Arizona’s favorite son pulling single digits now in next-door Nevada; Update: First hit piece on Fred spotted
posted at 1:38 pm on June 25, 2007 by Allahpundit
Fred 25, Mitt 20, Rudy 17, and St. John in with a cool eight percent. If this amnesty abortion goes through, we might see him pull within the margin of error of negative numbers. The Times of London quotes Republican “insiders” who see an outside shot at total implosion by fall but, like Captain Ed, I’m skeptical. There’s no incentive not to trudge along until the first primaries in January and take your chances there — unless, perhaps, Petraeus’s progress report in September is so grim, or there’s some horrendous intervening news from Iraq in the meantime, that it would leave McCain with two radioactive signature issues in his lap. At that point, even if you’re sympathetic to him, what’s the point in nominating him? The Democrats will crucify him in the general election.
Elsewhere, Rudy’s off to Pat Robertson U to convince Christian conservatives that Christian conservatism isn’t that important.
Update: There’s no actual news peg here that I could discern. They’re just trying to get the word out early that a guy who’s not in the race yet isn’t exactly a Washington outsider. Which wasn’t much of a secret anyway.









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That’s the problem with being a ‘Maverick’, you usually end up alone.
Bad Candy on June 25, 2007 at 1:41 PM
see ya.
shooter on June 25, 2007 at 1:43 PM
The “Maverick”. once the darling of the MSM and other liberals, has never had what it takes to win over the conservative base of the Republican party. Now that he’s older, his support of the amnesty for illegals bill as well as his temper will keep him from achieving the presidency.
If he ever had received the presidential nomination, the MSM would have turned on him like a flash.
Qzsusy on June 25, 2007 at 1:46 PM
I just called Senator Nelson (D-Nebraska), and spoke with the staff.
They are telling people that “Senator Nelson will vote YES on cloture, but he will vote NO on amnesty legislation because the Senator does not believe in rewarding law-breakers with USA citizenship.”
Folks, we need to get on the phone lines NOW.
ColtsFan on June 25, 2007 at 1:48 PM
I’m sure Fred! will formally announce his candidacy sometime over July 4th, and then St. John will finally go away.
Grafted on June 25, 2007 at 1:48 PM
He will not be the only politician who will have committed political suicide by supporting the comprehensive immigration plan as it was presented. Betraying our national sovereignty will have its consequences. Lott and Grahanm will soon follow.
volsense on June 25, 2007 at 1:50 PM
What was he thinking when he supported amnesty? And doing it in cohorts with Ted Kennedy. What was he thinking? That is not just a rhetorical question. I mean, really, what was the man thinking?
Then one has to ask, what was he thinking going to bat for terrorists by drafting a bill to stop America from hurting them? Even if you disapprove of torture, why, as a Republican politician, in a time of war, would you campaign for something like that, out of the blue? What was he thinking?
Then again, one has to ask, what was he thinking taking a photo op with 9/11 truthers? They clearly were all wearing T-shirts that said Investigate 9/11. When 5 people approach you, all wearing the same T-shirt, surely you can’t help but to read the message in front of you. Not to mention their placard signs that they held up for him to see as they greeted him.
So, again, what was he thinking?
jihadwatcher on June 25, 2007 at 1:50 PM
What was he thinking? More like, who was he listening to? And the answer is all his elitist buddies in DC where illegal immigrants provide cheap labor to raise thier kids, clean their houses and mow their lawns. For them, amnesty and open borders are a win-win situation.
If only he had taken his giant ego to visit some regular folks……
Clark1 on June 25, 2007 at 1:55 PM
Stick to your principals St. John, you’ll end up crucifying yourself.
How long do ya think it’ll be before he’ll endorse the fairness doc?
Kini on June 25, 2007 at 1:55 PM
That’s just a bargain for amnesty, and he knows it. It’s so he can appease his constituents while secretly supporting it
PRCalDude on June 25, 2007 at 1:55 PM
There ain’t nothin ‘Maverick’ about teaming up with Kennedy and Feingold.
libertytexan on June 25, 2007 at 1:59 PM
What was he thinking? Who knows.
“According to one study comparing alcohol use across three racial groups, heavy alcohol use is greatest in Hispanics”
“John McCain derived his wealth from his marriage to Cindy Hensley McCain, whose father started his road to riches as a bootlegger. As a politician, the senator has remained beholden to the liquor industry and the family business.”
there it is on June 25, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Is Fred Barnes still saying McCain’s a lock?
