Open thread: Michelle vs Geraldo on The Factor Update: Video added
posted at 8:32 pm on June 14, 2007 by Bryan
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The boss squared off against Geraldo Rivera on The O’Reilly Factor’s opening two segments tonight, on polar opposite sides of the illegal immigration question. Video is on the way–I’m editing it now. But I thought I’d toss up an open thread to let the HA regulars discuss it.
Update: A couple of points while the video file processes and uploads. One, Geraldo is only right about illegals committing crime at the same rate or less than legals, if you discount immigration law. If you keep immigration law in the equation, and you should, all illegal immigrants are by definition criminals — they have committed at least one crime, and they continue to commit that crime every day that they stay here illegally. So they would rack up quite a record of law-breaking, if we merely enforced the laws that are on the books. Two, Geraldo likes to play up twin angles that are mutually contradictory. On the one hand, he wants compassion for illegals. On the other hand, he argues that they’re a net plus by paying Social Security taxes that they’ll never get back, and that will go to citizens and legal residents. Well, is it compassionate to rake off billions in taxes from illegals, knowing that they’ll never see that money again? That sounds an awful lot like legalized theft to me.
Update: I’m also struck that Geraldo mentioned “population transfer” a couple of times, insinuating that pro-enforcment folks like us just want to bus all the illegals out and that when we say we want the law enforced, that’s really code for advocating a massive “population transfer.” Yet he kept mentioning the figure of 12,000,000 illegals being here, mostly from Mexico. Well, that’s about 9 percent of Mexico’s entire population, that’s here illegally right now. And that number is growing every day. So there is already a “population transfer” underway, and it’s coming north out of Mexico into the US.
Update: Ok, here’s the video. Note that the screenshot features both Michelle and Geraldo smiling. That’s not a Photoshop. It’s just a frame taken before the debate got underway. Note also that the debate has been edited for brevity.
Now, because I had to edit it, I ended up leaving out one of Geraldo’s most ridiculous statements. Thankfully Gateway Pundit caught it and posted it himself: Geraldo says that illegal immigration is the new gay marriage. I told you it was ridiculous.
Update: Last thoughts on this, from me anyway. It’s rare to see the difference between conservatives and liberals on such obvious display like it was in this debate. Geraldo resorted to emotional arguments throughout, and cited statistics without ever noting the source of those stats, and many of his stats aren’t even right. And he had to ignore some obvious things — such as the inherent criminality of illegal immigrants — to get anywhere near making a substantive point. Instead of making real points, he just kept ranting about “Pablo” and injecting race into the debate, and then accusing Michelle of injecting race when she clearly hadn’t.
Michelle cited facts and stats principles and rejected Geraldo’s race-based pandering and innuendo. Geraldo often seemed at a loss for arguments, resorting to sighing or filibustering. Hopefully without sounding too much like a kiss-up, I’d score this one an easy win for the boss. Geraldo needs to hit the books if he wants to sound like he knows what he’s talking about on immigration. Here’s a suggestion for him.
Just as an aside, a long time ago I used to respect Geraldo Rivera quite a bit. He was the first reporter to really make much of an impression on me, way back when he was on 20/20 working alongside the Contras in Nicaragua. But that Geraldo went on to become a daytime trashy talk show host before becoming the demagogue he is now. It’s a shame. The old Geraldo was darn near heroic at times. The new one…he’s just a bad spokesman for a racialist view of immigration policy.
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Michelle FTW!
JayHaw Phrenzie on June 14, 2007 at 8:34 PM
I was hoping to live blog but this is good. Michelle SPANKED Geraldo. She is classy, smart, spot on, factual, and accurate. Geraldo is a……………………
dunce.
She put him in the corner.
CrimsonFisted on June 14, 2007 at 8:38 PM
It must be hard to argue with Geraldo because you can’t help but get totally pissed off at the idiot. Ms. Michelle did well to not call him what we all know he is. However, when he said that the illegals had a lower crime rate than the general public, I bet he wasn’t counting the identity theft, forged documents such as social security cards and driver’s licenses, and other crimes that are generally ignored by the open borders folks. Bill O. needs a microphone cut-off switch so that there will be no interruptions when the other person has the floor. Even when he wasn’t on the split screen you could see Geraldo rolling his eyes. What a jerk.
