Reid: We’ll work through the weekend to get this craptastic bill done
posted at 4:45 pm on June 18, 2007 by Allahpundit
Unlike with their commitment to the war on terror, they will not tire, they will not falter, and they will not fail to shove this steaming heap of amnesty garbage down America’s cakehole. Time is of the essence; those never-to-be-spent border enforcement funds aren’t just going to allocate themselves, you know.
Meanwhile, more good news: the crazies have decided to co-opt this issue for their own ends. And CNS, bless its dark little heart, seems more than willing to take them seriously. Coming soon to a Ron Paul or Tom Tancredo stump speech near you:
The debate over illegal immigration is a “diversion” to distract Americans from government efforts to enter into a North American Union with Canada and Mexico, in the view of activists protesting in Washington, D.C., on Friday.
“The illegal alien problem is a mechanism for leveraging what is yet to come,” Daneen Peterson, a researcher who studies the North American Union issue, said at the small rally, which drew about 40 protestors.
“Once the civil unrest and chaos caused by the overwhelming human tsunami of illegal aliens and MS-13 gang members reduces America to complete anarchy … the federal government will institute martial law,” Peterson said.
Peterson, a former university professor, predicted that martial law would then “allow the shadow government to step forward and visibly take over this country. They will use martial law to install a fascist One World Order, dictatorial government in plain sight instead of operating clandestinely as they do now.”
If the debate itself is the distraction, then some of the people on our side must be working covertly for the NAU, to keep it going if/when the smaller fry to lag. They’d have to be big names, though — high-profile, vocal, influential, with impeccable border-enforcement credentials so that they remain above suspicion.
But who–
Oh no. I knew she was too good to be true.
Update: If you’re stupid enough to believe in the North American Union then there is an obvious prime suspect here. You’re looking for someone who’s reliably lefty otherwise but claims to be fervently opposed to open borders. Heart-ache:
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Reid seems kind of cocky, for someone who looks like he might not live through the weekend.
NellE on June 18, 2007 at 4:53 PM
With this barrel of fish guts bill the hits just keep coming.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/PhyllisSchlafly/2007/06/18/its_official_americans_want_english
Speakup on June 18, 2007 at 4:54 PM
What? this is inhumane, unspeakable, a horror of untold magnitude, Abu Grahib, Gitmoe, torture chambers will they never cease…you cannot make our senators work the weekend, it is…is…is…like slavery.
Have you no mercy!!!
right2bright on June 18, 2007 at 4:56 PM
That means Friday afternoon is our last chance to voice our disgust to our senators before they vote for cloture on this POS over the weekend.
csdeven on June 18, 2007 at 5:10 PM
There was a thread on DU this morning where some liberal soul that had just purchased a $400k home was horrified to learn that HUD had bought 40% of his housing development for Section 8 housing. I bet an amendment allowing Z visas to be issued to undocumented Americans and valid only in districts whose representatives voted to support the amnesty would do wonders for its support.
rw on June 18, 2007 at 5:12 PM
As someone with both American and Canadian citizenship who’s currently back on the Canadian side of the border, I have to comment on the North American Union idea.
Canadians are already well aware we’re the mouse sleeping next to the American elephant and border almost on the point of paranoia about losing our sovereignty to America. I was a teenager during the NAFTA talks in the 1980′s and remember the hysteria about how America was going to take all of our lumber, water, oil, etc..
I’m not going to say a North American Union will never happen; I never imagined Western civilization could ever possibly fall to a 7th century death cult so what do I know. But the scenario under which Canadians VOLUNTARILY decide to give the North American Union a shot scares the heck out of me. Sadly, most people here would fight harder to avoid becoming Americans than we would Islamic.
Sad.
Canadian Infidel on June 18, 2007 at 5:12 PM
Who’s the second guy Allah? I’ll take a stab in the dark and guess the late nite conspiracy guy on the radio, George Noory.
Bad Candy on June 18, 2007 at 5:17 PM
“If you’re stupid enough to believe in the North American Union…….”
What are you taking a page from Bush’s playbook and bashing your constituency AP?
Every time you discuss this issue, the comments of your readers seem to break 3 out of 4 in favor of being concerned about a NAU.
However, You (and a couple of other visitors here) demagog the issue, slam any and everyone that doesn’t hold your view point and prohibit genuine discourse.
