South Carolina poll: Fred! 25, Rudy 21, Mitt 11; Update McCain’s, Kyl’s favorable ratings down
posted at 12:47 pm on June 17, 2007 by Allahpundit
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St. John, who won a straw poll in SC three months ago, limps along with 7 percent, the heavy weight of amnesty slung around his neck. Does this mean official McCain crony Lindsey Graham is vulnerable to a primary challenge? Dare to dream, fellow “bigots.”
It’d be easy to dismiss Fred’s lead as a case of southerners favoring the hometown boy. But if that’s true, what happened to Silky?
Obama led in the new poll with 34 percent of likely voters to 25 percent for Clinton. Edwards was third at 12 percent. Sen. Joe Biden was at 2 percent; so was former Vice President Al Gore, who has given no indication of running but whose name was volunteered by some voters. Twenty-four percent were undecided…
Earlier South Carolina polls have mostly shown Clinton with a lead over Obama and Edwards still in the hunt.
Edwards has been counting on a strong showing in South Carolina, but his outspoken opposition to the Iraq war and drift to the left on other issues may not be playing well with the state’s pro-military, generally conservative voters.
Interestingly, Obama has a huge lead among blacks in the state, even though he trails Hillary among black voters nationwide. It’d be a bad narrative for Clinton to lose the black vote there decisively lest a full-blown media Narrative about consciousness and empowerment arise. No doubt Billy Jeff is already penciling in extra campaign events. Meanwhile, here’s your quote of the day:
To Carol Bendick, 63, a Democrat who lives in Danville, Ill., Bush is too cozy with the oil industry, and she, too, wants a Democrat to succeed him. But she would support Giuliani over Clinton.
“Who wants four or eight more years of the Clintons’ marital disputes, paid for by the United States, we the people? I certainly don’t,” said Bendick, a teacher on disability.
Several men who prefer a Democrat for president, but not Clinton, said they were simply unwilling to support a woman.
Kevin Kidd, 45, a Democrat who owns a bar in Farwell, Mich., said a female president would make the United States “look a little wimpier.”
“Some countries have woman presidents, and I just think it makes them look weak,” he added.

Update: Surprise.
Arizona Senator John McCain is now viewed favorably by 48% of Americans. Rasmussen Reports polling this week found that he is viewed unfavorably by 45%. Those figures reflect a continuing downtrend for the Republican Presidential hopeful. In December, 59% had a favorable opinion. Two months ago, 55% offered a positive assessment and our previous poll found 51% of voters with a favorable view…
McCain is now viewed favorably by just 55% of Republicans.
Just 14% of American voters have a favorable opinion of Kyl while 36% have an Unfavorable opinion. In late May, before the debate on immigration rocked the Senate, Kyl was viewed favorably by 18% and unfavorably by 30%. The number with a Very Unfavorable view of Kyl has nearly doubled, from 7% at the end of May to 13% now. Kyl and McCain have both been very vocal in their support of the unpopular immigration bill that has been revived and is still working its way through the Senate.
One interesting note about Kyl’s numbers is that he doesn’t do any better within his own political party. Among Republicans, Kyl is viewed favorably by 14% and unfavorably by 38%.
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Agh! That face!
Coronagold on June 17, 2007 at 1:03 PM
The Fred! bandwagon is going to tip over. Just wait.
Halley on June 17, 2007 at 1:09 PM
I like Thompson and agree with him politically. However, unfortunately, only 1 of 2 people will be the next President-Rudy is he is nominated and Hillary if anybody but Rudy is nominated.
I don’t want to see a Queenly Coronation led by Katie Kouric and Rosie O’Donnell and a backdoor re-entrance by the Great Stainmaker–again turning the White House into the Red Light House.
MaiDee on June 17, 2007 at 1:22 PM
I feel the cold steel of the “Anyone But Hillary” gun barrel at my temple, and Fred! isn’t doing a whole lot to compel me to resist it.
Kid from Brooklyn on June 17, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Democrats: the party of misogyny.
Seriously, though…there are plenty of reasons to not support Clinton. Why limit yourself to the one that makes you look like an ass AND generates sympathy for her?
