Silky Pony’s anti-terror plan: Send in the Peace Corps
posted at 2:00 pm on June 8, 2007 by Bryan
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Before I get too deep into this argument, it’s worth noting that we did produce a whole Vent about the need for civilian expertise and help to win the war in Iraq. That war is a full-spectrum counter-insurgency fight, and we as a nation have to bring all the resources we have to bear on it if we hope to win it. We didn’t come up with that on our own–the troops at Camp Justice were practically begging for help from the civilian sector and the non-military segments of the US government. That’s explained in this show:
Now, that said, John Edwards has released his plan for combating terrorism should he become president. It’s…not a very serious plan. Confederate Yankee and the NY Sun do a good job of unpacking it and all of its implications.
The plan Mr. Edwards presented yesterday — which he dubbed “A Strategy to Shut Down Terrorists and Stop Terrorism Before It Starts” — calls for a 10,000-person “Marshall Corps” to deal with issues ranging from worldwide poverty and economic development to clean drinking water and micro-lending. He said investing in those areas would shore up weak nations and help ensure that terrorism does not take root there. That, he said, would allow the country to stop potential terrorists before they even join the ranks.
There are “thousands committed to violence” today, he said, and America needs to use all of its tools to go after them. But he said millions more people are “sitting on the fence” about whether to join those ranks. “We have to offer them a hand to our side instead of a shove to the other side of that fence,” he said.
Mr. Edwards proposed creating a Cabinet-level position to oversee the initiative, which he said would require international allies. The president of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, Clifford May, said he was “skeptical” of Mr. Edwards’s proposal.
“Humanitarian aid is a good thing. I approve of that. But it doesn’t really have much to do with the causes of terrorism,” Mr. May said. ” Mohamed Atta, the lead terrorist on 9/11, was based in Germany, was well-educated. The causes of terrorism are several, but poverty is not one of them.”
Edwards seems to think, along with most leftists, that poverty is the root cause of terrorism. That’s a fundamental misunderstanding of the war we’re fighting. Poverty doesn’t explain Osama bin Laden or Mohammad Atta or most of the terrorists who have devoted themselves to killing us. Ideology and belief is their prime mover, not externalities like economic conditions. Edwards’ misunderstanding is the same one that led Sen. Patty Murray to extol Osama bin Laden’s highway-paving in Sudan while ignoring America’s far larger and more conspicuous humanitarian work all over the world. Put it this way: When disaster strikes in Indonesia, Pakistan or anywhere else, no one calls on al Qaeda to send in its navy to purify drinking water. That job goes to the US Navy.
Proposing that we need yet another Peace Corps/AmeriCorps/Girl Scout kind of organization to help fight the war is just typical leftist nonsense. We don’t need another bureaucracy. We need to use the ones we already have more effectively. And we need to use them in conjunction with military power where it’s needed, and it’s needed in an awful lot of places right now.
While Edwards is pushing for a new brass-plated “Marshall Corps” to do what the Peace Corps and AmeriCorps already do, he’s also pushing to keep the military out of the fight for longer periods of time.
* Force Structure: The force structure of our military should match its mission. The Administration’s mismanagement of the military has not only breached the faith at the highest levels—it has led to a very dangerous situation for our security. We are sending some troops back to Iraq with less than a year’s rest. Edwards believes we need to ensure that our force structure is well equipped for the challenges of the new century. We must have enough troops to rebuild from Iraq; to bolster deterrence; to decrease our heavy reliance on Guard and Reserve members in military operations; and to deploy in Afghanistan and any other trouble spots that could develop. As president, Edwards will also double the budget for recruiting and raise the standards for the recruiting pool so that we can reduce waivers issued for recruits with felonies, which have skyrocketed under President Bush.
Confederate Yankee responds:
Correct me if I am wrong, but as I recall history, the idea of our soldiers needing a year between deployments seems to be a modern phenomenon. Our soldiers in the Continental Army did not get year-long rest breaks in the Revolutionary War, the World Wars, or any other conflict in this nation’s history until the current war in Iraq. I seem to recall that units were sent into battle, fought, and took brief “R&R” breaks of much shorter durations during a major conflict, sometimes lasting just a few days or weeks, and other times lasting months.
