Amnesty bill cloture vote in progress; Update: Cloture fails, 45-50; Update: Dead?

posted at 8:36 pm on June 7, 2007 by Allahpundit

Cross your fingers.

Update: They’re very close to 41 no votes. Webb, Tester, and Pryor — all Democrats — just voted no.

Update: I’m pretty sure they’ve got 41. But will Reid renege on his threat to shelve it and offer new amendments instead? See the boss’s late update here about FAIR and the super-amendment the amnesty crowd is drafting.

Update: Jon Kyl, the linchpin of the “grand compromise,” just voted no. The vote’s going to fail. The question now is what Reid does.

Update: It failed, 45-50. Reid’s speaking now. He’s shelved it for now but says he’s open to a package of new amendments over the next several weeks to try to pass the bill. It’s dead — for now.

Update: Fox is running the headline, “Immigration bill dies in the Senate.” I’m not so sure…

Update: Reid noted that an unnamed colleague came into his office today and cried over the bill. MM names the prime suspect.

Update (bp): I can’t take much more of Dingy Harry whining on the Senate floor. Especially when he doesn’t know the difference between illegal aliens and lawful citizens. The man is a sad joke.


Update: MM pens the obituary:

As annoying as Reid’s refrain was, he is right: This was the president’s bill. This was the monstrous sham that President Bush tried to ram through the Senate with his pal Teddy Kennedy–subverting the committee process, attempting to cram it in before the Memorial Day holiday, rushing to limit debate, and then complaining about delays. This was the bill President Bush sent conservative-bashing bureaucrats like DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff to peddle on CNN. This was the bill President Bush championed while deriding critics as fearful bigots and running away from building the fence he promised to build.

If the White House thinks conservatives are going to forget whose bill this was and the tactics the White House used in its failed attempt to ram it through Congress, they better think again.

If Lindsay Graham and John McCain think their abominable behavior is going to be forgotten, they better think again.

Update: John Hawkins: “A source in the Senate says this bill is as dead as Stalin and it won’t be becoming back no matter what McConnell is saying on the floor.”

Update: If Hawkins’s source is telling the truth then pin a big gold star on Jim DeMint. Or, as I like to call him, the Anti-Graham:

After the 2nd cloture vote failure at noon on Thursday, Harry Reid could not get unanimous consent to call up amendments to the bill because Jim DeMint refused to give his consent. This was extremely problematic for Reid because he wanted to get in votes on 6 more amendments before the last try at a cloture vote… This essentially killed the entire afternoon that the pro-amnesty side hoped to use to shore up support for the bill.

While DeMint was gumming up the works, the opponents of the bill, including most prominently Jim DeMint, Jeff Sessions, and Tom Coburn, huddled and came up with a list of conservative amendments they wanted considered.

The “Grand Compromise” crowd didn’t want a lot of these amendments to be voted on because either some of the amendments would have been accepted and it would have killed the bill or alternately, they would have had to vote against common sense enforcement measures and made themselves look bad.

Update: The sweet smell of death is in the air

Democratic leaders were quietly pessimistic. House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) said Bush could count on 175 to 180 House Democrats to support a similar, comprehensive immigration bill, leaving the White House to deliver at least 40 Republicans in a body that has been far more polarized.

“If Bush could not get the votes in the Senate, what was he going to do in the House?” Emanuel asked.

Update: WaPo reveals the wrangling that secured passage of the killer Dorgan amendment last night and ultimately probably doomed the bill. Trent Lott is shocked, shocked (and “ashamed”) to find strategic voting going on:

Dorgan and a GOP ally, Sen. Bob Corker (Tenn.), looked to Republicans who had voted against the sunset amendment two weeks ago but who were known to have qualms about the bill itself. The target list included five senators from states with illegal-immigration problems, or where the issue had a particular potency with conservative voters. Along with DeMint, the list named Sens. Jim Bunning (Ky.), Charles E. Grassley (Iowa), Elizabeth Dole (N.C.) and Mike Enzi (Wyo.). Dole and Enzi face reelection next year.

After conversations with Dorgan and among themselves, four of the five decided to support Dorgan’s late-night second effort. Moments before the vote, Republican leaders succeeded in talking Grassley back to their side.

Update: WaPo reporter Dan Balz mourns the demise of the amnesty craptacular and wonders what it means for our political culture that we can’t come together as a people to support horrible, disastrous policy compromises.