James on June 17, 2007 at 1:27 PM
The bandwagon hasn’t even started yet.
That’s why Fred is waiting to announce in the normal Presidential time frame. He may even wait until after the next Republican debate to let the field thin. Better for Fred to not be part of the herd and go against Mitt (who we know can’t win the nomination), McCain (who’s campaign is dying a slow death), and Rudy “I’m okay with Roe, gonna identify every illegal alien with my new powers” Giuliani. Frdd current popularity is confined to Republican primary voters for the most part. The middle won’t be ready to pay attention to Presidential politics until the fall as usual, they have movies to go to, weddings to plan and barbeques to attend.
The middle has already formed a large part of their decisions on all the candidates except Fred. You”l see the bandwagon come October/November and a finale in February. Fred is getting the nomination.
Theworldisnotenough on June 17, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Allahpundit that has been a certainty for quite awhile now. Linsey loses the primary in a landslide. His loss of support may be so great he cannot enter the primary. It’s the same reason Hagel, who was towing the amnesty line in 2006 is laying low. Hagel’s face on TV supporting amnesty would end his reelection bid before it begins.
Theworldisnotenough on June 17, 2007 at 1:37 PM
Fred!
unamused on June 17, 2007 at 1:40 PM
Southerners love Fred Thompson and Germans love David Hasselhoff!
frankj on June 17, 2007 at 2:07 PM
I don’t think it has anything to do with him being a southern boy, but rather everything to do with him speaking clearly and articulating a view of the world that I’d think most conservatives would agree with.
SillyRyno on June 17, 2007 at 2:07 PM
I think people are sick of these career politicians who make a lot of promises and then don’t do jack except help out their buddies once they get in power. It’s easy to see Rudy or Mitt following in the same path, but Fred doesn’t fit that category, and I think that is a huge advantage for him.
WisCon on June 17, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Agreed. Imagine a politian who is not a power addict.
I’m phor phabulous phlegmatic Phred!
Mojave Mark on June 17, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Yes, exactly. I’m so sick of these career politicians like my senator Trent Lott.
SillyRyno on June 17, 2007 at 2:26 PM
Say “Goodnight John.”
rick moran on June 17, 2007 at 2:30 PM
What does it say for the poll, when a few months ago it had McCain leading significantly? It means it’s too early to tell. Polls now are about as trustworthy as any psychic you can go to, in determining who’s going to win.
I’d be more interested in a state such as Florida or California. Florida carries 27 electoral votes, and is split pretty evenly politically.
amerpundit on June 17, 2007 at 2:39 PM
Vote for boys!
I support Fred!, but to be honest, I think guiliani is the best ticket to a republican in the white house in 08.
Not that it matters anymore, both parties are bending us over and givin’ it to us.
lorien1973 on June 17, 2007 at 2:42 PM
Who -doesn’t- love the hoff!
http://www.waxhoff.com !
lorien1973 on June 17, 2007 at 2:43 PM
Romney has not been on capitial hill and Beacon hill was filled with his political enemies. Allahpundit, what we need is a Romnet pic, much like the Sir Tancredo pic, that shows him battling the moonbats in Boston.
Resolute on June 17, 2007 at 2:53 PM
yep, that amnesty is just a huge millstone around McCain’s neck.
PRCalDude on June 17, 2007 at 2:59 PM
John McCain just seems SOOOOOO old and tired.
SillyRyno on June 17, 2007 at 3:31 PM
As we learned in last November’s election, averaged polls are amazingly predictive.
Here’s an average of the current Republican Presidential candidates.
Maybe not as exciting as the poll of the moment, but perhaps more useful.
via Engram’s Back Talk.
brewt on June 17, 2007 at 3:40 PM
ABH.
Anyone But Hillary.
(Except another Democrat, unless Truman can be cloned.)
profitsbeard on June 17, 2007 at 4:04 PM
Between the amnesty, the age, and the Ted Kennedy lovefest, McCain is toast. Fred!’s appeal lies in his common sense approach to most subjects, his TV & movie personas’ and his uncanny ability to have not said anything really stupid .
