“Deport the Criminals First” — An Illegal Alien Drunk Driver Snuffs Out Three Human Lives in Texas

posted at 1:28 am on June 20, 2007 by Patterico

I have long argued that any effort to deport illegal aliens should begin with those illegals who commit crimes after they arrive — especially crimes that endanger people’s lives. In my home town of Los Angeles alone, 34,000 illegal aliens flow through county jails every year — yet only a fraction of that number is identified and deported. This sickening failure is replicated across the country, day after day — meaning criminals who shouldn’t be in the country in the first place are set free to commit more crimes.

Recently, our failure to Deport the Criminals First cost three more human lives.

From the March 29, 2007 edition of the Houston Chronicle:

[Ignacio] Gomez-Gutierrez was driving with a blood-alcohol content that was three times the legal limit when he plowed into the rear of a car on U.S. 59 near the entrance to Kingwood, investigators said. The car’s occupants, Maria Ortiz and her daughter, Vanessa, who was five months pregnant, died instantly.

Vanessa Ortiz was carrying a baby boy, and his name was Nathaniel.

Blogger Texas Rainmaker witnessed the accident, and reports: “It was a terrible wreck and I was in shock in seeing the car crumpled like a soda can.” He links to a video of the aftermath of the accident, from which this still image was taken:

crumpled-car.jpg

Here’s the kicker: the culprit is an illegal alien, and this is his fourth DWI offense.

Gomez-Gutierrez, a 25-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico, is now facing his fourth drunken driving charge. But this time it has been elevated to two counts of intoxicated manslaughter and failure to stop and render aid. Investigators say he fled from his disabled vehicle after the wreck.

The handling of Gomez-Gutierrez’s case has sparked criticism from victim advocates. They say they are upset not only for what they call lenient sentences but because immigration officials did not deport him after he finished serving time on three prior DWI convictions in 2002, 2004 and 2005.

Three prior DWIs and not one single deportation.

Who is at fault? The Harris County Sheriff’s Department blames the feds for not deporting illegals. But local police in Houston have a sanctuary policy that prevents officers from asking suspects about their citizenship status.

There is plenty of blame to go around. The failure is systemic; it occurs at every level of government — from cities like Houston that perpetuate sanctuary policies, to the federal government, which refuses to staff local jails with enough ICE agents.

The bottom line is simple: until we are deporting every single illegal alien who is in this country committing crimes and putting people’s lives at risk, don’t talk to me about amnesty. Maria Ortiz, Vanessa Ortiz, and Nathaniel Ortiz deserved better from our government.

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SPIFF1669, you can’t build a 50 feet fence all around the U.S.A.

Maybe not, But… WE CAN BUILD A 20 FOOT FENCE 2700 MILES LONG AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER.

Not much said about the sanctuary city problem here. Immigration , ICE, Feds, no one anywhere, were ever told of this guy or any other illegal alien criminal in Houston.
We must stop all federal funds to sanctuary cities. From hospitals to roads and everything in between.

A very BIG fence and current laws enforced…it’s simple. Not easy, but simple.

shooter on June 20, 2007 at 3:10 PM

JayHaw,

I live in San Jose, how close are you?
Twenty miles north.

Small world. I reside in San Jose myself, and work for the Murky News!!

maintenanceman on June 20, 2007 at 3:31 PM

It’s time we stopped apologizing for criminal lawbreakers who, at the very least trespass (and probably a whole lot more) when they sneak across our border. I’m also tired of the “race card” being employed (even by Republicans) whenever somebody registers even a mild complaint about the atrocities these illegals are committing in this country.

The sad truth is that millions of “losers” who can’t make it in Mexico are streaming over here, lowering our living standards and, not surprisingly, raising Mexico’s. Now, Bush wants to reward them with citizenship.

MaiDee on June 20, 2007 at 3:40 PM

The sad truth is that millions of “losers” who can’t make it in Mexico are streaming over here, lowering our living standards and, not surprisingly, raising Mexico’s. Now, Bush wants to reward them with citizenship.

