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Open thread: Republican presidential debate; Update: Giuliani video added; Update: Highlight reel added

posted at 6:34 pm on June 5, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Second verse, same as the first: 7 p.m. ET, St. Anselm’s College, live on CNN. Tonight’s subplots:

1. Amnesty, amnesty, amnesty. St. John will go on the offensive before anyone can put him on the defensive, although Mitt and Tancredo are sure going to try. Will Bush come in for criticism, even if only for his rhetoric? House Republicans have given the green light.

2. Giuliani vs. Paul, round two. Will Rudy duck him? Or will he take a certain someone’s advice and throw Adam Gadahn’s list of demands in his sneering face?

3. The man who wasn’t there. In addition to his surge in the Rasmussen and Survey USA polls, Fred’s even with Giuliani in Pew’s new survey and ahead of the field in the InTrade prediction market for the Republican nomination. He also picked up an endorsement from Bob Corker today and will have the number-three Republican in the House, wunderkind Adam Putnam, working for him in Florida. Hannity’s having him on immediately after the debate ends so let’s see if any of the candidates take their chance to land a preemptive shot or two. If anyone does, I’ll bet it’s McCain (obliquely), their friendship notwithstanding.

4. Libby’s sentencing. Fred was on the steering committee of Libby’s defense fund and is on record as saying he’d pardon him immediately. (It’s in the first clip here, right at the beginning.) Today’s news is a perfect peg for Wolf Blitzer to introduce Thompson’s name into the debate by asking the field if they agree with him or, rather, with Bush, who says he feels “terrible” for Libby but won’t be springing him anytime soon.

I suspect MM will be liveblogging it but I’m not sure yet. No doubt we’ll have video updates, including/especially as regards Fred’s reaction afterwards on H&C. Comments are open…

Update: There was a question earlier in the evening about what the candidates would do if Petraeus came back in September and said the surge wasn’t working. Giuliani didn’t get a chance to answer, so he answered during the Q&A later in the evening. Sort of.


Update: Ian has video of Mike Huckabee offering his opinion of Fred Thompson before the debate.

Update: Here’s a short highlight reel from the first hour. It includes the part where Rudy incurs the wrath of god during his answer about criticism from Catholics about abortion.


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Slublog, watch it on line. I am:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:48 PM

slublog, hit cnn.com for the web feed

TexasDan on June 5, 2007 at 7:48 PM

Yeah, Limerick has a more direct link.

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:48 PM

I’m a Evangelical, and I liked Romney’s answer there.

nailinmyeye on June 5, 2007 at 7:48 PM

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 7:47 PM

Long answer: Well, depends. Your question really all depends on which question is asked of which candidate. If McCain is asked one question, it might make sense. However, if some other candidate is asked the same question, it may not.

Short answer: Yes.

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 7:49 PM

Limerick – thanks. I was looking for the link on the homepage and couldn’t find it.

I see Wolfie is still smarmy.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 7:49 PM

Wow, Republicans refusing to back down on their own beliefs.

I’m getting excited about ‘08.

But I still want someone to tell Wolf “Your mother.”

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:49 PM

Here we go……….

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:49 PM

Rudy Rudy Rudy! Gorebal warming……….

Limerick on June 5, 2007 at 7:50 PM

Dangit Rudy!!

Sell out. He knows this isn’t so. Hannity has him on regularly and noboy is more anti global warming than Hannity. THis is crap.

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:50 PM

McCain looks bored and twitchy.

And the audio sucks.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 7:51 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOO Mitt!!!

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:51 PM

Not one of them is standing up for captialism….WTF!

rslancer14 on June 5, 2007 at 7:52 PM

I am more impressed by Romney with every answer.

186k on June 5, 2007 at 7:52 PM

Wolf seems to try to stop their answers when they get on a roll.

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:52 PM

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:50 PM

I agree. We should be energy independent. Like Rudy said, otherwise we’re paying our enemies.

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 7:53 PM

Except that last one..Ooops!

186k on June 5, 2007 at 7:53 PM

I like energy independent, but lets not coat it in Al Goreism!

Spirit of 1776 on June 5, 2007 at 7:53 PM

oh dear lord they’re following hillary’s lead on taking the oil profits.

TexasDan on June 5, 2007 at 7:53 PM

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:52 PM

Yeah

Spirit of 1776 on June 5, 2007 at 7:53 PM

Wait…is McCain saying that oil company profits should be invested in nuclear power? Weird transition.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 7:53 PM

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:52 PM

The other thing is, what’s with these questions?

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 7:53 PM

The “obscene profits” of oil companies is a myth!! The taxes they endure cut their profit margin out from under them. These men all know this.

