Good news: Scarborough only meant to call Fred’s wife a stripper

posted at 10:27 am on June 5, 2007 by Allahpundit

Or something:

MSNBC spokesman Jeremy Gaines says that pretty much explains what happened. “A female triathlete had been discussing her exercise routine with Joe,” he said, and that routine includes a stripper’s pole. “That is the context in which the issue was discussed. To suggest otherwise is irresponsible.” When asked whether Jeri Kehn Thompson is owed an apology, Gaines declined to comment further.

So he meant to imply that she … exercises a lot? Here’s an experiment for you, fellas. Approach some woman you know at work today and say, “Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?” If she takes it as a compliment, Scarborough’s off the hook.

Meanwhile, Boston Herald columnist Margery Eagan, who devoted her last piece to the chestiness of aspiring Republican first ladies, comes back today with a little equal time.

Update: More sensitivity from the NBC crew. Although this one’s so stupid and schoolyard that it’s hard not to laugh.

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I guess I must not be ‘nuanced’ enough to separate broadcast public discourse from questions I wouldn’t ask of my mother.

James on June 5, 2007 at 10:39 AM

God, they sound like 12 year-olds. GMA? More like GAY-MA!!! Huh huh, huh huh huh… Though I don’t know if Beavis and ButtHead are as known or popular wit’ the yoots now as it was when I was about 12.

Bad Candy on June 5, 2007 at 10:40 AM

…although I do admit to something of a double standard where commenting on the internet is concerned.

James on June 5, 2007 at 10:41 AM

Gay-MA? Isn’t that somewhere near Provincetown?

AdrianG on June 5, 2007 at 10:42 AM

I was hoping Margery Eagan would mention the 2″ platform Hillary was standing on as well as the 4″ platform Kucinich was using. I look forward to a day, if she gets the nomination, when a tall conservative gets to stand next to her without her platform.

The Bush/Dukakis handshake. hahaha

csdeven on June 5, 2007 at 10:47 AM

Scarborough dodges a bullet. And Jeri is a Washington insider, so I’m sure she has heard much worse. Has she made any kind of statement on this yet? I wonder if fred? will threaten to take him out back and beat his a$$?

Gay-MA? It’s funny how the limo-liberals always expose themselves for seeing gays and other special interest groups as useful tools, yet these groups don’t seem to mind.

csdeven on June 5, 2007 at 11:03 AM

I’ve been wondering why I’ve been getting hits based on searches for Hillary and plastic surgery.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on June 5, 2007 at 11:07 AM

Here’s an experiment for you, fellas. Approach some woman you know at work today and say, “Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?” If she takes it as a compliment, Scarborough’s off the hook.

Do you want us to send in pictures of the black eye we get after we do so?

thirteen28 on June 5, 2007 at 11:07 AM

Here’s an experiment for you, fellas. Approach some woman you know at work today and say, “Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?”

I say that to women all the time and I have the bruises to prove it.

vcferlita on June 5, 2007 at 11:10 AM

I just asked my great looking neighbor down the hall if she ‘worked the pole’…I am sitting here waiting for the NYPD to get here…now, WTF do I do !

DoctorDentons on June 5, 2007 at 11:11 AM

“Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?” If she takes it as a compliment, Scarborough’s off the hook.

ROFL – line of the week from AP…

So I’m in New Hampshire for the Democrats’ debate Sunday, watching on two huge screens. The instant Hillary appears, the woman behind me whispers, “Oh look at Hillary. She’s had work done!”

Nah, she’s just been working the pole.

TheBigOldDog on June 5, 2007 at 11:11 AM

Margery Eagan is suffering from a new form of BDS, Breast Derangement Syndrome.

Showing cleavage is common fashion statement attire these days (I see it so much in my corporate life it makes me wonder about dress codes.) Stripper pole exercise routines and home “Tupperware” type parties for pole dancing instructions, stripper poles installed in Vegas hotel rooms via George Clooney/Matt Damon, “Future Pole Dancer” on young girls’ t-shirts – all stems from the pornofication of America.

Heh. Sounds like the Today show needs to go to sensitivity training or be fired a la Imus.

Brat on June 5, 2007 at 11:12 AM

Everyone who isn’t Fred suffers from poll envy.

saint kansas on June 5, 2007 at 11:12 AM

“the segment started off with the traffic and weather reporter, Tracy, talking about how she ‘works the pole’ for exercise to stay in shape. That topic continued for some time, and then Craig Crawford (contributing editor at CQ) came on, which is when Scarborough made this comment.” (The banter: Scarborough asks Crawford, “Have you seen Fred Thompson’s wife?” Crawford: “Oh yeah.” Scarborough: “You think she works the pole?”)