If you can’t treat the issue seriously and refrain from denigrating the other side, maybe you should have someone else write this issue.
America1st on June 18, 2007 at 5:21 PM
Because those among them who believe in this nonsense deserve to be bashed. Are you suggesting that if a bunch of our readers are Truthers I should treat Trutherism as sensible and respectable too?
If our opposition to the amnesty bill really were based on the things Bush and Chertoff and Linda Chavez believe it’s based on, they’d be right to bash us.
Allahpundit on June 18, 2007 at 5:28 PM
Allah’s right, this NAU stuff is insane and it should be mocked as such.
And I still wanna know who the guy in the second pic is…
Bad Candy on June 18, 2007 at 5:35 PM
Mickey Kaus!
Allahpundit on June 18, 2007 at 5:37 PM
That’s Kaus, huh?
I wondered who it was. Well, I have my answer. I woulda never guessed in a million years, thanks!
Bad Candy on June 18, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Canadian Infidel on June 18, 2007 at 5:12 PM
I like your comment CI, with a few items I’d like to comment on:
- Canadians feel like mice only because they wish to feel like that, but not because the U.S.A. elephant makes them feel so. The U.S. have no interest whatsoever to take over Canada, or Mexico, or anyone for that matter. Chavez and Castro’s takes on this, and the lefties’ don’t count.
- Western civilization hasn’t fallen yet to the 7th (or below) centuries’ primitivists. However, this is the hour of awakening for all the West! Unite and fight, or perish.
- An American Union (and I’m not a truther), if it ever were to be established, w/b in the semblance of the EU, where the rest of it didn’t become German or British, just because those two were/are the most economically powerful.
This, sadly, I fully believe. Though, again, there will never be such a comparison, as Canadians will never have to fear having to become American (in the sense of U.S. – they are already North-Americans :)
I’m more hopeful on Canada, as it’s swinging a little more in the right (as in right/wrong) direction. Cheers,
Entelechy on June 18, 2007 at 5:43 PM
C’mon, I think we should give this NAU stuff a fair hearing.
I mean, just think of the oil! Oh, the thought of GLORIOUS Canadian and Mexican oil powering my sporty Mazda down the freeways of New Wisconsinland at the nominal price of 1.5 Ameros per gallon…
Almost brings a tear to my eye.
Enrique on June 18, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Enrique, too late. The oil in the two neighbors’ countries is mostly all mortgaged already. Convincing the truthers otherwise, is another task.
Entelechy on June 18, 2007 at 5:48 PM
A sporty Mazda? Hell, with all that cheap, sweet, sweet petroleum we could revert back to a time when America could build cars that actually had some style. I’d love a big ol’ Packard or Cadillac. Niiice…
Bad Candy on June 18, 2007 at 5:49 PM
Harry Reid wants to work over the weekend to pass a bill. Wow, I didn’t know he was so concerned about America’s future. I’m touched by the dedication for our best interests.
I was thinking for a second that there just might be a shortage of cheap labor in Nevada.
Egfrow on June 18, 2007 at 5:51 PM
Senator Burr (R-NC) said the calls were running about 50:50 on the bill this time around. I guess a lot of people changed their minds from two weeks ago when it was 99:1 against. Later this week, contact your local senators via the Amnesty Hotline 800-417-7666.
Valiant on June 18, 2007 at 5:52 PM
Imagine, people so spoiled that they actually use the threat of having to work over the weekend as a battering ram.
How spoiled our leaders are. And we discuss NAU and other nonsense. Don’t you see the root of the problem, they live in a dynasty, they are the aristocracy of America. All but unlimited expenses, retirement beyond imagination, cater to and coddled, they protect and defend each other. Feinstein should be brought up on charges, instead all charges of mismanagement in the Republican party is hushed. For months we heard about all of the illegal happenings in Bush admin., then Feinstein caught with her hand in the cookie jar…and now, nothing about Bush and his illegal admin.
And now this, if you don’t work on this you have to work a weekend. How sad, how corrupt, how disheartening.
right2bright on June 18, 2007 at 6:00 PM
Why do I have a bad feeling that this bill is going through this time around?
Bad Candy on June 18, 2007 at 6:06 PM
I’m getting real tired of wasting my nickel on calling my senators, only to get an intern who is clearly not interested in what I have to say. I ask if they are getting a lot of calls against this bill and they tell me they are but it seems as if they don’t even have a list or count of the calls that are against this bill. I have received only (1) one response from my many e-mails. It was to advise me to view senator David Vitter’s website and stance on this bill. Both of my senators are against this bill, but I still make it clear too them how much I am for border security, and against amnesty!
