Comments on: Joe Klein hammers “often witless” nutroots “extremists”

By: Bradky

Bradky — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:08:15 +0000

fully 35% of Democrats believe Bush Knew?

Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. This means fully 14% of Republicans believe the same thing.

The right has its fair share of extremists who act similarly. I don’t agree with his conclusion about the media being right slanted.

..But the smart stuff is being drowned out by a fierce, bullying, often witless tone of intolerance that has overtaken the left-wing sector of the blogosphere. Anyone who doesn’t move in lockstep with the most extreme voices is savaged and ridiculed..

Go to TNR and consider the comments of even some posters here and the same case could be made for treatment of moderate Republicans.

By: Kensington

Kensington — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 19:47:57 +0000

I’ve been hearing this argument from several extreme lefties I know. I was actually giggling when I first heard that. I’m beginning to think I woke up in bizzaro world.

It really is a remarkably dim assertion, isn’t it? The ones who know they’re lying sound disingenuous and the ones who believe it sound desperate.

Has the argument ever been any more complex than “the media is owned by corporations and corporations are conservative?” leaving aside the disconnect between, say, management and editorial and ignoring completely the media participants’ own overwhelming leftward slant?

It would be funny if it weren’t so galling.

By: Kini

Kini — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:48:55 +0000

that the media is actually “right-wing”

I’ve been hearing this argument from several extreme lefties I know. I was actually giggling when I first heard that. I’m beginning to think I woke up in bizzaro world.

By: Kensington

Kensington — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:08:08 +0000

Yeah, chalk me up as one of those who rolled their eyes as soon as Klein started blaming it all on talk radio and the right-wingers. Anyone who’s dealt with the idealogues of the far left has experienced how loathesome they’ve been for decades. Talk radio not only didn’t start this, their overall tone (with the exception of people like Savage — who probably isn’t sincere anyway) has consistently been more humorous, rational, tolerant and open-minded.

By: unamused

unamused — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:01:54 +0000

now they get to remake the party in their own filthy image.

YIKES!!

Filthy: There is no better word to describe liberal ideology and behavior.

By: Are Bloggers Merely Bullies With Computers? » The Moderate Voice

Are Bloggers Merely Bullies With Computers? » The Moderate Voice — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:06:29 +0000

[...] SOME OTHER THOUGHTS ON KLEIN: TPM Cafe, Talk Left, David Frum, Hot Air, Tbogg, [...]

By: MarkB

MarkB — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:49:05 +0000

Well said.

By: Jaibones

Jaibones — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:23:21 +0000

I wrote to Time yesterday (don’t bother looking, it’ll never see the light of day) to point out this exact thing. Klein’s one of the millions of media lefties, and we’ve been pointing out the unhinged lunacy of their fans, the moonbats, for years, with my favorite example of media liberals who come too close to the center and instantly become “butt-boys for the wingnuts” in the eyes of the DUmmies.

This only vindicates the critics of the unhinged Democrats.

By: Jaibones

Jaibones — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:17:09 +0000

It’s all part of the grand experiment to prove, with geometric logic, that the media is actually “right-wing” because liberals like Klein aren’t left-wing enough.

Allahpundit

Exactly. Ex – effing – actly…

By: LakeRuins

LakeRuins — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:12:25 +0000

Very few left wing bloggers have the name recoginition that the right wing talk radio commentators have, so I detect a little bit of envy. A lot of the left leaning web content appeals to people who traditonally don’t vote or in a lot of cases are too young to vote. So while all the profanity and name calling appeals to the juveniles it doesn’t translate into votes.
I think this next election though is really going to be of interest to real independents who, like me, are ready to vote against anybody that is an incumbent. The stance that my 2 senators have taken on the immigration bill almost assures that Chambliss is out. A lot of Dems are jumping into the race in GA smelling the blood in the water, but what I am waiting on is somebody to come out on the Republican side. Herman Cain are you listening????

By: jummy

jummy — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:10:55 +0000

has anyone else noticed that a number of leftwing bloggers “blog” in major media outlets; i.e., greenwald at salon, wonkette, sullivan at time, etc.? you know, that major media which lying neocons pretend is “librul” but is in fact obviously rightwing due to it’s difference from indymedia?

By: The Autopsy: Mixed Nuts

The Autopsy: Mixed Nuts — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:06:55 +0000

Mixed Nuts…

So 61% of the Democratic party either think Bush was involved in 9/11 or he’s capable of being behind the 9/11 attacks. 61%!!!! Nearly 2/3 of the party believes Bush attacked America or he may have attacked America in a false-flag operation….

