“Deport the Criminals First” — An Illegal Alien Drunk Driver Snuffs Out Three Human Lives in Texas
posted at 1:28 am on June 20, 2007 by Patterico
Send to a Friend |
printer-friendly
I have long argued that any effort to deport illegal aliens should begin with those illegals who commit crimes after they arrive — especially crimes that endanger people’s lives. In my home town of Los Angeles alone, 34,000 illegal aliens flow through county jails every year — yet only a fraction of that number is identified and deported. This sickening failure is replicated across the country, day after day — meaning criminals who shouldn’t be in the country in the first place are set free to commit more crimes.
Recently, our failure to Deport the Criminals First cost three more human lives.
From the March 29, 2007 edition of the Houston Chronicle:
[Ignacio] Gomez-Gutierrez was driving with a blood-alcohol content that was three times the legal limit when he plowed into the rear of a car on U.S. 59 near the entrance to Kingwood, investigators said. The car’s occupants, Maria Ortiz and her daughter, Vanessa, who was five months pregnant, died instantly.
Vanessa Ortiz was carrying a baby boy, and his name was Nathaniel.
Blogger Texas Rainmaker witnessed the accident, and reports: “It was a terrible wreck and I was in shock in seeing the car crumpled like a soda can.” He links to a video of the aftermath of the accident, from which this still image was taken:
Here’s the kicker: the culprit is an illegal alien, and this is his fourth DWI offense.
Gomez-Gutierrez, a 25-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico, is now facing his fourth drunken driving charge. But this time it has been elevated to two counts of intoxicated manslaughter and failure to stop and render aid. Investigators say he fled from his disabled vehicle after the wreck.
The handling of Gomez-Gutierrez’s case has sparked criticism from victim advocates. They say they are upset not only for what they call lenient sentences but because immigration officials did not deport him after he finished serving time on three prior DWI convictions in 2002, 2004 and 2005.
Three prior DWIs and not one single deportation.
Who is at fault? The Harris County Sheriff’s Department blames the feds for not deporting illegals. But local police in Houston have a sanctuary policy that prevents officers from asking suspects about their citizenship status.
There is plenty of blame to go around. The failure is systemic; it occurs at every level of government — from cities like Houston that perpetuate sanctuary policies, to the federal government, which refuses to staff local jails with enough ICE agents.
The bottom line is simple: until we are deporting every single illegal alien who is in this country committing crimes and putting people’s lives at risk, don’t talk to me about amnesty. Maria Ortiz, Vanessa Ortiz, and Nathaniel Ortiz deserved better from our government.
[Patterico blogs at Patterico.com and can be reached at patterico -AT- gmail -DOT- com.]
You must be logged in to post a comment.
Blowback
Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.
Trackbacks/Pings
Trackback URL
Comments
Comment pages: [1] 2 »
My local newspapers, the Chronicle and the Mercury News, often feature sympathetic stories of the lives of hard-working illegal aliens (which they call ‘undocumented workers’) caught up in the system. How come the papers don’t cover this side of the story?
aunursa on June 20, 2007 at 1:32 AM
This isn’t the first time that an illegal alien drunk driver has done this either, these stories are becoming all too familiar.
Bad Candy on June 20, 2007 at 1:35 AM
Bad Candy,
If you click on the first hyperlink, you’ll see about ten other examples I have collected on my blog in recent weeks.
Patterico on June 20, 2007 at 1:36 AM
Heh, I guess I should RTFA before commenting next time. I was tending to my crappy blog.
Bad Candy on June 20, 2007 at 1:43 AM
This was the issue that sparked the throw down between O’Reilly and Geraldo a month or so ago. If I recall correctly, Geraldo thought O’R was being racist by focusing on the illegal alien, when there are drunk driving fatalities all the time, or some such nonsense. I agree, we deserve much better from our government.
Secure the border, deport the illegals that have committed crimes on our soil, raid businesses that hire illegals and deport those workers, and then lets see how many of the 12M are left. Then we’ll deal with them.
Mallard T. Drake on June 20, 2007 at 1:46 AM
Of course we have the assclowns that wanted to attack Fort Dix that are another good parallel example of this problem.