DAT60A3 on June 14, 2007 at 8:40 PM
Dems didn’t have any problem kicking that little cuban kid out
tomas on June 14, 2007 at 8:40 PM
Michelle kicked his ass!
Hey Geraldo, how’s it feel to get your butt handed to ya by 100 pound girl? HAHA
Geraldo, you’re a race pimp. This issue is about people illegally jumping over the border and you try to spin it into a race issue “Why don’t we police the Canadian border and capture those spesky Swedes?” What a dumbass.
Tony737 on June 14, 2007 at 8:40 PM
OK, let’s be fair about this. The fact that Michelle was obviously smarter, more articulate, less biased, better informed and a whole lot cuter than Geraldo doesn’t necessarily mean that she won the debate.
RedWinged Blackbird on June 14, 2007 at 8:40 PM
Geraldo debates in the same style that my 8 year old daughter uses when she asks for more ice cream. Did this man get his law degree through an ad in the back of Rolling Stone?
Michelle was good. But facts and logic don’t seem to be killing this monster.
SailorDave on June 14, 2007 at 8:42 PM
O’Reilly missed a good chance to stop Jerry Rivers’ spin. Jerry was quoting polls and surveys stating lower than average crime rates due to illegals, etc.
Bill (or Michelle) should have had him identify the sources of his data. I imagine he would have had great difficulty doing that.
It’s all about racism for Geraldo. After all, he’s the ultimate authority on racism.
BacaDog on June 14, 2007 at 8:43 PM
Anyone else notice that while Michelle was crushing Gerlado, He was groaning and making faces like Al Gore in the 2000 Presidential debates.
Sad.
JayHaw Phrenzie on June 14, 2007 at 8:46 PM
RedWinged Blackbird-
You forgot more dignified, posessing of a better sense of humor, less pretentious, and able to chew a fool and spit him out at the same time.
Tony737-
FYI- A passel of Pesky Swedes were seen smuggling a smorgasbord across the Maine line just last night… and immediately issued a demand for willowy blondes.
profitsbeard on June 14, 2007 at 8:47 PM
Geraldo got pwned tonight. For him it’s about the poor put-upon hispanics fleeing a worthless country. For Michelle and, dare I say, the rest of us regulars here it’s about the rule of law and national security.
I don’t care what race or creed these people represent. I can shake the hands of many MANY people who have come from far worse countries and did so legally…WILLINGLY LEAVING FAMILY BEHIND and scrounging money together so they can get their families here LEGALLY. It just makes me want to beotch slap the race baiters.
Pilgrim on June 14, 2007 at 8:47 PM
Michelle’s game face rocks. If I was facing her in a debate, I’d slowly back away in fear.
She shot daggers, Geraldo groaned. Who would have expected less.
Privatestock on June 14, 2007 at 8:50 PM
How is it possible that illegals have a lower crime rate than the public when they make up about 25% of the prison population and only what, 4-5% of the general population?
V15J on June 14, 2007 at 8:50 PM
I sent this email to O’reilly:
Geraldo kept repeating that illegal aliens commit crimes at rates the same or lower than US citizens. I would like to point out that “illegal” aliens commit crimes at the rate of 100%. Otherwise, they woudn’t be “illegal”. Michelle was eloquent and right as usual. Geraldo is cut from the same cloth as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, a race-baiting hypocrite through and through.
RobertCSampson on June 14, 2007 at 8:51 PM
Michelle was good, Geraldo was emotional, and laughable. Geraldo was all wet with his facts, I live in an area where illegals abound and every night, every night, it the the crime du jour by illegals. Rape, murder robbery, it never stops.
Taxes, don’t make me laugh. I know enough of the local contractors and builders to know full well it’s an all cash business. Only the ringleaders pay taxes. Others cruise the neighborhoods in pickups looking for work, cash only — We still have a lot of hurricane damage around these parts so workers are needed.
The car wash shots were classic, when I was a kid the American kids did those jobs, same with lawn work, now if you can hire an illegal for $3 an hour to soap cars or cut grass for the day, what kid is going to work for that.
tarpon on June 14, 2007 at 8:51 PM
ha ha ha, Geraldo is a pussy!
