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Amnesty bill cloture vote in progress; Update: Cloture fails, 45-50; Update: Dead?

posted at 8:36 pm on June 7, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Cross your fingers.

Update: They’re very close to 41 no votes. Webb, Tester, and Pryor — all Democrats — just voted no.

Update: I’m pretty sure they’ve got 41. But will Reid renege on his threat to shelve it and offer new amendments instead? See the boss’s late update here about FAIR and the super-amendment the amnesty crowd is drafting.

Update: Jon Kyl, the linchpin of the “grand compromise,” just voted no. The vote’s going to fail. The question now is what Reid does.

Update: It failed, 45-50. Reid’s speaking now. He’s shelved it for now but says he’s open to a package of new amendments over the next several weeks to try to pass the bill. It’s dead — for now.

Update: Fox is running the headline, “Immigration bill dies in the Senate.” I’m not so sure…

Update: Reid noted that an unnamed colleague came into his office today and cried over the bill. MM names the prime suspect.

Update (bp): I can’t take much more of Dingy Harry whining on the Senate floor. Especially when he doesn’t know the difference between illegal aliens and lawful citizens. The man is a sad joke.

Update: MM pens the obituary:

As annoying as Reid’s refrain was, he is right: This was the president’s bill. This was the monstrous sham that President Bush tried to ram through the Senate with his pal Teddy Kennedy–subverting the committee process, attempting to cram it in before the Memorial Day holiday, rushing to limit debate, and then complaining about delays. This was the bill President Bush sent conservative-bashing bureaucrats like DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff to peddle on CNN. This was the bill President Bush championed while deriding critics as fearful bigots and running away from building the fence he promised to build.

If the White House thinks conservatives are going to forget whose bill this was and the tactics the White House used in its failed attempt to ram it through Congress, they better think again.

If Lindsay Graham and John McCain think their abominable behavior is going to be forgotten, they better think again.

Update: John Hawkins: “A source in the Senate says this bill is as dead as Stalin and it won’t be becoming back no matter what McConnell is saying on the floor.”

Update: If Hawkins’s source is telling the truth then pin a big gold star on Jim DeMint. Or, as I like to call him, the Anti-Graham:

After the 2nd cloture vote failure at noon on Thursday, Harry Reid could not get unanimous consent to call up amendments to the bill because Jim DeMint refused to give his consent. This was extremely problematic for Reid because he wanted to get in votes on 6 more amendments before the last try at a cloture vote… This essentially killed the entire afternoon that the pro-amnesty side hoped to use to shore up support for the bill.

While DeMint was gumming up the works, the opponents of the bill, including most prominently Jim DeMint, Jeff Sessions, and Tom Coburn, huddled and came up with a list of conservative amendments they wanted considered.

The “Grand Compromise” crowd didn’t want a lot of these amendments to be voted on because either some of the amendments would have been accepted and it would have killed the bill or alternately, they would have had to vote against common sense enforcement measures and made themselves look bad.

Update: The sweet smell of death is in the air

Democratic leaders were quietly pessimistic. House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) said Bush could count on 175 to 180 House Democrats to support a similar, comprehensive immigration bill, leaving the White House to deliver at least 40 Republicans in a body that has been far more polarized.

“If Bush could not get the votes in the Senate, what was he going to do in the House?” Emanuel asked.

Update: WaPo reveals the wrangling that secured passage of the killer Dorgan amendment last night and ultimately probably doomed the bill. Trent Lott is shocked, shocked (and “ashamed”) to find strategic voting going on:

Dorgan and a GOP ally, Sen. Bob Corker (Tenn.), looked to Republicans who had voted against the sunset amendment two weeks ago but who were known to have qualms about the bill itself. The target list included five senators from states with illegal-immigration problems, or where the issue had a particular potency with conservative voters. Along with DeMint, the list named Sens. Jim Bunning (Ky.), Charles E. Grassley (Iowa), Elizabeth Dole (N.C.) and Mike Enzi (Wyo.). Dole and Enzi face reelection next year.

After conversations with Dorgan and among themselves, four of the five decided to support Dorgan’s late-night second effort. Moments before the vote, Republican leaders succeeded in talking Grassley back to their side.

Update: WaPo reporter Dan Balz mourns the demise of the amnesty craptacular and wonders what it means for our political culture that we can’t come together as a people to support horrible, disastrous policy compromises.


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No never sounded so good. Come on…

Spirit of 1776 on June 7, 2007 at 8:40 PM

And Collins and Snowe voted no.

DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES? YES!

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 8:43 PM

Barbara Boxer voted no, too.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 8:43 PM

McKassical, Landriue vote no.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 8:45 PM

Did Lott just vote no?