I have the same bad feeling BC.
abinitioadinfinitum on June 18, 2007 at 6:10 PM
Extremely insane. Even a little more insane than thinking that we, a sovereign nation, would grant amnesty to 12 million criminals! Whew. Funny stuff. The only thing more insane would be, after 6 years of support, President Bush stabbing us in the back! A riot I tell you.
amerpundit on June 18, 2007 at 6:11 PM
OK… lets see…
I really don’t want to believe this NAU stuff either, BUT…
We are NOT controlling our own borders, even though we could EASILY.
We are NOT making law to penalize sanctuary cities…
We ARE about to make a bunch of Mexicans legal…
They ARE soon going to allow mexican shipping companies to use their trucks here (part of NAFTA)…
Tell me… just why are they doing all this? What is their GREAT PLAN?
Romeo13 on June 18, 2007 at 6:12 PM
You seem unable to grasp the distinction between the nuts you cited who think there is a grand conspiracy underway versus just being concererd the future is headed in the direction – no conspiracy needed.
Resolute on June 18, 2007 at 6:13 PM
Uh-Oh! Time for someone’s psych meds!
Dude, there’s a world of difference between Amnesty and NAU, and the word is competence. Amnesty, like most disastrous actions of the elite, are a function of mindnumbing incompetence. For a sneaky, clever plan like the NAU to be real, it would require the elite to show themselves as functionally competent, and as we can see, the elite of the US are anything but. They’re too stupid to pull anything like that off under people’s noses.
Bad Candy on June 18, 2007 at 6:19 PM
I was working this weekend too. I sent out numerous faxes and on each added a PS of “Start being a United States (Senator/President) and stop being a (Senator/President) of Mexico.
moonsbreath on June 18, 2007 at 6:20 PM
I guess I’m a nut too, because this makes perfect sense to moi.
moonsbreath on June 18, 2007 at 6:23 PM
The NAU nuts don’t deserve any serious consideration.
Jaibones on June 18, 2007 at 6:26 PM
Is it just me or is Harry Reid looking more and more like a shriveled up old penis every day
400lb Gorilla on June 18, 2007 at 6:40 PM
Peter Boyles on KHOW in Denver nailed it when he reminded us that in date rape no means no. And when 80% of Americans say no, no means no. This is STATE RAPE
400lb Gorilla on June 18, 2007 at 6:41 PM
Exactly
Valiant on June 18, 2007 at 6:49 PM
Why is it Dingy Harry will work SO HARD for this piece of @#%* bill but he won’t work just as hard for something that would actually be good for the country.
As a Nevadan I apologize for his existance and no I didn’t vote for him.
Mojave Mark on June 18, 2007 at 6:58 PM
Thank you Resolute.
Allah you are seriously pissing me off with what appears to be, at best, a deliberate obfuscation combined with hostility and insult.
Frankly being called a racist by my president and party is bad enough, I really don’t need to be called stupid by one of my favorite web news sources. Frankly, you remind me of Al Gore declaring that the debate over global warming is simply over.
The point (still unadressed by you) was and still is, that the majority of YOUR readers believe that all of the folowing add up to at least a de facto NAU. Despite serious discussion of all the below points by a majority of your readers, you continually declare the debate pointless and those desiring the discussion to be “stupid.”
Why don’t you shock everyone and do a serious treatment of the issue. Because frankly, right now, you have about as much credibility on this issue as Bush does.
-86 Amnesty
-Nafta
-Current Amnesty (with all it’s dreadful consequences)
-Security & Prosperity Partnership
-Cafta
* Bonus European Union: how it started and where it is headed now with Blair trying to ram through the unpopular proposals that were overwhelmingly opposed by the people.
America1st on June 18, 2007 at 7:29 PM
400lb Gorilla,
Why do you degrade the image of the falice like so? I can see the resemblance but it’s purely coincidental.
Egfrow on June 18, 2007 at 7:32 PM
Here is the Plan the Dems intend to execute in order to sneak in the amnesty bill. It’s the Clay Pigeon maneuver.
