The report says that Israel is preparing to strike at Hamas in Gaza IF rocket attacks and/or suicide bombings resume. It looks like there may be another Summer War, but not with Lebanon this time. If the report is true,…

I agree that when Iran nukes Israel, it will use Hezbollah or another proxy to do its dirty work. Unfortunately, Bush has, by his own silence, effectively taken military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities off the table.

The best way we could help protect Israel would be to take two steps. Step one, sell them one of our top-of-the-line nuclear missile subs. That way, even if Israel is wiped out, Iran, et al, will know that retaliation will still be complete and immediate. The second step is to declare that a nuclear attack against Israel will be considered an attack against the US, and that we will respond in kind, even if a proxy is used. In other words, any nuclear attack against Israel, no matter where it originated, would result in the elimination of Iran.

As far as the Palestinians go, I don’t see what else can be done right now except sit back and let them pay their own butcher’s bill. Bombing them into oblivion is politically impossible, and the costs of re-occupying Gaza would be far too high. Sun Tzu was right: when your enemies are busy committing suicide, one should be polite enough not to interrupt them.

Now Israel is flourishing, a bread basket for Europe, and the Muslim controlled land continues to lie in desolation.

As we all know here it’s just a matter of time till the nukes start flying. It will be hard for the Israelis to bomb the Muslims back to the stone age as they’re already living in the stone age. I guess this is an arguement for using dirty nukes with a ground burst so you deny territory to the enemy for decades.

One problem – Hamas won. Fatah won’t be doing very much killing of anyone in Gaza anytime soon. So the fantasy bloodbath that cures all needs to be rethought. As for things collapsing – they already have, hence the appellation of Mogadishu on the Med.

The leader of the “faction” of Fatah to which they object is Mohammed Dahlan, now-former head of the Preventive Security Force, who targeted various Hamas members for assassination during the low-grade stage of the civil war this past year. Interviewed tonight on al-Arabiya, Dahlan naturally blamed Israel for Fatah’s collapse.

Why do anything? Let the anti-Israel and anti-America Hamas barbarians and the anti-Israel and anti-America Fatah barbarians kill each other off. Does anyone still believe these primitive Muslim barbarians are capable of a democratic state that will live in peace with Israel?

Iran has a foothold next to Israel. And with a port and a contiguous border with Israel.

Think about it.

At some point, it is inevitable that Israel crosses the Rubicon and uses nuclear weapons. I do not say this lightly or without a heavy heart.

For ALL the reasons you cite, Gaza will never be a “happy satrap” of Fatah.

And no matter what we would like, there will NEVER be a “two state” solution to the “Palestinian problem.” The jihadis do not want it and will not tolerate it. Period.

When Iran develops nuclear weapons, they will use them against Israel and the United States. Possible Europe as well. No doubt they’ll use a “front man” like Hezbollah, Hamas, or Al Qaeda But they will strike if allowed. But before that happens, I think that Israel will strike first.

The IDF simply isn’t big enough to simultaneously fight Hamas, Fatah, and Hezbollah (and Iran) and avoid another intifada even through the use of sheer, brutal, force.

The only endgame that guarantees the survival of Israel is to utterly destroy the Palestinians, Iran, and Iran’s surrogates, and the only way they have to insure that the job is done right is to use their nuclear weapons.

Israel’s targets may also include Syria and Saudi Arabia, but will certainly include southern Lebanon, the West Bank, and Gaza. Jordan and Egypt may become second tier targets.

God help the world when that happens because the uproar will upset the Islamic world and probably precipitate the next world war, including the participation of NUCLEAR Pakistan and India.

While the tipping point has not quite been reached, the dominoes have almost all be lined up ready for the first one to topple.

The jihadists will get their martyrdom. The world will see billions dead, and entire swaths of the planet made uninhabitable for decades, if not centuries.

Democracy” at work in the Middle East.

I hope Bush, Rice, and their followers get the idea, finally.

Democracy is meaningless if the demos is nuts.

One man, one vote, one time.

Then the executions start.

ditto

Think about the Califate gene pool. Anybody with a brain was killed off generations ago and anybody with actual bravery was killed soon after. Just like America is the best of the cowboys who came over here, Islamobadistan is the worst of what’s left of humanity after generations of murder and mayhem.

Mojave Mark on June 17, 2007 at 2:11 AM

encore ditto

You guys keep it up, and I won’t need to say a single words.

Didn’t that Old Dead Chinese Military Guy say something to the effect that when you enemies are busy destroying themselves, have the patience not to interrupt them?

And only stop when such diseased regimes are destroyed.

profitsbeard on June 17, 2007 at 12:26 AM

Think about the Califate gene pool. Anybody with a brain was killed off generations ago and anybody with actual bravery was killed soon after. Just like America is the best of the cowboys who came over here, Islamobadistan is the worst of what’s left of humanity after generations of murder and mayhem.

I’m tired of this crap. Damn tired.

That is indeed the question and I suspect the answer is probably no, not only will Israel probably not have to national will but it will probably bow to international pressure even if it should find the national will to do so.

Not a chance, Hamas is far to stupid and crazy to understand what they have done. It has only been because of Fatah’s claims that they are willing to negotiate with Israel that Israel hasn’t launched massive military actions against the Palestinians.

Hamas can no longer hide behind Fatah or the Palestinian civilians while launching attacks against Israel. Because they are the de facto elected government in Gaza the civilians in Gaza are now the citizens of a government that will shortly discover that any attack on Israel is an act of war. To which Israel will respond by declaring war in return.

I doubt there is any serious question that this is precisely the reason that Abbas was so quick to disband the Fatah Hamas unity government. His actions were undoubtedly designed specifically to ensure that the Fatah government in the West Bank could not and would not be held accountable for the actions of the Hamas government in Gaza.

In other words Abbas wanted to make damn sure that when, not if, Israel declared war on the Hamas government in Gaza that they did not also declare war on the Fatah government in the West Bank.

Nope, can’t see anything wrong with shipping more arms to Fatah while the UN “protects” the northern front. No problems there.

The problem is that the idiots in Hamas are just plain stupid and crazy. They are not going to wait for Fred to be elected, they are going to do something really really stupid and it wont be very long before they do.

In typical Muslim fashion they will attempt to divert the Palestinians attention away from the disaster of their own creating and the suffering caused by their vicious repressive religion by launch multiple attacks on Israel.

Now with Gaza being exclusively under the control of Hamas any attack coming out of Gaza, be it suicide bomber, small arms fire, or Kazan rocket attacks without Fatah there to provide plausible deny ability will be recognized by Israel as an act of war and Israel will undoubtedly respond with massive military force.

I hope Bush, Rice, and their followers get the idea, finally.

Democracy is meaningless if the demos is nuts.

One man, one vote, one time.

Then the executions start.

And only stop when such diseased regimes are destroyed.