Most American politicians are afraid they won’t be considered serious candidates until they’ve made a promise a hundred times and spent a hundred million dollars.

Then he shamelessly presents himself as above the fray. We in the US know he’s just a coward and isn’t getting away with it here, but the Brits don’t know that so it’s safe for fred? to lie to them.

Though every now and then you still get some slow-poke who takes his time before announcing.

C’mon freddie boy, grow a pair and start debating. The BS you’ve spewed a thousand times doesn’t mean anything and people could take you seriously if you would just announce a date that you will announce.

So you’re blaming 9/11 on the conservatives that didn’t vote for Bush 41?
Sydney Carton on June 15, 2007 at 12:45 AM
YES.

csdeven on June 15, 2007 at 12:47 AM

How absurd…you and Rosie…ridiculous truthers…

seejanemom on June 16, 2007 at 7:21 PM

Now see men see Phred’s wife and think… RRRRrrrrrllllll. My wife is 6 years younger than me and that’s as far back as I would care to go.

Definitely an asset for Phreddy boy. IMHO.

I think fred? is a pathetic faker, but I don’t know that I’d believe he would collect a wife and kids just to get a shot at being a non-candidate for POTUS. He isn’t THAT bad.

PLEASE don’t use the phrase “juicy meat” in the same sentence with the word “Fred!”.

Your humble servant,
Jane

And just another 17 months until the actual election ….

Professor Blather on June 15, 2007 at 1:21 AM

Imagine, Fred and Jeri could have another baby by then.

Entelechy on June 15, 2007 at 1:24 AM

PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE don’t make e imagine THAT.

I just ate.

And I might want to eat again.

SOMEDAY.

I am ALL about Fred?

But I am SO NOT ALL ABOUT BEING REMINDED OF HIS INFINITE VIRILITY.

I hafta say it>>> Every time I see that purdy young jail bait wife of his, I cannot get excited about his “family friendliness”.

AAAaaaaaaaLL I can think about is him having a trophy wife that MATHEMATICALLY COULD MAKE HIM HIS OWN FATHER IN LAW.

Skeeves me out, Fred.

Hide the wife. Believe it or NOT , she NOT an asset.

SORRY.

RushBaby on June 16, 2007 at 12:30 PM

Thanks for the intelligent debate.

Have a nice one yourself.

Peace and cheers!

CS

fred? will have to be held accountable or praised for his actions.

An open-minded remark if I have ever heard one. I hope you have a wonderful weekend.

Best regards,

What politician is above stage dressing? Bill Clinton’s “stones on the beach” incident was absolutely blatant fakery. Look at Hillary Clinton and John Kerry with their botoxed visages. Blech.

I agree. But those are dems and I expect that from them. Conservative values don’t include faking out your supporters.

“Groupies” is a term I use for my lovable fred?heads. Even they must admit, and do at times, that their support of fred? is based on very little except emotion. Somewhat like the supporters rock stars have.

I don’t know that freds? manager is disloyal. As a matter of fact I’d bet fred? surrounds himself with people who call it “gimmicky and hokey” but don’t realize it really means fakery to real people. He was quoted and there are many accounts from fred? himself that he leased the truck just to change his image. On top of that we have the eyewitness account that can be easily vetted by speaking with Ms. Cottle. Again, he thinks it’s acceptable, but as a conservative, I am not amused.

I will take your word on the S&L fiasco. I agree that as we speak, investigations into exactly who benefited from freds? lobbying activities over 20+ years will be exposed and fred? will have to be held accountable or praised for his actions.

Her friend is obviously a credible account and I have no reason to doubt it. What do you think of freds? manager calling it a fakery?

I dunno. It’s anecdotal. I can picture the scene in my mind, so it’s certainly possible, but to call it credible, there would have to be more than one witness. And even if the incident went down exactly as Ms. Cottle described, so what? What politician is above stage dressing? Bill Clinton’s “stones on the beach” incident was absolutely blatant fakery. Look at Hillary Clinton and John Kerry with their botoxed visages. Blech.

You assume lefties are influencing my thinking. It was what I noticed about freds? disingenuous behavior that led me to research his history. It doesn’t matter to me if the person is left or right as long as the info can be verified. Do you disregard truth because you don’t like the persons politics who reported it? I am able to vet fact from opinion and I do not have to accept someones writings as all or nothing.

You are entitled to be skeptical of Fred based on your own observations and by whatever sources you read. I strongly suspect the motives of lefties due to their demonstrable lies and deceit. If info can be verified, I do not disregard it. But I DO have reasons to doubt sources from the left. An unidentified “friend’s” accusation of a vehicle switch and a snark from a disloyal manager, do not hint, much less prove, a pattern of fakery whatsoever. If it sparked skepticism in your mind, and that’s fine, but I have trouble squaring alert skepticism with the passion with which you take after Fred, not to mention labeling people in this community with an odious term such as “Fred? Groupies”.

