Cloture succeeds: Where do we go from here?
posted at 2:05 pm on June 26, 2007 by Bryan
The “comprehensive immigration” shamnesty is closer to passing through the Senate thanks to 16 Republicans who switched their votes from nay to yea since the last cloture vote. That doesn’t mean it’s the law of the land, or even that it’s out of the Senate yet, but it’s a good indicator that the Senate is listening not to the 75% of Americans who oppose the bill, but to the 25% who support it. And it’s a good indicator that those 16 senators who switched sides got some promise or incentive to do so. Why else would they vote to move forward on a bill that 3 in 4 Americans oppose? Why else would they vote to move forward on a bill that, thus far, the House seems likely to kill? What is going on behind the scenes to move so many democratically elected officials to vote against the express wishes of the voters who put them in office?
The Senate has a couple more votes on the bill set for later in the week; some of the senators who voted for cloture today will try the trick of voting against the bill itself in a couple of days, knowing that they’re pulling a John Kerry “I voted for it before voting against it” move. Some of them even know that some of us are on to the trick, but they don’t care: We’re a tiny slice of the electorate, and by the time they’re up for re-election there will be other issues at play that they believe will insulate them from our wrath. And they may be right about that. Whatever the ultimate fate of the bill turns out to be, by playing this bill in the way that they have, Republicans and Democrats, from Sen. Sam Brownback who wants to be president to Sen. Jim Webb who ran on an anti-illegal immigration platform only to vote in favor of cloture today, have severely undermined basic faith in democracy. We no longer have any reason to believe that a majority of our senators are acting in basic good faith. They’re voting against the will of the public, and they’re smearing the public that opposes their vote. The public has no reason to trust them anymore; they won’t enforce the laws on the books, they’re voting against the majority, and they’re supporting lawbreakers against the law-abiding. And for what? If life weren’t so good and comfortable in the US today, we might be at a genuine revolutionary moment.
But it’s not over. The House, all of which is up for re-election next year, will have to be more sensitive to the public will on this. That’s our chance, maybe our last chance, to kill this bill for good. What the Senate and president support, the House may kill out of its own political self-interest. If they hear from us.
Looking forward, President Bush would be wise to switch parties now. I’m serious. It may be the only way he can salvage anything of Iraq. He has spent enough political capital for three terms. He has isolated himself from the very base that has supported him through thick and thin for years. Not only has he isolated himself from us, he went out of his way to denigrate and smear us over a terrible bill that won’t do what he says it will do and will do what he says it won’t. Like the Senate Republicans, we have no reason to trust him anymore. Thus isolated, he can’t count on any vocal support come September, when the war is up for a vote again. The majority of the country is against him; his own base now has reason to mistrust and even hate him. Sen. Richard Lugar is signalling a Republican revolt on the war, and yet another move by Senate Republicans away from the party’s base that still supports the war even if it’s angry with the administration. The president’s actions since his re-election in 2004 have given the country a Democrat majority in Congress, so he might as well make it official and give the Democrats the White House too, by switching now. That surely wouldn’t solve his problems with the likes of Dennis Kucinich and Nancy Pelosi, but it might confuse everyone long enough for him to keep the war going long enough to at least see the surge through.
Looking ahead to next year, I’m loath to make predictions but it’s hard to see how the party gets fired up for anything. We put senators and presidents in office who despise us and vote against us. They fight us harder than they fight Democrats and even harder than they fight the country’s real enemies. Why get fired up to put them back in office? Why get fired up to put a senator or governor at the head of a doomed presidential ticket? The party needs a man on a white horse, an American Camillus who’ll make things right. But we’re unlikely to get that, even in Fred. It’s possible, but unlikely. Heroes are in short supply these days. We send them to Afghanistan and Iraq and promptly forget them.
So where do we go from here, over the next few days? We have to fight our own party leadership and kill the amnesty bill. This time we have to make sure it’s dead. We have to fight our own president. We’ll have to field candidates to challenge senators like Lindsey Graham from the right, if for no other reason than to remind them that we still have a vote for them to ignore. And we have to do it before the Democrats solidify their hold on Congress next year, and probably take the White House, and move to re-instate the Fairness Doctrine to squelch debate and criticism of them. That’s the coming battle after the 2008 elections: Whether the free speech environment we’ve enjoyed for the past 20 years will remain free or not.