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 8:45 PM

Kyl votes no. Specter votes yes. Lott votes no.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 8:46 PM

So if Reid (NV) votes aye, then is it officially dead, assuming that it is

rw on June 7, 2007 at 8:46 PM

Kevorkian’s free. Just kill it, Jack.

JammieWearingFool on June 7, 2007 at 8:46 PM

*fingers, toes, legs, arms and eyes crossed*

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 8:47 PM

I was going to say the same thing, Slublog. Lott voted no after his hissy fit about standing up and getting it done?!

“Are we men or are we mice?”

I guess we’ll have to start calling him Sen Mickey…

dead-duck on June 7, 2007 at 8:47 PM

I suspect more back-room maneuvering.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 8:48 PM

They’ve only got a few more minutes to maneuver. I think it was only a 20-minute vote.

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 8:50 PM

I’m wondering if Reid is part of the “super amendment” crowd and decides to keep the bill alive so they can vote on a 400 page amendment.

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 8:50 PM

They’ve only got a few more minutes to maneuver. I think it was only a 20-minute vote.

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 8:50 PM

No, I mean with the 400 page super ammendment.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 8:52 PM

Not sure what’s going on with that.

A 400-page amendment. Unbelievable.

But can you believe Boxer did the right thing?

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 8:53 PM

But can you believe Boxer did the right thing?

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 8:53 PM

Heheh. It was cuz I called and emailed.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 8:54 PM

Heheh. It was cuz I called and emailed.
PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 8:54 PM

I think Collins and Snowe got the message, as well. Collins is still not going to get my vote next year (she voted against the Coburn amendment), but at least she did the right thing here.

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 8:56 PM

Oh crap, I started flipping channels to find some news on this vote and came face to face with that Obermann guy.

abinitioadinfinitum on June 7, 2007 at 8:56 PM

Oh crap, I started flipping channels to find some news on this vote and came face to face with that Obermann guy.
abinitioadinfinitum on June 7, 2007 at 8:56 PM

Okay, apply bleach to the brain immediately.

And then pour yourself a stiff drink.

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 8:57 PM

YES!!! CLOTURE VOTE FAILS!

Now let’s see if Reid keeps his word and shelves this monstrosity.

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 8:57 PM

HIP HIP

abinitioadinfinitum on June 7, 2007 at 8:58 PM

Cloture fails.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 8:58 PM

Down goes cloture 45 ayes, 50 nays.

Dingy Harriet now whining about the rules. Money says he pulls the nuclear option out.

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 8:58 PM

Come on, Harry. Spit it out……

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 8:58 PM

I tried, I tried…
Try pulling the bill, Harry.

Spirit of 1776 on June 7, 2007 at 9:00 PM

He is such a worm.

jeffshow on June 7, 2007 at 9:01 PM

He pulled the bill from the floor!

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 9:01 PM

Bill’s off the floor…for now.

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 9:01 PM

Reid pulled it.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:01 PM

“Lots of support from this bill on the outside?”

Wow. What cocoon is he living in?

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 9:01 PM

“Lots of support on the outside.”

BRAVO SIERRA!

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 9:01 PM

Harry just said lots of support ‘on the outside’ for this bill. Uh, outside the borders?

Spirit of 1776 on June 7, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Whiney POS. He says there is “lots of support on the outside”

WHERE? Fool.

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Wow. What cocoon is he living in?

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 9:01 PM

DC. What is it, 67 miles of swamp surrounded by reality?

Dingy – I couldn’t control my caucus, but I’m blaming the Pubbies.

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 9:03 PM

HArry just blamed the Republicans. All they could give him is 7 votes for cloture.

Bill C on June 7, 2007 at 9:03 PM

Awww. Reid just realized that 51% isn’t a mandate, and we hold a filibuster.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:03 PM

Oh boo hoo. Here comes the sob story from the illegal aliens.

jeffshow on June 7, 2007 at 9:03 PM

Harry just said lots of support ‘on the outside’ for this bill. Uh, outside the borders?

Spirit of 1776 on June 7, 2007 at 9:02 PM

DING! DING! DING!

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 9:03 PM

Oh crap, I started flipping channels to find some news on this vote and came face to face with that Obermann guy.

abinitioadinfinitum on June 7, 2007 at 8:56 PM

Someone really needs to bring a moonbat V-chip onto the market.
Incidents like yours can result in serious brain damage if you’re caught offguard.

billy on June 7, 2007 at 9:03 PM

Umm, so Reid knew a girl whose parents are here illegally, and he said nothing?

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Someone SHUT HIM UP.

Who cares Harry!!!!! They’re I-L-L-E-G-A-L.

