you have a very nice blog and very informative article…

Two great places to start:

http://fredfile.imwithfred.com/

http://fredthompson08.mywowbb.com/

But what if (which is likely) the bill passes and the resulting chaos ensues? What can the average Joe do to prepare for when the chaos hits their city?

Send on the the RNC and the Senators… Perhaps we should start on the Representatives right now…..

Ok, so these guys in congress don’t mind people breaking immigration law? Well how’s about tax law? If they have no desire to round up 12 million illegal aliens, how hard do you think they’ll work to round up the 100 million+ who’ll stop paying taxes if this goes through.
Tax revolt! Tax revolt! No border security= No Taxes!

Iblis on June 26, 2007 at 3:09 PM

Americans live in mortal fear of the IRS. If only a few hundred withheld their taxes from a government that no longer represented them (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!!), then the IRS could wreak havoc on them. But if hundreds of thousands – better, MILLIONS – of us refused to pay taxes, then there’s not much they could do beyond terrorizing us. It would cause a total meltdown in DC.

I, for one, would like to see the Congress squeeze taxes out of their precious new constituents. I’d thrill to see them raise corporate taxes on their donor buddies. Even still…are corporate taxes enough to float our government? I think not. They need us working stiffs to keep paying our taxes like dutiful drones, so that they can spend it as they wish and do what they want, with no accountability to the taxpayer.

Sorry folks but symbolism is utterly stupid. It’s also the irrelevant threat of the absolutely powerless… Why? Because people with power don’t resort to symbolism.

Roger that.

Bricks, tea-bags, letters/emails/faxes that are recycled and never read – all symbols of our unwillingness to take any concrete action.

Concrete action = tax revolt. Concrete action = revolution. Concrete action = forcing recalls of all our Elected Things.

Any action we need to take to correct the course of our nation will be inherently RISKY. Our Forefathers risked it all to forge this nation – do we have enough of their fortitude to take risks to SAVE our nation? That’s the question each and every one of us needs to ask ourselves. Are we prepared to count the costs and take the risks? Are we willing to eschew our own comfort for the sake of our nation’s future?

Some courageous Americans will end up having to pay the price with their belongings, their lifestyle, their free-time, their freedom, and possibly even their lives. It’s exactly what our Founding Fathers did. They risked everything. If we fail to do any less, we are doomed – and rightfully so. The bloodlines of our forefathers will have been hopelessly diluted, and we are useless to ourselves.

Enact Term Limits for both the House and Senate.

We are supposed to vote/elect those that we feel will represent us most truly. However, I have never seen a candidate that reflected my views 100%.

At this point, I’d be happy with 50%, or 25%.

These people don’t listen to anyone.

A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often….

So Pansy sends me a response with all sorts of links and jive about how the bill is this and the bill is that, and he’s “been listening to the conservative viewpoint” on this bill (Odd, that; I thought he was actually supposed to have a conservative viewpoint of his own. Huh.) and has made some changes and amendments to deal with our anal arguments about not letting MS-13 gang members become citizens, or people who have already been ordered deported, and maybe actually trying to slow down the unchecked flow of maggots crawling into the country, etc.

Mighty white of him, I think.

Question: How close is the United States (metaphorically) to its Schwarzschild radius? Is there anything that can prevent the ultimate collapse of our founding principles – and hence our very identity?

Personally, I don’t think we have quite arrived at the point of no return, but we are too dang close for comfort. And, the closer you get to that, the harder it is to go back.

Unfortunately, the way in which this bill is being “processed” takes us a giant step closer.

Herikutsu on June 27, 2007 at 1:19 AM

This is a very good question. Personally, I view the question in terms of “which states have gone over the point of no return,” and which states have not reached that point yet.

I believe California has already reached the point of no return. I think the evidence points that way.

• Immigrants and foreign visitors are banned from public political discourse.

• Immigrants and foreigners are denied certain basic property rights.

• Immigrants are denied equal employment rights.

• Immigrants and naturalized citizens will never be treated as real Mexican citizens.

• Immigrants and naturalized citizens are not to be trusted in public service.

• Immigrants and naturalized citizens may never become members of the clergy.

• Private citizens may make citizens arrests of lawbreakers (i.e., illegal immigrants)and hand them to the authorities.

• Immigrants may be expelled from Mexico for any reason and without due process.

From: J. Michael Waller, Ph.D., is the Center for Security Policy’s Vice President for Information Operations.

We are supposed to vote/elect those that we feel will represent us most truly. However, I have never seen a candidate that reflected my views 100%. At those points of departure, you must live with the decisionI made in the voting booth and trust their judgement.

I was a single issue voter for Bush in 04, knowing that many (most) other parts of his agenda were contrary to my own beliefs. My decision, I trusted GWB on the war and took a chance on the rest.

As much as I don’t want a poll chaser as a representative, I agree that when 3 of 4 disagree with a proposed law, that person in office is no longer representative of their constituency. I may become a single issue voter again and let those feel the hate in oh 8.

Mitts! “en espanol” button is hypocritical, but I believe his main reason for putting it there is because the LDS have a huge influence in the hispanic community as they are heavily involved in missionary activities south of the border. I really believe that he is not targeting illegals because of the basic tenets of his church.

On the other hand, shouldn’t all immigrants be able to navigate his website in english?

Will Newt come forward to save the GOP from disintigration, will Fred ramp up his comfortable southern drawl and light a fire in our bellys, will Mitt finally take that damned “en espanol” button off his website and lead us from the wilderness, or will this issue propel Hunter or Tancredo from the second tier and into the lead, will Rudy discover that he is actually conservative on something besides the war? We need someone to stand up and lead us, to reunite this fragile conservative coalition that is the GOP under the banner of taking back the party and defeating this ShAmnesty.

It’s take it all or go home time boys, I’m waiting to see who will step up.

Good call . Yes Newt is a great uniter. I’ll be sure to catch up on his thoughts on this vote tomorrow. I admit my motivations are a little selfish in that statement. I have a 26 year old nephew working at the State Capital in Tallahassee for a lobbying firm. He will graduate law school in December. I figured if some of the minors get called up to the bigs it might open a spot for the kid. He has political ambitions. More on topic. The chances some of the immigrants (post bill) will form a Latin Republican voting block are slim. I will say the Cuban community in Miami is heavily Republican. We also have Martinez in there. Just to consider all the options for a worst case scenerio, and turning lemons into lemonade.