We have some serious times ahead. We’re at real war with a real enemy around the world and we have to fight some heavy rearguard action here at home in the political arena. Now is not the time to rest; it’s the time to count our losses, choose the ground to make our stand, and fight.
Update: There’s a second cloture vote on Thursday.
The second, and final, cloture vote is coming Thursday (that will be to end debate and proceed to a final vote on the bill itself), and only five votes need to shift from Yes to No to stop it. That seems like a good bet, with good candidates for switching including Brownback, Bond, Ben Nelson, Ensign, Burr, and Gregg. If they thought they’d gotten a lot of calls and faxes before,…
Calls and faxes are fine but they don’t seem to be doing any good. We need to get the senators’ attention a little more sharply this time. We’re cooking up an ad to that effect.










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aggreed
tshell on June 26, 2007 at 2:09 PM
This will be interesting.
Its Tommy on June 26, 2007 at 2:09 PM
Keep the pressure on the Senators! There is still a slim chance to stop it later this week. If we let up now, all is lost.
The Hort on June 26, 2007 at 2:12 PM
Maybe try to get some of the anti-business lefties aboard with the message that this is also amnesty for every business that has been employing the illegals.
TunaTalon on June 26, 2007 at 2:14 PM
I am so pissed it is hard to verbalize my feelings. It is a sad day for my state of Arizona and the US. Bryan is so right, if not for our combined comfort revolution would be at hand.
usarmyretired on June 26, 2007 at 2:14 PM
again:
Cry havoc…
juanito on June 26, 2007 at 2:14 PM
My Republican senator was a turncoat-I called his office; the ‘mailbox was full so I couldn’t leave a message’. I e-mailed him earlier and got a blank thank you email back. I will not vote for this senator in his bid for re-election.
Doug on June 26, 2007 at 2:15 PM
Everyone of those Republicans that voted for this should be voted out of office in 08. They have betrayed us in every way possible.
At least my Texas Senators didn’t.
msipes on June 26, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Where do we go from here?
I plan to stop voting. Frankly, until there are term limits for Congress and photo ID requirements to vote, voting is a joke. This amnesty nonsense proves it. Democracy has failed.
I hate America.
Enrique on June 26, 2007 at 2:16 PM
The revolution will be televised.
HaroldFine on June 26, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Keep at ‘em, and don’t stop once this bill succeeds or fails. Keep your eye on ’08. If you’re like me, you’ve had enough of these self-important stuffed shirts…send them the ultimate message. Vote against the incumbents in ’08. Doesn’t matter the party; they’re all ratbags. Hit the blogs and radio shows with email. Anyone but the incumbent in ’08! Make ‘em pay.
black campbell on June 26, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Let’s roll…
voiceofreason on June 26, 2007 at 2:17 PM
At least until Paris gets arrested again…
Romeo13 on June 26, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Well, the Senate’s tacitly told us that they’d like us (the voters) to go to Hell. I’m not sure if they mean that literally or figuratively, though.
Tom Doniphon on June 26, 2007 at 2:18 PM
About all we can realistically do is write, write, write to our Congressmen. It is really hard to believe that the majority of politicians want to reward law breakers. We should also start punishing the businesses that hire them big time. Maybe someone can print a list of perpitrators and we can boycot them.
saiga on June 26, 2007 at 2:20 PM
If our senators are going to go against the will of the AMERICAN PEOPLE because they don’t have the GUTS to stand up for what is right, I for one WILL NOT SUPPORT OR VOTE FOR THEM IN THE NEXT ELECTION.
Skok on June 26, 2007 at 2:21 PM
Killer soundbite from a powerful, insightful analysis, written by a verbal sharpshooter. Kudos, Allah. Time to brush the sand out of our shorts and slog on to fight the good fight.
Alden Pyle on June 26, 2007 at 2:21 PM
Our government no longer works. How does revolution start? With people getting killed. We as a country are so against that, we’ve become so used to the idea that a death for any reason is wrong, that we don’t have in us what it takes to rise up and take back what has been stolen from us. We are doomed.
Privatestock on June 26, 2007 at 2:22 PM
Bryan,
I’m not sure what you think of Instapunk, but he makes a good point. We need to go after the donors to these sub-moronic congresscritters. They are the only thing the Bushies and the Senators listen to. Why else are they in such a rush to pass this bill? It’s because locals have started taking immigration enforcement into their own hands. The businesses don’t like it. They want cheap, taxpayer subsidized labor. We need to know who donated to these people (the puppetmasters). I think we’re just spinning our wheels calling. We’ve been calling for well over a month now with no discernible results.
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Phone calls, letter writing, emailing, denying funds, swearing to not re-elect the congressman … If none of this works, as it apparently has not, what’s left? What, in practical terms, can the average joe working 9-5 do?
Not to say that nothing can be done, I’m not trying to be pessimistic. I’m almost ashamed to say this, but I simply don’t know, myself. What can I do? I’ve been watching the fevered activity of all these bloggers and tons of commenters, and nothing seemed to work. The Republican senators who were gonna turn against us, turned against us. We tried our best and failed. You say “Fight” Bryan … well, okay, how?
They don’t listen to the Internet, they don’t listen to the polls, they apparently don’t listen to the phones or the people who say “I’m not donating, no.”
Shall we protest then? A formal, organized, march? It’s not terribly common amongst the Right, but maybe that oughta change. I’d totally be willing to take a day off from work for that. I mean, that’s about the last option I see for us, unless y’all got a plan.
apollyonbob on June 26, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Boy, what schmucks Lindsey Graham and Arlan Spector turned out to be.
saiga on June 26, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Sorry Bryan I didn’t read your by line on the piece, …I bow to your writing prowess.
Alden Pyle on June 26, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Bryan doesn’t write often, but when he does it’s usally a doozy.
Privatestock on June 26, 2007 at 2:26 PM
Heh.
Bad Candy on June 26, 2007 at 2:26 PM
I’m in, Let’s Roll.
Alden Pyle on June 26, 2007 at 2:26 PM
Marching and making noise and being annoying is how the left fights. Can’t we come up with a better idea than that?
Privatestock on June 26, 2007 at 2:27 PM
Good piece Bryan. Where do we start? We are so disorganized right now.
Bad Candy on June 26, 2007 at 2:28 PM
We are cursed to live in “interesting” times.
Dirthead on June 26, 2007 at 2:28 PM
This immigration flap is the grand unifier. Since 9/11, our country has been divided by party warfare across the aisle, but this is the issue that brings us back together. WE THE PEOPLE, ALL THE PEOPLE, must join together to fight the common enemy – a president and a corrupt senate who oppose and ignore our wishes by pushing this travesty of a bill.
I want grand, unified (non-violent) protests over this. Not gatherings of right and left who are called to action by their own leaders and talk radio hosts, but HUGE gatherings of ALL people who are called to action by our arrogant politicians’ abandonment of us, the unwashed and ignorant masses.
World B. Free on June 26, 2007 at 2:29 PM
It’s unlikely to matter. It’s the businesses that do.
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Learn Spanish and get ready for a huge tax increase to support the next wave of undocumented workers.
Hening on June 26, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Bush’s immorality is astounding.
Can you imagine someone who sends our troops into harms way in the Middle East asking them to fight and die with one hand tied behind their back.
And at the same time sells out his Country to an Open Borders syndicate, for their own personal benefit.
Yeah,he fooled us. It appears that some on the left had him nailed. He is a f’ng lowlife.
there it is on June 26, 2007 at 2:29 PM
I don’t want the corrupt, socialistic government of Mexico, Venezuela, Guatemala, etc. here but it really seems like it may be too late! I’m turning into a conspiracy theorist on this issue. Seriously. What the hell do these people think they’re doing?
We are not being represented so we should not be taxed to pay for their new nanny state third world circle jerk.
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!
It’s time for a virtual revolution, if nothing else.
NTWR on June 26, 2007 at 2:29 PM
I’d like to try the public hanging suggestion.
Gregor on June 26, 2007 at 2:30 PM
When you call the Senator and get a staffer on the phone, ask the staffer where they are going to be working when the boss loses re-election.
If we can not fight them from the outside, fight them from the inside.
AndrewsDad on June 26, 2007 at 2:31 PM
Arlan Spector just got a piece of my mind again via email, and if I was within reach of him would have gotten a piece of my foot up his traitor ass….Sorry, I’m pissed!
soulsirkus on June 26, 2007 at 2:31 PM
I don’t know who those professional politicians represent or what their agenda is, but it’s not me and it’s not mine.
rplat on June 26, 2007 at 2:31 PM
Wednesday, July 4th is Independence Day. Everyone to their state capital.