Bad Candy on June 20, 2007 at 1:49 AM
But really aren’t all illegal immigrants already committing a crime by being here illegally? Therefore, if we are to remove all immigrants here committing crimes, then they’re all on the list. No?
sweetlipsbutterhoney on June 20, 2007 at 1:51 AM
And where is all the condemnation from MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving)??? They are strangely silent on the issue of illegal aliens driving drunk.
calnevari on June 20, 2007 at 1:52 AM
This invasion is going to result in civil war. Just give it 15 years. The power vacuum that is the US government is living on borrowed time.
PRCalDude on June 20, 2007 at 2:05 AM
Even if it were true, Geraldo’s claim that illegal aliens commit (other) crimes in the same or lower ratio to others is invalid. The law (courts) and order (police) segments of our society are already strained to the limit dealing with crimes committed by legal residents.
aunursa on June 20, 2007 at 2:27 AM
Just a hard working illegal who will do the work Americans won’t. Kill your kids. And they do this particular job 6 times as much. That is right. Illegals have six times the crime rate of the general population. Not exactly the god fearing, church going, Republicans that Bush and Snow describe, is it?
pat on June 20, 2007 at 2:42 AM
I live in San Jose, how close are you?
————————————————
Welcome to the best blog on the Web. Now, dazzle us. :D
JayHaw Phrenzie on June 20, 2007 at 2:59 AM
I was going to make some crack about “newcomers”, El Presidente Jorge’s latest euphemism, but after reading about those three people I’m just too pissed off. How about we take care of Americans first, and worry about the needs of foreign criminals somewhere a lot farther down the list? Never would suit me just fine.
ReubenJCogburn on June 20, 2007 at 3:56 AM
You’re right BC. It happens almost every day somewhere in this country. People like Geraldo want to change the subject - “blame the drunk drivers - not the illegals”. They then go on to charge the rest of us as being bigots and anti-imigrationists among other things. In other words, we are the bad guys - not the illegal aliens who get drunk, drive cars and kill people.
The bottom line and the truth is - if this particular drunk illegal had been deported for his prior DWI’s and had not been in this country driving (probably without a license) at that particular time those particular people would not be dead. Why is this so hard for Geraldo and his ilk to understand?
OBX Pete on June 20, 2007 at 4:21 AM
Patrick, thank you for staying on these stories. It seems like you and Joseph Farah are the only ones putting any effort into informing the public of this incredibly important aspect of the alien invasion.
Freelancer on June 20, 2007 at 4:30 AM
I wonder if Lindsay Graham will cry over these lives.
He could win an Academy Award that Lindsay Graham.
Blubbering jackass.
benrand on June 20, 2007 at 5:48 AM
First of all, Welcome to Hot Air! Patterico .
Of course the trouble with deporting guys like this is that they will just sneak back in. You know no matter what they do here, if they aren’t wanted for crimes in Mexico, even if our Justice(?) Department / ICE makes a deal for them to be imprisoned down there, they will be released within days and head north immediately, and buy another identity.
I hate to pay for their imprisonment here, but they need to be punished. And punished hard….
I’m so sick of these illegals driving drunk (or just driving while stupid) I wouldn’t complain if the Feds or the States made law tripling the normal maximum sentences, at hard labor, for crimes committed by illegal aliens. People as bad as the person in the above report should just be executed, and any assets (ha!, right) given to their victims.
My Ex, back in Phoenix, AZ, has been hit by uninsured illegal aliens from Mexico TWICE in the last three years; One was drunk, speeding and ran a stop-light, one was just stupid (ran a stop sign while talking on her cell-phone.). Both ‘totaled’ my Ex’s car and caused her moderate, probably permanent, physical injuries.
Both got off ’scott free’, and for the ’stupid one’, (according to her, anyway), my Ex’s uninsured motorists insurance paid for the illegal and her nino’s medical expenses, lawyer and vehicle repairs. None one of them could ‘habla ingles’.
And now, while having no moving violations in 20 years, my Ex is paying over $4,000 a year in insurance premiums, without comprehensive, while driving a used car that cost less than two years premium.
This has got to stop.