I’m not sure what to make of his clients, but it’s clear that he was working for foreign interests at one point and he was involved in the S&L fiasco. And earlier today I read somewhere that fred? worked for a client who was limiting their responsibilities in payouts to citizens who were wronged. If this is true, and these clients he worked for turn out to be working against the regular joe american, it’ll just be more evidence of what I have been seeing from him since the gitty-up.

Perhaps the fredheads can research this and let the group know just what bills etc he was working on and if these efforts were for the good of the american public or if they mostly benefited fred? and his client?

There is no doubt in my mind that the research is already underway – on both sides, and before the primaries, we will all be highly enlightened about Fred’s clients, the purpose of his lobbying efforts, and the lobbying industry itself. It will be interesting to see what tangents the research will take. I’ll bet there will be plenty of scandals unearthed, and others revisited.

For example, the S&L fiasco. Fred’s involvement, according to the article, was pushing for deregulation – which desperately needed to be done. That had nothing to do with the fiasco, which came later. That fiasco was caused by interest rates skyrocketing, and the thrifts were stuck with low-yielding portfolios (the assets were yielding less than the cost of funds). The real scandal was actually John McCain’s, as part of the Keating 5.

csd, just wondering, but are you all frothy at the mouth after you post about Fred?

Buzzy on June 16, 2007 at 2:55 AM

I don’t think he is “frothy”.

In csdeven’s world Fred! is the alpha dog and csdeven hates that since he is only a pack animal.

As a result csdeven attempts to assert himself against the alpha dog in an attempt to become the alpha dog.

I see the same behavior with my friends Labs.

Buzzy on June 16, 2007 at 2:55 AM

No. Never. But I am always in stitches, laughing my a$$ off on the floor after seeing another one of freds? lame transparent attempts to re-invent himself. AGAIN. Jeeze! The guy has no shame and certainly no respect for those whom he wants support from.

RushBaby on June 15, 2007 at 6:47 PM

Her friend is obviously a credible account and I have no reason to doubt it. What do you think of freds? manager calling it a fakery?

You assume lefties are influencing my thinking. It was what I noticed about freds? disingenuous behavior that led me to research his history. It doesn’t matter to me if the person is left or right as long as the info can be verified. Do you disregard truth because you don’t like the persons politics who reported it? I am able to vet fact from opinion and I do not have to accept someones writings as all or nothing.

I’m not sure what to make of his clients, but it’s clear that he was working for foreign interests at one point and he was involved in the S&L fiasco. And earlier today I read somewhere that fred? worked for a client who was limiting their responsibilities in payouts to citizens who were wronged. If this is true, and these clients he worked for turn out to be working against the regular joe american, it’ll just be more evidence of what I have been seeing from him since the gitty-up.

Perhaps the fredheads can research this and let the group know just what bills etc he was working on and if these efforts were for the good of the american public or if they mostly benefited fred? and his client?

As you said, the pickup truck/sedan switch incident is reported secondhand by the author’s “friend”, and is NOT an eyewitness account.

Oh – and this article includes some information about his lobbying clients as well.

Thompson represented some pretty serious clients, including Westinghouse, General Electric, and the Teamsters pension fund. And he lobbied for some pretty influential legislation: As representative for the Tennessee Savings and Loan League, Thompson pushed for Senate passage of the Depository Institutions Amendments of 1982…this deregulation bill provided for additional government support of ailing S&Ls; increased thrifts’ freedom to invest in potentially more profitable, but riskier, ventures; and eliminated interest-rate ceilings on new accounts to increase S&Ls’ competitiveness. Passed in September 1982, the Senate bill became part of the Garnet. St. Germain Act. widely credited with having laid the groundwork for the S&L collapse of the late ’80s.

Beginning in 1991, Thompson extended his lobbying expertise to foreign entities. Working for the D.C. firm Arent Fox Kitner Plotkin & Kahn, Thompson was registered as a foreign agent representing clients including a German mining group and Japan’s Toyota Motor Corp.

Michelle Cottle c/v:
Editor of The Washington Monthly for two years. She also worked for the Tom Peters Group, editing its monthly newsletter; served as an editorial fellow at Mother Jones magazine, and has done freelance writing, editing, and commentary for CNN, The New York Times, Time, Slate, The Atlantic and George magazine, among others. Cottle is a regular panelist for the PBS political affairs show, “Tucker Carlson Unfiltered.”

csdeven, you are letting lefties influence your thinking about our candidates. They’ve got to love it when you repeat their talking points on a conservative blog.

The New Republic…I used to subscribe when it was left-leaning but hawkish and pro-Israel under Martin Peretz. Then TNR was sold and the publication lurched to far left.

Trivia: Peretz is now an Advisory Committee Member in the Libby Legal Defense Trust.

RushBaby on June 15, 2007 at 4:23 PM

If you follow the link about the frind who saw fred? driving away in the fancy car, there is an article written about fred? from 1998. The freddies will probably like it.