RUN FRED! RUN!!!!
commonsensehoosier on June 17, 2007 at 5:11 PM
South Carolinians need to draft someone to run against Mr. Grahamnesty pronto! Strike while the iron is hot. He’s counting on Americans’ very short memories to get him through this!
SouthernGent on June 17, 2007 at 5:41 PM
IMHO F.Thompsom needs to be scrutinized much more closely. His stance on all the right issues are good but does Freddie work and play well with others. Ideas are great but a President needs the nessecary mechanisms in place to implement them. Where Rudy and Mitt fall short in the Social Con arena Thompson is virtually untested in a leadership role. Sure electability is a huge factor as well as the character of the man we send to Washington. I think there is ample time to look at all the candidates including the ’second tier’. A rush to judgment could prove erroneous.
sonnyspats1 on June 17, 2007 at 5:46 PM
At least the dems can see that Hillary will make the US look weak. HA! Hopefully she’ll get the nomination so she can lose in a landslide to either Rudy or Mitt!.
csdeven on June 17, 2007 at 6:35 PM
Yeah, you got that right. I can’t believe these people vote for a guy because of some TV show he was on. The minute that fake opens his pie hole, his numbers will fall faster than McCain’s have. That’ll leave the battle between Rudy and Mitt!. That is a win/win for the republican party. Either guy has the class and experience to be qualified as POTUS. Of all the candidates freddie boy is the least qualified. It’s too bad this isn’t a TV show, fred? would be the best actor for the role.
csdeven on June 17, 2007 at 6:41 PM
I agree with that, but freds? problem, besides his weak record and having no executive experience, he was an arm twisting lobbyist for 20+ years. Once we find out if he was working for or against the American public, we can vet him out, or move on to his other problems. Sadly, once everyones exposed for their weaknesses, fred? will have to bow out having no qualifications for the office.
csdeven on June 17, 2007 at 6:46 PM
55% view McCain favorably? The pollster must have offered a bribe. I don’t know of a single Republican that can stand this disasterous ego-maniac.
pat on June 17, 2007 at 7:17 PM
Ok, one more time, and try listening for once. He was a lobbyist for 18 years, not 20+. He lobbied in behalf of the gas and electric power industries which were under extreme regulations submitted by Johnson and increased by Nixon. He was working to have those and other unconstitutional legislation regarding those industries repealed or reversed. I’d say that favors “the people”, but even if you disagree, it was in favor of the correct level of governmental power, and in opposition to abuses of same.
But of course, the mere facts won’t slow down your tired, fact-free, and nauseously repetitive diatribes, so have at it. Hopefully the rest of the people will do the same research for themselves that others of us WHO DON’T CARE THAT HE’S AN ACTOR have done, and use that as a basis for preferring him over the REAL FAKES who have led the polls until recently.
Gotta go, church time.
Freelancer on June 17, 2007 at 8:10 PM
Has csdeven forgotten again? Fred was a Senator… why do you deliberately skip the relevant portion of his resume?
Either you’re immune to information, or you consistently lie yto make Fred look bad? Which is it?
gekkobear on June 17, 2007 at 8:59 PM
I plan on voting for Mr. Thompson and I have never seen “Law and Order”.
Rose on June 17, 2007 at 9:05 PM
I read on another site that Mr. Romney wants to increase the military by 100,000. An admirable goal but will he be able to do that without a draft?
Rose on June 17, 2007 at 9:07 PM
fred? was a lobbyist after his senate “career”. I accidentally found this while trying to find out some positive stuff on fred?.
A foreign agent?
I’m not sure what this all means but clearly, fred? was lobbying well after his senate “career” and it’s also clear that the folksy persona he is trying to manufacture is a lie. freddie boy is the epitome of a Washington insider.
csdeven on June 17, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Since when does being a senator afford any executive experience?