If Fred! tells the truth about global warming and oil profits, he has my vote. Any man who will not tell the truth is not worthy of the presidency.

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Well, heck. Ron Paul made all sorts of sense defending capitalism there.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Ron Paul, “That’s a very interesting question. Let me tie it into how machiavellian hubris in the Middle East!”

Lehosh on June 5, 2007 at 7:54 PM

It pi$$es me off that they asked Romney about his religion–AGAIN. This is America, isn’t it? People are free to worship as they choose. Mormons are not running around beheading people. Idiots.

Why didn’t they ask Obama about his church and its arguably racist mission statement.

IrishEi on June 5, 2007 at 7:54 PM

How can oil companies reinvest profits that the government takes from them?

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:55 PM

What is with the Paul-cam? He is getting more air time than the other 2/3-tier candidates.

BlueStateBlues on June 5, 2007 at 7:55 PM

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Not just that, but the media looks at actual dollar figures, not profit percentage. The percentage of profit oil companies make is relatively low for how much they spend.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 7:55 PM

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Let’s be real. The profits these CEOs make, while charging us huge, and keeping the same number of refinaries, are more than all of us will ever make in our lives – together.

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 7:56 PM

Wow, Ron Paul made sense twice!….

DwnSouthJukin on June 5, 2007 at 7:56 PM

Ok Ok… on the Gay in Military question Ron Paul deserved that applause.

Lehosh on June 5, 2007 at 7:56 PM

how can paul be so right half the time and completely insane the other half? great answer on the rights question…

TexasDan on June 5, 2007 at 7:56 PM

Wow. Ron Paul is completely hit-or-miss.

By Ron Paul’s logic, racism is nullified by the Constitution.

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Wolf is a nitwit.

rslancer14 on June 5, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Wolfie…it’s not about you.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Russia – a country looking to start another Cold War with us – made $500 billion last year from oil. Middle Eastern countries we’re on the verge of war with, are most likely buying their weapons with the money we spend at the pump.

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 7:58 PM

Criminy frickin crud. Is this really the most important issue in America?

Shut up, Wolfie.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 7:58 PM

Rudy is a weasel….

DwnSouthJukin on June 5, 2007 at 7:58 PM

ameripundit,

True, true. But compare those profits to that of technology company CEOs. The CEO of Intel makes waaaay more green than any oil company CEO.

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:58 PM

DwnSouthJukin on June 5, 2007 at 7:56 PM

A new record. He’s either dead on, or Truther-crazy.

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 7:59 PM

So gay troops should be allowed to me married, Mitt?

Valiant on June 5, 2007 at 7:59 PM

Brownback jumps the podium and tackles Wolf in 3…2….1…

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:59 PM

so the whole gay question was drug out of romney’s position in 94?

TexasDan on June 5, 2007 at 8:00 PM

Mitt and Rudy are correct. You don’t rock the boat during war.

You want to address gays in the millitary, do it after we win the war.

Let’s be honest, this question is bait for Kos to blog about tomorrow.

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 8:01 PM

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 7:58 PM

Oh, I agree. However, your and my getting to work doesn’t really depend on tech companies putting money back into their industry.

DwnSouthJukin on June 5, 2007 at 7:58 PM

Why?

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 8:01 PM

GW Bush should be ambassador to Mexico.

Valiant on June 5, 2007 at 8:01 PM

Tommy Thompson sucks. That joke bombed.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 8:01 PM

the questions are getting worse.

TexasDan on June 5, 2007 at 8:02 PM

lol Valiant

Spirit of 1776 on June 5, 2007 at 8:02 PM

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 8:01 PM

Agreed.

BTW, are the candidates basically saying they’d put Bush out to pasture?

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 8:02 PM

LOL Tancredo got applause for saying he’d kick GWB to the curb! That makes me happy inside.

Lehosh on June 5, 2007 at 8:03 PM

Uh Ohoooo… Tancredo got a call from ROVE!!

186k on June 5, 2007 at 8:03 PM

Hunter handled every question excellently, so they quit asking him questions.

db on June 5, 2007 at 8:03 PM

Huckabee nailed that question.

Sammy316 on June 5, 2007 at 8:04 PM

tanc has got to be the smartest guy up there. taking the chance to distance himself from bush’s mistakes instead of rambling about public service..

TexasDan on June 5, 2007 at 8:04 PM

I would toss Bush his food after he’s out of office.
He may take an arm if you get too close.

unamused on June 5, 2007 at 8:04 PM

half of this debate should be on the War on Terror and Iraq….thanks for dumbing us down CNN

jp on June 5, 2007 at 8:04 PM

Huckabee is pretty impressive.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 8:04 PM

I can’t figure why Hunter doesn’t get traction.

