The obligatory “CDC sex survey” post
posted at 11:12 pm on June 22, 2007 by Allahpundit
Share on Facebook | printer-friendly
I’ve linked this three times in various incarnations in Headlines today, I think. Presented without comment:
You must be logged in to post a comment.
Blowback
Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.
Trackbacks/Pings
Trackback URL
Comments
Comment pages:
Is that it?
No wonder Americans act like horn dogs all the time.
Speakup on June 22, 2007 at 11:20 PM
Do they ever do anything to compensate for the fact that this is a subject people will almost invariably lie about?
Also, what counts as a “sexual partner” these days, anyway? If Bill had been polled would Monica have been added to the tally?
Not that anybody cares about this ridiculous subject, mind you. But statistics like this are used so frequently to deceive and manipulate by those in the media that I tend to be interested in the underlying methodological pathologies, even when the subject is an obvious waste of time.
Blacklake on June 22, 2007 at 11:23 PM
where hte heck did they do this survey?
Defector01 on June 22, 2007 at 11:23 PM
I just wanna know how all the guys can have more sex then all the women? Do they count different things as sex or are a bunch of dudes hooking up with the same woman? Unless a few gay guys are vastly overachieving compared to gay women, and doubling up the category count.
Spirit of 1776 on June 22, 2007 at 11:30 PM
Women only have to count the ones where both partners were completely sober.
and that time when they were kinda, sorta broken up and it was only just that once, those don’t count at all.
And Mardi Gras.
Women never have to count Mardi Gras.
billy on June 22, 2007 at 11:38 PM
I was reading over a co-worker’s shoulder as she was IM’ing another co-worker once, and co-worker #2 laughably claimed that she had been a “good girl” the last few months. Co-worker #1 and I spent the next ten minutes replying with “what about this guy…” repeatedly. We must have come up with 15-20 guys that co-worker #2 had forgotten that she slept with in the previous several months. When a bunch of us were out for drinks after work on a friday, I think co-worker #2 estimated that she’d had about 75 partners. The scary part – she wasn’t even thirty yet.
So it’s probably a few freely conjugal gals that are helping a lot of guys pad their stats.
rw on June 23, 2007 at 12:02 AM
I think Wilt Chamberlain’s 20000 women and the undoubtedly countless Fred! conquests skewed the stats badly….
Bradky on June 23, 2007 at 12:10 AM
Bradky, HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Bad Candy on June 23, 2007 at 12:19 AM
Now we know why Trojan used pigs in their condom ad.
csdeven on June 23, 2007 at 12:33 AM
Consider the fact in a perfect world we are entitled to only one sex partner in a life time unless of course one of the couple dies. When you view the survey in that light it seems like alot of partners. As for me well lets just I got a whole lot of praying to do.
sonnyspats1 on June 23, 2007 at 12:49 AM
Quelle surprise! Mon dieu!
Entelechy on June 23, 2007 at 12:49 AM
Err… all you need is a few long term relationships to go south and to be decently successful dating and you get into VERY big numbers. I mean…
But, 2 of my university roommates are married to girls they started dating in the tenth grade. They got married 1 year after college and are doing great (3 weeks between weddings… that sucked). So across the three of us, we’re not that higher than the average of 7…
libertarianuberalles on June 23, 2007 at 1:08 AM
6,237 participants… out of millions upon millions of people nationwide. And, no mention of homosexual experiences compared to heterosexual experiences. Strictly speaking in sexual partner terms, period, if 30% of men have had 15 or more partners, and only 9% of women have had 15 or more partners, who have all these men in the survey been fornicating then?
…San Francisco survey, or what?
SilverStar830 on June 23, 2007 at 1:10 AM
Women are such liars.
infidel4life on June 23, 2007 at 1:28 AM
Remember, for women, you always multiply the number they give you by 3.
Mark V. on June 23, 2007 at 1:33 AM
Wow. I must be hoplessly old-fashioned.
That’s okay, I can live with that a lot better than living with the too often bitter fruits of promiscuity.
Bob's Kid on June 23, 2007 at 1:46 AM
From the study:
I guess by “adults” they mean “Americans over the age of 8″.
flipflop on June 23, 2007 at 6:52 AM
And for men you must always divide by 5.
Bradky on June 23, 2007 at 8:26 AM
you have to account for the “sex in the city” factor which glamorized women as privileged whores. women think it’s ok to act like samantha.
wryteacher on June 23, 2007 at 9:32 AM
If you’re this promiscuous, you’ll have notches on something else if you don’t watch out.
(Emphasis on the ow-t!)
profitsbeard on June 23, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Just prooves how inept the poll takers are…
OK… lets say there are approximatly 100 million men and 100 million women ( I know there are slighlty more women than men, but just for arguements sake)…
You take a poll… saying these men have each had 7 sexual partners (average). Women only 4 sexual partners….
Now… multiply it out… men have had 700 million sexual “realationships”…. women 400 million “relationships”… leaving 300 million relationships that were with? Goats? (this aint the mideast boys), other men? (San Francisco factor)?
How can ANYONE take this poll seriously when its numbers are THAT far off due to people either lieing? or it not getting a fair representation of the populace.
Romeo13 on June 23, 2007 at 10:36 AM
The American men must be having all those extra sexual experiences with foreign women, like hot Brazilian chicas.