Ropera on June 14, 2007 at 8:52 PM
Geraldo and his ilk keep throwing red herrings out. It’s obvious they know they are on the wrong side of the American people. Who can say for American politicians!
SouthernGent on June 14, 2007 at 8:53 PM
How is it possible that illegals have a lower crime rate when every single one is a criminal?
RedWinged Blackbird on June 14, 2007 at 8:54 PM
Michelle, doin’ the job our Commander in Chief won’t do!
Ropera on June 14, 2007 at 8:54 PM
Bill was smart to put it in the first segments. If he had stalled it, he would have needed that extra police presence he was touting.
Señor Rivera just can’t. stop. whining.
eeyore on June 14, 2007 at 8:54 PM
No Contest; Michelle wins in a unanimous decision. Succinct vs. the Verbose. Big time smack down. No rematch scheduled or needed.
Zorro on June 14, 2007 at 8:57 PM
Michelle did an EXCELLENT job debating Geraldo. I am glad that you demonstrated anger, finger pointing, and a refusal to be interrupted by Geraldo or by Bill.
She demonstrated that Geraldo is the racebater. As we have seen in the past, Geraldo PROUDLY stood in support of the illegal alien marchers a few months ago, is constantly mentioning that this is an anti-latino thing, uses propaganda like separating families, etc.
Geraldo again makes references to pulling down Jews pants to check for circumcision as a form of persecution and a type of terrorism. Well, Geraldo, I think that American ICE is more humane in dealing with illegal aliens than other countries. WHAT ABOUT MEXICO’S TREATMENT OF ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO CROSS THEIR SOUTHERN BORDER. GERALDO, REMEMBER WHEN THAT MEXICAN BORDER COP SHOT THAT GUATAMALAN BECAUSE HE DID NOT LOOK LIKE A MEXICAN? WHY IS THAT OK???
America did not lure illegals here. The illegals are here because they are escaping third world countries that have fourth world corruption, dictators, and poor conditions that their governments DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE. Why does not Geraldo comment on that?
Geraldo is clearly a member of the border anarchistic, reconquistador, La Raza crowd.
Yes, I noticed that, JayHaw. He thought that would shut Michelle up and make her look bad. Obviously, Geraldo has never tangled with Michelle, and it looks like he will think twice before he does so in the future.
Once again, Michelle, great job in VERBALLY squeezing Geraldo’s cajones.
The False Dervish on June 14, 2007 at 8:59 PM
hahahahahhahahah EXCELLENT!!!!!
CrimsonFisted on June 14, 2007 at 9:00 PM
Thanks for a horrible mental picture. I’m gonna go throw up now.
BacaDog on June 14, 2007 at 9:01 PM
Sorry but your sadly lacking in facts.
I doubt Geraldo has any Cajones. Maybe some frijolis
William Amos on June 14, 2007 at 9:03 PM
Well sorry,I think Michelle lost that round. I mean after all,Geraldo DID use the race card(an automatic trump) and sighed HEAVILY at many points. Not to mention that even though the boss looked gorgeous, Geraldos’ mane was impeccable!! Remeber people, FEELING over facts!!!
/snark
By the way? I have serious doubts as to his crime statistics…In fact,I’ve heard just the opposite. Can anyone enlighten me?
Blitz on June 14, 2007 at 9:08 PM
With a woman as opinionated, precise, and firey as Michelle, why does nobody ever ask Bryan how he deals?
Somehow I don’t think Bryan lets himself get on her bad side too often.
unamused on June 14, 2007 at 9:08 PM
Michelle pummeled the punchdrunk Mountain Rivera; O’Reilly should’ve called it after the first segment. Michelle delivered devastating body blows in Round 2, Rivera unable to continue.
Rivera never looked more overmatched.
Hang it up, fatboy. A young lady some 30 years your junior just kicked your ass all over national television.
JammieWearingFool on June 14, 2007 at 9:12 PM
Sorry, BacaDog. My bad!
Hmmm….never though of that, William.
The False Dervish on June 14, 2007 at 9:13 PM
BTW-
HEY, GERALDO…
HOW COME ILLEGAL ALIEN GANGS LIKE MS-13 GO AROUND COMMITTING CRIMES AND TERRORIZING PEOPLE….AND YOU DO NOT EQUATE THEM WITH TERRORISM OR ILLEGAL ALIENS COMMITTING CRIME (AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU DON’T).