RushBaby on June 26, 2007 at 2:31 PM
Whether you guys want to admit it or not, we are at war with our own government. The thinkers vs. the feelers. They have shown us today that they really don’t have to listen to us. Getting their attention is not enough. We have to determine where they will be hurt the worst and hit them there. Repeatedly. When they are begging us to stop, that’s when we’ve accomplished something. For now, we are a non-entity to them.
Privatestock on June 26, 2007 at 2:32 PM
Don’t give up on the Senate just yet:
Falling Back to the Next Trench [Mark Krikorian]
The second, and final, cloture vote is coming Thursday (that will be to end debate and proceed to a final vote on the bill itself), and only five votes need to shift from Yes to No to stop it. That seems like a good bet, with good candidates for switching including Brownback, Bond, Ben Nelson, Ensign, Burr, and Gregg. If they thought they’d gotten a lot of calls and faxes before, …
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
TheBigOldDog on June 26, 2007 at 2:32 PM
Burr. You are fired! You’re eviction notice is coming soon….
Guardian on June 26, 2007 at 2:33 PM
Get this, my senators are Chambliss and Isakson on May 21, they both voted for cloture. Today, they both voted against cloture. Chambliss is up for re-election next year and I’m sure he got the message to vote against amnesty, this time around. All this back & forth voting doesn’t make moi warm and fuzzy. I’ve only voted for one Democrat and that was Zell Miller. I’m now looking at Dale Cardwell another Democrat to take Chambliss’ place.
We have to replace senators who flip-flop on this country’s most important issue. Security. Don’t lose sight of next year’s elections.
moonsbreath on June 26, 2007 at 2:33 PM
Well Done
ATTICA! ATTICA! ATTICA!
400lb Gorilla on June 26, 2007 at 2:34 PM
Since the founding fathers made sure to set aside the right to march and make noise, I imagine they considered it somewhat effective. If you think there is a better idea than that, we’d all love to hear it. Honestly I’m hoping there is, I just can’t see it.
apollyonbob on June 26, 2007 at 2:34 PM
Bryan, great idea about chimpy switching parties. The only thing he’s got going is we haven’t been attacked in almost 6 years. Like most of you, I cannot wrap my head around the fact that these idiots are not listening to their constituients. How La Raza, the Chamber of Commerce, et al got their way is beyond me. Yeah, I know it’s not passed yet and probably most of these clowns (yes, they belong at the circus not Congress) but they’ve learned from John Kerry that you can be for something before you were against something and as was explained to me by the arrogant whomever is answering the phone in Webb’s office that “he just voted to continue the conversation”. I told her I was not an idiot and that hadn’t he learned from Kerry that game doesn’t really work.
Gerry Rivers is probably peeing all over himself because he sees this as a “victory” against “all the bigots” (those of us who want our borders enforced) and Mr. Bush, you’ll be getting a letter from this “loud person” as well.
Don’t know who to put up against Let ‘em in Lindsey, the top tier guy they had in mind just got arrested for buying cocaine or something. Can we drag George Allen out of the basement and run him again against Warner?
Pass the duct tape, my head is going to explode.
Catie96706 on June 26, 2007 at 2:35 PM
SIGH! I’m afraid you are right…this is a sad day in America…everyone who voted yes today has to be voted out!!!
DCJeff on June 26, 2007 at 2:35 PM
According to the US Senate, it is OK to break the law and put the country at risk as long as there is enough of you to effect the vote. I feel like an idiot since I’ve taught my kids the exact opposite.
It is now official that in the USA the law has no relevance.
The barbarian invasion and sack of Rome signaled the end of that empire while their Senate tried to stop it and we’re getting an instant replay with our Senate causing it.
Hening on June 26, 2007 at 2:35 PM
I think everyone should mail a tea bag to the White House and to any of their congressional representatives that voted for cloture.
Slublog on June 26, 2007 at 2:36 PM
Wednesday, July 4th is Independence Day. Everyone to their state capital.