LegendHasIt on June 20, 2007 at 6:55 AM
Patterico has it right (and welcome), until you live somewhere like So. Cal. you have no idea of the impact. Any emergency room in so. cal. after 9 pm and you will be the only english speaking person in the room. We pay taxes and we can’t get emergency health care in a timely manner. Auto insurance? estimates are that over 50% of the immigrant (read Mexican/Hispanic) do not have insurance. They always borrow someones car, so if they get in an accident they often run. Now you can’t prove who was driving or at fault, hence no arrests. It is a mess. Massive amount of money going to educated illegal immigrants children, sucking resources from our taxpayers (teachers unions love this)…you have to live in it to believe it. And the kids, well two friends of my children (7th grade), shot and killed by illegal immigrants defending “their” turf. They say they can’t find illegal immigrants? Just stop by your local Home Depot, they are standing out front.
right2bright on June 20, 2007 at 7:37 AM
Also a note, on Staurday night a drunk illegal, Victor Benitez, killed a girl in Nashville that was just a few months away from graduating from Tennessee State University.
“In February 2006, Benitez was arrested on three counts of car burglary and two counts of attempted theft. Nine months later, he was arrested on charges of public intoxication, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Convicted on the three charges, Benitez spent seven days in jail. “
GOP and College on June 20, 2007 at 7:49 AM
Deport them? El Presidente Bush wants to make all illegals here model citizens. Criminals? What criminals?
I lived in the Houston area for 22 years…and witnessed its decline personally. All of these Mexicans bring all of the standards to new lows….restaurants (I’ve never had food poinsoning so much in my life as when I lived in TX), and any other service industry employment. I’d rather pay higher prices than dumb down this nation. I’m sick and tired of this. Those who support Bush’s illegal alien plan in the GOP must go…fired!
lynnv on June 20, 2007 at 7:52 AM
It might be interesting, if it’s possible, to have a running total of casualties caused by illegal aliens.
The MSM continually justifies their publication of Iraq casualty counts in order to “enlighten the American public.”
It seems to me that running a similar number, based on current calendar year for example, including all fatalities that can be attributed to illegals might be instructive.
Then, based on the Governments own projections if their freakin Amnesty passes, it would be quite easy to extrapolate what these numbers will be in the future.
there it is on June 20, 2007 at 8:09 AM
so tired of the “hard working… do work no one else will do” phrases.
Of course if you are here breaking laws, you won’t apply for top level government jobs. Of course if you think a dollar a day salary is a fortune, you’ll do the job.
Obviously there are also lazy illegals. I used to live in a virtually all illegal Mexican neighborhood in Brooklyn. trust me, every Mexican was not out working “hard” 24 hours a day. There were drunks, and losers just like there are in every culture. Bad seed for every good seed.
I wish the games would stop. If someone has broken the law, then they should pay the price. That IS the law. Period.
Why is it so important that the US allow illegal aliens citizenship? What can they offer that legal immigrants can’t? I’m so confused. Would someone please remind me what exactly is the point again?
flipflopper on June 20, 2007 at 8:47 AM
This type of thing makes me ill. And incredibly angry. How could this be his 4th DUI conviction?? You or I, fellow citizens, would be in jail, before the 4th. How many more innocent people will die senslessly before the lawmakers of this country wake up?
4shoes on June 20, 2007 at 8:48 AM
Round em up, ship em out, mass troops on the border, shoot if they attempt to breach our perimeter. Problem solved.
Viper1 on June 20, 2007 at 8:59 AM
Incredibly sad.
nailinmyeye on June 20, 2007 at 9:05 AM
Howie Carr reads police blotters from around New England on the air almost everyday to highlight the number of illegal aliens caught DWI, DWOL, Driving and unregistered, uninsured vehicle, etc., during the previous couple of days. It usually goes on for about 5 minutes.
Howie had the number. He had somebody on who was with an institute or maybe even a member of the House who had the number. 25,000/yr rings a bell. If I have time today I’ll find the specifics and post it here.
