NASA chief steps in global warming goo
posted at 11:59 am on June 6, 2007 by Bryan
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Mike Griffin was a breath of fresh air when he took the reins at NASA in 2005. Coming out of the aerospace industry, Griffin seemed like the perfect choice to head up an agency that was struggling to find its way after the Columbia disaster and the lackluster leadership of adminstrator Sean O’Keefe.
Earlier this week, Griffin should have earned even more respect from anyone paying attention to NASA. He expressed doubt about the global warming “consensus”. He has since expressed regret, not for saying what he believes, but for wading into a political debate.
NASA administrator Michael Griffin said in the closed-door meeting Monday at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena that “unfortunately, this is an issue which has become far more political than technical, and it would have been well for me to have stayed out of it.”
“All I can really do is apologize to all you guys…. I feel badly that I caused this amount of controversy over something like this,” he said.
Some scientists are rallying around the NASA chief:
“NASA’s top administrator, Michael Griffin, speaking on NPR radio made some refreshingly sensible comments about the present global warming scare,” said Robert Ferguson, Director of the Science and Public Policy Institute. “Many rationalist scientists agree with him, clearly demonstrating there is no scientific consensus on man-made, catastrophic global warming,” said Ferguson.
Griffin said he doubted global warming is “a problem we must wrestle with,” and that it is arrogant to believe that today’s climate is the best we could have and that “we need to take steps to make sure that it doesn’t change.”
While NASA scientist, James Hansen, was sharply critical of his boss, other scientists from around the world came to Griffin’s support.
Said Dr. Walter Starck, an Australian marine scientist, “Griffin makes an important distinction between the scientific findings of climate change and dramatic predictions of catastrophic consequences accompanied by policy demands. The former can be evaluated by its evidence, but; the latter rest only on assertions and claims to authority. Alternate predictions of benefits from projected changes have been proposed with comparable authority and plausibility. For example, unless one chooses to define the Little Ice Age as “normal” and “optimal” the net effect of any warming has only been beneficial and any anthropogenic contribution very small indeed. Dramatic predictions of imminent disaster have a near perfect record of failure. Griffin’s note of caution in the escalating concern over climate change deserves sober consideration.
Another Australian, who testified before a Senate panel last year, Professor Robert Carter, observed, “My main reaction to Michael Griffin is to congratulate him on his clear-sightedness, not to mention his courage in speaking out on such a controversial topic.”
Perspective: Griffin is NASA’s top guy, and NASA (along with NOAA, as James pointed out in comments) is probably the government agency that knows more about the climate than any other through its constellation of earth-watching satellites. Dr. Griffin is not a climatologist, but then again neither are Al Gore, Laurie David or most of the people running around like Chicken Little warning that the sky is falling.
Unlike them, Griffin is in a position to know the science first-hand.
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JayHaw Phrenzie on June 6, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Griffin inadvertently gives an excellent overview of the entire Global Warming debate: unfortunately, this is an issue which has become far more political than technical
We are having solutions to Global Warming forced upon us when many do not believe that the facts support them. We need more rational, technical analysis and discussion rather than those using ecology as a political tool to get what they want. Sometimes I think that those of Gore’s ilk get a breeze running thru their heads, in one ear and out the other, and they latch on to an idea by a method that is anybody’s guess, and try to force it on everyone else.
omegaram on June 6, 2007 at 12:05 PM
Darn! I just pre-ordered air-conditioned loafers from The Sharper Image for nothing!
Shy Guy on June 6, 2007 at 12:09 PM
I would put NOAA up as NASA’s equal for government agencies that know the most about the climate…they actually study it (of course, using satellites).
Otherwise, good point.
James on June 6, 2007 at 12:10 PM
3 C words that drive me nuts every time I hear them:
Comprehensive
Compassionate
and
Concensus
Are we still against the banning of words?
Zetterson on June 6, 2007 at 12:12 PM
Yeah, NOAA is probably NASA’s equal on the subject. That’s a good point.
Bryan on June 6, 2007 at 12:12 PM
It’s sad when someone who is qualified on a topic has to regret expressing a technically-accurate opinion… I don’t think NPR had him there for his personal view of the issue.
rightg33k on June 6, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Well, I never! How dare the NASA chief disagree with Al Gore! Who does he think he is, questioning the Messiah?
amerpundit on June 6, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Okay – So Griffin has to express regrets for “wading into a political debate”.
Doesn’t this mean that Hansen should do the same thing and immediately cease spreading his global warming crap to the public? If I was the director of NASA I would demand that he cease and desist or be fired!
OBX Pete on June 6, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Good call, Bryan. The annoying part of this — ok, one of the annoying parts — is that it is now being suggested that he is apologizing for his remarks. Of course, that’s not at all what he’s doing. He apologized in a “closed door meeting” with top officials at the jet propulsion lab for publicly commenting on a politically sensitive issue which might have sprayed on others at NASA.
Big difference.
FWIW, I loved the clarity of his original comments.
Jaibones on June 6, 2007 at 12:31 PM
Unfortunately, that’s the attitude that got us into this mess -scientists staying out of the politics and just sticking with reporting their scientific findings in scientific journals, leaving politicians and journalists to spin the results in whatever manner is convenient.
I understand the need to keep the science and politics separate for the most part, but there comes a time when the scientist do need to step forward. Politicians and journalists declared a concensus and sold it to the public based on a very small number of vocal scientists (Hansen being one).