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on June 25, 2007 at 2:08 PM
I think Fred Barnes is saying….Fred!
captivated_dem on June 25, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Hey John McKennedy I’m still waitting for the 50$ an hour cabage picking job you offered last year.
Mojack420 on June 25, 2007 at 2:24 PM
as much respect i have for john mccain, i believe he’s still living the life of a POW.
he needs to wake up and listen to the peoples’ plea to end the war.
apujac on June 25, 2007 at 2:26 PM
You can say that again.
The former senator from Tennessee, Fred Thompson, who championed McCain-Feingold, promised that it would “help challengers reach a threshold of credibility when they want to challenge us in these races.”
Fred’s still got some splainin to do.
JackStraw on June 25, 2007 at 2:35 PM
Public Citizen is a front group for Ralph Nader. Is this where the attacks will be coming from? LOL
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on June 25, 2007 at 2:39 PM
McCain’s never really been one to rally conservatives. He’s all about one thing – his own political career.
jdawg on June 25, 2007 at 2:41 PM
The Fred! piece should have been on an editorial page. There is no “news” there, as in reporting something that recently happened. Even with a byline, it was clearly an opinion piece, though not labeled as such.
The writer seemed to want to blame the S&L deregulation scandals on Fred!. I don’t know enough history of that event. My question is, were the problems the direct result of Fred!’s efforts, or were they the result of people illegally taking advantage of the deregulation? That question maybe too nuanced for the author of the hit piece to appreciate.
Mallard T. Drake on June 25, 2007 at 2:52 PM
$500,000 / 18 years = $27,777/year.
The horror! I can’t wait for F!DSdeven to put this all into context.
Pablo on June 25, 2007 at 3:02 PM
The opening line was $1 million over 20 years – that’s $50k per year. Pro’lly a lot for a liberal reporter, but not that much for a lawyer and former Senator. Geeze.
Plus, the final quote; “… would represent anyone who would pay him.” – that’s libel. This guy has no proof that Fred! would do that. I’d be willing to bet that Fred! wouldn’t take “anyone”. In fact, he’s probably turned down clients. And if he has, then this is proof and can be used in a lawsuit.
Whether such a suit would be a good idea, I’m not sure.
_Jon on June 25, 2007 at 3:06 PM
I question the timing of the article. Funny how the Nevada poll comes out with Fred! leading comfortably and this hit piece on the same day.
saltydogg14 on June 25, 2007 at 3:12 PM
Good riddance to McAmnesty..
Nate A. on June 25, 2007 at 3:18 PM
Is that an illegal alien in his cheek pouch, or just nuts?
profitsbeard on June 25, 2007 at 3:18 PM
McCain began believing he was da man when the MSM were idolizing him, calling him the savior of the Republican party. He is so stupid he thinks he would get favorable press over the dem nominee. That alone disqualifies him as pres. material. Bush (along with McCain) thinking his conservative base would allow unfiltered immigration now disqualifies him.
right2bright on June 25, 2007 at 3:39 PM
That AP article on Thompson is nothing more than a copy-n-paste from a DNC email that went out a few weeks ago. Here’s the complete text. Hope you don’t mind. If it’s too much, go ahead and remove it.
nukemhill on June 25, 2007 at 3:41 PM
It causes me to tear up when I read about Senator McCain’s campaign struggling like this…I tear up with JOY!!! I remember when he first ran for the house on ’82, riding Reagan’s coattails, and he’s been running for the White House ever since. Along the way he’s pushed liberal bills and agendas, as well as slamming anyone who has brought up the idea of going after the POWs/MIAs still in Vietnam. This man does not belong in the White House, he belongs in a deprogramming center.
John McCain, the Ho Chi Minh Candidate.
Brass Pair on June 25, 2007 at 3:42 PM
Which, I believe is his congressman’s salary plus speaking engagements. The Dems think that if you are a Republican congressman, than all of your salary is from lobbyists or corportate America.
Not that Feinstein would ever take an interest in corporate America…except when she can shovel some million dollar bids to her husbands companies.
