Fred’s campaign website launches; Update: H&C interview added; Update: Coulter unloads on Fred for impeachment vote; Update: Fred second nationally in internal poll
posted at 9:21 pm on June 5, 2007 by Allahpundit
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We’ve got video of his H&C interview coming. In the meantime, explore Fred!
Update: All right, here you go. The campaign, Iraq, Iran, and his first 100 days. Straight talk — to borrow a phrase.
Update: Fred’s own internal poll confirms the Rasmussen result from earlier today. Looks like he’s already in second for real.
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Well, now we have John Fund shilling for fred?. Can’t tell where his lips ended and freddie boys rear began. The world wide fred?? This dolt obviously doesn’t understand the demographics of the web community. John is occasionally pretty right on, but he missed the boat with freddie boy.
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 11:41 AM
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 11:41 AM
Somehow I am not surprised that you cannot actually engage in honest civil rational debate. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck has a watertight a$$hole like a duck, must be a damn liberal pretending to be a conservative.
doriangrey on June 6, 2007 at 11:50 AM
I am not supporting Fred! until…
…he has a serious interview.
What I love about H & C is the fact that Hannity does a great job at grinding liberals and Colmes conservatives, but when either interview for their “own,” they end up throwing softballs.
I’d like to see Fred! on Bill O’reilly (with Bill, not Michelle hosting) as well as some liberal stations on CNN and MSNBC (to test his fire).
I’m tired of the “photo-shopped Fred!” interviews. Lets heat up the fire some to see if there is some real gold underneath.
Darnell Clayton on June 6, 2007 at 12:18 PM
I can’t answer for the other excuses but I do know a former senatorial staffer that knows Fred personally and said 2 months ago that he would wait until July to announce. He knows the finance law and is using it to his advantage here.
You’re already predisposed to not liking him so I guess it really won’t make much difference to you either way.
bj1126 on June 6, 2007 at 12:28 PM
What is it about trolls and liberals that drives them to such transparent intellectual dishonesty? Is it their profound sense of personal superiority and complete lack of ethics that blinds them to the irrational unjustified vitriol they spew? How does one maintain the hypocritical delusion that that which is unacceptable in others is somehow acceptable when done by themselves.
Csdevens has not come to praise Fred, but to burry him. But we all know that Csdevens is an honorable man and honorable men seek not to cast aspersions on the character of those who would seek to do good.
After all Csdevens is an honorable man and no honorable man would cast a web of deceitful mischaracterizations on the reputation of a decent man. No an honorable man would never slander the character of another honorable man.
Knowing that Csdevens is just such an honorable man we can only conclude that his means is justified by the end that he seeks to provoke. Surely then his statements must be of the highest veracity for no honorable man would engage in prevarication to achieve his goal, and we know that Csdevens is an honorable man.
Let us then look with great fortitude upon these articles of impeachment cast forth by Csdeven upon the disreputable and dishonorable candidate Thompson without any shading of timidity lest we fearing the light of day find ourselves huddling in the shadows of inconsonant despair.
Where can we find such courageous men as to lead us to the path of reason and enlightenment whose forthright leadership shall prevent us becoming shipwrecked upon the shoals of deceit and moral abandon? But by the grace of god there stands before us an honorable man this Csdevens casting a guiding light stabbing out, yea even piercing into the heart of darkness with which we may find our way in these tumultuous times back to the safety and security of moral and ethical clarity.
Such is just the gift of an honorable man and Csdevens is an honorable man so let us revel in his gift to all of us and place in the light all questions of disreputable and dishonorable candidate Thompson who would lead us astray like children orphans having no parent to guide them.
doriangrey on June 6, 2007 at 12:38 PM
Same here. I like the guy and I want him to do well but I too will wait until he actually goes out and campaigns and contributes to a debate or two before I donate any money to him. If/when that happens, it’ll be the first time I’ve ever donated money to a politician.
Yakko77 on June 6, 2007 at 12:42 PM
I’m now a friend of Fred! and just sent him a small donation to show my support. As other commenters have stated here, I’ll wait until he’s been tested in the public eye before I send his campaign anything more substantial.
Regardless of who I end up supporting in the home stretch, the RNC won’t get a lousy dime from me.
Dave Shay on June 6, 2007 at 1:42 PM
None of that answers my comment so I wonder what your counter point is?
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 1:42 PM
Everyone of us should be signing up for Fred Thompson. He is the only true conservative and class to win this race.
Send your donations as well. I’m sending some c-notes.
msipes on June 6, 2007 at 2:07 PM
Classic! LOL
msipes on June 6, 2007 at 2:21 PM
In one corner:
Maverick, carrying water for libs, looking for a “good doggie” response, attacking passionate conservatives. Nice name calling there.
and in the other corner:
Coulter and supporters, chewing old soup. A phrase I don’t get to use often enough.
Yep, I’m calling it. Coulter is like a small elderly Jewish woman still upset over who dated her first boyfriend after they broke up. Endlessly regurgitating their greivences and re-eating the same mess over and over again.
I must be carrying water for libs. But maybe you could use some water yourself, that old soup has to be extra chewy by now.
I just hope the Libs are dumb enough to keep attacking GWB for as long as Coulter will continue to attack the Clenis.
But maybe Coulter will win, and Bill Clinton will finally be Impeached and removed from office… ?
gekkobear on June 6, 2007 at 2:22 PM
Might want to cancel that trip to Philippi CS….
ScottG on June 6, 2007 at 2:46 PM
Fred! raises $220,000 online in 18 hours.