RushBaby on June 26, 2007 at 2:31 PM
I’m sad to comment the events of today indicate that everyone going to their capital would do NO good whatsoever.
ophelia on June 26, 2007 at 2:38 PM
Thanks to our treasonous politicians this bill, if it passes, will nail the coffin shut. We’ll be helpless soon if we don’t kill this shamnesty. If the Dems gain control and pass their “Stalinist
FairnessDoctrine” next thing you know they will finaly find a way to make conservatism, Non-RINO Republicans, and conservative christians illegal once and for all…..oh wait, that’s right they won’t need to once they get their 12-20 million new Democrat votes. Hell they would probably only need 6-7 million new democrat voters to plant us six feet under permanently.“The average age of the world’s great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage.”
- Alexander Tyler
FireFly on June 26, 2007 at 2:40 PM
A modern day “tea Party”. Great idea. I would love to see a long line of mail trucks dropping off millions of tea bags to the WH and senate. I doubt that they would care much though. They’d probably give them to all the “new” residents as a welcome gift.
Guardian on June 26, 2007 at 2:40 PM
There is a ray of hope. The House will now take up this bill if it gets a second cloture and Pelosi will not even consider this bill unless she has significant Republican support. She knows that this is a political hot potato and will do everything possible to hang this albatross around Bush and the Republican Party. These pukes, unlike the Senators, are all up for re-election in this next cycle. That is the Sword of Damocles hanging over their head. Let your Representative know how you feel in no uncertain terms. If this bill gets enough votes on the second cloture, the House is the Maginot Line. I just hope it works better than the first Maginot line.
TomH on June 26, 2007 at 2:41 PM
What makes you think that? We’re unable to get our street protests covered by the MSM, and even Michelle gave no mention of the March for America.
Will there even be a revolution. I doubt it. We can’t even get Americans to stand on a street corner for an hour. What makes you think any of these people are going to fight?
Remember that most of them “work two jobs” and “do their part by faxing their representatives.”
That would be those faxes that are “recycled” and never read.
Gregor on June 26, 2007 at 2:41 PM
Slublog, like the tea bag idea but they’d probably say you were trying to send them anthrax. I am angry with these fools. I guess they take their orders from Mexico. BTW I refuse to learn Spanish.
Catie96706 on June 26, 2007 at 2:42 PM
That was so nice of the congress to help out all their good
buddys.
Just think, the big corporations won’t have to build any more factories in Mexico. It will be much cheaper to move the Mexicans here.
/sarc off.
I feel the unions days are numbered.
cjn on June 26, 2007 at 2:42 PM
Am I correct that there is a second cloture vote later that could kill this bill?
Or is all that’s left the vote on the bill that only needs the simple majority to pass?
JadeNYU on June 26, 2007 at 2:42 PM
I like that.
sunny on June 26, 2007 at 2:42 PM
I received my FINAL notice from the RNC the other day. I typed this message out and have taped it to my renewal form. The first message, I told them I was against this amnesty bill and to remove my name. Apparently, they don’t understand English, so I’m mailing my message in Spanish.
Yo no sostendré el RNC como es un títere de México.
¡Quite mi nombre!
Translation: I will not support the RNC as it is a puppet of Mexico.
Remove my name!
moonsbreath on June 26, 2007 at 2:44 PM
My friends, DO NOT give up now… go here, use the form and send a loud and clear message to your senators!
Click here to use the form!
Chuck in Detroit on June 26, 2007 at 2:44 PM
With the tea bag, you could include a note that says something like this:
“The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending against all hazards: And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks.”
-Samuel Adams
The immigration bill and your advocacy of it was an attack on our liberties and our constitution. For that reason, I will not be supporting you in the next election.
Slublog on June 26, 2007 at 2:44 PM
Excellent post, Bryan.
Dave Shay on June 26, 2007 at 2:44 PM
Or… call your senators and tell them LOUDLY, to kill this bill!
Chuck in Detroit on June 26, 2007 at 2:45 PM
I like it Slubbo.
Bad Candy on June 26, 2007 at 2:45 PM
To what end? The Boston Tea Party was ultimately consummated in the use of force. There’s few here who would be willing to do that. I include myself. We need to know who’s sponsoring these people, as Slu posted on Ace of Spades HQ. By calling those offices, threatening boycott, and so on, we might make a difference, just as Michelle and Laura did with Akon.
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 2:46 PM
I watched it happen on TV back in 1994.