Those noble girls are doing the men that American women aren’t willing to do!
Amnesty for illegal hotties! Bring it on, baby!
cool breeze on June 23, 2007 at 10:42 AM
Ahem, there is the matter of prostitutes, of whom many men make use in a large way. When I was stationed in the Philippines, I knew a guy who kept a list of the bargirls he did, which had grown to about fifty. He started his list because he knew a guy with a list of 250. This was back in the early 80s when a bargirl would spend the night for ten bucks.
What happens when you open the doors to Sexual Disneyland to a bunch of goofy dufuses who can’t get dates back home? They screw their brains out and think they’re King Kong. My speculation is that, patronizing bar girls twice or more per week, the eager beavers in the course of an eighteen month tour could sleep with a hundred women.
Now, to my way of thinking, that can not be enjoyable. If you are trying to rack up your numbers, sex is no longer an enjoyable event but becomes a job. You’re not dating anymor, you’re punching a clock. Undoubtedly, there are guys in these unusual situations who are skewing the numbers in this survey. If you are Joe Sixpack and pay a prostitute every payday, you’re going to rack the number of sexual partners, maybe two or three hundred over a lifetime.
As for the women, well, there are lot of them with skeletons in their closets, my friends. I was dating a girl I met at a club back in the days of disco when all of the sudden out of the blue she looks me in the eye and asks me, “Do you know how many men I’ve slept with?” This sounded like one of those questions women ask to which there is no good answer. “Umm, seven,” I said, thinking that was a safe number. “227,” she said. Now, I didn’t believe her but, you know, over the next year as I made the rounds of clubs every guy in them seemed to know her and smile when I mentioned her name. Hmmmm.
So I’m thinking if you’re a halfway decent looking woman with a somewhat dysfunctional emotional background who craves affection, you’re probably going to rack up some big numbers, sexual partner-wise. Take a look around the office and you can probably spot some of those women.
Now, I can see where if you’re a reasonably attractive human being who actively dates and doesn’t get married until you’re 30 you could have a couple dozen sexual partners. However, there’s some kind of invisible line at about 50 partners that means there is something wrong with you. Go past a hundred partners, and we’re talking pathological behavior.
So if you’re a guy who one day draws up a list of the women he’s slept with, as all guys eventually do, I don’t think you’ve lost out if you’re in the single digits. Like so many things in life, quality trumps quantity in sex.
Tantor on June 23, 2007 at 10:48 AM
Nice try Tantor…
Sooo… how about someone who has been sexualy active for 30 years… but only married for 3 of those?
If you’re a reasonable looking male, and not an idiot, but are selective about long term realtionships (like I am), you can EASILY “rack up” totals above 100… that would be an average of one every 3 months or so, even taking out times you are in long term relationships.
Real key here is that so many more people are SINGLE, and stay that way…
But as I said earlier, either the methodology of this poll is flawed, or its results are very scewed due to lieing, cause the numbers just plain don’t add up….
As to the foreign woman or hooker arguement… women sleep with foreign men as well… and the amount of men who frequent hookers is actualy pretty small (except in the Navy… and even then, both the Philipin base is closed, and even Phucket has cleaned up… USN, Ret.).
Romeo13 on June 23, 2007 at 11:06 AM
This data is already 5 years old. I think we would find the numbers to be higher if more timley data were used.
paulsur on June 23, 2007 at 11:19 AM
Leaving out the seniors is curious. Now days you hear of the “Condo cowboys” in retirement communities filled with many more widows than widowers. The senior male who can still drive does very well with the ladies from what I’ve read.
I know I know for most of you thinking of your grandparents or parents … well may as well join a monastery or convent now, just lost your appetite.
Bradky on June 23, 2007 at 11:25 AM
OH, they meant with otherpeople!
DCJeff on June 23, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Romeo13: “If you’re a reasonable looking male, and not an idiot, but are selective about long term realtionships (like I am), you can EASILY “rack up” totals above 100… that would be an average of one every 3 months or so, even taking out times you are in long term relationships. Real key here is that so many more people are SINGLE, and stay that way…”
I don’t doubt your arithmetic, but I do think if you’re caught in a three month cycle of relationships all your adult life, there’s something wrong with you. A normal person would just get tired of that after a few years. How many times do you want to go on a first date and tell your life story to a stranger? Most people find somebody to marry well within fifty dates, let alone fifty sex partners.
My guess is that most single people not in a relationship are living a mostly celibate life, with occassional excusions into sexual bliss.
Tantor on June 23, 2007 at 2:07 PM
Birth of a euphemism.
I think this is true in the US and other English speaking cultures. Chivalry, romance, and feminism keep women from truly enjoying their sexuality and keep us frustrated. Having lived outside of the US for several years and traveled extensively I can assure you that the rest of the world does not have the same attitudes as we do. Latin culture, Dominican, Brazilian, and Cuban in particular, are much less uptight about sex between non-married people. This casual attitude translates into fewer hangups and better relations between the sexes. It is funny how fundamentalist Christians and feminists have the same attitudes about sexual enjoyment just coming from different perspectives.
Bill C on June 23, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Who Cares?
ScottyDog on June 23, 2007 at 5:03 PM
Comment pages: