Video: Jesus wants you to nationalize health care, says Moore

posted at 5:53 pm on June 19, 2007 by Allahpundit

I hate when those wingnuts drag religion into a political discussion. Plus: bonus footage of Barbara giving “Sicko” two thumbs up and getting snotty with guest host Star Parker!



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Why didn’t Jesus cough up the truth about 9/11 while he was chatting away with Mike?

Kensington on June 19, 2007 at 5:54 PM

Jesus also wants Michael Moore to shut up. Shows ya how much Michael Moore cares about Jesus’ opinion.

Dusty on June 19, 2007 at 5:57 PM

I love that: “If you’re Republican or Democrat or whatever you are, this is an amazing film.” Uh yeah, especially if you’re a Democrat. And also, not if you’re a Republican.

Alex K on June 19, 2007 at 6:01 PM

It was Moore fer crying out loud, he actually made baby Jesus cry but altered it in the editing room.

bbz123 on June 19, 2007 at 6:02 PM

Way to go, Star. Kick Moore’s everloving faux Christian ass.

Dusty on June 19, 2007 at 6:02 PM

Jesus wants you to be charitable. How is the government taking money from you, by force, charitable? His line of reasoning is out of whack.

Interesting how Liberals always bring religion into something, when it can suit them politically. Otherwise, you don’t hear a peep about it from most of them.

amerpundit on June 19, 2007 at 6:03 PM

Barbara has always been easily amazed.

Dusty on June 19, 2007 at 6:03 PM

But seriously, why would Barbara Walters disgrace herself by giving Michael Moore the time of day. Yes, I know that their politics are very much in synch, but nonetheless, he has been proven, time after time, to be an untrustworty, dishonest filmmaker. Why doesn’t that prevent credible news people from embracing him?

Do they simply not care about his track record and intellectual dishonesty because he fights for the cause? Why lend such support and credibility to someone who’s going to make you look like a laughingstock?

Kensington on June 19, 2007 at 6:04 PM

Interesting how Liberals always bring religion into something, when it can suit them politically. Otherwise, you don’t hear a peep about it from most of them.
Yup, look at the message boards. All the leftards who would normally complain that conservatives are trying to push their morals on America are trumpeting universal health care as a “moral” issue. They do the same thing during their global warming hysterics.

Kensington on June 19, 2007 at 6:05 PM

Jesus wants you to buy Michael Moore DVDs.

On sale soon!

Good Lt on June 19, 2007 at 6:06 PM

I believe when our founders meant “domestic enemies to the Constitution” they had this man in mind. He is just plain anti-American.

“Don’t call it socialized medicine, call it Christianized medicine”

– I’m going to puke. As Mitt said, “You’ve got to be kidding me.”

Zetterson on June 19, 2007 at 6:09 PM

Jesus said that you can find Sicko on isohunt and watch it for free.

That’s better than paying, Jesus said.

Kensington on June 19, 2007 at 6:09 PM

After viewing that, I take back my request for a video, that I made in the “Elisabeth on Rosie” post. My bad.

abinitioadinfinitum on June 19, 2007 at 6:11 PM

Jesus wants us to refrain from lying. Are Michael Moore’s documentaries honest?

Rose on June 19, 2007 at 6:12 PM

That Marxist pig, Moore, can blow it out his ear or the orifice of his choice.

rplat on June 19, 2007 at 6:12 PM

Jesus want Moore to go through the buffet line only once.

pat on June 19, 2007 at 6:15 PM

It will be a cold day before I start taking direction about my faith from Michael Moore.

That said, as a Christian, I do have a problem with the state of health care in our country (world). It is simply unconscionable to me that someone should be denied health care because of a lack of money, or that serious health care decisions should be made solely with dollars and cents as the bottom line.

However, I am also not convinced that socializing the system is the answer to the problem.

nailinmyeye on June 19, 2007 at 6:16 PM

Hi Mike! The bible also says if a person won’t work then he doesn’t get to eat.

Mojave Mark on June 19, 2007 at 6:17 PM

Good answer Star! I get tired out this liberal policy of out sourcing good deeds to the government. It’s not really a gift anymore if you give taxes grudgingly and then a portion of them are wasted in bureaucracy. Church and state are not the same.

Spirit of 1776 on June 19, 2007 at 6:19 PM

Maybe Mike should follow Jesus’s example and die for our health care sins.

JayHaw Phrenzie on June 19, 2007 at 6:21 PM

So Michael Moore is now advocating that the U.S. government become a Christian theocracy?

He’s claims to be a Catholic, so I’ll cut him some slack for being a bit rusty with his Bible.

When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

- Matthew 25:31-46

Jesus wasn’t asking if people did such and such; He knows what we’ve done. He was telling them that what they charitably did to others was as if they had done it to Him, and that whay they uncharitably ignored about others was as if they had ignored Him.

To twist this concept as justification for government taxation to provide universal government healthcare is hypocrisy at its zenith. Jesus’ words in this passage are to individuals, applying them nationally is as wrong as it can be. And Star Parker’s interruption was dead on.

He didn’t say ‘Go in your neighbor’s pocket and make them do it…

Moore attempts to whitewash the soc*alism of the issue by renaming it “Christianized healthcare”. Well, I’m sure that suits all the atheists/agnostics just fine, right? /sarc What he fails to realize is that before government ever began to dig their claws in, “Christianized healthcare” was far closer to the truth than this abomination he would have forced upon us. The great majority of the hospital systems in this nation prior to the Great Depression were founded by faith organizations, whether Catholic, Jewish, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist…

Moore is the real SICKO.

Freelancer on June 19, 2007 at 6:22 PM

Who is this Star Parker?

Doesn’t that Bible also say it’s easier for a fat ass like Michael Moore to pass through the eye of a camel, then it is for a rich fast ass like Michael Moore to get to heaven?

Those Bible verses can get so crazy!

wryteacher on June 19, 2007 at 6:23 PM

oops, eye of a needle. sorry. need to get back to church….

wryteacher on June 19, 2007 at 6:25 PM

Jesus wants you to be charitable. How is the government taking money from you, by force, charitable? His line of reasoning is out of whack.

Interesting how Liberals always bring religion into something, when it can suit them politically. Otherwise, you don’t hear a peep about it from most of them.

amerpundit

I couldn’t have said that better myself.

Joshua P. Allem on June 19, 2007 at 6:25 PM

Jesus just left Chicago and he’s bound for New Orleans.
I am also a recovering catholic, and I believe Moore goes to church like I believe Hugo Chevas leads the Americas in freedom of the press. BabaWawa, I used to really like and respect her, now, I don’t know if I should feel sorry for her or just lump her in the the Cindy Sheehan’s of the world. I don’t have to watch Moore’s film to know it’s a political, fictional, account of health care with high tones of Anti-American spin. Whadda bunch of crap.

Kini on June 19, 2007 at 6:27 PM

oops, eye of a needle. sorry. need to get back to church….
wryteacher on June 19, 2007 at 6:25 PM

What’s worse is my mind transposed it and read ass of a camel … and had no problem with it.

naliaka on June 19, 2007 at 6:29 PM

What’re Moore’s gross earnings? (I almost said “tonnage”.)

Wouldn’t he qualify as “rich”? Even by his own standards.

I know for sure Jesus said:

It would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.”

So, according to Jesus- Go to Hell, Mike.

A fat, whited sepulchre.

profitsbeard on June 19, 2007 at 6:30 PM

Hi Mike! The bible also says if a person won’t work then he doesn’t get to eat.

Mojave Mark on June 19, 2007 at 6:17 PM

Bada-bing! Exactly!

DCJeff on June 19, 2007 at 6:34 PM

How does The View keep finding itself in possession of a pig that needs to be airlocked?

unamused on June 19, 2007 at 6:36 PM

What’s worse is my mind transposed it and read ass of a camel … and had no problem with it.

naliaka on June 19, 2007 at 6:29 PM

moore through the ass of a camel….that i would like to see!

wryteacher on June 19, 2007 at 6:37 PM

moore through the ass of a camel….that i would like to see!

wryteacher on June 19, 2007 at 6:37 PM

ROFLMAO

abinitioadinfinitum on June 19, 2007 at 6:46 PM

moore through the ass of a camel….that i would like to see!

Have you no concern for the sanctity of a camel’s ass?

JayHaw Phrenzie on June 19, 2007 at 6:48 PM

I think you mis-understood….

Jesus. Jesus Menendez Castro, he rolls cigars down in Cuba.
THAT Jesus (pronounced ‘heysoos’) wants us to change health care…

shooter on June 19, 2007 at 7:04 PM

Jesus has a sauna where Moore can loose a hella lot of weight…….In fact its a hella sauna…In fact its just plain hell…..Oh and the place is even called hell…imagine that truth in advertising…

doriangrey on June 19, 2007 at 7:08 PM

I just watched Sicko.

It started out pretty good showing how the Health Care Industry/HMO business is ripping people off and how politicians take pay offs to write the laws that allow them to screw people.

There is a montage of people that had procedures denied by the HMO’s and it quite emotional.

But from about 30 minutes on it is nothing more than a political propaganda film on Hillary Care and why we should have socialized medicine in the USA.

He blames all the health care problems on evil Republicans but does not point out that is was Teddy Kennedy that wrote the 1978 HMO act.

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why people think that the Government should be in the Health Care business. Democrats and Republicans alike are pushing for Socialized medicine.

Of course, neither party will ever amend the Constitution to allow the take over of Health Care by the Federal Government.

Do not waste your money on this movie, it is pure propaganda.

ScottyDog on June 19, 2007 at 7:17 PM

From the Michael Moore Translation of the Scriptures:

“Man does not live by bread alone. God forbid. Frequently there must be a super-sized Double Whopper Meal with a diet Coke.”

Drum on June 19, 2007 at 7:19 PM

What happened to my post?

AP, can you please post a list of banned words, I might have slipped one in and lost a good post.

None of my words were vulgar in the slightest.

Tim Burton on June 19, 2007 at 7:39 PM

Sorry I’m late here. I just threw up my dinner after watching this clip. . .and I haven’t eaten yet.

Puuhhhleeeezzzee, Michael. Christianized medicine?

Gottafang on June 19, 2007 at 7:52 PM

The following conversation was overheard in line at the coffee shop in Redmond, WA — home to Microsoft and many overpaid lefties (who often work for Microsoft) and is transcribed verbatim:

MAN: I just saw Sicko. You must see it.
WOMAN: Oh I want to! It looks wonderful.
MAN: It is! It made me ashamed to be an American.

And really, shouldn’t that be the primary goal of all filmmaking and the arts?

Download the movie and it will be a success
See it in the cinema and the movie will be a success
Give Moore publicity on TV, radio, and blogs and the movie will be a success
Success is guaranteed for this movie…

…you can’t ignore a train wreck, loudmouth propagandist, or any other gory spectacle.

Congrats. We’ve helped ensure this will be another success for Moore and the left.

ScottMcC on June 19, 2007 at 7:57 PM

As Walter Williams said, “Taking money out of your pocket for the poor is charity, taking money out of your neighbors pocket is theft, even if it is the government.”

Wil on June 19, 2007 at 7:57 PM

What does Allah tell Mr Moore to do ? Considering Moore and Osama have the same talking points I think Micheal should check into Islam.

BTW here is Osama himself repeating Micheal Moore’s talking points from Farenheit 911. You know you made the bid time Mike when a mass murderer agrees with you.

It never occurred to us that the Commander-in-Chief of the country would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats was more important”.

William Amos on June 19, 2007 at 8:01 PM

Jesus has a sauna where Moore can loose a hella lot of weight…….In fact its a hella sauna…In fact its just plain hell…..Oh and the place is even called hell…imagine that truth in advertising…

doriangrey on June 19, 2007 at 7:08 PM

Heheh

PRCalDude on June 19, 2007 at 8:05 PM

Why won’t my comment show? No profanity in it.

infidel4life on June 19, 2007 at 8:22 PM

Moore wouldn’t know Jesus if He smacked Mikey on the butt with a thorny crown.

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GT on June 19, 2007 at 8:45 PM

Reforming health care will be like securing the border. It won’t happen in the fashion that will benefit the average hard working American.

Millions of illegal aliens live here without coverage. Do they have coverage in their home countries? Next up are the poor communities where employers can’t afford to offer the “benefit” (ie privilege). If the government made them offer it it would force the employers out of business. Catch 22.

Regardless, no one goes without health care. Walk in/no pay patients are a daily affair. Their expenses are passed on to the rest of us.

Watching the welfare/no payers game the system makes me very afraid of how socialized medicine will “improve” things from my perspective.

I know the average American will be excited to pay $30 per case of beer to help offset “free health care” like Canadians have.

DWB on June 19, 2007 at 8:46 PM

I just wanted to mention that, for some reason it strikes me that wishing Michael Moore to hell, or, in some attempt at satire using (various personal versions of) Christ’s words to damn him, isn’t all that great a thing to do.

Just a thought.

nailinmyeye on June 19, 2007 at 8:48 PM

Biggest threat to healthcare in this county is OBESITY. Now, some folks who are overweight really can’t help it and find it really difficult to lose weight. Others, are just rich, holier than thou, liberal gluttons who take pride in their cheesey paniculus, while pointing out to the rest of us exactly how bad we are. Why doesn’t he tell the truth? It ain’t insurance or drug companies, it ain’t hospitals or doctors who crank up the healthcare costs, it’s the smoking, fat slobs who do. You’d think he’s set a better example.

bloggless on June 19, 2007 at 8:48 PM

WHO is Star Parker and how do we get her and Moore in a dark ally together? She 8itch slapped that idiot!

csdeven on June 19, 2007 at 9:40 PM

Now he’s some tonnage. And did you notice his emphasis on “feed”. What a porker – this talks about healthcare, incessantly? It’s like Gore and Edwards speaking on energy reduction, for the, from both mountaintop castles.

I felt sorry for Ms. Parker. The rest of the View gathering are just geese. All. Of. Them.

Entelechy on June 19, 2007 at 9:43 PM

Books by Star Parker. If you haven’t seen her on C-Span yet, you missed much.

Entelechy on June 19, 2007 at 9:48 PM

MAN: I just saw Sicko. You must see it.
WOMAN: Oh I want to! It looks wonderful.
MAN: It is! It made me ashamed to be an American.

Ha ha, that’s priceless!

Kensington on June 19, 2007 at 9:56 PM

Hey Michael… Pick up the phone. No, it’s not Jesus this time. It’s Rosie and she’s looking for new TPIR models. That’s right, she likes ‘em Big, Fat and Ugly, and she has her eyes on you!

CliffHanger on June 19, 2007 at 10:02 PM

I didn’t think it was possible for Moore to look even more unhealthier…

But he does, he looks very sick, aging poorly.

benrand on June 19, 2007 at 10:09 PM

Good job for trying Star. We couldn’t hear you trying to say what you wanted to over Barbara’s shushing, but your point of giving of yourself, not taking from your neighbor’s pocket was heard after a couple of hard listens. Isn’t Moore loaded now? Is he giving it all away? I know little about this tool but I assume he’s living just fine. Any knowledge on his charitable giving of his OWN money?

hollygolightly on June 19, 2007 at 10:11 PM

And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well… Mat 5:40

If I sue Michael Moore for $1,000,000, will he give me $5,000,000? He will if he wants to follow Jesus.

right2bright on June 19, 2007 at 10:38 PM

MIchael Moore is NOT my source for what Jesus wants

Chuck on June 19, 2007 at 10:41 PM

Barbara was outright nutty during that. The show was hyped with Star, a woman that had 4 abortions and got off welfare, debating Michael….She was presenting stats..why was there a need to kiss his arse ask a question?

As for his Catholic stance? Why isn’t the Catholic Church (my Church) helping these people? I have seen a greater push this past year within my area, by the Diocese, to nationalize medicine, ignore immigration laws, protest the war etc…And I keep asking where is the money going? Isn’t that their job to be stewards of our gifts and to provide for the weak?

Pam on June 19, 2007 at 10:55 PM

Reforming health care will be like securing the border. It won’t happen in the fashion that will benefit the average hard working American.

The first health care reform is to stop paying the emergency medical bills for people who shouldn’t even be in the country – and forcing the rest of us to pick up the bill through higher premiums. Only the most extreme cases should be covered for illegal aliens, and this would be paid for by a special assessment on anyone who has ever made a public case for “comprehensive immigration reform” or said the words “jobs Americans won’t do” with a straight face.

Coyote D. on June 19, 2007 at 11:04 PM

Jesus wants you to nationalize health care

Of course Jesus wants to nationalize health care. After the mess the senate and white house shove down our throats, his sister Maria and brother Juan need to get medical care that Americans don’t want.

jeffNWV on June 19, 2007 at 11:08 PM

And I keep asking where is the money going? – Pam

Respectfully, if they are not providing you with answers and you don’t like the direction your church is heading, maybe it’s time to find a new church.

I’ve been thinking about doing just that myself lately for similar reasons.

CliffHanger on June 19, 2007 at 11:22 PM

It’s a shame Rosie’s gay, really. They’d make a wonderful couple, wouldn’t they?

Blacklake on June 19, 2007 at 11:40 PM

War is peace, freedom is slavery, single-payer healthcare is free. The Ministry of Truth (politicians, MSM) is pushing the idea of the 45 million desperate uninsured but it’s actually more like 8 million, and they’re not desperate. Here’s a documentary on You Tube that breaks down the numbers and has some very enlightening interviews with some uninsured folks.

Blacklake – eewwww!!1!!eleventy!!!1!!!

Laura on June 20, 2007 at 12:33 AM

Any knowledge on his charitable giving of his OWN money?

hollygolightly on June 19, 2007 at 10:11 PM

The Bible says that at a minimumwe we are to tithe, giving 10% of our income back to the Lord. Anyone think that Mikey gives to the Lord? (Lib political causes don’t count.)

Mallard T. Drake on June 20, 2007 at 1:27 AM

How do you think the libs would react if Jim Baker, or Jerry Falwell, or James Dobson said, “Jesus says [insert social cause here].” Anyone think there will be anything close to the same reaction to Mikey’s statement. Don’t answer, it’s a rhetorical question………

Mallard T. Drake on June 20, 2007 at 1:29 AM

The king of propaganda now goes to church, and is a Catholic to boot.

He’s now invoking things that he might be better off avoiding.

Hening on June 20, 2007 at 7:54 AM

“God helps those who help themselves”….scripture can always be used to make any point. But hearing someone like Moore claim to be a religious person sends chills up my spine. This SOB has no shame.

lynnv on June 20, 2007 at 8:00 AM

If Mr. Moore feels so strongly about the high caliber of health care in Cuba, why did he not stay and allow them to perform liposuction, botox, and a lobotomy so he could be living (physically) proof of the high quality medical care available in Cuba?.

Probably started with the lobotomy and found it would not work, because the procedure requires a brain and liberals do not have a fully functioning brain.

Then they tried botox and realized it could only fill small folds.

While the liposuction was not practical, because Mr. Moore would need to live off of his own fat while in Cuba because the store shelves are empty.

MSGTAS on June 20, 2007 at 10:19 AM

How do you think the libs would react if Jim Baker, or Jerry Falwell, or James Dobson said, “Jesus says [insert social cause here].” Anyone think there will be anything close to the same reaction to Mikey’s statement. Don’t answer, it’s a rhetorical question………

They’d go into hysterics, fearful that someone was going to force them to take holy communion. The difference is that Baker, Falwell and Dobson would be speaking from their hearts about things in which they believe. When people like Moore wield Jesus, they’re only doing it to con the rubes. The libs know this, so they don’t pay it any mind; after all, it’s good if it cons the rubes.

Kensington on June 20, 2007 at 10:31 AM

Moore wants someone else to pay his medical costs in regards to his obesity.

sadatoni on June 20, 2007 at 11:33 AM

“God helps those who help themselves”….scripture can always be used to make any point. But hearing someone like Moore claim to be a religious person sends chills up my spine. This SOB has no shame.

While I do agree overall with your comment – Moore is certainly a hypocritical disgrace – “God helps those who helps themselves” is not a bible verse. There are actually many verses that express the complete opposite; that God helps those who ask, those who are weak, humble, etc.

Laura on June 20, 2007 at 11:33 AM

Laura on June 20, 2007 at 11:33 AM

I wrote out a nice long post about that saying pretty much the same thing and giving scripture to show exactly what you just said, but the filters seem to have gotten it…..

doriangrey on June 20, 2007 at 11:51 AM

Someone said earlier that no one should be denied health care because of money. I think for the most part people are NOT denied health care because of money. Case in point: Come to California and find out exactly WHY more than 70 emergency rooms and trauma centers have closed since 1990. It is the direct result of hospitals losing BILLIONS of dollars for treating uninsured patients. Second case in point: I worked as a paramedic in Los Angeles county for 5 years and I can’t tell you the number of times I transported uninsured patients who had cadillacs in the driveway and the latest 50 inch plasma television hanging on their wall. When do we start taking personal responsibility for ourselves and stop blaming everyone else for the stupid choices that we make?

calirighty on June 20, 2007 at 12:00 PM

As a Catholic Moore should read John Paull II’s social encyclical Centesimus Annus.

aengus on June 20, 2007 at 12:57 PM

Jesus would use the force of Government, backed by guns and jail sentences to force you to give money to a specific cause of his choosing against your will.

An intersting claim, but I don’t recall Jesus using excessive violence and threats to force people to do what he considered “good”.

Maybe I missed the chapter, in which Jesus decided that a Dictatorship with a controlled economy while forcing people into molds of his choosing and imprisoning those who opposed was the plan of the day.

Was that the Book of R. U. F. N. Kiddin?

On a philosophical note: If an act is coerced by force, is it still a good act by the person forced to participate?

It seems some believe it’s then a good act by the person who used force to coerce others, but I’m not exactly convinced it even qualifies as “good” from the coerced, much less the coercers.

gekkobear on June 20, 2007 at 1:47 PM

This pig made fun of Christians after the ’04 election having a map of the U.S. on his website with the red parts labeled, “Jesusland”. Anyone remember that? He may be so stupid that he can’t retain any information for that long, but I certainly remember it. Plus the U.S. DOES guarantee health care for everyone. We don’t put people on waiting lists when they have terminal cancer basically sentencing them to die. My husband’s grandmother (Canadian) was basically sentenced to death when their doctors told her she had a month to live. My father-in-law (ex Pat Canuck and former U.S. Marine) drove up to Canada, brought her down to the Mayo Clinic in MN where she was treated and lived for over 10 years. The reason Dummocrats and people like Michael Moore love socialized medicine is BECAUSE it will wind up exterminating the people they hate: the disabled, the elderly, the infirm and the poor.

foxforce91 on June 20, 2007 at 6:01 PM

Sorry – they diagnosed her with a month to live but couldn’t treat her for a year. Forgot to mention that part of the story.

foxforce91 on June 20, 2007 at 6:03 PM