HaroldFine on June 26, 2007 at 2:46 PM
I will wait for the Thursday vote, and if it goes like this one, I’m all for delivering tea bags – in person. Our country is at stake. It’s the calling, faxing, and emailing that seems to be doing no good. July 4th comes and goes with no extra effort, and we are complicit in cheapening its meaning.
RushBaby on June 26, 2007 at 2:46 PM
Exactly !! I don’t mean to be melodramatic, but something un-seen is driving this bill. Whatever it is, its bigger and more important than 75% of American voters… and that’s pretty big. I don’t know what it is and I don’t pretend to know for certain, but whatever it is, we had better find out soon.
It seems to me the question is not being ask… why are you doing this Mr. President….. why are you doing this Senator? We are not getting a satisfactory answer to that question.
Maxx on June 26, 2007 at 2:47 PM
A repeat of my LGF post – This is a BIG deal.
From Samuel P. Huntington – The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order – 1996 (before 9/11):
p. 305
“A more immediate and dangerous challenge exists in the United States. Historically American national identity has been defined culturally by the heritage of Western civilization and politically by the principles of the American Creed on which Americans overwhelmingly agree: liberty, democracy, individualism, equality before the law, constitutionalism, private property.
In the late twentieth century both components of American identity have come under concentrated and sustained onslaught from a small but influential number of intellectuals and publicists.
In the name of multiculturalism, they have attacked the identification of the United States with Western civilization, denied the existence of a common American culture, and promoted racial, ethnic, and other subnational cultural identities and groupings.
They have denounced, in the words of one of their reports, “the systematic bias toward European culture and its derivatives” in education and the “dominance of the European-American mono cultural perspective”. The multiculturalists are, as Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., said, “very often ethnocentric separatists who see little in the Western heritage other than Western crimes.” Their “mood is one of divesting Americans of the sinful European inheritance and seeking redemptive infusions from non-Western cultures.”
THIS IS WHY I’M SO REALLY PISSED AT OUR GOVERNMENT.
Also, Melanie Phillips’ ‘Londonistan’ does an awesome job of weaving all the factors that are working to destroy our Western culture.
We are in several wars right now: The war against Radical Islam, the war against third world illegal immigration, and the war against western civilization being waged by our own liberal elites.
GRRRRRRRRRR.
Jimmy Doolittle on June 26, 2007 at 2:47 PM
I’m tempted to protest somewhere. But lets face it, we suck at that sort of thing, all having jobs and such. The trust fund, cruncy lefties are sooo much better at it.
matd on June 26, 2007 at 2:47 PM
Regardless of the outcome here, I am going to devote my energies from now on to establishing federal term limits, so that we can end this perpetual ruling class system.
ultraloser on June 26, 2007 at 2:47 PM
Here is one strong idea
Gregor on June 26, 2007 at 2:48 PM
A revolution? In 1994? Please remind me of which revolution that was.
Gregor on June 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM
Actually, I thought a provision that was in both bills was to make English the official language of the U.S. But your de facto point is well taken.
apostle26 on June 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM
Bryan,
I am sick to death of this and can’t wait to move to Haiti full time.
Where does McCain stand? I noticed you are accepting advertising dollars from him. I see it on the right side on the screen.
Just asking.
On-my-soap-box on June 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM
Gregor, we’re not going to hang people. Cut it out.
Slublog on June 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM
Lou Dobbs called for every Republican to change their party affiliation to Independent. Not a bad start.
Tru2my2 on June 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM
I like it….nothing like an old history reminder to the elites. Wonder if any of them would even understand it.
FireFly on June 26, 2007 at 2:50 PM
The RNC relies heavily on small donors. If you gave them money in the last year, call membership services at 202-863-8743. Give them your membership number and ask for a return of all donations in the last 12 months. Tell them why and give the money to conservative candidates for ’08.
cause when the going gets tough…
Valiant on June 26, 2007 at 2:50 PM
My Senator is Mel Martinez. A call to him, a thousand calls to him, would make no difference. I’ve emailed several times, if any of them were read then someone in his camp knows I won’t be voting for him, but they don’t care.
The boycott idea is the best I’ve seen so far. We need a list of companies to strongly boycott.
If this bill passes and the 12-20 million new democrats becomes a reality, there is no chance for a Conservative to win in 2008.