TheBigOldDog on June 20, 2007 at 9:08 AM
Empathy before enforcement. That is how the problem has been framed by the government and media for the last 50 years, and we fell for it. Good business for everyone. As a society we could claim how forgiving we are while pocketing the profits. Rule of law? Which one? The ones that say ’send-em-packin’ or the ones that say ‘let-em-stay’? Choose the first one and you are a bigot. Choose the second one and you are a team player. Here, watch this show, and have some fruit, we are taking care of the problem.
(apologies to HA for originally posting this on the wrong thread)
Limerick on June 20, 2007 at 9:08 AM
Another young victim .
jeffNWV on June 20, 2007 at 9:09 AM
Its ok folks, this is a sacrifice Bush, McCain & Rudy are willing to make!
Nothing to see here….
DwnSouthJukin on June 20, 2007 at 9:10 AM
This is insane. The Federal government has completely abandoned its Constitutional responsibility to protect our borders, and they’re blaming us for their inaction. It’s like an ongoing ‘Invasion of the Body Snatchers’ in Washington D.C.
infidel4life on June 20, 2007 at 9:15 AM
I agree Patterico — but how do we keep them from coming back? I know, I know, secure the border. I’m not trying to sound sarcastic, but dang this situation is out of control and our Congressional representatives (not Wyoming’s but most others) are more concerned with making these criminals citizens. Like we don’t have enough criminals without them.
wytammic on June 20, 2007 at 9:16 AM
Deport them to Siberia. It’ll make running back across the border a lot more challenging.
Mindcrime on June 20, 2007 at 9:19 AM
One of these days it’s going to come to the point of revolution against our govenment. It won’t be pretty, but that’s what its going to come to.
Will it be sparked by another terrrorist attack caused by an Islamofacist who came in through Mexico? Will it be sparked by one too many innocent lives taken by these thugs who don’t deserve to live in decent society? I don’t know, but if nothing is done to stop this flow, then remove the illegals, then the day will come when the people revolt.
I really hope that it never comes to that, but I fear my hopes are in vain.
Pulchritudinous Patriot on June 20, 2007 at 9:21 AM
We might as well just annex Mexico and call it South Texas.
I heard on the radio the other day that a census was taken down there and something like 50% of all families in Mexico have relatives working in the U.S.
Sure it would be a logistical nightmare, but if we annexed the place we could probably secure its southern border a hell of a lot easier. And we’d have all the cheap labor we could ever want.
Mindcrime on June 20, 2007 at 9:28 AM
Drunk Driving is not an Illigal Alien problem.
The guy didn’t crash the car because he was illegal. He crashed the car because he was drunk. There are tens of thousands of these accidents per year caused by citizens.
On the other hand, the guy should have been deported at the first encounter with any law enforcement officer. The fact that he wasn’t is the real tragedy.
The accident is very tragic, but IMHO it shouldn’t be used to support the anti-amnesty push. It’s an appeal to emotion but his drunk driving doesn’t have anything to do with him being illegal.
AlexB on June 20, 2007 at 9:28 AM
I think the point is that illegals who commit crimes here are not prosecuted like they should be. If the drunk in the article quoted had been prosecutedper normal, he’d have been deported on his first violation and, assuming he didn’t jackrabbit back across the border, would never have killed anyone.
Mindcrime on June 20, 2007 at 9:32 AM
Welcome to Texas! You Yankee folks don’t even know the half of it. All the crap from Mexico comes through the DFW area. From drugs to pedophiles to domestic crimes and their Alcoholic culture. Some statistics that don’t even get noticed are the “anchor” babies that grow up with the same disregard for American culture and law. DWI is a family tradition. Borders should have been closed in the 80’s then it definitely should be closed after 911. But the folks who are sworn to protect us don’t have it in their plans to close the border. They don’t want any borders. Just wait until suicide bombers come across that border. Supposedly bombers are planning to come through Canada right now! But I think that is a ploy to sneak in bombers through Mexico. It only makes sense. Path of least resistance!
Drtuddle on June 20, 2007 at 9:33 AM
Hey Geraldo is blogging on Hot Air!
Drtuddle on June 20, 2007 at 9:37 AM
Would these 3 people be alive today if this illegal alien was not in this country?
