Fox News: Reid will reintroduce amnesty bill next week; Update: Whose votes are likely to switch?
posted at 5:48 pm on June 14, 2007 by Allahpundit
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He’s got the votes for cloture, according to Republican sources.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will approve a new deal on immigration on Thursday and move to bring the once-dead legislation back to the Senate floor next week, Democratic sources told FOX News…
Based on the latest updates on the policy and amendments, Reid will approve the compromise and move late Thursday to put the bill back on the calendar for Senate consideration in the middle of next week…
The principal change to the bipartisan immigration compromise that Reid shelved last week is the addition of $4.4 billion in added border security spending. That money will be added to the base bill to return to the floor. Any other changes to the immigration bill will have to be made through the amendment process…
With the GOP votes in hand and a finite list of amendments to be offered by 11 Democratic and 11 Republican senators, Democratic sources said Reid is now determined to see whether the legislation can survive the amendment process intact. If it does, the Senate could vote on final passage of the bill by next Friday, Democratic sources said.
GOP sources tell FOX News that the new bill has enough support from Republicans for Reid to prevail on a procedural vote to get the bill to final passage.
So obnoxious is this bill that they’ve actually engineered two separate layers of excuses to get fence-sitters to vote for it. The first is the $4.4 billion band-aid, which Kaus accurately described the other day as “a transparent ploy to give these [fence-sitting] senators pro-enforcement cover so they can vote for the bill.” They won’t agree to results-based triggers because they already know the enforcement measures won’t get results; that’s how “pro-enforcement” they are. But they will happily agree to outlays so that next year, when the papers inevitably report that illegal immigration is down only negligibly, they can look surprised and act indignant. The second excuse is the procedural sleight of hand here, as John Hawkins explained this morning:
[T]he cloture vote to end debate will be the “real” vote on the bill because if debate is closed off, the bill is sure to pass. Then, what will happen is that the votes for the bill will be counted, and a few Senators who are afraid that their election prospects will be jeopardized by a “yes” vote, will be allowed to vote against the bill. This enables those Senators to tell their constituents that they voted against the bill, but it will still allow them to collect campaign contributions from lobbyists who have a better understanding of how things work, and know that the bill couldn’t have been passed without their support. Put another way, they get to reap the rewards of supporting amnesty while telling the voters in their home states that they opposed the bill.
You need 60 votes for cloture (i.e., to end debate) but a simple majority to pass it. So the fence-sitters will vote yes on the first and no on the second, knowing that even without them the amnesty wing will still have 51 votes to push it through. Egregiously, transparently shabby, and as insulting in its own way as Linda Chavez or Michael Chertoff impugning people’s motives. Like the boss said, they really do think we’re stupid.
Update: Noam Askew names the 10 senators most likely to switch their cloture votes from no to yes once the bill is reintroduced. That would make it 55-40. The amnesty wing would need five more besides.
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And there is also the story going around that they intend to pull out all the ammendments related to enforcement when the negotiations between the house and senate get together for the final version of the bill
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on June 14, 2007 at 5:55 PM
That’s from Hawkins link.
Allahpundit on June 14, 2007 at 5:56 PM
They have to be made to understand that no one is going to be fooled by a cloture vote followed by a “no” vote if the bill passes. They have to be convinced that they will not be allowed that kind of political cover. Oh, this is so irritating!
Kensington on June 14, 2007 at 5:58 PM
What about the commentary round the web that might run into troubles b/c funding bills supposed to begin in house? Is that wishful thinking by people?
Spirit of 1776 on June 14, 2007 at 5:59 PM
I am sick to my stomach…
heatherrc77 on June 14, 2007 at 6:02 PM
You mean the promise of destroying this nation? Before that happens Mr. Bush, I believe the American people will be pushing back even harder than ever before we let that happen.
moonsbreath on June 14, 2007 at 6:03 PM
The 3 FLAMING TOCHES to keep sending to your reps as they attempt to reanimate this monster:
BUILD WALL.
ENFORCE LAWS.
FIRE POLITICAL PIMPS.
(I want to see Harry Reid flinch like Karloff from the people’s fire… “Nngahhh! Fire… baaaad!”)
