Open thread: Republican presidential debate; Update: Giuliani video added; Update: Highlight reel added

posted at 6:34 pm on June 5, 2007 by Allahpundit

Second verse, same as the first: 7 p.m. ET, St. Anselm’s College, live on CNN. Tonight’s subplots:

1. Amnesty, amnesty, amnesty. St. John will go on the offensive before anyone can put him on the defensive, although Mitt and Tancredo are sure going to try. Will Bush come in for criticism, even if only for his rhetoric? House Republicans have given the green light.

2. Giuliani vs. Paul, round two. Will Rudy duck him? Or will he take a certain someone’s advice and throw Adam Gadahn’s list of demands in his sneering face?

3. The man who wasn’t there. In addition to his surge in the Rasmussen and Survey USA polls, Fred’s even with Giuliani in Pew’s new survey and ahead of the field in the InTrade prediction market for the Republican nomination. He also picked up an endorsement from Bob Corker today and will have the number-three Republican in the House, wunderkind Adam Putnam, working for him in Florida. Hannity’s having him on immediately after the debate ends so let’s see if any of the candidates take their chance to land a preemptive shot or two. If anyone does, I’ll bet it’s McCain (obliquely), their friendship notwithstanding.

4. Libby’s sentencing. Fred was on the steering committee of Libby’s defense fund and is on record as saying he’d pardon him immediately. (It’s in the first clip here, right at the beginning.) Today’s news is a perfect peg for Wolf Blitzer to introduce Thompson’s name into the debate by asking the field if they agree with him or, rather, with Bush, who says he feels “terrible” for Libby but won’t be springing him anytime soon.

I suspect MM will be liveblogging it but I’m not sure yet. No doubt we’ll have video updates, including/especially as regards Fred’s reaction afterwards on H&C. Comments are open…

Update: There was a question earlier in the evening about what the candidates would do if Petraeus came back in September and said the surge wasn’t working. Giuliani didn’t get a chance to answer, so he answered during the Q&A later in the evening. Sort of.

Update: Ian has video of Mike Huckabee offering his opinion of Fred Thompson before the debate.

Update: Here’s a short highlight reel from the first hour. It includes the part where Rudy incurs the wrath of god during his answer about criticism from Catholics about abortion.


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Wait till the MSM start actually pinning Romney down on Mormonism, instead of letting him get away with generalities, and watch his numbers plummet.

Is the GOP above having a real debate, not these shallow fill-in-the-blanks stand up routines?

Halley on June 6, 2007 at 2:44 AM

Wait till the MSM start actually pinning Romney down on Mormonism, instead of letting him get away with generalities, and watch his numbers plummet.
Halley on June 6, 2007 at 2:44 AM

I agree. I hope they do before he gets the nomination. The last thing we need is to nominate a guy who can win the general just to watch him crash and burn and turn this country over to the traitorous dems.

Entelechy on June 6, 2007 at 12:32 AM

I completely understand that sentiment. A guy has to inspire, and when he doesn’t do it for you, you have to say so.

Peace and cheers.

csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 7:34 AM

According to Frank Luntz, Romney won the debate. His focus group went off the charts in support of Mitts! response to the Mormon question. Before the debate 6 of the group were favorable towards MITT!. Afterwards the support for MITT! was decidedly increased because of his ability to articulate his position and his wide ranging knowledge on all the issues.

Nice.

csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 9:06 AM

Question: Are Mormons conscientious objectors to military service?

If Mormons are objectors, then regrettably, I could never vote for one to serve as the Commander In Chief of US Armed Force.

And no, I do not believe it’s possible to go into the military and then if war comes, to object…a la The Erin Watada Ploy.

Montana on June 6, 2007 at 10:39 AM

Infowars douches harrass Giuliani’s posse in the spin room.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3dd_1181140608

fusionaddict on June 6, 2007 at 10:46 AM

Question: Are Mormons conscientious objectors to military service?

Montana on June 6, 2007 at 10:39 AM

You’re thinking the Quakers.

fusionaddict on June 6, 2007 at 10:47 AM

Question: Are Mormons conscientious objectors to military service?
If Mormons are objectors, then regrettably, I could never vote for one to serve as the Commander In Chief of US Armed Force.
And no, I do not believe it’s possible to go into the military and then if war comes, to object…a la The Erin Watada Ploy.
Montana on June 6, 2007 at 10:39 AM

Being one of the most widely persecuted of religions for many years, the LDS have a deep respect and feel deep obligations to this country and the rights that affords religious freedom. You will find many, many, military serving members.

Then again, the LDS have a sad chapter in their history.

I believe the movie “September Dawn” will begin the fervor for the neo-persecutors of the LDS faith to attack with a renewed greater hate and thusly the persecution of Mitt!. This will effectively eliminate him from contention.

csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Hey thanks guys. Despite growing up in a community with a strong Mormon population I didn’t know that. I do know that if I were to generalize about Mormons almost all of it would be good. Family values. Work Ethic. Law. Order. Respect.

Montana on June 6, 2007 at 7:14 PM

Well, I am surprised! I expect this kind of behavior from the non-candidate fred?, but say it ain’t so Rudy and John!

Avoiding a fight is complete chicken$hitery. hahaha Is that a word?

csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 10:54 PM

Your call…

Romney: Gay couples raising kids is the American way

Connie on June 7, 2007 at 12:04 AM

Connie on June 7, 2007 at 12:05 AM

For context, here’s the entire exchange. I’ll have to ask my gay friends if this quote engenders them to Mitt!. And I’ll have to ask my Christian friends if they would be happier if MITT! would have insulted the gal.

Did anyone see this poll showing fred? at #2 in Florida? What an insult that is to real candidates. It’s shameful.

csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 7:48 AM

Well, this poll looks good on the surface, but can interal polls REALLY be trusted?

If this bears up, old freddie boy will see what it looks like when substantive candidates open themselves up to discussion instead of trying to manufacturing an image to attract groupies. Look forward to a perfect analogy on the fred? thread.

OH SNAP!

csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 4:47 PM

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