By: VikingGoneWild

VikingGoneWild — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:00:54 +0000

How about if fully 35% of Democrats believe Bush Knew?

I’ve said before but I’ll say it one more time. If GWB knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance how come he didn’t hold a party for the democraps on the top floor of one of the towers?

100% of Repub’s know at least 35% of democraps are full of bulls _ _ t. (I don’t want to get banned so use your imagination!)

GWB did not cause the last ice age.
GWB did not cause Jesus to be crucified.
GWB did not cause the Spanish armada.
GWB did not cause the French Revolution.
GWB did not cause the Civil War.
GWB did not cause the Titanic to sink.
GWB did not cause WW1.
GWB did not cause WW2.
GWB did not cause Jimi Hendrix to OD (what a loss! dammit!)
GWB did not cause the Iranians to overrun our embassy.
GWB did not cause the Beirut barracks bombing in 1983.
GWB did not cause the 1993 WTC attacks.
GWB did not cause the USS cole attack.
GWB did not cause me to suffer a concussion in 2000.
GWB did not cause Hurricane Katrina. (any other weather condition before or since)
GWB did not cause the THE 9-11 ATTACK VS. the WTC!

Wake up and smell what you are shoveling.

By: Anton

Anton — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:59:26 +0000

I thought the article was fairly good until he compared talk radio (and especially Rush Limbaugh) with the hate-consumed lefty blogosphere. So, according to Klein, Rush Limbaugh is responsible for the crazies over at DKos and HuffPo, since they are merely reacting to what he started. It’s all just a viscious cycle of hate, man.

As a HotAir reader/commentor, talk-radio junkie, and obsessive surfer of many right-wing (and left-wing) political sites, I am as plugged into the VRWC as anyone. And I have never heard anything like lefty nutroots vitriol from anyone in a position of influence. The closest would be Michael Savage and Bill O’Reilly (sorry, Michelle), but even those guys stick mostly to sneering or shouting and leave the crazy hatred alone.

You can find some right-wing crazies in the comment section of blogs (and Freepers seem especially cranky), but there again the hatred and paranoia is mostly a pale imitation of what you can find on the left.

I’m not sure I have a point, other than Joe Klein is kidding himself if he thought Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, or Ann Coulter were to blame for left-wing nutroots brown-shirt tactics.

By: The Stout Republican » Blog Archive » You Don’t Say

The Stout Republican » Blog Archive » You Don’t Say — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:57:10 +0000

[...] As I write this now…Hot Air just pops up with a related article on my RSS feeder…curse his eyes! Anywho….reading…reading…nugget: It’s the fact that he seems to care so much what the nutroots thinks of him in the first place that’s whiny and embarrassing. Of course they’re unfair and fanatic in enforcing ideological discipline; to borrow a phrase from Ellensburg himself, that’s who they are and that’s what they do. If you’re going to feed the trolls, don’t be surprised when they follow you home and you end up in a moronic running feud like this one. [...]

By: LakeRuins

LakeRuins — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:55:37 +0000

The liberal nutroots have a say as far as the primaries are concerned, however when it comes general election time they hold less sway.
What is needed this time around, I hope we learned from 2006 elections, is a much more active net presence from the conservatives. I know most of the popular sites such as Digg® and YouTube® are very effective at blocking material that could be deemed detrimental to liberals but bloggers from the right are going to have to fight through those barriers. The Fred! response to Mikey Moron proved it can be done.
Bloggers from the right can not let what the liberals say during the primary races be forgotten in the run up to the general election.
Kerry’s defeat is often hung on the Swift Boat Veterans, and this go around it is going to take a whole fleet of Swift Boaters to not only get the RINO’s out but block the liberals from gaining any ground.

By: flipflop

flipflop — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:51:05 +0000

How about if fully 35% of Democrats believe Bush Knew?

I read that this morning. Not only do 35% believe it, but fully 65% at least think he may have known. If anything I've read recently makes me despair for this country, that survey is it.

By: Spirit of 1776

Spirit of 1776 — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:44:14 +0000

Howard Dean proved that they had influence in the Presidential election, and that has only grown. KP has a point considering that ‘blue-dog’ dems were the major beneficiary of the GOP breakdown, but nutroots are labeled extreme is now only valid for ideology, not influence.

By: budorob

budorob — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:42:00 +0000

Read it this morning. What a cry-baby! His experience pales in comparison to MM.