Thanks for the heads up, and shame on the posters who carry the Dems water. As usual they look like idiots.
right2bright on June 25, 2007 at 3:53 PM
This is the result of John McCain’s immigration stance; it has nothing to do with Iraq. John McCain’s support for the Iraq War had breathed some life into his candidacy. That has been thrown away by his alliance with Teddy Kennedy and support for the present immigration bill.
Phil Byler on June 25, 2007 at 4:20 PM
McCain is not our favorite son. I can’t stand the man and his temper.
Tim Burton on June 25, 2007 at 4:36 PM
First post. Been waiting a long time to be able to comment here. Thanks for opening registration again!
It continues to amaze me just how scared the left, the old media and RINOs are of Fred! With those groups opposed to him, how can conservatives go wrong backing him? I know some of the posters here on HA aren’t sold on Fred’s! bona-fides as a conservative, but frankly none of the Fred! doubters have been able to show me a better candidate.
Conservatives – now is our time. It’s going to be up to us to reclaim the Republican party from the blue-haired cocktail crowd. Get behind some new blood and vote the old guard out before it’s too late.
governmentdrone on June 25, 2007 at 5:26 PM
I don’t see any issue that John can use to get back in this race. Even after fred? implodes his groupies will look for the next empty suit to fawn over and will not go to McCain. The rational fred? supporters will head toward Rudy or Mitt!. It’s too bad, because I have a huge amount of respect for what John has sacrificed for this great nation.
Thank you for your service John.
csdeven on June 25, 2007 at 6:05 PM
Moi in trouble? Nah, nevuh, nevuh, will I drop out - ya smokin’ somethin’? With pal, next to him.
Entelechy on June 25, 2007 at 7:03 PM
Politics 101:
Support the issues that your constituents support and they may vote for you.
At least until you are a lame duck then you can act like El Presidente Boosh and crap all over them and their most heart felt issues
TheSitRep on June 25, 2007 at 7:05 PM
We agree fully on this. At the same time he’s tired, has shamnesty wrapped around his neck, and simply his time has passed. It was 2000 or never. We should, however, always honor his service in the Navy and in the Senate, and be thankful for his support of 43 in 2004. He gave of his time/effort dilligently, often against the hopes of one John Kerry.
Entelechy on June 25, 2007 at 7:07 PM
This time I am proud to be from Lousiana were both Dem & Rep Senators are listed on the side of Nay
Kermit on June 25, 2007 at 9:34 PM
Got so excited with my first post that I did not say anything about McCain.
All positive comments about his service in the military and senate are agreed with from here. My hat is off to the man of such dedication and service to all of us. My hat is also off to the man for his constant urging for sending more troops to Iraq.
Also, his campaign will die as a result of amnesty attempts. Should he have made the general election, it would make him absolutely unelectable.
Kermit on June 25, 2007 at 9:40 PM
Sorry CS,
Mitt and Rudy are Federal RINOs in training. Both would dissapoint once in office, having shown that they will trade their principles for votes.
As far as I can tell, Fred! has not. I have read just about everything he has writen, and reviewed his voting record, and I agree with him 100%.
And Jeri is hawt.
That’s good enough for my vote.
AZCON on June 25, 2007 at 9:51 PM
We have a guy on the fred? thread that actually lived in MA during Mitts! tenure and he makes a good case for Mitts! qualifications for POTUS.
The problem with fred?, and everyone knows it, is that no one really knows where he is gonna position himself. He wont debate. He only gives prepared speeches and only does softball interviews. And even at that, his interviews with Leno, Robinson, and his Q&A in London were all dismal performances.
I read everything he writes and he doesn’t say any thing I haven’t already heard from other candidates. He isn’t leading on any issue.
I don’t care about his wifes hotness.
He just isn’t good enough for my support.
csdeven on June 25, 2007 at 11:03 PM
John McCain actually thought the press and the American people were going to hail him as the great compromiser who can “bring the people together” while he pays lip service to border security and gives 20 million Mexicans amnesty. This would propel him into the republican nomination and into the White House. What does he think this is, the 80s?
Dollayo on June 26, 2007 at 4:54 AM
GOOD!
TO HELL WITH MCCLAME WHO ASSAULTED THE 1ST AMENDMENT, WHO CONFERS RIGHTS TO THE ENEMAS OF AMERICA, WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH ENFORCING OUR BORDERS AND OUR LAWS!
WHO THE HELL WANTS HIM?
The False Dervish on June 26, 2007 at 9:33 AM