This is just one of many crimes committed by people who do not belong in this country. We have enough crime without allowing illegal aliens to remain her to help commit more, like drunk driving.
Wade on June 20, 2007 at 9:37 AM
Actually, in this case, it has everything to do with him being illegal. If he wasn’t here, this accident would not have happened.
wytammic on June 20, 2007 at 9:38 AM
That would be a valid argument is there was a set amount of crime and it was just divided up among the population. Unfortunately it is aggregate. You add criminals, you add crime. Conversely, subtract criminals, subtract crime. It’s a valid consideration in regard to adding citizens to the country.
Patterico: Welcome! The fame of your regiment has preceded you, sir.
Spirit of 1776 on June 20, 2007 at 9:40 AM
Killing people Americans don’t want to kill…
profitsbeard on June 20, 2007 at 9:43 AM
Would you be so fast to feel this way if it were your pregnant wife and daughter killed by this illegal alien who has been allowed to stay in this country with 3 prior DWI’s?
Do you understand that the current Shamnesty bill would make him legal the day the bill is signed? This is indeed about “support the anti-amnesty push“
Wade on June 20, 2007 at 9:44 AM
Illegal behavior by illegal aliens becomes everyone’s problem when they start killing us.
infidel4life on June 20, 2007 at 9:48 AM
The fact remains that this accident would not have happened if the criminal had been where he was supposed to be, which is anywhere accept in this country in that vehicle.
Coyote D. on June 20, 2007 at 9:55 AM
Ha, that was the first thing I thought.
EnochCain on June 20, 2007 at 9:56 AM
Patterico, welcome. It’s good to have you here. You’ll complement quite well the fine job that Hotair already does.
Your illustration and all the other evidence we’ve seen leads me to say the following. It may seem a bit outrageous, but hear me out. It’s a reaction to the atrocities reported above and the commenters’ responses.
I’d be all in favor of impeaching Jorge Bush if he doesn’t immediately do his job as our chief executive and enforce the laws already on our books. This situation is an absolute outrage. Perhaps Dick Cheney possesses the pair necessary to get the job done. Other comments reveal people talking about open revolt and civil war in our future. Impeachment would suck, but the mere presence of these sentiments sucks a lot more and reveals an impeachable dereliction of duty by el presidente. Perhaps the absolute insult of having the articles drafted and submitted by one of his own party would wake him up to the dire situation here, or perhaps it would give us someone who would then have to understand that non-enforcement is not an option. Cheney ‘07, Thompson ‘08.
flutejpl on June 20, 2007 at 10:02 AM
As I said in the original post: the real tragedy is that he wasn’t kicked out of the country the first time he was arrested.
Yes, if he wasn’t in the country this wouldn’t have happened. But it’s not like drunk driving that kills will stop when all illegal aliens are deported.
Be angry at this piece of sh!t for killing 3 people, and be angry at the government for not deporting him the first time they caught him. But don’t fall into the trap of thinking that he killed the woman because he was an illegal alien.
I happen to side with Geraldo on that issue when he sparred with Papa Bear… but it’s probably the only issue.
AlexB on June 20, 2007 at 10:12 AM
RIP Maria, Vanessa, and Nathaniel.
RushBaby on June 20, 2007 at 10:15 AM
Right. He killed them because he has absolutely no respect for our laws, which is also why he’s an illegal alien. And if we had any respect for our laws, he wouldn’t have been here to do it.
Pablo on June 20, 2007 at 10:18 AM
Do any of those narcissistic politicians have any idea what’s going on out here . . . or are they completely blinded by their need to provide cheap labor for their corporate contributors and their quest to buy votes? The Republic is indeed in peril.
rplat on June 20, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Yes, they have all committed crimes. But we need to prioritize! ICE tends to first focus on individuals who have been attempting to follow the legal process for legalization and run into roadblocks! Why are they hassling individuals actually trying to follow the law versus individuals already in our jails and prisons?
The House needs to add to the current bill to focus ICE deportation to first identify and deport those in our jails and prisons!!
Those working and staying out of trouble are not a priority for me! Once the fence is built, criminals (DUI’s, felons, gangmembers, and drug dealer/runners) are being deported; then we can discuss legalization for individuals who wish to properly get in line with everyone else!!