Exit question: Is Hilary now Elsa Lanchester?
profitsbeard on June 14, 2007 at 6:05 PM
Well, I’m back to my TAX REVOLT position!
tickleddragon on June 14, 2007 at 6:05 PM
Above: TORCHES
(”Toches” is something else entirely.)
profitsbeard on June 14, 2007 at 6:06 PM
I’ve had enough. I’m ready to forsake my job, my home and everything else to forcefully throw theses asses of out Washington. They do not represent the people any longer. It is time for them to go NOW.
darwin on June 14, 2007 at 6:07 PM
What about the commentary round the web that might run into troubles b/c funding bills supposed to begin in house? Is that wishful thinking by people?
These people don’t give a damn about rules and propriety, especially not when they stand in the way of getting what they want.
Hell, the constitution didn’t stop them from passing McCain-Feingold, did it?
Kensington on June 14, 2007 at 6:07 PM
Now’s the time to dig in folks. We cannot allow this to happen. Get on the horn. Drive them nuts. Its now or never.
Zetterson on June 14, 2007 at 6:10 PM
No it didn’t. Fred supported that, didn’t he?
Spirit of 1776 on June 14, 2007 at 6:12 PM
My Senator is Mel Martinez. I am doomed.
CrimsonFisted on June 14, 2007 at 6:12 PM
This is a point that needs to be hammered home again and again and again in letters to your senators. Any vote for cloture is a de facto vote for this bill.
For that matter, any vote for cloture is a vote for:
1) Amnesty; and
2) Continued non-enforcement of the borders.
They’d better get the message, or will show them who’s really stupid – the idiots that would in any way vote for this bill knowing it will be a death sentence for their political career.
thirteen28 on June 14, 2007 at 6:13 PM
That 4.4 billion means a whole lot after they shot down the Coburn amendment to enforce all the laws already on the books! Shows how serious they are about enforcement, huh?
SSG Fuzzy on June 14, 2007 at 6:13 PM
My guy, Senator Craig (R Idaho) is going to vote for cloture and wont commit on how he will vote on final passage. I have called his office in Boise twice and explained that I will not accept his vote for cloture and then a no vote on the bill. If this bill makes it to the floor, regardless of what he does until 2008, he will not get my vote, nor the vote of my 4 family members.
That’s all I can do guys.
csdeven on June 14, 2007 at 6:14 PM
Bye bye, GOP.
I, for one, welcome our new Democrat overlords.
Good Lt on June 14, 2007 at 6:16 PM
Write his worthless ass anyway. Let him know why you’re pissed off. That way, when he finds himself unemployed in Jan. 2011, he’ll know why.
thirteen28 on June 14, 2007 at 6:18 PM
SSG Fuzzy-
Don’t worry, the 4.4 billion won;t be coming out of your pocket or mine.
Hey, wait a minute!
Yes it will!
Not only are they pimps and liars, but thieves as well.
Robbing Peter and Paula for Pedro and Abu …and for Stan and Jasmina and Mohammad and Mohamet and Muhammud and Jamal and Ilsa and anybody else who can mambo across the border.
profitsbeard on June 14, 2007 at 6:18 PM
Me too.
PRCalDude on June 14, 2007 at 6:19 PM
And they’re right.
hindmost on June 14, 2007 at 6:20 PM
thirteen28, you are right on, dead on, correct at both 6:13PM and 6:18PM.
Zetterson on June 14, 2007 at 6:20 PM
… about the vast majority of their constituents.
hindmost on June 14, 2007 at 6:20 PM
No CrimsonFisted, we’re all doomed by the likes of Mel Martinez (Lott, McCain, Bush etal). I honestly don’t see the Republican party surviving the split that will come if this bill passes.
Buzzy on June 14, 2007 at 6:22 PM
No it didn’t. Fred supported that, didn’t he?
Spirit of 1776 on June 14, 2007 at 6:12 PM
Touche.
Kensington on June 14, 2007 at 6:22 PM
He’s mine too.
Does nothing. He sends back a letter a couple weeks from now telling you that he understands your concern, but basically he’s going to do what he wants.
Glenn Beck was in Texas a few days ago, and he said he was hearing several different people talking about “locking and loading” and taking the government back. I’m not advocating it, Allah, I’m just repeating what he said he heard.
amerpundit on June 14, 2007 at 6:22 PM
What are you getting at there hindmost? If you think we’re stupid can you please elaborate on why? It sounds like we could use a little teaching.