I don’t have to lie to make fred? look bad. His lying does that all on it’s own.
csdeven on June 17, 2007 at 10:18 PM
According to the Washington Post….Thompson knew the ropes, having done lobbying work since the 1970s. Before he was elected to the Senate, his lobbying clients included Westinghouse Electric, U.S. Cablesystems, the Teamsters Central States Pension Fund and the American Business Coalition. His opponent for the Senate in 1994, Rep. Jim Cooper (D-Tenn.), labeled Thompson a “Gucci-wearing, Lincoln-driving, Perrier-drinking, Grey Poupon-spreading millionaire Washington special-interest lobbyist” but was still clobbered by the Republican.Now these are some serious charges……
sonnyspats1 on June 17, 2007 at 10:47 PM
Name the lie or lies. Empty accusations are tiring.
Freelancer on June 17, 2007 at 10:58 PM
See para 2 under Comments in the site Terms of Use.
Bye-Bye
News2Use on June 17, 2007 at 11:14 PM
When fred? says he always been with the pro-lifers…..LIE. In 1994 he was pro-choice.
When fred? acts like an outsider when he is clearly a Washington insider…..LIE.
When fred? pretends he is a reg’lar Joe by renting a pickup truck, just so his staff can drive it away from rally’s etc…..LIE.
csdeven on June 18, 2007 at 12:02 AM
Why aren’t you jumping up and down about the dem candidates lack of executive experience? Or McCain’s? It’s not just that your arguements are lame; they’re not even spread consistently among the other turd sandwich candidates. This constant drumbeat of bashing on Thompson makes you sound like a jilted groupie he kicked off his campaign bus for being too familiar with his wife.
austinnelly on June 18, 2007 at 12:21 AM
I still think that, in a debate, Fred can make Shrillery pee her pants on stage.
lynnv on June 18, 2007 at 7:45 AM
First, I don’t care about the dems. 2nd, only Rudy, Mitt!, and fred? are saying the right things. Since fred? has the least experience and he refuses to get in the pool, he gets the brunt of my criticism. The minute he decides to be a real candidate, I’ll respect him as a real candidate.
Surely, you can understand how my conservative values demand him to show some respect to those who might support him.
csdeven on June 18, 2007 at 7:56 AM
That may be, but how will he fare against the republican front runners? I’d bet McCain would be a real challenge for fred? because McCain knows him so well.
csdeven on June 18, 2007 at 8:00 AM
People are heavily arm chair quarterbacking an event that has not happened yet. When Fred is on the campaign full and on a debate then I’ll listen to some the ghost pundits. Until then people have to make up their own damn minds. Too many opinions one way or the other about nothing.
Egfrow on June 18, 2007 at 10:17 AM
Fred’s greatest advantage is that he at least knows how to act and look “presidential”. Something the other GOP and Dems candidates are having serious problems with. Something that has been sorely lacking in the executive office since Reagan.
Going to be really interesting how this all plays out.
Lawrence on June 18, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Ok, I have a solution to csdiarrhea-mouth..
Fred! vs. csd in a debate!
IfWhen Fred! wins….csd agrees to shut his pie-hole.If csd wins…..Fred! runs for senator of SC instead of POTUS.
Anyone want to watch that one?
omnipotent on June 18, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Sorry, I wouldn’t lower myself to give a chick$hit non-candidate the credibility of treating him like he was an actual candidate. And if he ever actually grows a pair of balls, he’s gonna have his hands full trying to defend his piss poor record to the American people via actual debates with real live candidates.
csdeven on June 18, 2007 at 1:30 PM
I haven’t seen that from the guy. In the Leno and Hoover interviews he did very poorly. When Hannity was leading fred? to the “right” answers I wasn’t impressed either. The video with him hiding behind his wife and kids looked so obviously contrived in feelings and sincerity. All that is left are his articles and speeches, in which he says all the right stuff, but those are all pre-scripted.
As far as looking presidential, Mitt! looks much more presidential than any of the candidates. That may work for some people, but I don’t really care. fred? could be bald and wear bad suits and I wouldn’t hold that against him. ;-)
csdeven on June 18, 2007 at 1:37 PM
I didn’t think so!
omnipotent on June 18, 2007 at 2:21 PM
You don’t have to worry about it, fred? is too busy hiding behind his wife and kids to actually take on anybody in a debate.
csdeven on June 18, 2007 at 2:37 PM
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