SSG Fuzzy on June 20, 2007 at 10:37 AM
About 4 years ago I lost a dear friend, and a truly outstanding person, in a gruesome car/truck accident on a Fort Worth freeway.
The other driver was a young female illegal alien, with no driver’s license and of course no insurance. She somehow managed, in rush hour traffic, to get her car to jump the median and cross over into the lane of oncoming traffic. Her car sheared the cab off my friend’s pick up.
Luckily, he died instantly.
Labamigo on June 20, 2007 at 10:38 AM
Oops, fixed it.
SSG Fuzzy on June 20, 2007 at 10:38 AM
That’s it in a nutshell. No respect for any of our laws, but they do posses a keen understanding of how to exploit our laws.
reaganaut on June 20, 2007 at 10:41 AM
But they are going to try to deport the wife of one of our missing soldiers who is an illegal.
This is insane.
WisCon on June 20, 2007 at 11:06 AM
Two separate accidents with illegals in the last few months in my area, involving a DWI illegal, have taken the lives of innocent people. In one accident a father and young son died in a firer crash. Another took out several people. This is in NC. Sad.
This was a few years ago, but there was a van full of obviously non English speaking hispanic men in a van in the parking lot, kinking down 40 oz bottles of beer in the late after noon. It was clear they had got of work doing construction and where thirsty. I thought about calling the cops, but did not.
gmcjetpilot on June 20, 2007 at 11:27 AM
gmcjetpilot on June 20, 2007 at 11:27 AM
I’m afraid the pendulum is going to have to swing back to Law and Order before citizens will want to “become involved”.
RushBaby on June 20, 2007 at 11:33 AM
I’ve developed a 9/11 Truther-level paranoia about dot gov over their handling of illegal immigration. Is that bad?
PRCalDude on June 20, 2007 at 11:36 AM
If Fox latches on to this, watch Geraldo once again whine about this being a drunk driving issue rather than an illegal issue.
The fact remains, had he been deported immediately, those people would be alive today.
It is an illegal issue.
drjohn on June 20, 2007 at 11:36 AM
Deport illegals who commit criminal acts… YES!
Isn’t there a train running from LA to the border we could put them on? Freight train, of course… cattle car.
CliffHanger on June 20, 2007 at 11:39 AM
JayHaw,
Twenty miles north.
aunursa on June 20, 2007 at 11:42 AM
It is absolutely correct that this POS should have been deported after the first DUI, and we should get the statistics on how many Americans are killed each year by illegals. Then give these stats to the anti-amnesty politicians and hammer the pro-amnesty pols relentlessly.
However, after the third DUI he should have been allowed to stay….in prison for the rest of his life.
DUI should be a strict 3-strikes law, if not 2-strikes. Whether they are illegal aliens or natural-born Americans, repeat DUIs have no business whatsoever walking around free when they have demonstrated such a callous disregard for others’ lives.
Lancer on June 20, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Great… and have taxpayers foot the bill for his incarceration. I’d rather pay for a one-way ticket back to his home country.
CliffHanger on June 20, 2007 at 11:58 AM
I’d give him a car, a 12-pack, and a stretch of border road to call his own.
James on June 20, 2007 at 12:15 PM
FYI: DWI/DUI is not a deportable offense. However, if and hopefully when, this piece of turd is convicted, he will become an aggravated felon and therefore deportable.
The following link is something I seen on the web. The winning design for the Arizona state quarter. Fitting for McCain and Kyl.
LurP on June 20, 2007 at 12:17 PM
See, I’m thinking, ANY infraction should be. All the way down to flicking a cigarette butt out the car window.
RushBaby on June 20, 2007 at 12:25 PM
Thanks to the Jawa guys, here is a personal email list of senators & staff. Enjoy.
locomotivebreath1901 on June 20, 2007 at 12:26 PM
isn’t the Merc grand? The best part of that paper is the Fry’s add…..
I’m in SJ also…. Go Sharks!
liquidflorian on June 20, 2007 at 12:30 PM
Just posted on Drudge. No details yet.