Zetterson on June 14, 2007 at 6:24 PM
I sent back my RNC donation request card, with nothing in it, yesterday. I also made sure I called them to let them know it was coming.
What we need to do is demand a change in party leadership, or we’ll cut off all donations. This is our party, and we should take it back.
amerpundit on June 14, 2007 at 6:24 PM
A government “of the people, by the people, and for the people” . . . my backside!
The “people ” are going to be trashed in the best interests of these wormy politicos.
rplat on June 14, 2007 at 6:24 PM
I honestly don’t see the Republican party surviving the split that will come if this bill passes.
Maybe that’s for the best if it comes down to this. Surely a viable conservative alternative would have to rise up. The kind of vacuum left behind by the end of the GOP would be too big to go unfilled, wouldn’t it?
And I don’t mean the Libertarian Party. Oy vey…
Kensington on June 14, 2007 at 6:25 PM
RIP Democracy.
PRCalDude on June 14, 2007 at 6:26 PM
Enough of the big government. Enough of the open borders stance. Enough of the huge taxes. Enough of it all. Back to the stances that got Reagan elected. Reagan at least admitted it was amnesty, and admitted it failed.
amerpundit on June 14, 2007 at 6:26 PM
Please call your Senators’ offices now! I called both of mine (TX) and was not encouraged. The aides were both careful to say that the Senators would not vote to pass the bill “as is”. I had to dig deeper and let them know that I did not want them to pass this bill in any form. Senator Cornyn’s office admitted that he would be delighted to have the additional $4.4 B to enforce border security. I asked the aide what was done with all the previous funding to secure the border and why they weren’t enforcing it now? Why should we believe them now when they talk of enforcing border security? There was an uncomfortable silence. I told both Senators’ aides that the $4.4 B was nothing more than a ploy to give the Senators cover and that we, their constituents were not being fooled. I told them we will never forget such a betrayal if they allow this bill to pass. Please be very specific when you call your Senators and don’t let them blow you off.
MarkM on June 14, 2007 at 6:26 PM
Am I the only one who’d like to reintroduce my foot to Harry’s ass? Mr. “Undocumented Americans”, Mr. “War is Lost”. This guy is a disgrace. I honestly can’t believe we tolerate him as an actual Senator. It just boggles my mind that he’s still there, and that he’s the leader!
RightWinged on June 14, 2007 at 6:27 PM
Well, duh! The Republicans are dumb enough to negotiate with Ted Kennedy and other liberals. Of course, they’ll be all “surprised” when there is NO border enforcement whatsoever in the final bill. And of course the Prez. will sign it anyway.
SouthernGent on June 14, 2007 at 6:29 PM
Nay. RIP Republic.
Spirit of 1776 on June 14, 2007 at 6:29 PM
Good Lord, I hope this isn’t a lost fight…I keep trying to get up, but my representatives are kicking me in the teeth and giving away my inheritance to people who will keep them in power can come here and use and take my wealth and ever other American’s wealth.
I think we need Secession if this passes. I really do.
Tim Burton on June 14, 2007 at 6:30 PM
It’s still worth expressing your displeasure.
But anything else you can do is just as well. Maybe start a recall movement if law permits, something, anything.
We’re not there yet … BUT … if they continue to refuse to listen, if they continue to defy the will of an overwhelming majority of Americans, if they continue to govern without consent of the governed, we will have no other choice. In fact, we will have a duty.
It might sound like spouting off, but that’s how angry I am about this, and I am far from alone.
thirteen28 on June 14, 2007 at 6:31 PM
No. I’d be happy to oblige.
amerpundit on June 14, 2007 at 6:32 PM
Heartbreaking. When the evidence is all on the table, it is awful hard to justify their behavior, without willfully looking away.
Spirit of 1776 on June 14, 2007 at 6:33 PM
Filthy, lying POS Larry Craig apparently had enough cover in the cloture vote to vote “no”, despite the fact that he is a pro-amnesty weenie. He’ll have plenty of room to vote no on the bill, too, and have the ultimate Senate luxury — double cover.
His office tools now claim that he has been “working on this issue for 9 years”. Hopefully, Idaho voters will remove his silly ass from office despite the cowardly Senatorial BS no votes.
Jaibones on June 14, 2007 at 6:34 PM
What a fucking disgrace. We have come full circle. We now have a King and a Court, peopled by Dukes and Lords.
