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80% of Al Qaeda leadership escaped Baquba before new operation began

posted at 3:11 pm on June 23, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Michael Yon wrote yesterday that “Al Qaeda seems to have been effectively isolated. The initial attack on 19 June achieved enough surprise that al Qaeda was caught off guard and trapped. They have been beaten back mostly into pockets and are surrounded and will be dealt with.” Hopefully that’s still true of the rank and file but it appears not to be true of the top guys. Totally demoralizing, notwithstanding the good work done thus far and the fact there are still a few big fish left in the pool, per the fact that we hooked two of them earlier today. It’s not clear when exactly they took off: Gen. Odierno told reporters that he thinks it was a combination of media coverage of the surge plus military leadership having publicly identified Baquba as a problem that was going to need solving shortly.

Now they’re gone. The problem is the same problem it’s been since the very beginning:

An officer working in Arrowhead Ripper, the subsidiary offensive in Diyala province, said wearily, “We just do not have the forces in country right now to have the appropriate level of presence across the country.”

Many counterinsurgency experts agree. Andrew F. Krepinevich Jr., the director of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a national security think tank, said flatly that Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, does not have enough troops. “I suspect General Petraeus is taking a risk here, but that’s what commanders do,” he said…

One of Petraeus’s nerviest gambles is that enemy fighters will not be able to move and disrupt other areas. The biggest concern for U.S. commanders is the big northern city of Mosul, where insurgents counterattacked the last time the U.S. military conducted an operation this size, in November 2004. That is especially worrisome because the United States now has only one battalion of about 1,000 troops stationed there, far fewer than were there then.

We tried this before in Fallujah, of course. According to the Times, the mujahideen are reinfiltrating there now too. The Iraqi army is supposed to fill the manpower gap but WaPo pours some cold water on that:

[O]ther officers report that the Iraqi forces themselves are not big enough and also have a mixed record in combat. Army Lt. Gen. Martin Dempsey, who oversaw training and advising efforts there until this month, said in recent congressional testimony that Iraqi units are improving but “do not have tactical staying power.”…

Iraqi security forces are “the weak link,” said counterinsurgency expert Krepinevich. The Iraqi government is so factionalized that Iraqi forces remain largely ineffective, he explained: “This is the principal weak spot in our strategy — and I’m afraid it may be fatal.”

Complicating that is the fact that the IA has a spotty recent history in Baquba, with the local commander having been removed earlier this year for persecuting the local Sunnis. That’s one of the reasons the military’s started to “outsource” security in Sunni areas to the tribes, which of course has its own element of nuance: “Although the tribes have proved a potent force against Al Qaeda in Iraq, others worry that any power and weapons given to them now will not be easily taken away when that threat is gone. If too much authority devolves to them, some in government fear, the country may begin to look uncomfortably like Afghanistan or northwest Pakistan.” There’s already a split within the Anbar awakening, although they haven’t started fighting each other. Yet.

Still a long way to go with the current operation, of course, but bear in mind that what’s happening now in Baquba is the template — albeit on a much grander scale — for what U.S. troops will be doing in Iraq once the inevitable drawdown occurs next year. The Baker-Hamilton plan, which is now back in vogue, calls for training the IA while maintaining a smaller combat force to fight Al Qaeda. How we’re going to seek and destroy AQ with half these numbers when we can’t seek and destroy them now is beyond me, but there’s no more men to be had. Either the IA’s going to do this or it won’t get done.

Odierno said yesterday they could be ready by spring. I’m skeptical.

Update: The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.


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I will compare this to the battle of Midway analogy of the loss of many well trained Japanese Carrier pilots.

Losing 4 carriers and their experienced crews badly hurt the Japanese. So much so that in latter battles after the Guadacanal campaign they couldnt match up well with the US.

Then there came the Marianas “Turkey Shoot” where US pilots litterally were getting a 20 to 1 kill ration against japanese pilots.

That is when the Kamakazies started. The Japanese no longer could go against our pilots so they went suicide.

Yes we can kill Al Queda and they can replace the men lost with new Recruits. But these recruits are less well trained and have to rely on their fanaticism to fight. They are less dangerous over time because of the skill loss.

The same is going on in Iraq. There as been no major terrorist attack because we have killed off many of their skilled leaders and they are relying on their fanatics as a weapon of war.

So we are winning in the sense that we keep their skills from increasing. I will exchange 10 untrained Al Queda newbies for one leader who has years of experince. I call that a victory.

William Amos on June 23, 2007 at 3:51 PM

Andrew F. Krepinevich Jr., the director of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a national security think tank

In other words he doesn’t know any more than my 96 year old neighbor.

Capitalist Infidel on June 23, 2007 at 3:52 PM

How we’re going to seek and destroy AQ with half these numbers when we can’t seek and destroy them now is beyond me…

Can they really be destroyed? Or is it similar to, say, flies at a picnic…you can use everything you have to keep them at bay, but it’s impossible to eradicate them completely. And if it’s bees, it only takes one angry bee to get through to hurt you.

I thought I heard the IA had increased their numbers, but I guess that was wrong…

JetBoy on June 23, 2007 at 3:55 PM

Hopefully the oil deal and subsequent reconstruction gets the Iraqis more involved. Al-qaeda blowing up a newly built bridge is not going to win them any popularity contests. The current anti-AQ wave will be enhanced greatly by them bombing new construction

Theworldisnotenough on June 23, 2007 at 4:20 PM

William Amos on June 23, 2007 at 3:51 PM

Good point.

Theworldisnotenough on June 23, 2007 at 4:26 PM

I have Faith that our guys will hunt them down and get them.