Privatestock on June 26, 2007 at 2:50 PM
I feel totally betrayed. I wish I could take it out on Shamnesty supporters during elections, but I live in MD and wouldn’t expect them to do the right thing. This really has me worried. Good piece Bryan!
Stevel on June 26, 2007 at 2:50 PM
No Taxation Without Representation
Do you guys feel like you have representation right now? We sure have taxation!
aero on June 26, 2007 at 2:50 PM
This bears repeating. The best suggestion I’ve heard all morning. It’s really a travesty that Bryan, AP, and Michelle haven’t posted something about this.
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 2:51 PM
LOL! “Cut it out?”
You keep sending faxes and see how that works out for you.
Gregor on June 26, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Something definitely smells funny here… it’s almost as if these congress-critters aren’t worried about being re-elected…
Jonas Parker on June 26, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Slublog, I believe you’re the first one who mentioned about mailing tea bags. I’m all for it. Mail a tea bag a day to the White House until this thing ends.
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
moonsbreath on June 26, 2007 at 2:52 PM
I know the tea bag idea is silly/stunt-like but it’s the sort of thing that draws attention. An odd example of this is the 20-something tons of nuts that were sent to CBS to protest the canceling of a television show.
That got a lot of press. Imagine what we could do with a similar protest.
Slublog on June 26, 2007 at 2:52 PM
First thing’s first. I am 100% amnesty or immigration bill which even has the “flavor” of amnesty.
That being said: Is it fair to demonize Senators who thought it better to give the current bill a fair “yes/no” vote than to use procedural stall tactics?
I, for one, will be glad to have a roll call of Senators who actuall vote for the bill and against it and couldn’t care less about a roll call of those who voted to vote. I want a Congress that at least fulfills its responsability to vote on the issues.
Also, I don’t (completely) understand the uproar over the reminder that we live in a Republic not a pure democracy. We ellect these men and women to _lead_ not follow. Can you imagine if Bush gave up on Iraq and Afghanistan the moment 51% of the public grew tired of the war?
I’ll take a republic over mob rule, any day of the week.
I hope the bill fails in the Senate and, if not there, in the House. (Or, rather, I hope our ellected leaders come up with a more palatable bill and eventually pass it.)
If we’re going to start holding folks to the fire, lets at least start with those who vote “yes” to the actual bill… not those who vote to vote.
12thman on June 26, 2007 at 2:53 PM
Just saying you shouldn’t promote felonies on someone else’s blog.
Slublog on June 26, 2007 at 2:53 PM
Excellent writing, Bryan. Very well put.
Tru2my2 on June 26, 2007 at 2:53 PM
uhm that should be 100% against amnesty or any imigration bill which even has the “flavor” of amnesty.
Dr. Freud… paging Dr. Freud.
12thman on June 26, 2007 at 2:54 PM
I like the tea idea. See, this is why I respect you Slubbo!
Bad Candy on June 26, 2007 at 2:54 PM
I think we know why: tons of local enforcement initiatives. One of the Senators is putting forth an amendment to make this current amnesty supercede those. Just follow the money…
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!
Gregor on June 26, 2007 at 2:54 PM
I did that today and suggest others do the same.
World B. Free on June 26, 2007 at 2:55 PM
I’ll mail a teabag.
Tru2my2 on June 26, 2007 at 2:55 PM
They’ve lost my vote.
Metro on June 26, 2007 at 2:56 PM
I would add to that: send the RNC a letter letting them know what you did, and why.
Slublog on June 26, 2007 at 2:56 PM
Gregor’s idea is actually the most masculine of all. Unfortunately, few would go along with it and I think the Bible speaks against it. However, with Washington undermining its own authority so spectacularly, it will soon be irrelevant anyway. We’ll have local control. In the form of narco-dictators like south of the border. Then we can rise up in good conscience.
PRCalDude on June 26, 2007 at 2:56 PM
Well, while I understand that today’s vote was to allow debate on amendments, and that the actual cloture vote would be in a few days, I have no faith. For many years I have never understood the need to be parliamentarily honest and always taking the high road by Republicans. Today proves that conservatives need to be ruthless and need to fight at every turn. That’s why today is so sad. So they want to look like they are above ground and wish to honestly debate this bill?… Bull crap!
MNDavenotPC on June 26, 2007 at 2:56 PM
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