Martin on June 14, 2007 at 6:35 PM
See above, csd…Read ‘em and weep. POS.
Jaibones on June 14, 2007 at 6:36 PM
The Mexicans will certainly support that idea.
PRCalDude on June 14, 2007 at 6:36 PM
I can see the writing on the wall
Isakson (R – GA) Yea
Chambliss (R – GA) Nay
Guess which one is up for reelection and which one isn’t? If that is the way it goes down I don’t give a damn, I’ll vote against Chambliss first and in 4 years vote against Isakson.
LakeRuins on June 14, 2007 at 6:38 PM
He’ll only have double cover if Idaho voters let him off the hook. They need to be reminded early and often that A VOTE FOR CLOTURE IS A VOTE FOR AMNESTY.
Every senator in office needs to know that this is how we feel.
Let them know.
Repeatedly.
thirteen28 on June 14, 2007 at 6:39 PM
“A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.”
Unfortunately, my two esteemed senators are Murray and Cantwell. But I have had it, and I know many others- even in this blue state -who are pissed off beyond anything I’ve seen before.
If this bill passes the Senate, I feel strongly that there will be Americans en masse descending on the Capitol.
wccawa on June 14, 2007 at 6:41 PM
Rightwinged-
He’s so full of it, there’s clearly plenty off room up there.
I also have two size 12’s for Harry’s capacious seat of power.
profitsbeard on June 14, 2007 at 6:42 PM
And this is how democracy dies, to thunderous applause…
I’m sick to my stomach.
Darksean on June 14, 2007 at 6:43 PM
On the Fox News crawl right now:
Former MA Governor and ‘08 DEM Presidential Candidate
Somebody notify them that just because he is from MA doesn’t make him a DEM
LakeRuins on June 14, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Mitt Romney
LakeRuins on June 14, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Same here.
Spirit of 1776 on June 14, 2007 at 6:45 PM
I thought Harry Reid said this was George Bush’s bill?
ctmom on June 14, 2007 at 6:47 PM
Mojave Mark is in Nevada. Wit your’s and mine along with his, that’ll be four, count em, FOUR boots in in a$$!
csdeven on June 14, 2007 at 6:48 PM
We need to March on Washington. I wish Michelle, Rush, Laura, Glenn, etc., etc., would just get together and all simultaneously call for us to come. We will come. We need leadership now. Words and calls aren’t enough. They think they can ignore the will of 80% of the country with impunity and they must be taught they are sadly mistaken before they can make this abomination law.
Please Michelle talk to Laura. Call Rush. Let’s do this ASAP!
TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2007 at 6:52 PM
Thank you Allah for explaining the ’system’. Now I understand how to word my next e-mails and calls regarding both votes.
Limerick on June 14, 2007 at 6:53 PM
Craig is my guy….
I’m so fracken PISSED OFF that I’m ready to vote for someone else in 08 even if this bill fails! The absolute unmitigated gall of this a$$hole!
I’ve been calling him for 3 weeks and every single staffer tells me every single caller wants this bill dead. Yet here this jacka$$ is ready to vote for cloture!
csdeven on June 14, 2007 at 6:55 PM
What the hell good does this money do with thousands of additional border agents if they are not allowed to do their jobs?
What good does money do if border agents are not allowed to arrest illegals and deport them?
It doesn’t matter how much money and additional agents we get if deportation is not an option. . .which it won’t be.
januarius on June 14, 2007 at 6:58 PM
Then he’s no longer representing you.
amerpundit on June 14, 2007 at 6:59 PM
I honestly can’t understand WTF he’s thinking, particularly being from a reliably conservative state like Idaho – except that, as AP explains in the original post, that he might be able to fool the voters up there.
These politician really have no appreciation for the new world we live in, having the internet and blogs to rapidly spread information and educate people. The could have gotten away with this in the past, but not anymore when the rollcall for any vote is available within minutes of its occurrence.
Just keep pounding on him, day after day.
A VOTE FOR CLOTURE IS A VOTE FOR AMNESTY!!
thirteen28 on June 14, 2007 at 7:01 PM
I have looked for a blog that specializes in Idaho politics, but haven’t been able to find one. If someone has a data base or any idea on how to get started, please let me know.
I am going to look into starting a recall petition for Craig.
csdeven on June 14, 2007 at 7:28 PM
Just contacted both of my sister’s senators (UT).