HOW COME?????
The False Dervish on June 14, 2007 at 9:24 PM
I’ll repeat this from the hijacked thread on Dingy Reid calling Pace & Patraeus incompetent.
Using the term “criminal illegal alien” is redundant. They’re already ciminals if they are here illegally.
Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented worker” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”
Until such time as we can get an accurate count of how many illegals there are here, there is no way to enforce any immigration reform legislation.
rightside on June 14, 2007 at 9:25 PM
Herramienta Geraldo gets handed a 6 pack of whoop-ass from Michelle.
Wade on June 14, 2007 at 9:26 PM
I caught the segment. Geraldo is totally in bed with the open-borders crowd. By the way, a better screen cap for this thread would be the one with Michelle staring up and to the left as Geraldo was speaking. Priceless!
thedecider on June 14, 2007 at 9:31 PM
I also enjoyed how Geraldo didn’t like the point Michelle brought up about the 9/11 highjackers who were here illegally, and how 3,000 lives could have been saved if even the current immigration laws had been enforced – a point Geraldo could not offer a defense for.
thedecider on June 14, 2007 at 9:37 PM
Michelle mopped up the floor with Geraldo, while still looking beautiful and intelligent at the same time (Which is suspect is not difficult for her to do). Geraldo’s facts are a lil off the mark too. I hope that Bill corrects that in a later episode.
I declare that the bout was won by Michele by TKO in the first round.
We Love you Michelle!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Scorched_Earth on June 14, 2007 at 9:42 PM
Time to deport Geraldo, and I don’t give a damn if he is a US citizen….
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 9:47 PM
Raaaaacist.
PRCalDude on June 14, 2007 at 9:55 PM
Wait a minute Bryan:
TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2007 at 9:59 PM
Rivera’s point about the current laws being a fialure so we need new ones. Yes, they have been a failure, because the Fed and the locals have chosen to ignore them, and that’s the point. If they are so anxious to ignore the old ones, what makes you think they will not ignore the new ones?
P. James Moriarty on June 14, 2007 at 10:03 PM
Article. IV. Sec. 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion.
rslancer14 on June 14, 2007 at 10:09 PM
PRCalDude on June 14, 2007 at 9:55 PM
Yea right…whatever…just as long as we deport that a$$hole Geraldo……..
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 10:14 PM
Oh, I was just being jummy.
PRCalDude on June 14, 2007 at 10:16 PM
PRCalDude on June 14, 2007 at 10:16 PM
I know, but just the same lets deport that a$$hole Geraldo……..
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 10:18 PM
Damn, missed it at 8:00 cuz I was out of town, but I’ll catch it at 11 during the rerun. I figured Michelle would eviscerate Geraldo, and from the comments and Allah’s post, I was right. This is the last issue anyone should try and step to Malkin on.
No you weren’t, you didn’t use all small letters interspersed with bits in all cap with false and rabid accusations of racism and believing the NAU conspiracy crap.
Bad Candy on June 14, 2007 at 10:25 PM
Geraldo didnt like the WTC comment—-too bad. well i have a theory about the relationship of terrorist and the liberal left. THE TERRORIST ARE A DEN OF RATTLESNAKES AT THE EDGE OF YOUR PROPERTY. YOU CAN DEAL WITH THEM THEIR OR WAIT FOR THEM TO GET IN YOUR BASEMENT. THE LIBERAL LEFT ARE LIKE THE FAMILY GOLDEN RETRIEVER. HE STAYS IN YOUR HOUSE, YOU LET HIM PLAY WITH YOUR CHILDREN: BUT SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG. HE HAS RABIES. NOW WHICH IS MORE DANGEROUS.
bootheel on June 14, 2007 at 10:26 PM
Geraldo is a Grade-A schmuck, but at least he has the frijoles to face the hard questions from Michelle and, to a lesser extent, Bill. (Face them, yes, answer them without bloviating and dissembling, not so much).
Most of the crazies on the other side of the fence wouldn’t have the courage to even do that much.
Mindcrime on June 14, 2007 at 10:36 PM
Racism, schmacism. If it be racism, make the most of it. Geraldo’s nothing but a one-note Sambo.