By way of example, World War II’s “Band of Brothers,” Easy Company, 506th PIR, went through several weeks or months of combat, with several weeks or months of training or R&R between combat deployments.
Edwards is promoting using part of the Murtha “slow bleed” strategy to keep the military out of the war. Think about that.
For what it’s worth, I think the military needs to re-think the way it’s handling its deployments to Iraq. Currently, it’s sending units to one Area of Operation (AO) for a year, sending them to home base for a year, then sending them to an entirely different AO for their next deployment. Units end up taking up to six months just to learn who’s who in their new AOs, only to leave in another six months and then come back to be strangers in a strange land the next time. It makes very little sense to deploy a unit to Tikrit in 2004, and then to Baghdad or some other place in 2006. It’s a waste of time and lives to handle deployments the way they’re currently being handled. They ought to rotate in and out of the same AOs as much as possible, so they can build up and retain their knowledge of the battle space from year to year. But Edwards isn’t proposing any actual strategic thinking in his strategic plan. He’s proposing politics and signalling that he won’t be Bush. That’s not enough to win the war. Not that he really cares about that.
Put succinctly, Edwards’ plan isn’t serious. He wants to make the military larger while raising standards of entry. He wants to “aggressively gather intelligence” even while decrying Abu Ghraib, which had nothing to do with intelligence-gathering, and decrying the waterboarding that probably got Khalid Sheik Mohammed to betray ongoing plots that would have equalled or surpassed 9-11. He wants to close Gitmo, but doesn’t say what he’d do with KSM and the other hardened terrorists who are there. He thinks our nice treatment of captured terrorists will persuade terrorists who capture our guys to be nice to them. He wants to give more power to military commanders, when President Bush has always said that he relies on his field commanders to direct the war, and while Edwards is promising to be more hands-on in directing the war. His plan is a self-contradictory mishmash of dreams and dull-witted politics, along with one or two good ideas that he borrowed or that have already been implemented. It’s leftwing boilerplate designed to placate the nutroots. It’ll do that, but heaven help us if he actually ends up in the White House.
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Like a Department of Peace?
Slublog on June 8, 2007 at 2:04 PM
Yeah, something like that. He’s trying to capture the Kucinich space-cadet vote.
Bryan on June 8, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Collectivist Suicide
jp on June 8, 2007 at 2:05 PM
That this person has even the slightest chance of leading our country chills me to do bone on this hot June day.
Darksean on June 8, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Department of Organic Vegetables and Microlending.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on June 8, 2007 at 2:09 PM
Awesome. I expect Alcoa stock to soar.
Slublog on June 8, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Hey, we could call them the “Peace Corpses”! Don’t think they’d last very long trying to hug terrorists…
aero on June 8, 2007 at 2:11 PM
I will give him one bit of credit. At least he put something up. Most of the libs that decry the war, have no alternative plan beyond withdrawl or retreating to Okinawa. His plan may be nothing more than a sophisticated version of “we just need to talk to and understand the terrorists,” but at least he presented something.
Did he clarify if the soldiers have a right or a privelige to carry a gun?
Mallard T. Drake on June 8, 2007 at 2:12 PM
Bigger Government – that will solve everything!
Who in their right mind would sign up for the Silky Pony Brigade anyway? Unless you’re itching to be the star of a jihadi snuff film.
reaganaut on June 8, 2007 at 2:15 PM
There are thousands of ways to lose a war, but there is only one way to win it. You must break the will of the enemy to wage war, period!
The Dems certainly know how to lose one. This looming change in the Chief of Staff is another example. From what I can gather the Dems designated guy is nothing more then a glorified supply clerk from the Navy.
LakeRuins on June 8, 2007 at 2:18 PM
I propose a Department of Cannabis & Pizza. The plan is to get the terrorists stoned, listen to Sgt. Pepper’s and use the military to air drop Dominos coupons. The terrorists lose their will to terrorize…heck, they lose their will to do anything. There ya go…no more terrorists. War on Terror (The Bumper Sticker version) OVER & DONE.