Could be that the backlash…..
there it is on June 20, 2007 at 12:30 PM
Which, if the cig butt triggers a massive brush fire, becomes a felony.
CliffHanger on June 20, 2007 at 12:33 PM
Not good
RushBaby on June 20, 2007 at 12:39 PM
A friend of mine at the Westchester (NY) DA’s office has often said that the vast majority of the office’s time is prosecuting, then re-prosecuting, then re-re-prosecuting illegals.
IIRC there was a specific initiative in connection with the Senate proposal to prevent deporation of even the criminals.
BillLalor on June 20, 2007 at 12:58 PM
You can’t keep the criminals from coming back in until you secure the border by building the fence.
So, it should be:
Arrest mayors and police who follow sanctuary city policies.
Arrest and detain the lawbreakers like the bunch of fecal matter mentioned above (4th DUI incident).
Build a bloody fence and hire more guards.
Deport all the criminals.
linlithgow on June 20, 2007 at 1:02 PM
Thereitis wondered if there was a running tally of lives lost to illegal aliens. The closest thing I’ve found is Immigration’s Human Cost. It’s not a tally per se but the magnitude of the problem is terribly shocking nonetheless.
Redhead Infidel on June 20, 2007 at 1:05 PM
calnevari-
Actually MADD has a little unpublicised warning about how driving while drunk is a rite of passage in Mexico: http://www.madd.org/aboutus/0,1056,2552,00.html
linlithgow on June 20, 2007 at 1:06 PM
Wife of Soldier Missing in Iraq Faces Deportation, Attorney Says
Just friggin’ great. Here I sit and say deport the illegals when you find them and then something like this happens, or what I classify as worst case scenario. If there are provisions in the law to allow her receiving a green card as her lawyer contends then it should be granted. If however there isn’t then she must abide by the ruling of the immigration courts. It hurts me to say that but soldiers are not above the law which is pretty obvious due to the number of them now behind bars. It does break my heart to say that
LakeRuins on June 20, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Can we please be against drunk driving and the invasion, concurrently? Some commenters…this is not a political issue. It’s a human tragedy.
Here’s a significant tip - here in Southern Calif. one often sees gardeners and construction workers, yes of Latino backgrounds, standing around at breaks, or after work, drinking beer after beer. If you have something to say, if you hire them or supervise them - fire them and by all means don’t let them drink and then drive. Tell them why. Some drive away total lushes who can barely stand, forget about thinking clearly. Trust me, where I had influence I already took such action.
The miracle is that not more such tragedies occur.
These are not immigrants, neither legal or illegal. Immigration can only be of the legal kind. Let’s stop kidding ourselves and name it an invasions, and invaders, and then deal with it.
The #1 problem is not the lack of a continuous 20 feet fence - it’s the hypermagnet of employers getting away with hiring such cheap labor. The media, the government, left and right, and even us are not naming the real elephant. Until then, we can’t solve it.
Entelechy on June 20, 2007 at 1:18 PM
Everyone here calls for deportation, however without any kind of barrier and/or fence in place what stops the deportee from walking right back into country?
SPIFF1669 on June 20, 2007 at 1:18 PM
SPIFF1669, you can’t build a 50 feet fence all around the U.S.A. Yes, we can do waaaay more to have real and virtual means to protect our border. Still that will not solve it. See above. We can dance around this forever. So long as the honey/steak is there, the wasps are going to come.
Entelechy on June 20, 2007 at 1:23 PM
It is a fact and indisputable the woman, her daughter, and a fetus are dead because this POS is in the country illegally.
The instrument of death has nothing to do with that fact. If you have a issue with drunk drivers then use your argument to address drink and driving. This issue is about 3 deaths, illegal aliens and deportation.
Makes no difference, drinking, gunned down, stabbed to death, etc, the fact remains, and remains indisputable, they are dead because of this illegal alien.
Wade on June 20, 2007 at 1:32 PM
If the Senate was not in the middle of a hugely controversial immigration bill, this incident would most likely have been confined to local news and would not have come to the attention of a political blog. Whenever there is a political issue at stake, a human tragedy may come to symbolize the issue, and become the tipping point.