Jewel on June 14, 2007 at 10:40 PM
Would it be wrong of me to ask if Geraldo’s getting his “Statistical data” from the same place he learned about Al Capone’s secret treasure vault?
Jones Zemkophill on June 14, 2007 at 10:46 PM
Jones Zemkophill on June 14, 2007 at 10:46 PM
Heh heh heh probably…
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 10:50 PM
Geraldo contention that we “lure” these people with jobs and promises ignores the fact that they come here because there is no future in their own countries. I lived in Mexico for several years and witnessed the reasons we are being flooded. Until that changes It will be very difficult to stem the tide.
Geraldo was clearly beaten by the lovely Michelle. I think metro-sexuals should avoid Michelle…..
jimwesty on June 14, 2007 at 10:52 PM
I actually thought they both did a good job of debating. Shelley gets mad and sputters a bit, but dang! is she a dolly! And she has the upper hand at all times, since she is right on the facts and the morality of the issue.
But, you almost have to admit, from the position where Jerry sits — wrong on all the facts and the history — he does a pretty good job of blustering.
Jaibones on June 14, 2007 at 10:54 PM
Jaibones on June 14, 2007 at 10:54 PM
Don’t forget all the treasure he found in Al Capone’s secret treasure vault.
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 10:59 PM
Not that I give a crap one way or the other, but Geraldo’s mother was Jewish and his father Puerto Rican—and Puerto Ricans are US citizens. He did change his name, from Gerald Riviera (not Gerry Rivers) to make it more Hispanic, and he has prostituted himself for every Hispanic cause he ever tripped over. I believe he even served as legal counsel for the Young Lords, a violent NYC gang that unfortunately I was all too familiar with.
He’s a phoney. Likes to portray himself as one of the oppressed Latinos that he likes to schmooze in front of the camera with–but how many of them have a law degree or went to Columbia University?
It was great seeing Michelle wipe the floor with this idiot–again!
IrishEi on June 14, 2007 at 11:00 PM
Again repeat after me Geraldo. NOT ALL IMMIGRANTS ARE HISPANIC !
Stop playing the Martyr race card. You dont look good as a fat overgrown Pinata
William Amos on June 14, 2007 at 11:03 PM
For a really devastating report on illegal alien crime that blows Geraldo’s figures out of the water, check out this article by Heather MacDonald from a couple of years ago.
Rudy fans should take special note of this paragraph:
IrishEi on June 14, 2007 at 11:07 PM
Yes, illegals were lured here…like the bank robber was lured to the bank…
EnochCain on June 14, 2007 at 11:08 PM
Allah, you oughta ’shop a pic of Geraldo with a “NO SNITCHING” T-Shirt.
Bad Candy on June 14, 2007 at 11:09 PM
The distinction between Mexican in particular and Hispanic in general is one that the race pimps like Geraldo refuse to make. This immigration bill has almost no relationship to Hispanics as a group, or to any other race. It’s about Mexicans. Geraldo and others may be trying to lump Hispanics together, but Peurto Ricans, Venezuelans, Dominicans, Cubans and others do not experience this bizarre symbiosis that Mexicans do with the American labor market. They are also not here for the same reasons. Many Hispanics not from Mexico are actually here to become American and flee their oppressive regimes back home.
This has nothing to do with being “compassionate” about race. If that were actually at issue we wouldn’t be discussing 12 million Mexicans who “deserve the American dream”… we would be talking about 30 million Africans and 100 million Asians.
Lehosh on June 14, 2007 at 11:09 PM
Jerry Rivers is important in his OWN mind. Period. He is on FOX so they can claim “fair and balanced”. He should be ignored as so much hot air…sorry HA..I mean..dirigible air!
labwrs on June 14, 2007 at 11:09 PM
Excellent for Michelle. Keep pounding common sense into these debates.
Geraldo uses “lured” – an inflammatory term. Lured evokes innocents wadering off to check out the witch’s candy house. But the truth is, Mexicans incredibly seem to prefer higher paid US jobs than low paid Mexican work. Sounds like America treats Mexicans fairer and more justly than Mexico does. So, Geraldo, go criticize the scuzzy wage problems of Mexico. All the activists should go to Mexico and demand better treatment for the underclass there … but it’s not about calling Mexico to be better governed, but all about wrecking the USA.