I’m in CA, so mine are a lost cause. My sister is in UT and is against amnesty, but not the politically active type. Got her permission to contact them on her behalf and she gladly accepted.
I’ll send something to the two CA senator’s too, but it’s rather like throwing salt in the sea…..doesn’t seem to make much of a difference.
JadeNYU on June 14, 2007 at 7:29 PM
Unfortunately, you’ll find that there is no provision for recalling members of Congress. The Founding Fathers left that bit out of the Constitution, apparently because it seemed too democratic.
The only way to get rid of a congress critter is by a vote of the other congress critters or if you can convince your specific critter to resign.
Nice racket, huh?
wccawa on June 14, 2007 at 7:31 PM
PS… with tens (hundreds?) of millions of Americans in full fury against this bill, wouldn’t it stand to reason that
Rudy, Mitt, McCain orFred could make some major points by taking charge and leading the fight?wccawa on June 14, 2007 at 7:37 PM
wccawa,
okay, I thought someone said it was up to each state.
Well, now I’m done. I’m gonna go stick my nose in “Ghost Rider” for a couple hours so I can settle down.
csdeven on June 14, 2007 at 7:43 PM
Interesting. I’m not well-versed on that subject, but my first guess would have been that since they were originally selected by states, that a provision to recall them at the state government level might exist. Good to know before wild goose chase.
Spirit of 1776 on June 14, 2007 at 7:56 PM
Battle for America is on!
Drtuddle on June 14, 2007 at 7:57 PM
Heads Up – MM and Jerry Rivers debate amnesty on TOF.
You Go girl!
Tru2my2 on June 14, 2007 at 7:57 PM
Ironic but apropos:
There comes a time when deceit and defiance must be seen for what they are. At that point, a gathering danger must be directly confronted. At that point, we must show that beyond our resolutions is actual resolve.
-Dick Cheney
Rebut the Vice President, George.
Our government I feel has no real understanding of the national fever attached to this issue and our being just resolute would be putting the definition of that temperature, as an underestimation.
Speakup on June 14, 2007 at 8:04 PM
The Republicans think we were mad before???? Wait until they do this and then they are going to see what mad is!
I just received my Republican request for cash. What should I write on it as I send it back empty F**K NO!? Hum…not very Christian though…HELL NO?
When the revolution starts, me and mine are in! I’m going to write a book entitled, “How the Republican Party turned a Christian conservative wife and mother in Suburban America into an angry revolutionary”
CCRWM on June 14, 2007 at 8:05 PM
Too damn late then, isn’t it?
Call, write, visit, email, fax and carrier pigeon a message to each and every one of your Senators now. Then, do it again and again and again.
My guys, Warner and Webb, could go either way. My guess is Webb will vote Yea to side with Dingy Harry, and Warner will vote Yea cause he’s a chickenshit RINO and good friend of McCain.
DC is only 2 hours from here. Let me know when to be there.
BacaDog on June 14, 2007 at 8:07 PM
I’m filing this under aw s**t.
Someone tell me that the California GOP didn’t just hire a Canadian, Chris Matthews for a top spot and that he wasn’t hired by an Australian, Michael Kamburowski, also here on a Visa and Chief Operating Officer of the CaGOP.
I freakin just give up.
Buzzy on June 14, 2007 at 8:11 PM
AP, you gonna yank my post because I said chickensh1t? By George, that’s what they are!
Jerry Rivers and Michelle going at it on BOR right now.
BacaDog on June 14, 2007 at 8:15 PM
Geraldo is quoting surveys and polls “since 1901″.
What an idiot.
BacaDog on June 14, 2007 at 8:18 PM
Time to impeach Boosh if only to tie up this congress and president until we can vote in 2008. We need to put a stop to any legislation from the current group of egotists.
I would have never thought I would be in favor of removing Boosh but he is really screwing up this country and the damage will take years to repair, if it can be repaired.
Wade on June 14, 2007 at 8:19 PM
LakeRuins on June 14, 2007 at 6:38 PM
LakeRuins, I have contacted both Isakson’s and Chambliss’s offices and told them the same thing. I am really hoping that Herman Cain will run for Chambliss’s seat next year.
dawgyear on June 14, 2007 at 8:25 PM
I just saw TOF with Michele. Her facial expressions are perfect. She came off as reasonable, intelligent and thoughtful…Good job Michele!
