years in Germany & saw how the overwhelming amount of immigrants soured the natives & created large scale animosity. Please consider “us” the American people whom you represent, smart enough to understand the debate & vote in our favor. Vote down S 1639. …..for my kids sake!!
Thank You
CCTradiogrunt on June 26, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Yeah, this is the union vote.
apostle26 on June 26, 2007 at 11:55 AM
The world has… ended…
HYTEAndy on June 26, 2007 at 11:56 AM
Word.
Here we go…just a few minutes and we’ll know the score.
Spirit of 1776 on June 26, 2007 at 11:57 AM
I feel like I am living a nightmare. My only consolation is that my children are grown now and they will have to deal with the invasion. Being a resident of SoCal from 85′ to 97′ I fought the fight… My situation is now pretty much set. It makes me sick to think in these terms, i.e. I will be dead before the full fall out of this legislation really hits home.
God that makes me sick…
Babs on June 26, 2007 at 12:00 PM
This is still just unreal to me, that our government is going to ram something down our throats that clearly the majority of Americans DO NOT WANT. It flys in the face of everything democracy and our country stands for.
“Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government”
- Declaration of Independence (just sayin….)
Keli on June 26, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Can you get an ulcer in one day?
moonsbreath on June 26, 2007 at 12:03 PM
I think they’ll only pass the touchback amnedment to gain a few more votes then stip it out in the conference between the Senate and the House… just like Trent Lott said.
Paul the American on June 26, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Babs, maybe this will be the catalyst for change. We need to find out what truly motivated these people to vote so blatantly against their political careers, the people, and the nation at large. We know in general terms, but we need to find out what kind of dealings were made.
Bad Candy on June 26, 2007 at 12:04 PM
Just look at their major donors. You’ll find Agribusiness, Construction, etc.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Same here. I think this backroom deal is done. I hope it was worth it boys and girls in the Senate..we KNOW who you are!
labwrs on June 26, 2007 at 12:07 PM
The special interests who will benefit greatly from this and will give them enough money to buy their next elections.
csdeven on June 26, 2007 at 12:08 PM
Amen and Amen. Rebellions have started for less than this.
Pilgrim on June 26, 2007 at 12:10 PM
Yeah, I have often wondered about this too. I have reached two conclusions:
a.) the US Senators live and work in a secluded environment, where they simply are out of touch with the rest of America
b.) the US Senators desperately crave and desire the attention and affection from the mainstream media.
ColtsFan on June 26, 2007 at 12:10 PM
It’s time for states to deport illegals to sanctuary cities/states. You want em’ you got em’
sunny on June 26, 2007 at 12:10 PM
I am looking at C-Span right now and the gathering for the union vote. I am reminded of what Rush said several days ago “Hillary is like Hugo in a pants suit”.
This union legislation is also terribly damaging to our principle of secret election. So, the union organizer is able to intimidate you in public to fill out a union card and you have no anonymous way of voting him down… Just sickening.
Babs on June 26, 2007 at 12:10 PM
Is there a live feed somewhere?
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 12:11 PM
No, there’s more than that amerpundit. What good does Agribusiness and Construction money do if you’re out on your ass in the next election? Something else is up. Sure, not all of them will get the boot, but I’m guessing a number of them will, so why support it if you’re going to see your political career end with no personal benefit? You don’t. What are they getting to do this. Its something. Cushy lobbyist jobs afterword, executive jobs? What is it?
Bad Candy on June 26, 2007 at 12:12 PM
But we need to remember when they come up for election. It wouldn’t surprise me if many of the senators who vote for this are not up for re-election until 2012. Six years is a long time to keep the fires going AND it gives them plenty of time to vote for some stuff that will thin the ranks enough to make us irrelevant.
There are many of us that are up to speed, but the American Idol crowd couldn’t care less as long as they can continue to live their pathetic lives through others.
csdeven on June 26, 2007 at 12:13 PM
But dems will vote for it because their supporters want it. Our side calls opposition to a bill racist and does what they want.
sunny on June 26, 2007 at 12:13 PM
My 12:12 applies to you too. I don’t think these guys can buy an election over something like this with any amount of money.