Isn’t Geraldo using the Gay rights tactic of ratcheting Gay demands up to the level of genuine civil rights of African-Americans by invoking the pograms against the Jews as comparable to Mexican immigration?
FOUL! Jews were full-born citizens of their own countries, subjected to humiliation, confiscation of property and expulsion to parts elsewhere. The Holocaust added methodically efficient genocide of lawful, born, citizens to the mix.
Geraldo is using hysterical, factually wrong and dishonest techniques to advocate lawbreaking and excusing of lawbreaking. He favors Hispanics over all other ethnic groups, AFrican, Asian, Oriental, European. Does he feel the same about immigration for European Hispanics from Spain? Bet not.
Why does this terrible man get airtime? He’s like a loose cannon, all over the place, all the time. He spouts Left talking points, not facts. Horrible.
naliaka on June 14, 2007 at 11:11 PM
I agree with you; but it’s all brown to Geraldo.
IrishEi on June 14, 2007 at 11:12 PM
Oh the humanity…
I still vote for Geraldo ’shopped into a STOP SNITCHING! Shirt.
Bad Candy on June 14, 2007 at 11:12 PM
Bad Candy on June 14, 2007 at 11:12 PM
I still vote that we deport the b@st@rd…
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 11:15 PM
Rudy gets an F on the issue of the day.
Jaibones on June 14, 2007 at 11:19 PM
Fine idea, but check the post’s byline once in a while, kemosabe.
Bryan on June 14, 2007 at 11:21 PM
From the very first time you break the law, all of the money and personal property that comes from that illegal enterprise is ‘ill gotten gains’ and either belongs to the people it was stolen from or the government.
If illegal aliens loose taxes and social security payments not only is that only a portion of the ill gotten gains they’ve accumulated but doesn’t even come close to paying back the amount of tax supported services illegal residents use.
Saying we’re responsible for luring illegal aliens to America is like saying that if you own a TV that you deserve to have it stolen and the thief is not at fault.
Also it really doesn’t matter if the person who broke in and stole the TV is so wonderful as to be made of gold!
The thief still broke the law, you and your space has still been invaded and violated (if you’ve ever been broken into you know what I mean) and your TV is still gone and law enforcement isn’t likely to get it back and the thief won’t be caught either.
Hard working, decent or any other quality means less than nothing because the result is the same we’ve all been violated by invasion and theft of our treasure and our sovereign space.
Speakup on June 14, 2007 at 11:21 PM
Sorry Bryan, I usually think of Allah as the P-Shopper, which is why I said his name specifically.
Bad Candy on June 14, 2007 at 11:23 PM
Bryan on June 14, 2007 at 11:21 PM
Dont be a hater, it’s still a good idea…
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 11:25 PM
Damn, Bryan, why you always gotta be kickin’ me around? You know, last time you responded to me, you kicked me around for trying to help on a spelling mistake.
Bad Candy on June 14, 2007 at 11:25 PM
Geraldo’s argument is based on emotion, bogus statistics, and misdirection of the real issues. Michelle’s argument is based on reality, facts, and common sense.
Meanwhile, O’Reilly whines about how hard his job is, and Fox continues to employ Geraldo and hype Paris Hilton.
I’m thinking a Hot Air TV channel would be most excellent and blow Fox out of the water.
infidel4life on June 14, 2007 at 11:25 PM
Just messin’ with ya, BC.
Bryan on June 14, 2007 at 11:28 PM
Nah, I know Bryan! :P
Bad Candy on June 14, 2007 at 11:29 PM
BootHeel! How dare you insult the Golden Retriever like that?!
Tony737 on June 14, 2007 at 11:29 PM
I appreciate the symmetry HotAir tries to arrange in their programming; today’s being men’s testicles being ripped off their body.
AllahPundit knowing Michelle would be debating Geraldo tonight started the ‘Open Threads: Headlines 6/14′ with an article about a woman ripping out a man’s testicle.
We finish off tonight with Michelle debating Geraldo and taking out whatever he had left. That was beautiful. The morning meetings must be fun. Especially with the musical interludes.
You did even better than usual today. Have a well-deserved good night.