Geraldo is the king of diversion, diversion, diversion! Does he think that repeating we all hate Latinos, especially Mexicans, and this is the reason we’re opposed to Amnesty that somehow it will magically become true? What an idiot. I know many legal Latinos or Citizens of Latin descent here in L A who are feeling overwhemed by what the illgals are doing to them socially, finacially and to their reputations.
Oh and someone should tell Geraldo that crossing the border illegally is a crime therefore, all illegals have committed a crime (100% rate). He can stuff his statistics.
CCRWM on June 14, 2007 at 9:21 PM
Speakup brought up Cheney.
WHERE has he been? Has anyone heard him utter a single word about this year’s version of amnesty???
Darksean on June 14, 2007 at 9:27 PM
The only silver lining in this is knowing that the Dems who think this will make them the majority party from ‘08 and beyond..will get burn big time when the Mexicans they think will keep voting for them turn and start putting their own people in power.
mlong on June 14, 2007 at 9:29 PM
Call and fax your congress critter……….Give them a piece of your mind.
http://www.numbersusa.com/actionbuffet
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 10:04 PM
Good point, mlong. Can’t wait to see how Chris Matthews questions the candidates in the 2020 election.
BacaDog on June 14, 2007 at 10:06 PM
There is a rally in D.C. this weekend, The March For America. It started today. I will be there on Saturday. Today’s rally only produced 30 people, that is pathetic. Anyone who can get there, please come. It is from 1-6 on Saturday and is also being held at State Capitols on that day for those who don’t live here.
hollygolightly on June 14, 2007 at 10:42 PM
Just went to Comrade Reids website and this guy has got some stones.
I wonder why they don’t want to listen to the will of the people on the immigration bill? Oh, wait, they already have the anti-war gang in their pocket, they want the illegal immigrant block of votes too. I understand now, silly me I thought they worked for the taxpayers.
deadbackpacker on June 14, 2007 at 10:53 PM
Thanks, holly. I’ll be there tomorrow afternoon.
BacaDog on June 14, 2007 at 11:02 PM
hollygolightly on June 14, 2007 at 10:42 PM
Wish I could make it but I’m in California and cant afford a plane ticket. Be there with you in spirit…..
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 11:08 PM
deadbackpacker on June 14, 2007 at 10:53 PM
No they just work the taxpayers…like a rib at a barbaque…
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 11:10 PM
Forgot to ask. Where is the rally? On the mall somewhere?
Meant to say Saturday, not tomorrow.
BacaDog on June 14, 2007 at 11:10 PM
GREAT! Hopefully we’ll have a better showing tomorrow and Saturday!
hollygolightly on June 14, 2007 at 11:11 PM
The event will be on the Mall at the Washington Monument (17th and Constitution Ave)!
hollygolightly on June 14, 2007 at 11:14 PM
They’re also holding it at State Capitols on Saturday if you’re anywhere near Sacramento. If you can’t make it, that’ll give you tons of time to ring those phones off the hook!
hollygolightly on June 14, 2007 at 11:18 PM
hollygolightly on June 14, 2007 at 11:18 PM
Nope, in San Diego, or as we often refer to it here Insane Diego…
doriangrey on June 14, 2007 at 11:21 PM
T
Know it well. I’ll see if any of my other fellow Richmond conservatives can come.
BacaDog on June 14, 2007 at 11:23 PM
Minor correction: the “double cover” comment was inspired by a statement from some brainless flack at one of his offices, who kept saying that he ended up “voting against cloture”, which led me to believe that somehow a cloture vote had been forced today.
This nitwit was talking about last week, and I didn’t get it.
Jaibones on June 14, 2007 at 11:23 PM
Well, glad you’ll be there in spirit from “Insane Diego,” haha!
Awesome! I wish this wasn’t on Father’s Day weekend, so many people are out of town!
hollygolightly on June 14, 2007 at 11:26 PM
I think it’s time to update that old Saturday Morning Cartoon PSA.
This is just too much, after what the cowardly MA legislature just did to me today, I’m fuming.
reaganaut on June 14, 2007 at 11:33 PM
This is why;
John Adams
1735-1826
Our Constitution was designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.
Speakup on June 15, 2007 at 12:39 AM
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