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Video: Ex-terrorist Walid Shoebat on the jihadist mindset

posted at 1:10 pm on June 20, 2007 by Allahpundit
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He’s mostly in sync with a new study on the subject. It’s one part Paradise, he says, and one part helping Islam to “rise again.” The study emphasizes the cult dynamic of the latter, in which the group’s needs are substituted for the individual’s, but insofar as both view the decision as a perversely rational one, they’re simpatico.

Dr Stevens argues that while religion plays a central role — there are few instances of non-religiously motivated suicide attacks — the suicide bomber is also driven on another level by a rational thought process. This is the desire to be part of a group that engenders strength and solidarity from strictness, and encourages members to submit totally to the collective aims of the group.

Being part of an exclusive group with very strict beliefs requires intense commitment, and engenders a deep belief in shared experience and self-sacrifice, according to a recent paper by Dr Stevens.

Suicide bombers are thus motivated by a “simple cost-benefit analysis”, in which the ‘benefits’ of self-destruction outweigh the cost. The benefits are perceived by the terrorist to be so great — in terms of membership of the group, achievement of collective goals, the promise of benefits in the after-life, and so on — that they outweigh the cost.

Shoebat’s got some ideas about how to defeat that mindset, too, but I doubt either Stevens or Christopher Hitchens would receive them warmly. No wonder he’s too hot for Columbia.


Speaking of cultish groupthink, Hirsi Ali decides it’s time to deprogram the media:

“Journalists … face the unpleasant reality of taking sides or getting lost in the incoherence of the so-called middle ground,” she said. “The role of journalists serving the West, who understand what this particular battle is about, will be to inform their audiences accordingly.”

Hirsi Ali said journalists must acknowledge the discrepancies between tenets of Islam and foundational beliefs of the West before they can accurately report on Islamic-related events…

“Why are Westerners so insecure about everything that is so wonderful about the West: political freedom, free press, freedom of expression, equal rights for women and men and gays and heterosexuals, critical thinking, and the great strength of scrutinizing ideas – and especially faith?” Hirsi Ali asked.

She said Western journalists appeared hesitant to defend free speech – “the very right from which they earn their bread.”…

She challenged journalists directly. “If we do not understand the differences between Islam and the West – why one is so great and the other so low – and we don’t fight back and win this battle of ideas in order to preserve our civilization, in my view there is no point to your profession or mine,” she said.

Exit question: What glaringly false assumption does she make here about how western journalists view their profession?


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Most journalists are against the very ideals of the West that allow them to work, and wind up being shills for the Wet’s destruction.
Plus most are impotent fools with abslolutely no self-respect, so they are threatened by success and virility.

bbz123 on June 20, 2007 at 1:16 PM

Exit question: What glaringly false assumption does she make here about how western journalists view their profession?

She thinks that their role is to be properly informed and then to inform their Western audiences accordingly.

Their job is to take down the west, as far as I can tell.

JadeNYU on June 20, 2007 at 1:19 PM

“This is the desire to be part of a group that engenders strength and solidarity from strictness, and encourages members to submit totally to the collective aims of the group.”

Proving once again, Democrats and terrorists are on the same page.

fogw on June 20, 2007 at 1:21 PM

…and encourages members to submit totally to the collective aims of the group.

Resistance is futile.

RedWinged Blackbird on June 20, 2007 at 1:30 PM

Walid endorses the Coulter Doctrine, convert them to Christianity and Brian puts forth a very simple principle. He wants them to die before he does. and Walid after an uncomfortable silence agrees!

LakeRuins on June 20, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Exit question: What glaringly false assumption does she make here about how western journalists view their profession?

Western journalists believe they are on nobodies side. They want everyone to be treated ‘equally’. However, if one side is more powerful than the other (Israel as compared to palestinians. WASPs vrs minorities. Rich powerful George W Bush and America vrs poor muslim freedom fighters in caves upset about what the US did to them.) then they must equalize the situation by giving the underdog a leg up.

Dash on June 20, 2007 at 1:37 PM

Shades to Ann Coulter. Kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. Hmm…

Mojave Mark on June 20, 2007 at 1:46 PM

Exit question number two: According to Walid Shoebat the cure for Islamism isn’t Secularity (read: Atheism) but Christianity, so how is AP enjoying his thick slice of Red Meat?

wearyman on June 20, 2007 at 2:07 PM

They don’t serve the West, they serve the progressive mindset. They are programmed to tear down strength, not build up weakeness.

Exit statement: How dare you quote Hirsi Ali without giving us a photo.

right2bright on June 20, 2007 at 2:22 PM

“…no point to your profession…”

I got ten bucks that says Ayaan will NEVER be qouted in the major media saying THAT!

Go Ayaan! You rock!

Tony737 on June 20, 2007 at 2:30 PM

“Secularism is not gonna work.”

The way to counteract the Lie of Islam is with the Truth of Christianity.

infidel4life on June 20, 2007 at 2:39 PM

“Exit question: What glaringly false assumption does she make here about how western journalists view their profession?”

If you mean aside from her assumption that they consider themselves western journalists and not “men (or women) or the world”, then you got me stumped, AP.

Dusty on June 20, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Argh, “men (or women) OF the world”.

Dusty on June 20, 2007 at 3:27 PM

Hirsi Ali said journalists must acknowledge the discrepancies between tenets of Islam and foundational beliefs of the West before they can accurately report on Islamic-related events…

I believe the glaringly false assumption is that journalists intend to accurately report on Islamic-related events.

RedWinged Blackbird on June 20, 2007 at 3:41 PM

The false assumption is that western reporters mistakenly misreport Islam-related news.

The fact is that the skewing is done on purpose, and because of willful blindness and the refusal to call things by their proper name. Agenda-driven reporting…

AlexB on June 20, 2007 at 4:09 PM

Mojave Mark on June 20, 2007 at 1:46 PM

That’s what struck me too. Was just asking myself do Shoebat and Coulter agree?!

Spirit of 1776 on June 20, 2007 at 4:17 PM

Until the Koran is purged of its calls to terrorism to promote the faith (as Pope Benedict rightly criticized this “religion” as “evil” when it is spread by sanctified violence), the supply of brainwashed maniacs who think suicide/homicide is “righteous”, no mere external warfare will stop this creed.

The Koran must be fought.

Its dismal dogmas must be destroyed.

Until Islam is peaceful in its doctrines, it will only generate murderous fundementalist lunatics.

profitsbeard on June 20, 2007 at 4:42 PM

The way to counteract the Lie of Islam is with the Truth of Christianity.

infidel4life on June 20, 2007 at 2:39 PM

I say AMEN, even if you meant it sarcastically.
A Christian could not have said it better.

abinitioadinfinitum on June 20, 2007 at 5:42 PM

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