RushBaby on June 20, 2007 at 1:35 PM
Nothing will be done until a celebrity is killed by a drunk driver.
In the larger picture we’ll have to get nuked a few times before we change policies on foreigners here illegally.
Mojave Mark on June 20, 2007 at 1:37 PM
The director of “Christmas Story” was killed by an illegal..does that count?
EnochCain on June 20, 2007 at 1:41 PM
Depends if you wish to look at it emotionally or look at the facts. Don’t see anyone who is saying because this is political it is not a tragedy, but if politically we would get off the PC crap and uphold the law this human tragedy would have never happened.
Wade on June 20, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Apparently not considering how quickly that story dropped off the MSM radar.
infidel4life on June 20, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Wade, I was responding to this AlexB on June 20, 2007 at 10:12 AM, and other similar comments which were using the excuse of “oh well, all drunk drivers can kill, and it has nothing to do with the killer being an illegal…”
Entelechy on June 20, 2007 at 2:14 PM
We need to highlight these tragic stories, to counter the BS sob stories.
From my local paper this morning
It’s all about families
WASHINGTON - As Limbano Santizo, a former Springfield, Mass., resident and factory worker, was being deported back to Guatemala yesterday, his wife, Elora, stood in front of the White House with a photograph of him and their 7-year-old son, asking the president to help deliver an immigration reform package that wouldn’t divide families.
Underneath the poster-size photograph of the father and son at Christmas was the question: “Where’s my father on Father’s Day?”
….puke….
reaganaut on June 20, 2007 at 2:15 PM
ED Hill on Fox this morning reported on the TSU track runner killed by an illegal. She also reported this, in Madison County (didn’t say which state), the police decided to ask people they arrested if they were illegal or legal. In a six week study, the 631 people arrested, 75% were here illegally.
If illegals only make-up 5% of the workforce, then what are over 12 million doing here? They aren’t working that’s for sure. Most likely over staying visas and not working. So, there’s no reason not to deport.
moonsbreath on June 20, 2007 at 2:18 PM
It’s important to note, GERALDO, that it is not a racist issue when those being killed by hispanic illegals are also hispanic. It’s about systemic law breaking.
As Entelechy said, we need to cut off the head of the snake- the employers who hire these people, to solve the problem. Of course, to do that we need to have a GOOD method of identification, not some easily-counterfeited flimsy paper ss card.
And thereitis, here’s a link that follows some of the illegal immigration numbers. Read it and weep.
NTWR on June 20, 2007 at 2:23 PM
So a sanctuary city and an illegal alien kills three generations in a moment.
This is so preventable and that’s what makes it so heinous of all sanctuary cities to continue to look the other way.
Senator Salazar, I hope you’re paying attention here.
A mom and daughter who
isWAS (wipe a tear) a pregnant mom.shooter on June 20, 2007 at 2:23 PM
That story about a Texas mob killing a (Hispanic)passenger of a car that struck the little boy has an element to it which isn’t address enough. The crowd was from a Juneteenth celebration–the annual celebration of the Emancipation Proclamation. So the crowd was probably composed of mostly black people.
Very bad and bad portent of things to come.
(Hi Patrick!)
baldilocks on June 20, 2007 at 2:33 PM
We’ve got a thread open about that.
Allahpundit on June 20, 2007 at 2:34 PM
Uh, easy solution there kiddo…have dear old dad not break the law or go to Guatemala with him….ta dah, no more divided families!
hollygolightly on June 20, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Thanks Patterico. The more people that see this, the better. Fer cryin out loud, let’s concentrate on securing the dang border now, and that alone. Once that is done we can start throwing the captured criminals over the fence. We can then make decisions on illegals that are here and otherwise living a prosperous life, like the case that is going on now in Minnesota. This woman is married and has children, all of which are legal, and was captured by I.C.E. at her home. I don’t know all the circumstances, but why are they putting so much work into people like her and not all the illegal criminals here? Oh, by the way, accross the river from us in St Paul, is a sanctuary city. (Murderapolis)
oakpack on June 20, 2007 at 2:59 PM
across*
oakpack on June 20, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Comment pages: [1] 2 »