Griffin should not apologize for speaking the scientific “truth to power”. He stated the fact that there is a lack of scientific evidence to support the conclusion that global warming is a crisis that needs an immediate solution. If the politicians, journalists and (some) other scientists don’t like that, that’s just too bad. Come back when you have actual evidence to back your hypothesis. A major part of being a scientist is recognizing when the data does not support/prove the conclusion (as opposed to simply being consistent with the conclusion) and point that out.
Its good to see that more and more scientists in the relavent fields are finally coming forward to correct the public’s misperception.
taznar on June 6, 2007 at 12:33 PM
As I understand it, the climatologists arent sure how much globalony warming is natural; how then can they even begin to guestimate how much is man made?!?!
mrfixit on June 6, 2007 at 12:37 PM
Regarding Hansen:
They tried that once before -Google “nasa scientist gagged” and you’ll see Hansen’s name all over the place. For someone being silenced by the Bush adminsistration, he sure has an annoying habit of continuously showing up in the MSM.
taznar on June 6, 2007 at 12:44 PM
Well put taznar – the above quote is the bottom line to the whole controversy. These clowns have spent billions of dollars of our money to try and prove a theory that they have invented. If what they say is true (the final consensus) then all money for climate change study should ne stopped immediately.
OBX Pete on June 6, 2007 at 12:49 PM
As Cybercast News Service previously reported, Hansen publicly endorsed Democrat John Kerry for president in 2004 and received a $250,000 grant from the charitable foundation headed by Kerry’s wife.
Maxx on June 6, 2007 at 1:15 PM
Yeah, Hansen was the one during the last election always claiming he was being silenced by the Bush Administration. He loudly proclaimed how he was silenced on every talk show he was on (pretty on the whole circuit), he proclaimed being silenced in his two published books on the subject and decried how he was silenced in the numerous articles he wrote.
Some silence.
Yet, it is Gore stating that the media should not air any opinions counter to his own….
Faith1 on June 6, 2007 at 1:40 PM
Pope Gore must’ve threatened excommunication!
infidel4life on June 6, 2007 at 1:51 PM
Fire Griffin. This is NASA’s equivalent of “Happy Headed Ho’s”.
Wade on June 6, 2007 at 1:52 PM
Commonality, between NOAA and NASA, they both compete for tax dollars.
Making GW a hysterical public scare, drives politicization of the subject and knee-jerk reactions. Hanson has figured that out.
Kini on June 6, 2007 at 2:34 PM
The golden quote of the year. Can’t be stated often enough.
right2bright on June 6, 2007 at 2:52 PM
And asking for others to be silenced.
right2bright on June 6, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Ah, what does he know?
It’s not like he’s a rocket scientist or something.
What? Oh? Oops.
Well … it’s not like he’s Al Gore or Rosie O’Donnell or something. I mean, those are the experts. They’re on TV and everything.
Professor Blather on June 6, 2007 at 3:40 PM
I disagree Kini, I think Hanson is a “bought and paid for” global warming avocate just like Al Gore.
Maxx on June 6, 2007 at 3:46 PM
Maxx, I think the key phrase is “bought and paid for”. They get their funding through tax dollars and congress approves those funds. He may be an advocate and may actually believes in GW, but he’s savvy enough to know dollars will be spent studying this phenomena. So what better way to secure your employment long term than to throw money at the problem. That’s my point, what other government agency, NOAA and NASA are qualified to study GW’ing? You don’t think Hanson hasn’t seen a Gravy Train here? It’s too hard to justify sending men and robots to the moon and mars, this is much more easier to secure funds and is prominent in the public eye. You don’t have to justify the reason, just feed off the hysteria.
Kini on June 6, 2007 at 4:22 PM
Good point! And also notice that no matter what the claim… whether the globe is getting hotter or the globe is getting cooler or the climate is simply “changing” the culprit is ALWAY carbon dioxide.
This carbon dioxide is some very amazing stuff, it is far less than one percent of the atmosphere and “man-made” carbon dioxide is less than one percent of, that one percent. Yet that .0001 of the atmosphere can cause dramatic heating or cooling or just this terrible “climate change” as Al Gore is constantly claiming.
So why is it always…. always….. always the fault of carbon dioxide? Especially when any climate expert or novice would tell you that it is a minor gas and insignificant compared to water vapor for any type of atmospheric warming?
Well, a reporter once ask Willy Horton why he robbed banks…. and he said “Because that’s where the money is.”
And indeed carbon dioxide is “where the money is” because no business can exist without producing some carbon dioxide. Of course carbon dioxide is what everybody exhales and is actually beneficial to the planet because that is what plant life needs in order to “breath.”
But carbon dioxide MUST be made the culprit because it is the unavoidable byproduct of burning any type of fuel (except hydrogen). If they want the money and the control over business and people, and they do …. then the culprit MUST be carbon dioxide. Nothing else will do.
Maxx on June 6, 2007 at 4:24 PM
Who ya gonna believe? The head of NASA or a hack politician who barely squeaked through college with a Gentleman’s C?
Tantor on June 6, 2007 at 6:04 PM
You left out that Algore was a divinity school dropout. That has to count for something.
Mojave Mark on June 6, 2007 at 8:44 PM
I seem to recall something about “the next ice age” being a threat about 20 or so years ago. Do we have to go through global warming first? Maybe we should all go to Al’s house. I’m sure he has both a/c and heat. We can wait for the global pleasant cycle to kick in. I’ll bring the bbq…..
sMack on June 6, 2007 at 9:18 PM
Dramatic predictions of imminent disaster have a near perfect record of failure
The golden quote of the year. Can’t be stated often enough.
right2bright on June 6, 2007 at 2:52 PM
Excellent quote, I’ll have to remember that one.
omegaram on June 6, 2007 at 10:59 PM
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