MaiDee on June 20, 2007 at 3:40 PM

45% of the illegal immigrants in this country are OTMs (other than Mexicans). Including illegals from “Countries of Interest” (have terrorist networks). Please don’t single out Mexicans.

And BTW, Mexico’s government is to blame for the poverty in that country. Mexican citizens are NOT losers, except in a metaphorical sense, of the cosmic lottery.

RushBaby on June 20, 2007 at 3:59 PM

The director of “Christmas Story” was killed by an illegal..does that count?

EnochCain on June 20, 2007 at 1:41 PM

Did the he shoot his eye out?

James on June 20, 2007 at 4:05 PM

Makes no difference, drinking, gunned down, stabbed to death, etc, the fact remains, and remains indisputable, they are dead because of this illegal alien.

Ok. Then following this reasoning, that poor border enforcement is the principal problem that has caused this death, one could say that if some illegal immigrant saved some granny or a baby from a burning house, then illegal immigration should be credited, and therefore border enforcement should stop altogether.

But obviously that’s a false chain of logic.

AlexB on June 20, 2007 at 4:37 PM

Thx,
Redhead Infidel & NTWR

I checked out both links and you’re right, the analytical evidence to support being against this “Amnesty” bill is overwhelming.

Thank God, Good Folks are keeping track.

Chertoff, Bush, and it hurts me to say this, Tony Snow (among many others) are being disingenuous as they try and prop up this anti-American piece of crap bill.

And when I say disingenuous, I am using a euphemism for
lying.

there it is on June 20, 2007 at 4:44 PM

…45% of the illegal immigrants in this country are OTMs…

RushBaby on June 20, 2007 at 3:59 PM

Let’s say that’s true, even though it doesn’t seem to pass the smell test. That means that of the 125+ other countries in the world, 55% of our illegal invaders come from one.

Just for a little perspective.

Jaibones on June 20, 2007 at 5:19 PM

I have long argued that any effort to deport illegal aliens should begin with those illegals who commit crimes after they arrive — especially crimes that endanger people’s lives.

Does this include those who used stolen/fake SSI cards? I am a victim of one of these people, and if you aren’t willing to deport them (which means easily over 80% of adult illegals), then you are are supporting criminals to be granted amnesty.

I will say it again:

Mass immigration was fine, when the Government wasn’t handing out checks for being stupid/poor, but now it is just a plan for financial destruction. We now should only let educated immigrants and spouses in.

Tim Burton on June 20, 2007 at 5:21 PM

how do we keep them from coming back?

Execute the egregious ones like this one that kill people. They won’t come back from the grave. I guarantee it.

Purple Avenger on June 20, 2007 at 5:31 PM

Anursa, JayHaw, Liquid, Maintenance-

Go Sharks! I’m a SJer too!

Lost on June 20, 2007 at 5:41 PM

calnevari-

Actually MADD has a little unpublicised warning about how driving while drunk is a rite of passage in Mexico: http://www.madd.org/aboutus/0,1056,2552,00.html

linlithgow on June 20, 2007 at 1:06 PM

Absolutely true. I used to do neighbor’s lawns (before the Illegal Mexicans undercut my billing), and every house that was next to a Mexican Nation, required me to clean up beer bottles from the oleander bushes.

I also worked at a couple of convenience stores and everyone of them, even the times I worked in the White neighborhoods had Mexicans purchasing more beer than other races. Usually non-Mexicans would get a 12 pack, but the Mexicans would get 18 packs (many times two of them).

All my Mexican friends from high school grew distant when they started drinking, whereas I was studying (and working to pay) for College.

Tim Burton on June 20, 2007 at 5:41 PM

Jaibones on June 20, 2007 at 5:19 PM

Pretty sure I heard that on talk radio, can’t cite the source. Probably shouldn’t have thrown it out there.

From my perspective, the percentages are not even that important to the real issue I have with illegal immigration, which is national security, as opposed to piling on Mexicans.

The link points to a series of articles in the San Antonio Express News by Todd Bensman. Brilliant reporting about U.S.-bound illicit travel from Islamic countries.

RushBaby on June 20, 2007 at 5:44 PM

Small world. I reside in San Jose myself, and work for the Murky News!!
maintenanceman on June 20, 2007 at 3:31 PM

Indeed- I’m a SJ’er too. Go Sharks!

Lost on June 20, 2007 at 5:47 PM

Ok. Then following this reasoning, that poor border enforcement is the principal problem that has caused this death, one could say that if some illegal immigrant saved some granny or a baby from a burning house, then illegal immigration should be credited, and therefore border enforcement should stop altogether.

But obviously that’s a false chain of logic.

AlexB on June 20, 2007 at 4:37 PM

What logic in you posts do you not understand when you use the word illegal. If you are against the USA and do not want a nation of laws then come out and say it. Don’t hide behind some silly emotional need.

Try this as a exercise in logic, replace in all you posts the words ‘illegal immigrant or aliens’ with ‘murders’ or if that is too harsh for you emotions ‘pedophile’.

Is there anyone else here who understands the thinking of AlexB? If so maybe you can explain to me where is that logic if her thinking?

Wade on June 20, 2007 at 6:00 PM

Patterico, welcome. Seeing you are in LA do you has access to how many murders are perpetrated each year in LA and what percentage of those known murderers are illegal aliens?

Wade on June 20, 2007 at 6:10 PM

Wife of Soldier Missing in Iraq Faces Deportation, Attorney Says
BOSTON — The wife of a soldier missing in Iraq could face deportation, her lawyer told a television station.
Army Spec. Alex Jimenez, who has been missing since his unit was attacked by insurgents in Iraq on May 12, had petitioned for a green card for his wife, Yaderlin, whom he married in 2004, Boston’s WBZ-TV reported Tuesday.
Their attorney, Matthew Kolken, said Yaderlin illegally entered the United States from the Dominican Republic in 2001.
Just friggin’ great. Here I sit and say deport the illegals when you find them and then something like this happens, or what I classify as worst case scenario. If there are provisions in the law to allow her receiving a green card as her lawyer contends then it should be granted. If however there isn’t then she must abide by the ruling of the immigration courts. It hurts me to say that but soldiers are not above the law which is pretty obvious due to the number of them now behind bars. It does break my heart to say that
LakeRuins on June 20, 2007 at 1:14 PM

Foxnews.com is running an article about this. Read the article carefully and you can see that it is manufactured propoganda. She is an illegal alien and yet ICE officals were asked and said the case is “inactive” and there hasnt even been a situation of of an “inactive” case becoming active and getting someone deported in a year and a half. Yet Senstors Kerry and Kennedy are sending letters this week all of a sudden lamenting this womans situation. Total media fabrication and propoganda due to the issues on capitial hill.

Resolute on June 20, 2007 at 6:18 PM

Alex B,

It’s simple. Even looking at it from Geraldo’s perspective that illegals commit crimes at the same rate as citizens do, then from the 12 to 20 million illegals here doing the jobs that unemployed and under-employed Americans won’t do we can expect several thousand murders, thousands of deaths and serious injuries from DUI’s, thousands of rapes, tens of thousands of thefts and drug offenses from those millions of illegals each and every year who should not even be here. When you consider the crime rates among people in the age and income groups that make up illegals, they are certainly dis-proportionately high compared to middle class, middle-aged college-level Americans. Not to mention all the costs of courts and hospitals and schools and other government spending required to make their stay complete.

Question is: is it worth it? Should we benefit from lower prices and readily-available lanscapers at the cost of not just human life but of thousands of fellow American’s lives?

That used to be a litmus test for liberals – will one life be lost? Oh, that we put a million guilty to death and but one was innocent… Will one life be saved? If we could save just one life, wouldn’t it be worth it?

Remember, unskilled Americans who are unemployed or not fully employed but who will not take these kinds of jobs (allegedly) are also committing crimes in some statistical proportion to their population, so the cost of illegal immigration plus the cost of our own unskilled and criminal classes have to be deducted from the economic gain of a dependable workforce for (debatably) undesireable jobs. It’s a big hole any way you look at it. Getting americans to do the work or starve would be the best strategy for dealing with crime and security in America.

shuzilla on June 20, 2007 at 6:31 PM

I’d like to see the local TV stations track down 60 Minutes style the employers of the illegals who kill our citizens. Let’s watch them scurry from the lights. They provide the incentive for the illegal to come. They provide the cash for the purchase of the illegal’s get-to-work wheels.

Then I’d like to see the new home owners or the guy who just had his lawn fertilized or the driver whose car had recently been repaired by that particular drunk driver and have them asked if the price break they got from undocumented labor was worth the life of the person, or family, pictured in the reporter’s hand.

I’d really like to see that each and every time a person is killed by someone who should not be here but has found work to sustain his visit.

shuzilla on June 20, 2007 at 6:51 PM

AlexB,

Ok. Then following this reasoning, that poor border enforcement is the principal problem that has caused this death, one could say that if some illegal immigrant saved some granny or a baby from a burning house, then illegal immigration should be credited, and therefore border enforcement should stop altogether.

No, the more specific problem is that this guy wasn’t deported after any of his 3 priors. Nonexistent border enforcement is a factor, and it is a problem in its own right, but this problem is much more egregious than that. This is a 3 time loser who should have been sent packing a long time ago. These deaths are a predictable result of the policy that left this guy in America.

Pablo on June 20, 2007 at 8:03 PM

Thanks for keeping this outrageous issue on the front burner Patterico.

Illegal alien (not ‘undocumented American’ or ‘newcomer’) law breakers must be deported immediately. Politicians and jurists who support them must not receive our votes/support. Enough is 100% more than enough.

I hope O’R, Beck, et al. continue to vitriolically force feed the ignorant TV masses with these gruesome realities. Innocents should not die in vain. This drum cannot be beat loud enough or often enough.

*Fortunately for us, with Boeing’s miracle–solve all our enforcement problems–border security cameras on the job (until illegals destroy them), we’ll be able to actually watch what few reprobates we deport return to kill another day (100% sarcasm intended).

BJ Phisch on June 20, 2007 at 8:04 PM

The accident is very tragic, but IMHO it shouldn’t be used to support the anti-amnesty push. It’s an appeal to emotion but his drunk driving doesn’t have anything to do with him being illegal.

AlexB on June 20, 2007 at 9:28 AM

How can you say that! It has everything to do with his being illegal.Drunk driving is illegal. Its called contempt for the law and when done in a group is called conspiricy which is also illegalFurthermore when an illegal act is commited in a repetitious manner for profit it then becomes more illegal under the Rico Act! You giving him a pass with claims of one not having to do with the other is flat wrong. That is what the whole objection of the conservative base is about The Rule Of Law!

sonnyspats1 on June 20, 2007 at 8:27 PM

But they are going to try to deport the wife of one of our missing soldiers who is an illegal.

This is insane.

WisCon on June 20, 2007 at 11:06 AM

I saw that too. These politicians have no commonsense or John Kerry orchestrated the whole fiasco so he could grand stand.

sonnyspats1 on June 20, 2007 at 8:35 PM

FYI: DWI/DUI is not a deportable offense.

I thought being illegal subjected anyone to deportation at any time.

Are you sure you’re not confusing this situation with rules for legal alien residents?

Patterico on June 20, 2007 at 9:38 PM

Well done Patterico.

Griz on June 20, 2007 at 10:01 PM

The suggestion that 45% of all illegals sneaking in from Mexico are non-Mexican is as ludicrous as stating that 45% of the sectarian violence in Iraq has been committed by Episcopalians. But let’s assume that 45% of all illegals are in fact Ituri Forest Pygmies, Blond Swedes from Stockholm,pony riders off the Mongolian Plains or simply lost tourists from Tasmania. The ONLY statistic which is germane is that ALL of them-100% are ILLEGAL TRESPASSING FELONS and should not be rewarded for it.

MaiDee on June 20, 2007 at 10:55 PM

Wade on June 20, 2007 at 6:00 PM
shuzilla on June 20, 2007 at 6:31 PM
Pablo on June 20, 2007 at 8:03 PM
sonnyspats1 on June 20, 2007 at 8:35 PM

Guys, I agree with you that he should have been kicked out of the country upon the first encounter with a law enforcement officer (as I said in my previous 2 comments). And of course I agree that America should be a “country of laws”. The sooner the illegals are kicked out and the borders enforced, the better it will be for America.

But we shouldn’t use that incident as an argument. I think it’s kind of cheap actually. Although it is very tempting.

Someone was saying that illegals are disproportionately criminal when compared to middle class college graduates. Of course they are.
But when you compare them to the poor segment of US citizens I’m sure you’ll find very similar numbers.
You’ve got the trailor trash and you’ve got the inner-city gangstas and the various mafias etc. etc.

AlexB on June 21, 2007 at 12:02 AM

Guys, I agree with you that he should have been kicked out of the country upon the first encounter with a law enforcement officer (as I said in my previous 2 comments). And of course I agree that America should be a “country of laws”. The sooner the illegals are kicked out and the borders enforced, the better it will be for America.

But we shouldn’t use that incident as an argument. I think it’s kind of cheap actually.

Huh? I’m using the incident as an argument that criminals like this should be kicked out of the country upon their first encounter with a law enforcement officer. You have said you agree with that. So what’s the problem?

Patterico on June 21, 2007 at 12:41 AM

Alla, I like Hot Airs layout a heck of lot better than the new one Michelle has. Really. Pardon me MM but it sucks. Big time. Who’s bright idea was it to change it to something so schmucky. It is hard as hell t read. What was wrong with the other one? I thought it was pretty darned nice. Really M. Go back to the original. Quickly. Thank You.

auspatriotman on June 21, 2007 at 1:29 AM

Hi Patterico. Looking forward to your guest posting. I’m here daily. Great place great site. Michele’s should look a quater as good. This–is a site!

auspatriotman on June 21, 2007 at 1:31 AM

The suggestion that 45% of all illegals sneaking in from Mexico are non-Mexican is as ludicrous as stating that 45% of the sectarian violence in Iraq has been committed by Episcopalians.

MaiDee on June 20, 2007 at 10:55 PM

Yeah, ludicrous. Good thing nobody referenced that percentage pertaining to illegals sneaking in from Mexico!

The ONLY statistic which is germane is that ALL of them-100% are ILLEGAL TRESPASSING FELONS and should not be rewarded for it.

Congratulations.

RushBaby on June 21, 2007 at 9:22 AM

I’m using the incident as an argument that criminals like this should be kicked out of the country upon their first encounter with a law enforcement officer. You have said you agree with that. So what’s the problem?

They should get kicked out of the country not because they drive drunk and kill. They should get kicked out of the country because they’re in the country illegally.

What makes me uncomfortable is that the entire illegal population in the US is implicitly being blamed for this horrible accident.

It’s like saying “no Arabs = no terrorism”.

I agree with most of what everyone here’s been saying, but I don’t like it when such incidents are being “politicized” and used to push an agenda, even if the agenda is 100% right. There’s no need for that. I’m just saying that there are countless other perfectly good reasons to push for border enforcement and kicking out illegals… there’s no need to use people’s deaths to do that. It can only be done once the illegals start an organized campaign of drinking, driving, and killing.

AlexB on June 21, 2007 at 9:25 AM

AlexB on June 21, 2007 at 12:02 AM

How about this?

jeffNWV on June 21, 2007 at 9:31 AM

jeffNWV on June 21, 2007 at 9:31 AM

If the guy’s illegal he should get kicked out of the country even if he’s a freakin saint.

The article only mentions 1 specific case of the Hispanic drunk driver being illegal. It doesn’t mention stats about how many of the Hispanics were illegal. So as far as we know the Hispanic drunk drivers are legal citizens.

If they are legal, what are you gonna do with them? Better enforcement, tougher laws, etc.

If the stats would’ve said that most of the drunk driving Hispanics are illegal aliens, then I will agree with Patterico.

AlexB on June 21, 2007 at 9:44 AM

AlexB on June 21, 2007 at 9:44 AM

It has everything to do with assimilation.

jeffNWV on June 21, 2007 at 10:19 AM

I’m making a specific argument about how to prioritize deportations. I am not trying to tar all illegals with this DWI incident.

Patterico on June 21, 2007 at 10:24 AM

What makes me uncomfortable is that the entire illegal population in the US is implicitly being blamed for this horrible accident.

AlexB on June 21, 2007 at 9:25 AM

Sorry you are uncomfortable AlexB but you should take the time to read more of the comments above.
Very many of them (including mine) are referring to this specific incident. We are NOT blaming the entire illegal population. We are blaming the illegal(s) specifically involved in this incident. If the illegal driving that car had been deported, as he should have been with previous DWIs, the people in the other car would not be dead.

OBX Pete on June 21, 2007 at 10:29 AM

I’m making a specific argument about how to prioritize deportations.
Patterico on June 21, 2007 at 10:24 AM

I guess if you want to start somewhere, it’s gotta be the ones breaking the law (other than being in the country illegally).

Though I hope this guy doesn’t get deported now… he has to pay for his crimes in the US.

AlexB on June 21, 2007 at 10:33 AM

What good is deportation when they are able to re-enter illegally with no repercussions?

jeffNWV on June 21, 2007 at 11:20 AM

There should be a fence / wall on the southern border just like the one Israel has built in WB. Everyone’s already seen how effective it is…

Imagine, 80% reduction (or more) in new illegal aliens in the country… in the cost of catching and processing them… in the saved jobs that could go to citizens…

What the hell is Bush (or the States) waiting for???

AlexB on June 21, 2007 at 11:42 AM

Execute the egregious ones like this one that kill people. They won’t come back from the grave. I guarantee it.

Purple Avenger on June 20, 2007 at 5:31 PM

Gee — and all this time I thought “deportation” was a reference to sending these people to another country, not sending them to another dimension (any place but planet Earth, I guess). Of course, I suppose it’ll only give the “open borders” people more ammunition, viz. deportation EQUALS genocide.

Not sure if it is possible to find anything funny in all of this, but this comment comes close:

Killing people Americans don’t want to kill…

profitsbeard on June 20, 2007 at 9:43 AM

Of course, no one here seems to have mentioned that there is no room for the illegal aliens convicted of DWI in southern California jails because, of course, it might crowd-out Paris Hilton.

/bitter irony off

CyberCipher on June 21, 2007 at 4:40 PM

…and his sentence will be more lenient because he’s a poor illegal immigrant who doesn’t know any better…

YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!!????????????????????

MsUnderestimated on June 22, 2007 at 12:23 AM

Gee … Did ya’ll just come to realize that the death of anyone of us is an acceptable loss in the “comprehensive” immigration game?

They don’t give a flyin’ hoot. They will sell you or I out in a nanosecond if it let them keep their seat in the next election.

AZ_Redneck on June 22, 2007 at 12:42 AM

I finally found my notes.

According to his appearance on Howie Carr’s show, Representative Steven King from Iowa, 25 people are killed each day by Illegal Aliens. You may be able to get the details from his website:

http://www.house.gov/steveking/

TheBigOldDog on June 22, 2007 at 8:36 AM

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