Egfrow on June 18, 2007 at 7:40 PM
America1st on June 18, 2007 at 7:29 PM
To quote Allahpundit f%ch you and the donkey you rode in on if you don’t like it go find another blog to hang out at……
doriangrey on June 18, 2007 at 8:19 PM
“f%ch you and the donkey you rode in on”
Are you kidding me dorian. That is your best contribution? I complain about the insults and the shabby treatment of a very large percentage of this blog and conservatives in general and you and AP both insult me. Nice.
America1st on June 18, 2007 at 8:38 PM
Isn’t the whole point of comments to post when you don’t agree? What is the use of a blog with hundreds of “yes men” as commentators. I don’t even bother posting in threads when I already agree with the sentiments in them.
Who knows what Allahpundit even really thinks because he obviously posts certain things just to generate traffic and comments and repeatly posts about the NAU yet ignores the distinction I made above every time.
Resolute on June 18, 2007 at 9:43 PM
Entelechy on June 18, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Thanks. Canadians have an inferiority complex. Those who are anti-American are partly because the United States could take us over, or at least make life very miserable with ease.
I don’t see an NAU ever happening without force and no reason why an NAU would ever even be proposed. We already have NAFTA which deals with trade between our three countries. Culturally, each country already knows as much about the other’s culture as they need or desire to know. And since our countries didn’t war amongst each other last century killing tens of millions, there’s no need for an NAU arrangement similar to the EU.
I am proposing open amnesty Canadian borders though to any Americans, legal Americans as of this date and not citizenship retroactively granted back to this date by any act of Congress, so that you can come, bring all of your possessions, knowledge and skills to Canada. We’ve taken conscientious objectors before.
Canadian Infidel on June 18, 2007 at 9:45 PM
Too late, Enrique, I already have a tear in my eye. From LMAO…
Jaibones on June 18, 2007 at 9:56 PM
Is having borders so porous that they are effecively ineffective not a de facto [forced] “union“?
Who is involved?
“North American” nations, -the U.S. ,Mexico and Canada.
Since Canadians are not flooding south, it is mainly a problem with Mexico, and all aliens who can get into Mexico to use their non-border as a means to infiltrate the U.S. [for whatever aims].
Whether it is considered a conscious move [by a sinister cabal] for a specifically named goal [NAU], the results are good enough to be the same.
It doesn’t have to be “official” to be just as deadly to the U.S.
Balkanization, ho!
Whatever name [or namelessness] it goes by.
Meanwhile:
BUILD THE WALL!
ENFORCE THE LAWS!
FIRE THE POLITICAL PIMPS!
profitsbeard on June 18, 2007 at 10:07 PM
Illegals immigrants doing jobs Americans won’t do:
Illegals using fire to clear border
The article goes on to say that in Coronado National Forest in Arizona firefighters have to escorted by armed law enforcement officers.
INC on June 18, 2007 at 10:52 PM
The North American Union is not a conspiracy theory. Allah and the North American Union deniers have it all wrong.
Dictionary.com defines a conspiracy as; “an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons.”
There is a conspiracy but it is no longer a theory.
If the NAU/SPP does not exist why does the Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007, S.1348, have a provision on page 211, for fast tracking the North American Union inserted in the bill?
“It is the sense of Congress that the United States and Mexico should accelerate the implementation of the Partnership for Prosperity to help generate economic growth and improve the standard of living in Mexico, which will lead to reduced migration,” the draft legislation states on page 211 on the version time-stamped May 18, 2007 11:58 p.m.”
John Hawklns, Michael Medved, and Allah are in denial when the facts are on the Internet for anyone to read. What is stupid is that these guys refuse to believe what is happening right in front of them and then attack anyone that has done their homework and understands that GWB is trying to do an end run around the Constitution to implement the NAU or SPP.
Dr. Jerome Corsi and Judicial Watch have used the FOIA to obtain the proof that the North American Union is being created in secret, behind closed doors and have posted the documents on the Internet for everyone to read.
There is no “conspiracy theory” here, whether about black helicopters or anything else. The evidence that supports the idea of a strategy aimed at ending U.S. sovereignty by creating a borderless world is in print, often by the authors of its own longstanding advocates, for those who can read plain English. Screaming “conspiracy theory” is nothing more than committing a strawman (an informal fallacy of basic logic).
Ridicule is the last resort of those who have lost the argument, as the skeptics clearly have.
ScottyDog on June 19, 2007 at 12:42 PM