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Pretty mad for someone elses bill. I’d get up there and say…I talked to a wonderful girl who was killed by illegals.

tomas on June 7, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Oh, so now some kids not an “undocumented American”, he just has “bad papers”.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Update: Fox is running the headline, “Immigration bill dies in the Senate.” I’m not so sure…

I’m not either.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:05 PM

Someone SHUT HIM UP.

Who cares Harry!!!!! They’re I-L-L-E-G-A-L.

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 9:04 PM

I can’t help the 90-some Senators that have to listen to Dingy, but there is the mute button for the rest of us.

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 9:05 PM

Aww. His feelings are hurt. I haven’t been this happy in a long time.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:06 PM

Why so many cloture votes? Because they don’t want anyone to know what they’re voting on.

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 9:08 PM

Boo-effing-Hoo Harry. Cry me a river…

bofh on June 7, 2007 at 9:08 PM

Dude, let’s not be talking about ‘it’s too early to give up on this bill’. Mitch, it’s the perfect time to give up on this bill.

Spirit of 1776 on June 7, 2007 at 9:09 PM

He’s not pulling it.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:09 PM

I love this line from Michelle’s blog…

Somber Harry Reid: “Mr. President, this has been a very difficult time…I was hoping that my friends on the other side of the aisle that a small group shouldn’t dictate what happens around here.

Um, you mean like a small group of minority illegal aliens in our country? …just wondering.. ;-)

DakRoland on June 7, 2007 at 9:09 PM

Update: Fox is running the headline, “Immigration bill dies in the Senate.” I’m not so sure…
I’m not either.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:05 PM

Even more important, FOX said Paris could be headed back to jail.Yeah, Right

abinitioadinfinitum on June 7, 2007 at 9:11 PM

Wow.

Reid is whiny.

Slublog on June 7, 2007 at 9:12 PM

Reid: It’s all the Republicans’ fault. We really tried, but they didn’t. We can’t do it alone!

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 9:13 PM

I’ll put money on McShame, er, McPain, ah there I go again, McCain being the whiner.

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 9:14 PM

Now . . . keep a close eye on those shyster politcos lest the try to slip another sham in under the radar. Vigilance!

rplat on June 7, 2007 at 9:14 PM

Now that this shamnesty non-sense is over, let’s talk fence. Thirty foot tall, 2,000 mile long concrete FENCE.

Zorro on June 7, 2007 at 9:15 PM

As someone said earlier, we should make a point of thanking those senators who helped knock this down–and then remind them that they should start enforcing the laws we already have–PRONTO.

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 9:16 PM

Given the amount of idiocy going back and forth between Reid and McConnell, I don’t see how they can accomplish anything. It’s like tryign to herd cats.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:18 PM

Yeah, I’d like to thank those “7 courageous Republicans” too. How about an early retirement?

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 9:19 PM

“In the history books are written”. Jeez. Someone get Reid off the stage. Where’s the cane?

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:20 PM

If they’re this stupid, we shouldn’t have any problem defeating it next time around. They’re complete morons. Saying the same thing over and over again.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:20 PM

IrishEi on June 7, 2007 at 9:19 PM

Whad’dya say we Americans team together, and buy them houses in Tijuana? They’d fit in well, there.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:21 PM

Dingy Harry just said he’ll get it back in in a few weeks.

Also, who are these fictional Mexicans Harry keeps talking about? He’s worried that they didn’t get to go to college or something.

Also, the Republican leader mentioned that there have been 37 votes for cloture this year already by Democrats. Last year it was like 15. The year before at this time it was 9, and the year before that at this time it was 2.

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:21 PM

Jim Beam speaks.

abinitioadinfinitum on June 7, 2007 at 9:21 PM

T3
Ted – T-Shirt – Tiajuana

400lb Gorilla on June 7, 2007 at 9:22 PM

Dingy Harry just said he’ll get it back in in a few weeks.

Which means we need to get to work immediately. Phone calls, emails, faxes, anything and everything.

On a side note, Kennedy seems more reasonable than Reid on this issue.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:22 PM

How about when Harry Reid said, “President Bush, this can be YOUR bill. I don’t want it to be my bill. Noone wants it to be their bill. It can be yours!”

How true, Harry, how true.

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:23 PM

and I broke the law because I was drunk and should not have been driving.

Will someone please shut that windbag up.

F15Mech on June 7, 2007 at 9:23 PM

Ted isn’t getting it. He said “20,000 resident aliens have served in the military”. What does that have to do with illegal aliens? We’ve got no problem with legal aliens.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:24 PM

Now is the time to take note of those Senator’s who approved and condoned this liberal bill. Those evil pettifoggers need to be recalled or lose the next election in a big way. The people have spoken! Get the hell out!