In all fairness to Scarborough, this context provides a small amount of mitigation, proving that the extant discussion indeed revolved around exercise when referring to “the pole”. But the schoolyard nature of the banter was still crass, and left plenty of room for implications of worse.

Freelancer on June 5, 2007 at 11:17 AM

Margery Eagan is suffering from a new form of BDS, Breast Derangement Syndrome.

Did you read the article because it sounded to me like you two would agree.

Showing cleavage is common fashion statement attire these days…..
Brat on June 5, 2007 at 11:12 AM

(Not that you’re advocating it), But Laura Bush will be happy to hear that. Now she can start showing off her goods as I am sure she always wanted to do. Especially when she was a Govs wife and young enough to make a real impression.

sarc off/

csdeven on June 5, 2007 at 11:28 AM

I would not put it past the Thompson’s to film a quick video spoof incorportating pole dancing and Scarboroughs voting record.
/Just saying

LakeRuins on June 5, 2007 at 11:29 AM

Approach some woman you know at work today and say, “Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?”

I just tried it. *sigh*

Anyone have any job openings?

BacaDog on June 5, 2007 at 11:33 AM

Ol’ Fred for President: Because he’ll stand firm with our ally Lech Kaczynski against the Neo-Stalinist Punk in Russia.

That’s what the twit meant by working the Pole, right?

Steve LLamabutcher on June 5, 2007 at 11:33 AM

So he meant to imply that she … exercises a lot? Here’s an experiment for you, fellas. Approach some woman you know at work today and say, “Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?” If she takes it as a compliment, Scarborough’s off the hook.

Yeah, I just can’t get worked up about this now that I’ve learned about the context (i.e., that the traffic girl had first brought up the “pole working” in the context of exercise). We have got to stop reinforcing this minefield mentality that makes every syllible uttered subject to such scrutiny. This was no big deal.

And I think it might be okay to make the approach you suggest above, provided that (a) at least one woman first brings up her own pole work and (b) everyone has a fundamental sense of humor (or at least an aversion to stick-up-the-butt syndrome).

Lighten up, people! Sometimes a pole is just a pole!

Kensington on June 5, 2007 at 11:35 AM

Did you read the article because it sounded to me like you two would agree.

Of course I read the article but it is more of a Republican hit piece than about fashion or societal trends. Eagan’s not a “fashion columnist” is she?

Laura Bush is of a different class than most women, choosing a classic wardrobe, but I have seen picks of her showing a little cleavage.

You tryin’ to pick a fight with me today, cs?

Brat on June 5, 2007 at 11:39 AM

“I was hoping Margery Eagan would mention the 2″ platform Hillary was standing on as well as the 4″ platform Kucinich was using.”

And since the “topic of the week” (so far) is defaming Presidential candidate’s wives, didyall notice that Dennis “the Red Menace” Kucinich’s so-called trophy wife is 6 feet tall and looms over him like a “mutt and jeff cartoon?”

Just askin’

georgej on June 5, 2007 at 11:55 AM

Here’s an experiment for you, fellas. Approach some woman you know at work today and say, “Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?” If she takes it as a compliment, Scarborough’s off the hook.

Heh. When we finally end up in our permanent residence, my g/f–who used to work in the clothing-removal industry before I met her–wants me to install a stripper pole in our bedroom. I can’t wait until the parents see that.

ReubenJCogburn on June 5, 2007 at 12:03 PM

clothing-removal industry
ReubenJCogburn on June 5, 2007 at 12:03 PM

ROFL! I won’t ask how you met her.

wearyman on June 5, 2007 at 12:20 PM

Approach some woman you know at work today and say, “Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?” If she takes it as a compliment, Scarborough’s off the hook.

Ok… sounds like a good plan…

* 10 minute delay *

Hmm, does “fired for sexually harassing my boss” count as a compliment?

gekkobear on June 5, 2007 at 12:34 PM

I like MKH’s take

Spirit of 1776 on June 5, 2007 at 12:36 PM

If I were Fred I’d go done there while Chuckie’s on the air and just b**chslap that idiot!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 5, 2007 at 12:42 PM

Yeah, Mary Katherine’s pretty much shut this down. Time to move on, methinks.

