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We’re being quite literal on this point: The premiere of a work by the leading composer Sir John Taverner in Westminster Cathedral next week has provoked discord because it glorifies the Muslim deity Allah. Traditionalist Roman Catholics are planning …

99. death
98. desolation
97. destruction…

- The Cat

But this isn’t really progressive, because this ideology has been around a long time.

I argued that once about “boundry pushers.” It seemed like some people pushing boundries, ‘progressives,’ were pushing boundries back about three thousand years or so.

From the text:

He said that it was a musical performance rather than a “liturgical act of worship”.

So maybe the “musical performance” should be presented in some sort of building created for that purpose.

I thought u had posted AP’s pic in a cathedral!

AlexB on June 15, 2007 at 11:22 AM

Bait and switch!

So, they had it in for the Catholics since, then came Charles in Charge.

profitsbeard on June 15, 2007 at 12:27 PM

Good quest.

The answer to this questions is no.

Key points: “nominal Christian” and “their own religion”

Most nominal Christians are Christian in name only, and whatever religion they create for themselves is indeed their own singular religion.

This is the progressive view of many people who want to be viewed on the outside as Christian, but on the inside they don’t really want to adhere to the tennets of faith. But this isn’t really progressive, because this ideology has been around a long time.

Did I miss anyone? Me tinks Charles has a huka pipe in his super secret room in Buckingham palace, but what he’s smoking nobody knows, or do dey?

In keeping with its status as a late, minor gnostic heresy.

Don’t any of these nominal Christians know anything about their own religion, much less Islam?

I would prefer to hear an oratorio on The 9 Million Names of Rama.

(It would keep these obvious airheads occupied longer and doing less damage, as well.)

Just for some background, most of the great cathedrals of Europe can hold tens of thousands of worshippers at once, yet most are largely empty on Sunday. As their parishioners leave the faith, the governments have stepped in to support the cathedrals as historical places and turned them into museums.

Now, the Muslim population is rising through immigration and hyper-reproduction and will probably be a majority in Europe within the next century. France will go Muslim within fifty years. When Muslims form a majority in a European government, what do you think the chances are that those old museum/cathedrals will become state mosques? It’s inevitable.

If you think I’m kidding about Westminster Mosque, think again.

Benny needs to step up.

This never would have happened in Benny Hill’s England.

Traditionalist Roman Catholics are planning to converge on the cathedral on Tuesday evening to protest over the work, which includes the singing of the 99 names of Allah.

This is not specifically a Roman Catholic issue. This issue affects any Christian claiming lineage to the original Apostolic Church. The Apostolic Church is very clear in defining God, as affirmed by Jesus Christ Himself, and this is distinctly different than Allah as defined by Mohammed 600 years later.

What this really represents, to all of Christendom, is the interjection of idolatry into otherwise Christian worship. There is absolutely no way to reconcile this issue within Christendom unless we give up our definition of Allah as a pagan idol, which is exactly what these people are doing when identifying Allah as just another name for the same God that Christians worship. Likewise for Muslims who view any form of Christianity as apostate. Anyone trying to reconcile these definitions will find themselves theological adversaries of both orthodox Christians and fundamentalist Muslims.

Also, keep in mind that the word catholic is Latin, derived from Greek, meaning general and/or universal, and translates into English as the word Christian. Anyone in Western Culture who claims to be Christian is also claiming to be catholic in the general sense. And the greater Catholic Church, as in Apostolic Church, is anyone who considers themselves part of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. This includes Roman Catholics, Anglicans, and most orthodox Protestants, etc.

I find it absolutely astounding that Christian leaders do not feel an obligation to do the slightest research before accepting Islamic apologist’s word about Allah.

The COE is focused on issues like homosexual liberation, pandering to social celebs like Bono (U2charist) and basically stripping Scripture from its culture. I’m sure a religion that stands for “something” appeals to people that belong to a Church that stands for nothing.

Those should start being removed sometime soon in order not to complete the victory of Islam over Britain.

Sorry, I was so nerved up that should read “Those should start being removed sometime soon in order not to offend The Religion of Peace and complete the victory of Islam over Britain.”

Even a cursory review reveals that “Allah” resides in hell (“to toucher infidels). Perhaps he is the devil. At very least he does not sound like Abraham’s God, nor the God of Christ.

The more we placate these barbarians, the more certain this will devolve from a war within Islam into a war with Islam.

Liberal Britain is turning their houses of worship to Christ over to Islam rather than making the poor bomb blasting savages have to fight for them.

IRA take note, the Catholic Church be damned but UK prostates itself to Islam.

Also – at least in western Europe, the subtle infusion of arabic sounds in pop music has been going on for a few years now. Not enough to dominate, but enough to raise an eyebrow now and then.

Some of this creep of Islam is so small and should be insignificant, but instead it feels insidious and quite deliberate.

Rumors have surrounded Prince Charles chummy relationship with Islam, with many suggesting that he has already converted.

Let’s hope that’s true. Under the Acts of Union 1707 which united England and Scotland into the United Kingdom, the monarch must be a Protestant Christian. So if he’s converted to Islam, the weasel won’t be able to ascend to the throne, one of his sons would go in his place (assuming they haven’t converted by then, either, of course).