Grouper on June 7, 2007 at 9:24 PM

Damn why didn’t anybody tell me y’all moved?
Well actually F15 mech did.

LakeRuins on June 7, 2007 at 9:25 PM

Harry Reid also said the vast majority of people outside of the Senate Floor are for the bill. What papers is he reading? La Raza?

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:25 PM

Looks like the architect for the McCain Presidential Library just got fired.

Limerick on June 7, 2007 at 9:26 PM

Specter is living in an alternate universe.

LakeRuins on June 7, 2007 at 9:27 PM

Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment on the McShame-Swimmer-Bush-Reid-Kyl-Graham (am I missing any major players?) Amnesty Bill

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 9:27 PM

Democrats were wrong but Republicans were wronger….Sen Specter R?-PA

LakeRuins on June 7, 2007 at 9:28 PM

I don’t know about the architect, Limerick, but I bet he’s rethinking the labor costs.

Spirit of 1776 on June 7, 2007 at 9:28 PM

Senator Specter just invoked the “if anyone has a better idea, let’s hear it” phrase.

Apparently he dosen’t read hotair.com

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:28 PM

Who’s the moron speaking now?

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:30 PM

What papers is he reading? La Raza?

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:25 PM

This bill wasn’t good enough for La Razza. on the other end, go figure

abinitioadinfinitum on June 7, 2007 at 9:30 PM

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:28 PM

Nor did he watch the debates the other night when John said the same thing.

F15Mech on June 7, 2007 at 9:30 PM

Ken Salazar D-CO

LakeRuins on June 7, 2007 at 9:30 PM

Who’s the moron speaking now?

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:30 PM

A very HARD WORKER

abinitioadinfinitum on June 7, 2007 at 9:30 PM

Senator Specter just invoked the “if anyone has a better idea, let’s hear it” phrase.

Apparently he dosen’t read hotair.com

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:28 PM

What else do you expect from Scottish Law?

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 9:32 PM

Ken Salazar is an idiot moron tool
who is Kennedy’s Lap dog
and by the way he bl**ws dead dogs as well
CSPAN is killing me

400lb Gorilla on June 7, 2007 at 9:32 PM

Apparently he dosen’t read hotair.com

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:28 PM

Or watch the Republican debate.

Salazar (D-Col) just said “failure is not an option” on the immigration bill. How about he invokes that on the Iraq war?

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:32 PM

Specter I have a number of better ideas.
but right now the best idea is Bite Me

400lb Gorilla on June 7, 2007 at 9:32 PM

Mr Salazar if AG jobs are so important why did this bill address college benefits for illegals but I didn’t see anything in it about helping the family farmer?

LakeRuins on June 7, 2007 at 9:33 PM

I am sitting here devouring a Porterhouse. Gee I was counting on having an amnesty bill crammed down my throat. Good thing I had a back up. te hee hee I hope Linsey Graham realizes his azz now belongs to LaRaza. They own his soul.

sonnyspats1 on June 7, 2007 at 9:34 PM

Senator Specter just invoked the “if anyone has a better idea, let’s hear it” phrase.

Apparently he dosen’t read hotair.com

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:28 PM

That one got me to yell at my TV “People have offered all sorts of solutions, you people just don’t care to listen!”

dead-duck on June 7, 2007 at 9:34 PM

They can sit here and congratulate one another all they want. They blinked. We won’t. We’ll be even more organized next time around.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:35 PM

They can sit here and congratulate one another all they want. They blinked. We won’t. We’ll be even more organized next time around.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:35 PM

You got it

F15Mech on June 7, 2007 at 9:36 PM

Salazar bites. He is a racist who is more concerned with Mexicans than Americans. I have met him and not only do I speak better spanish than him but I can speak Chinese as well. He was a crap lawyer who is now a crap senator simply because the Republican party in CO has been totally useless the last few elections.

400lb Gorilla on June 7, 2007 at 9:36 PM

What else do you expect from Scottish Law?

steveegg on June 7, 2007 at 9:32 PM

Yeah as in Dewars?

sonnyspats1 on June 7, 2007 at 9:36 PM

They don’t want the simple solutions. They are lawyers and unless it covers 100 pages with tons of ink and more damn clauses and wherefore and whereas the party ofo the third part language well it just ain’t a good bill doncha know.
Like many others have said let’s enforce4 the current laws. We don’t need no stinkin new ones.

LakeRuins on June 7, 2007 at 9:37 PM

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:35 PM

And we need to start immediately.

amerpundit on June 7, 2007 at 9:37 PM

They can sit here and congratulate one another all they want. They blinked. We won’t. We’ll be even more organized next time around.

PRCalDude on June 7, 2007 at 9:35 PM

You got that right.

Vincenzo on June 7, 2007 at 9:37 PM

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