Zorro on June 23, 2007 at 4:49 PM

It that 20% are important leaders…how is that bad. That is very vague. In most conficts leaders aren’t the ones who stick around.

tomas on June 23, 2007 at 4:57 PM

How the hell are our sons and daughters supposed to fight this war when operations are in the papers, tv news, and blogs weeks in advance. We have been hearing about ‘pending’ operations for weeks. We do not have a need to know this stuff. Sure we all WANT to…but so what!!!??? Makes me sick. Not blaming HA…..just blaming everything…..all of it, politicos, reporters, do-gooders, and of course the ‘hate America’ crowd. Totally frustrated about this kind of crap…….our could you tell?

Limerick on June 23, 2007 at 5:16 PM

Why don’t we just invite them into the pentagon? This is soooo stupid!

csdeven on June 23, 2007 at 5:21 PM

Why am I not so concerned when it’s the NYT contradicting Yon and Roggio?

TBinSTL on June 23, 2007 at 6:28 PM

Petraeus is more clever than ya’ll realize. Everyone focused on Baquba, rightly so…with two full Stryker brigade combat teams doing the legwork out there, but while all attention was northeast of Baghdad, he quietly launched a series of other critical offensive operations.

Final surge elements were in place as of 15 June.

On 16 June, in addition to Arrowhead-Ripper, Petraeus launched Operation Marne Torch, Phantom Thunder, and Commando Thunder, while the aforementioned Iraqi security forces were tasked with putting the wood to the Mahdi army.

Baquba is the largest op, yes. But it ain’t the only op. This is a systematic, country wide series of operations that has been in the works for nearly a year.

John from OPFOR on June 23, 2007 at 7:07 PM

Heart-ache.

Jaibones on June 23, 2007 at 7:36 PM

Can they really be destroyed? Or is it similar to, say, flies at a picnic…you can use everything you have to keep them at bay, but it’s impossible to eradicate them completely. And if it’s bees, it only takes one angry bee to get through to hurt you.

JetBoy on June 23, 2007 at 3:55 PM

Nice analogy, but can you make an analogy about this, when referring to goats and an electric fence?

Tim Burton on June 23, 2007 at 7:50 PM

It’s like trying to hammer mercury.

If you don’t have something to catch the flying bits (never having had sufficient forces since the beginning in Iraq to secure the borders and fully man these encircling operations), you merely spread the mess.

It’s the Koran, not the zombies.

Until the ‘holy’ playbook of this lunacy is addressed, we treat the symptoms and ignore the source of the terrorist-creating ideology.

The ‘queen’ breeding these maggots is the dismal dogma.

profitsbeard on June 23, 2007 at 8:09 PM

How the hell can this *kind* of war be won when every ficken detail is on the freeking front page of the MSM??
Its like Paris Hilton coverge? The bad guys know we’re coming. They leave. That ain’t hard.

The overwhelming reporting is killing us. What the heck ever happened to “need to know?” A farce I’m telling you. A Farce.

auspatriotman on June 24, 2007 at 12:12 AM

I guess the hunt starts. That is how it works. They always leave behind something.

pat on June 24, 2007 at 12:42 AM

Imagine how much easier it would be to counter Iran’s BS if them sending their operatives to Iraq and Afghanistan and Lebanon and who knows where else would receive 1/10th of the coverage that the US’ does.

AlexB on June 24, 2007 at 1:48 AM

Good grief! This operation only got underway on Wednesday! I’m really tired of of people picking up little snippets from press reports with little snippets from from miscellaneous commanders and then talking like they actually know something. In the previous snippet somebody claimed AQI would stand and die, so if the top dogs do the obvious thing instead, it must be a woeful setback, right? Do you even know how many individuals “80%” of AQI’s “top leadership” represents? Do you even know how to tell one sweep from another? Do you think Petraeus is stupid enough just to make the same mistakes with more troops? Or that AQI would never have suspected a thing if only Petraeus hadn’t somehow carelessly spoiled the surprise? A pox on everybody’s houses! Sheesh/rant

JM Hanes on June 24, 2007 at 4:22 AM

Stop moving the troops all over the damn place and start dropping bombs. I’m still waiting on the “shock & awe.”

It’s not too late to start using the blueprint of WWII that was used on Germany and Japan. You have to completely destroy cities, demoralize and crush the spirit. Instead Bush and party are too busy wanting to bring democracy to the Middle East and we all see how well that’s working in Gaza.

Peace and Islam are incompatible.

moonsbreath on June 24, 2007 at 11:09 AM

Update: The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step…

…registering for the LA Times. :-)

Kralizec on June 24, 2007 at 11:17 AM

It’s not too late to start using the blueprint of WWII that was used on Germany and Japan. You have to completely destroy cities, demoralize and crush the spirit. …Peace and Islam are incompatible.

moonsbreath on June 24, 2007 at 11:09 AM

I advocate greater use of destruction, moonsbreath, but one has to choose one’s targets well. Much of the opposition to the Americans in Iraq seems (from reports) to originate in Tehran and Damascus. Much of the support for mobilization for jihad in general reportedly comes from the Saudi “royal” family, in the form of their support for Wahhabi Islam. Jihad is largely funded from oil revenues. So I advocate destruction and conquest, sure, but destruction of the remaining muslim rulers and conquest of the oil fields.

Kralizec on June 24, 2007 at 11:45 AM

One of the main reasons we will never win another war is that the military under the Clintons promoted eunuchs into positions of influence in the military and intelligence agencies. Promotions were based on political considerations rather than merit. Incompetence is rampant in all areas, because it originates in the White House and Congress.

volsense on June 25, 2007 at 10:31 AM

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