Blacklake on June 5, 2007 at 12:43 PM

June 5, 2007 — CHILDISH staffers at the “Today” show have been reduced to homophobic name-calling about their rivals at “Good Morning America” – Diane Sawyer, Chris Cuomo, Robin Roberts and Sam Champion. A network source says, ” ‘Today’ staffers, from top to bottom, executives to interns, refer to ‘GMA’ as ‘Gay-MA’ ” and snicker about the hosts. “GMA” has been gaining in the ratings on No. 1 “Today” and cut its lead in half. For their part, the “GMA” folks are said to refer to “Today” as “Yesterday.” Reps for both shows declined to comment

Are these adults they are talking about??

heatherrc77 on June 5, 2007 at 12:52 PM

Here’s an experiment for you, fellas. Approach some woman you know at work today and say, “Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?” If she takes it as a compliment, Scarborough’s off the hook.

If his comment was out of the blue that might be a good experiment. But I wonder what a gal at work would say if the same exact conversation was made?

Apples and apples, ya know?

csdeven on June 5, 2007 at 12:53 PM

You tryin’ to pick a fight with me today, cs?

Brat on June 5, 2007 at 11:39 AM

No. I was responding to your obvious conservative concern with the pornofication of america. Her column seemed to be a concern for the pornofication of the first lady. And, as we have seen, no one will defend that position even though they think breast exposure is okay.

csdeven on June 5, 2007 at 12:57 PM

georgej on June 5, 2007 at 11:55 AM

Yeah, I read that too, but I didn’t mention it because I have read many comments on HA referring to her as babelicious etc. I don’t remember where I read it, but even the author seemed to think that image was alright. I took that to mean that un first lady-ish dress was expected of liberal candidates wives.

csdeven on June 5, 2007 at 1:01 PM

Read and compare what Eagan wrote about Fred and his wife (paragraphs 5, 6, 7 )and Kucinich and his wife (last 3 paragraphs), and you will see that the article is a Republican hit piece.

Brat on June 5, 2007 at 1:07 PM

Here’s an experiment for you, fellas. Approach some woman you know at work today and say, “Hey, you look great. Do you work the pole?” If she takes it as a compliment, Scarborough’s off the hook.

HA! I just blew coffee out my nose!

ronsfi on June 5, 2007 at 1:13 PM

Whats this whacko trying to accomplish? HMM… Ha Ha He kind of resembles J.Edgar. Ha Ha What has this country come to?

sonnyspats1 on June 5, 2007 at 1:26 PM

Jeri Thompson’s blue dress looked better suited for the CMA’s. So a little fashion blunder can be corrected. She is sporting a nice pair of ta ta’s. Hey Jeri keep them puppies covered up. You’re getting people all aroused out here. What about the MSM attacking Justice Roberts children in a family photo at the Capital? These ae supposed to be mature professionals who we can turn to for our news and mabey a little guidance. Ha! Thats a laugh. Remember Jackilyn Kennedy in the White House? Man she did this Nation proud.

sonnyspats1 on June 5, 2007 at 1:44 PM

Is this an election or a beauty contest? Now if Fred were the one showing a little butt crack or wearing speedos that might be worth all the ink this has generated!

Bradky on June 5, 2007 at 1:48 PM

I’ve always wanted to be a pole worker.
I’ve had to take a courses on sexual harassment and diversity awareness, and I still waiting…., to be.

Huh, not that kinda pole you say…? Oh, poll….., there’s a difference?

I don’t see any difference between cleavage and a butt crack. Just can’t help not staring at it.

Kini on June 5, 2007 at 1:52 PM

Mmmm, trophy wife.

Nonfactor on June 5, 2007 at 3:01 PM

Brat on June 5, 2007 at 1:07 PM

I knew I read that somewhere. My impression was that it was an insult to the liberal because liberals are expected to be less modest and respectful of the office. Just like clenis was.

csdeven on June 5, 2007 at 4:11 PM

Why hasn’t he resigned?

Anil Petra on June 5, 2007 at 9:00 PM

Kensington has it just right.

Patterico on June 5, 2007 at 11:25 PM

He does? If some turd approached Mrs. Patterico and asked her if she works the pole, whatever the context, you wouldn’t mind?

It’s a nasty bit of innuendo, particularly given the fact that people are already sneering at Fred’s wife. See Omri Ceren’s piece in the post I wrote about this yesterday.

Allahpundit on June 5, 2007 at 11:28 PM

I don’t like Chris Matthews, but you’re not giving sufficient weight to the context.

Patterico on June 5, 2007 at 11:54 PM

(In my opinion.)

Patterico on June 6, 2007 at 12:46 AM

WTF? Why did I think we were talking about Chris Matthews?

Just sounds like something he’d say, I guess.

Patterico on June 6, 2007 at 12:48 AM

Anyway, I think the context pretty much exculpates Scarborough. Hell, it would even exculpate Chris Matthews — if he’d said it.

I’m going to bed now.

Patterico on June 6, 2007 at 12:49 AM