Come on…it’s as good as Edward’s plan.
sdd on June 8, 2007 at 2:18 PM
I’m surprised that Edwards or another Dem has not proposed creating a corps of 30-40k professional peacekeepers. Trained and equipped like cops, they could be deployed to places like Darfur and be commanded only by the UN. It could be a lefty alternative to military service, showcasing their ideas -unionization, gays serving openly, non-lethal law enforcement strategies and other liberal action items. I would expect it to be a failure, but liberals actually believe that their ideas would make the world a better place.
rw on June 8, 2007 at 2:25 PM
Edward’s military aptitude reminds me of the move Brave Heart. You remember the prince?
“They sacked York?!”
natesnake on June 8, 2007 at 2:25 PM
Wow; ambitious post, Bryan.
Bryan Preston “Brings It” in his Thorough Analysis of Edwards Foreign Policy Treatise
You might have just put an open thread out there with the headline: “John Edwards is a Fairy”. You’d have gotten the same response…
Jaibones on June 8, 2007 at 2:26 PM
I think it’s a great idea. Send in the damn hippies. But first, they have to sign a waiver that if killed or captured, Amercian troops will not be required to rescue them.
natesnake on June 8, 2007 at 2:29 PM
I don’t thik we have to worry about him becoming…fortunately. He would look to instate the PonyCorps. What is the U.N. for?
Entelechy on June 8, 2007 at 2:33 PM
No Hippies for Oil!
aero on June 8, 2007 at 2:35 PM
At least someone recognizes that the ‘extremists’ only target legitimate targets. They would never go after school kids, missionaries, oil workers, or tourists. Visionaries like Edwards is just what the world needs. Where do I sign up?
Limerick on June 8, 2007 at 2:37 PM
What about hippy-gasification plants? Can we turn them into fuel?
More energy? Check.
Less hippies? Check.
Sure looks a win/win to me.
natesnake on June 8, 2007 at 2:41 PM
Damn hippies.
natesnake on June 8, 2007 at 2:41 PM
Hey – don’t knock Edwards understanding of poverty, he worked at a hedge fund, remember?
Good lord, he’s such a joke. That he’s even considered a serious candidate is troubling.
CP on June 8, 2007 at 2:45 PM
I think perhaps John Edwards has spent too much time in his mansion to get a grip on reality. The idea of beating Al Qaeda with the Peace Corps is the stuff of comedy cartoons. I can visualize Al Qaeda building a pyramid of ten thousand Peace Corps skulls outside Fallujah. However, I’ll give Edwards credit that this plan is marginally better than a class action suit against Al Qaeda, which was probably Plan A.
Tantor on June 8, 2007 at 2:52 PM
Some how I don’t think clean water and microlending will change the likes of bin Laden.
SPIFF1669 on June 8, 2007 at 2:56 PM
Without a draft, Peace Corps takes in people who like the idea of serving in remote places, including very experienced retired peple, like farmers or businessmen. Quite a few very interesting political people in Third World countries got their start as students of Peace Corps teachers, and some volunteers had to first build the schools they taught in. As a result, quite a few nowheresville villages have very positive things to say about Americans. Also, US Foreign Service has quite a few diplomats who are more savvy than their European counterparts, speaking obscure languages and having grassroots experience in Africa and Asia and elsewhere that Europeans never thought they’d had to work at learning about, thanks to being former Peace Corps Volunteers.
That being said, Edwards idea is pure crackpot.
The reporting that Michelle and Bryan did during their Iraq stay was very very interesting – to hear the lack of complementary support the military is getting. The military does the fight and holds the peace. It’s really isn’t in their mandate to build schools and waterlines, but since our troops have very motivated and well-rounded troops and leadership all the the way down and up the chain of command, they are adding these tasks on to their normal duties. They really do need the right kind of supplemental – again complementary work that would free them for the fight. What appears to be weak seems to be the big boys backup – like USAID. USAID used to be larded with certain types who were used to be on the ground and adept at shoving various thingys out of helicopters – development aid on steriods. They were very good at roads – getting in the no-nonsense constuction people – the types who built all the US highways. Under Clinton, USAID’s focus went out of the basic bread and butter development (roads, water, electricity sort of thing – read easy to measure) to myopically to condoms for HIV/AIDS and hard to measure environmental issues.