Spirit of 1776 on June 5, 2007 at 8:04 PM

The Republican Party failed because they believed they could run big government better than the people. That is what Dems believe, too.

Valiant on June 5, 2007 at 8:05 PM

PARDON SCOOTER..PARDON SCOOTER..PARDON SCOOTER..

186k on June 5, 2007 at 8:05 PM

Rudy …Nice Job on the Pardon Scooter question.

186k on June 5, 2007 at 8:06 PM

Rudy!

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 8:06 PM

Evolution, Gorbal warming, gays in the military, Scooter Libby, what is Bush going to do for you….

this has nothing to enlighten the Repulicans across the country. This is for sound bites on Dkos.

Limerick on June 5, 2007 at 8:06 PM

Libby should be pardoned! Get over it, Wolfe!

SouthernGent on June 5, 2007 at 8:07 PM

“Yes or No?” What is this, kindergarten?

Shut up, Wolfie.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 8:07 PM

Wolf is an idiot.

infidel4life on June 5, 2007 at 8:08 PM

Larry King, Oh GOD

186k on June 5, 2007 at 8:08 PM

These questions are so poor, so stupid.

EnochCain on June 5, 2007 at 8:08 PM

3 mins….time to hit the twelve pack

Limerick on June 5, 2007 at 8:08 PM

Anderson Cooper and Larry King?

Oh, this just keeps getting better.

Does this mean Wolf go away, though?

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 8:09 PM

LARRY KING IS DEAD! THATS NOT THE REAL LARRY KING! THE REAL LARRY KING’S BODY IS BEING TESTED IN A LAB TO FIGURE OUT HOW HUMAN FROG CAN GET A WIFE THAT HOT!!!!

WARN THE WORLD TRUTHERS!!!!

DwnSouthJukin on June 5, 2007 at 8:10 PM

Leave it to CNN to go to a Dem website for reax.

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 8:10 PM

Republican debate = huevos onstage (for the most part).

Democrat debate = wussies onstage.

infidel4life on June 5, 2007 at 8:11 PM

Sweet…Power-Line tho’

Spirit of 1776 on June 5, 2007 at 8:12 PM

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 8:09 PM

I’m praying.

So, is John King saying that Republicans attack each other less?

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 8:12 PM

Hey, CNN is monitoring the blogs.

I’ve got an idea – how about getting rid of Wolfie?

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 8:13 PM

So, the Republicans can be humorous, and the Democrats are a bunch of stuffed up suits.

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 8:13 PM

Gotta love Tancredo’s answer to a yes or no question. (especially since it was the right answer!)
“Yes.”

JEFF_IN_NC on June 5, 2007 at 8:14 PM

At least CNN filtered their audience questions to just Republicans…

Lehosh on June 5, 2007 at 8:14 PM

Here comes the set up……….

Sammy316 on June 5, 2007 at 8:15 PM

Was it just me, or did that audience question sound rehearsed.

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 8:15 PM

Sweet mother of Buddha, they set this one up, didn’t they?

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 8:16 PM

yup. funny that she sat by the aisle.

TexasDan on June 5, 2007 at 8:16 PM

Slublog on June 5, 2007 at 8:16 PM

She phrased it the way no one who pulled it off the top of their head would.

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 8:17 PM

Very coincidental… But you must admit the answeres will separate the men from the boys.

JEFF_IN_NC on June 5, 2007 at 8:17 PM

Hunter is near perfect on foreign policy questions.

jp on June 5, 2007 at 8:18 PM

Oh, good God. McCain sit down.

amerpundit on June 5, 2007 at 8:18 PM

partition………..CSA….ooops CSI…

Limerick on June 5, 2007 at 8:18 PM

McCain + Straight Talk = oxymoron.

JEFF_IN_NC on June 5, 2007 at 8:18 PM

I like the “Ah-huh” nod from the lady in red who lost her brother.

SouthernGent on June 5, 2007 at 8:18 PM

McCain just cleared the bases

Limerick on June 5, 2007 at 8:19 PM

Someone needs to ask the democrat party that question. Oh, wait…Ron Paul is answering…nevermind.

SouthernGent on June 5, 2007 at 8:20 PM

No joke.

Spirit of 1776 on June 5, 2007 at 8:20 PM

I love that the lefties love this Paul guy…
“Setting good standards.” “Speaking good plattitudes.”

JEFF_IN_NC on June 5, 2007 at 8:20 PM

Pretty much a knock off homer for McCain

flyboy777 on June 5, 2007 at 8:20 PM

Ron Paul reverts back to moonbat.

Sammy316 on June 5, 2007 at 8:21 PM

Paul beneath contempt

Limerick on June 5, 2007 at 8:21 PM

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