Canadian Infidel on June 14, 2007 at 11:42 PM
Great job Michelle! Excellent talking points.
This segment should be renamed Geraldo exposed!
Watching him groan and get shut down by Bill for trying to loudmouth his way through was the most fun I’ve had all day.
Speakup on June 14, 2007 at 11:48 PM
I forget nothing that this twit has done.
Jaibones on June 14, 2007 at 11:56 PM
I don’t get why Michelle didn’t jump all over Geraldo with facts when he said illegal aliens have an equal or less effect of the crime rate as American Citizens.
Drtuddle on June 14, 2007 at 11:58 PM
Its an issue of limited time, dude. You gotta pick’n'choose what you’ll confront. The segment would have to be a week long at least if Michelle were to try and refute every bit of garbage that escaped Geraldo’s lips.
Bad Candy on June 15, 2007 at 12:02 AM
Michelle told Geraldo he was ‘projecting’ his racism onto her. Good job! Geraldo makes me yell at the tv.
Kevin M on June 15, 2007 at 12:04 AM
That’s ok, AP. We all have to brown-nose from time to time.
Hope it’s working for you.
BacaDog on June 15, 2007 at 12:05 AM
Then why even have Debates?
Drtuddle on June 15, 2007 at 12:18 AM
Geraldo was pwn3d like the little 8itch he is.
csdeven on June 15, 2007 at 12:18 AM
Jaibones on June 14, 2007 at 11:56 PM
You owe an awful lot of twits an apology for comparing them to Geraldo…That was just plain mean…
doriangrey on June 15, 2007 at 12:23 AM
Strange he didn’t whine about Lennon
Ropera on June 15, 2007 at 12:26 AM
Someone might have gotten to him and clued him in–if Lennon had been deported, he’d probably still be alive.
Bryan on June 15, 2007 at 12:29 AM
“La Raza, La Raza, La Raza. La Raza.” One track pony. “I hate white men unless they bow to me, the women are hot” Thank you Geraldo.
pat on June 15, 2007 at 12:32 AM
Jerry Rivers loses again.
V15J on June 15, 2007 at 12:35 AM
It gives Michelle a chance to shamelessly plug her book. :P
No, look, just because you can’t go in depth doesn’t mean its worthless. There was good there, Michelle stomped Geraldo, and that gets people worked up or interested in the issue, and given that the facts are on our side…
Bad Candy on June 15, 2007 at 12:35 AM
And I’m just teasing about the book plug Michelle! :P
I’ve grown attached to the :P emoticon for some reason. I used to be militantly opposed to allowing myself to use emoticons ever. Heh.
Bad Candy on June 15, 2007 at 12:37 AM
Lotta people with trouble reading the bylines, Bryan.
Patterico on June 15, 2007 at 12:38 AM
Imagine there’s no Geraldo, it’s easy if you try…
infidel4life on June 15, 2007 at 12:48 AM
Dammit! My turn to brown-nose Bryan. Great thread! Love the nuance! Michelle would be just a 2nd rate blogger without you!
That enough?
BacaDog on June 15, 2007 at 12:50 AM
Two words sums up MM attack: Game Face
One word sums up G(J)R whining: Loser
Jerry was just as foolish as he always is. My nephew called me right after and reminded me he was in the unit that Jerry was with in Iraq. They laughed at him in Iraq, and my nephew said he and a couple of buddies laughed at him tonight. He is a walking cartoon. One of Fox’s weakest links.
right2bright on June 15, 2007 at 12:51 AM
Not me, I was falsely accused, dammit!
Bad Candy on June 15, 2007 at 12:59 AM
Perhaps not a wise choice of words.
Now you have to do double kiss up.
Speakup on June 15, 2007 at 1:07 AM
Michelle does herself a disservice by getting so worked up that she can’t enunciate. She was so pissed she fumbled a few words more than once. I think this aspect of her public persona allows people to regard her as immature and naive…
unamused on June 15, 2007 at 1:13 AM
Heh. Nice try, but you’ve got us backward.
Bryan on June 15, 2007 at 1:17 AM
I think you’ll find life much more amusing if you stop sniffing
infidel4life on June 15, 2007 at 1:23 AM
…stop sniffing that glue.
infidel4life on June 15, 2007 at 1:24 AM
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