So, the old USAID crew, for all their faults DID know how to deliver “concrete” aid and fairly timely, even in tough zones. The new bunch? USAID in Iraq? Condoms for the people? Fussing about the treatment of Saddam’s sons’ wild animal menagerie? Ragging the Iraqi government for animal preserves?
Update USAID’s (and like organizations) mission … first. They are mired in talky-talky Left causes.
Peace Corps might have role later, later – but still, Iraq has many many educated people who need work, unlike some countries that are crying for basic education.
naliaka on June 8, 2007 at 3:17 PM
Do you mean that brave manly prince whose boyfriend got tossed out the window by the King?
I say send in code pink first!
abinitioadinfinitum on June 8, 2007 at 3:26 PM
No blood for patchouli oil!
James on June 8, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Sounds like the Clinton-era “Meals on Wheels” military, about which there are plenty of horror stories out there.
The only aspects of war that liberals know anything about are losing and surrendering.
ReubenJCogburn on June 8, 2007 at 4:01 PM
I love the picture of this hick dipshit. He seems to be thinking that, because he can bamboozle juries of retarded people, and bamboozle internet communities of truthers and moonbats, that someone is actually going to vote for him to run as the Democrat nominee for President of the United States.
I think he must be retarded.
Recently, some political observers have let slip that of all the candidates running for President, the only one that they actually hate is Edwards.
Medved, whatever else you may think of him, doesn’t seem to hate anyone, but he hates Edwards. Today on his radio gig, Dennis Miller went on a harmless rant against Edwards, comparing Kucinich favorably to Edwards. Most others seem to find him beneath contempt.
I find him to be the scum of this particular campaign.
Jaibones on June 8, 2007 at 4:10 PM
In Edwards world, this statement makes perfect sense. Let me explain …….
Poverty is foreign to the Silky Pony,
Terrorists come from foreign lands,
Therefore,
Poverty is the root of all terrorism.
I think what we have here, is evidence that hair dryers cause brain damage.
fogw on June 8, 2007 at 4:22 PM
What do you call 30,000 hippies with a one-way ticket to the Sudan, Pakistan or Somalia?
A good start. Well, unless we feel obligated to rescue them once they start getting kidnapped and/or beheaded.
Hollowpoint on June 8, 2007 at 4:35 PM
This has always been a false argument. Saudi Arabia is not a poor country. Most of the 911 hijackers werent from extreme poverty.
Its “lets give american money to solve the worlds problems” stupid think.
William Amos on June 8, 2007 at 5:12 PM
WHattajerk!
Sounds to me kind of like the Children’s Crusade back in the Middle Ages.
The children would take back the Holy Land because they were virtuous and sinless, whereas the previous crusades had failed because they were undertaken by sinful war-mongering men.
The result? The bulk of the Children’s Crusade were sold into arab/muslim slavery.
Maybe Edwards is worried that we are not providing our enemies enough hostages.
Hobbie on June 8, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Edwards is a moron, did he ever consider the billions in aid money many western nations had provided to Arafat and his “Palestinian People” and what good it DIDN’T do before opening his ignorant pie-hole?
Seriously, are the Palestinians any better off after being given billions in aid? If so then where is their infrastructure, their manufacturing plants that would create jobs and a sustainable economy, and the many other things that bring prosperity and a better quality of life? They don’t exist because all that aid money went to suicide bombings, terrorism, and to line Arafat and his cronies pockets!
Giving aid to people that hate us and want us dead, people that can’t even get along with each other is ridiculous and proves Edwards is an appeaser and apologist to our enemies! Instead we should spend the money on Walter Reed Medical Center and other military needs, but absoluteley not a penny to those that celebrated in the streets on 9-11 and continue to pray to Allah for our destruction!
Edwards campaign slogan should be; “Edwards, a strong leader you can count on to appease and apologize to our enemy!”
Liberty or Death on June 9, 2007 at 2:55 PM
10,000 human shields to Sudan. Why stop at 10,000? Think of how many liberals are chomping at the bit to be “deployed” in some godforsaken hell hole.
Mojave Mark on June 10, 2007 at 12:47 AM
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