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tomas
You lost a friend in the war in Iraq, well welcome to the club. I don’t what qualifies as a friend in your book but did you even know what unit he was in? Did you even know he was in Iraq before you heard of his death?
I retired in 99 after 20+ years in the infantry in the Army. To date I have lost 16 friends in this war. My definition of friend is people who sat in my living room or came to my house or me to theirs to socialize. Their kids played with my kids. Their wives and my wife went out on “Girls Night Out”.
I cede the “moral high ground” to no one when they want to use that as a canard to either protest for or against the war. I know who the enemy is both foreign and domestic.
6 days after Hillary and Murtha gave a press briefing on tv and complete with a picture of a soldier wearing the body armor of the time with the vulnerable spots highlighted in red circles and published in the USA Today one of my friends took an 7.62 bullet to the exact location on the neck highlighted. He was a trained sniper taken out by a jihadi sniper.
While congress critters were bemoaning the lack of armor plating on our HMMV’s they also served notice that any explosive charge over 30lbs would punch a hole into the vehicle. Within 2 weeks you couldn’t find an IED with less then 35 lbs of explosive. We increased the armor and now the vehicles weighed too much to be jacked up for maintenance. A bunch of us got together and paid for and had shipped a bunch of 5 ton hydraulic jacks to address the problem.
When a combat medic with the 101st made us aware that the best tool in his bag and for the troops was a ratcheting style tie down strap to use as a tourniquet for soldiers hit with an IED within weeks he had enough to issue one to each man in the battalion.
Sorry but I am capable of supporting the troops and also making sure that this country addresses its concerns here at home also.
The guy in field wants me too, expects me too, and by god the least I can do while they are laying it on the line over there is try and make sure the country they left is the same one they return to.
/rant off

LakeRuins on June 8, 2007 at 4:13 PM

Again, You guys haven’t been as out there as you were for this AMNESTY Bill. NOR have the representatives. You are capable as is everyone else. Let Roll.

Forget about the Bill itself…that isn’t my point…it is the flat out anger committment and aggressiveness that has come from it. Than HAS waned on Iraq.

I want people to recommit to that.

tomas on June 8, 2007 at 4:20 PM

Thanks for what you do Lake…I’m a bit crazy sometimes.

tomas on June 8, 2007 at 4:21 PM

tomas, it appears Lakeruins is for my previously mentioned “comprehensive” strategy as well. Stand up to those who don’t want to enforce the laws at home and support the troops all at the same time.

Lakeruins, you are the man. God bless and thank you for all you do.

Zetterson on June 8, 2007 at 4:30 PM

McCain (R-AZ), Yea

And with that vote Senator McCain effectively ended his presidential campaign.

LakeRuins on June 8, 2007 at 9:24 AM

Dead on LakeRuins

msipes on June 8, 2007 at 5:07 PM

I gotta admit LakeRuins…you summed it up well.

The Appeasers (the Democrats) have no souls.

msipes on June 8, 2007 at 5:14 PM

All bills are Undead, and dangerous, until their flunkies are fired.

Time to make note of the pimps of this amnesty perversity, and make sure to track them down and un-vote them as they come up for electoral judgment.

We need Solomons, we get Salmonellas.

Time to flush the governmental bowels of these parasites.

They’re living too high on stolen loot (ours, taken by legalistic mumbo-jumbo AKA taxpayer fraud).

Time for them to head back to the hustings and repent.

Keep the sharpened stakes ready for a BILL 2- the Rematch!

There’s a lot of power behind this attempted-reaming.

They need to be noted as the ultimate marionette yankers.

And kept from flooding the land with scofflaws.

profitsbeard on June 8, 2007 at 6:19 PM

LakeRuins-

Amen to that.

Talk, chew gum, and defuse an IED at the same time?

Damn.

profitsbeard on June 8, 2007 at 6:23 PM

Bush is trying to revive this travesty with an intensity he does not use when he must confront Democrats. He seems to be more comfortable screwing America and the GOP than in fighting for conservative causes. his lies about Hispanic family values, education levels, and crime are slowly coming out. Bush’s behavior is disgusting.

pat on June 8, 2007 at 6:37 PM

Great, Geraldo is going to be on O’Reilly. This oughta be rich…

WisCon on June 8, 2007 at 8:01 PM

Thanks for what you do Lake…I’m a bit crazy sometimes.

tomas on June 8, 2007 at 4:21 PM

No problem dude. We ain’t gonna let our boys men in Iraq down either. We need to secure the home front first.

sonnyspats1 on June 9, 2007 at 12:40 AM

McCain (R-AZ), Yea

And with that vote Senator McCain effectively ended his presidential campaign.

LakeRuins on June 8, 2007 at 9:24 AM

and his political career in Arizona.

AZ_Redneck on June 9, 2007 at 1:49 AM

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