Bad Candy on June 26, 2007 at 12:14 PM
I will certainly be doing my part. I think people are SO outraged it wont go away easily. Especially when they see the MILLIONS lined up to get their Zcards. It will hit home then!
I only have one thing to add right now:
THANK GOD FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
labwrs on June 26, 2007 at 12:14 PM
‘Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud come out.’
Limerick on June 26, 2007 at 12:15 PM
They pay for commercials, and pay for the general campaign. Thing is, most will forget who voted for what this time in 2012 - 5 years from now. By the time the next election cycle comes around, most forget how he/she voted on one issue. The candidate can choose which issues Americans remember.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Just added a link to your post to my daily “No Illegal Left Behind” Roundup. I’ll be watching this post closely for vote talleys.
bdfaith on June 26, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Union vote fails.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 12:16 PM
The amnesty bill is up now.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Don’t forget the assholes in the House who also held this one together. It takes two…
Tom Doniphon on June 26, 2007 at 12:17 PM
This vote is a SENSE OF THE SENATE VOTE
A test vote as I understand it.
Dersu on June 26, 2007 at 12:17 PM
I hope you’re right. And I agree that these a$$es will move onto lobbying positions etc.
csdeven on June 26, 2007 at 12:17 PM
I want to throw up
tommylotto on June 26, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Google C-SPAN webcast to watch live.
apostle26 on June 26, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Union vote fails.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 12:16 PM
I didn’t see the final vote tally. What was it?
Babs on June 26, 2007 at 12:18 PM
51 yea…48 nay for cloture on the union vote.
csdeven on June 26, 2007 at 12:20 PM
This is why we need a rightroots type movement. Look at the nutroots. They’ve been able to keep fiery rage at Bush stoked for six years! We have to get where we can do that. The left has put all their artllery on the field. Our side hasn’t.
The thing that scares me is that I think the Nutroots types wanna win this country much more than we do. And the winner is usually the guy who wants it most.
Bad Candy on June 26, 2007 at 12:20 PM
51-48 I believe.
sunny on June 26, 2007 at 12:20 PM
Are they doing roll call right now?
csdeven on June 26, 2007 at 12:20 PM
Thank God!
There she is again, Hugo in a pants suit…
Babs on June 26, 2007 at 12:20 PM
The union vote was 51-49.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 12:21 PM
CSDEVEN,
Yes.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Yes they have but they have the MSM as their propaganda arm. I don’t think we’ll get that support from them.
csdeven on June 26, 2007 at 12:22 PM
This is like watching a group of people sign their own political death warrants. We’ll remember these names.
World B. Free on June 26, 2007 at 12:22 PM
trouble is that most us work for a living and can’t take to the streets at a moments notice like they apparently can. Now…let things get bad enough and I’m pretty darn sure we can do that…and they won’t like it…not one bit.
the thing about rightroots types like me is that when it comes time to get serious…we are willing and able. Our version of “serious” is much different than theirs.
Pilgrim on June 26, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Tony Snow: Bush misspoke. Gee. What a surprise. How unusual.
Drum on June 26, 2007 at 12:23 PM
*watching C-SPAN*
What does the calling out of names mean?
Tru2my2 on June 26, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Do we have to wait for the vote total, or is there a running totally somewhere?
csdeven on June 26, 2007 at 12:23 PM
their nearing the end of the roll call…..
apostle26 on June 26, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Oh God…
apostle26 on June 26, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Here it comes…
techno_barbarian on June 26, 2007 at 12:24 PM
I think they start the running tally after several votes are cast. Now reading off affirmative votes…
Babs on June 26, 2007 at 12:25 PM
As the clerk calls names, he’s recording the vote of that Senator.
amerpundit on June 26, 2007 at 12:25 PM
AP’s live blogging it so just above the comments I’ll bet
Spirit of 1776 on June 26, 2007 at 12:25 PM
Damn you to Hell, Burr! You will pay for this!
SouthernGent on June 26, 2007 at 12:25 PM
27 nays so far
sunny on June 26, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Burr NO
Editor on June 26, 2007 at 12:26 PM
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