P. James Moriarty on June 6, 2007 at 2:55 PM
I am in a quandary. A Catch-22, for sure.
Lawrence on June 6, 2007 at 2:56 PM
Ann’s looking really weak on her non-point…Fred’s going to Israel…another good move…wonder how the ‘liberals-cum-I’m really a conservative’ are going to spin it?
DCJeff on June 6, 2007 at 3:03 PM
Why is it a good move by fred? to go to Israel?
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 3:07 PM
What will we do ? Agree with Annie of course ! Ann is correct 100% of the time and she is absolutely correct about this too ! She took the words right out of my mouth when she said “Fred is better than the others,” BUT Fred is no Ronald Reagan, not even close. I checked out Fred’s voting record while he was in Congress and he was only at 86% in accordance with the American Conservative Union. That’s OK only, that is not great. And I was not aware of this support-Clinton vote he made and Ann is absolutely right, you got to have your doubts about him when he votes that way on such an important issue. That being said, if Fred gets the nomination, he will get my vote.
Maxx on June 6, 2007 at 3:07 PM
To scout out the Israeli positions on the economic/political/militarty issues in the region for his talking points later.
To encourage fund raising from the American Jewish community.
To demonstarate his interest in the region to the American voter.
P. James Moriarty on June 6, 2007 at 3:22 PM
I dunno, but the make-up sex will be HOT!
Iblis on June 6, 2007 at 3:38 PM
Demand more Coulter videos.
wryteacher on June 6, 2007 at 4:06 PM
Uh … you’re kidding, right? Maybe this is parody?
No offense, friend, but I’d gently suggest you re-evaluate whether its a good idea to insist that ANYBODY is 100% right 100% of the time.
If you truly believe that … yikes. No need for a brain then, huh? I think when AP used the term “Coulter-bot,” this is what he had in mind.
Independent, critical thought doesn’t hurt. Try it sometime.
Professor Blather on June 6, 2007 at 4:14 PM
Actually, the Coulter-Hate brigade is far more guilty of GroupThink than the “coulterbots”.
Look no further than the laughable open letter to CPAC to see “independent, critical thought”.
I like Fred, and I disagree with Ann on this point, but it is amazing how little excuse you Mavericks need to dump your hate on Ann.
JayHaw Phrenzie on June 6, 2007 at 4:30 PM
I don’t hate AC…..her style just rubs me the wrong way as I’m sure my style does her. She is croissants and I’m Cheetos, simple as that.
Limerick on June 6, 2007 at 5:04 PM
Would you guys vot for Fred if McCain Were his VP
Would you vote for McCain if Fred were his VP?
tomas on June 6, 2007 at 5:09 PM
Nope
Limerick on June 6, 2007 at 5:10 PM
So AC is against FT for some vote last millenium? That makes sense. I thought we were a forward looking party, not backwards looking.
lorien1973 on June 6, 2007 at 5:18 PM
I wonder if he’ll get a little red Yarmulke? This guy is just so transparently phoney.
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 5:20 PM
Yes. The VP is little more than a ceremonial position.
Hell no. I wouldn’t vote for McCain if I was his VP.
Hollowpoint on June 6, 2007 at 5:33 PM
Yeah, but fred? wants us to forget he has a past and pretend like he just dropped out of the sky to save the day.
Once he is a real candidate, he is going to have to answer for his record. He might as well get started trying to defend his weak, flip-flopping, faker history.
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Yes. What other choice would I have? A dem? I don’t think so.
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 5:44 PM
This from an ardent FlipFlop Mitt groupie. A dishonest troll anda hypocrite. Nice image you’ve built for yourself, troll.
Hollowpoint on June 6, 2007 at 5:54 PM
tomas, are you with Fred, too???
ricer1 on June 6, 2007 at 5:56 PM
I’m very gratified to see that in 18 hours, Fred’s raised 220,00. Off to add to the total.
And before cs jumps in with I have not right to comment — again — some of us work for a living.
Tennman on June 6, 2007 at 5:59 PM
…for example….? Serious question csdeven.
heatherrc77 on June 6, 2007 at 6:10 PM
heatherrc77 on June 6, 2007 at 6:10 PM
How dare you challenge the great and mighty Csdevens…….
doriangrey on June 6, 2007 at 6:14 PM
I know, I’m asking for it aren’t I…Still waiting for an answer……*Jeopardy music plays in background*
heatherrc77 on June 6, 2007 at 6:17 PM
csdeven, my errant conservative brother, I’m back to defend you against the slashing commentary of one doriangrey. . .
Dorian, I solemnly attest to the fact that CS is in fact a genuine conservative. Unfortunately, he’s a bit misguided when it comes to Fred! I’m faithfully working to win his heart over to Fred! however. So please stow your biting repartee – CS doesn’t deserve it. (Although your crack about a duck’s watertight @$$ drew a guffaw!)
We need to caringly show CS the error of his ways.
The Ritz on June 6, 2007 at 6:25 PM
heatherrc77 on June 6, 2007 at 6:17 PM
You’re not likely to get one, cs has a new strategy. He spews out lies and slander but refuses to acknowledge anyone crass or egregious enough to call him on it. Anyone who dare to provide documentation proving him wrong (which has been done numerous times now) simply gets ignored along with what ever documentation they provide while cs just keeps repeating his lies and slander.
doriangrey on June 6, 2007 at 6:29 PM
He must be starved for attention. Did his mommy not hug him enough as a child?
Come here csdeven, we will give you a big, giant e-hug! :)
heatherrc77 on June 6, 2007 at 6:31 PM
The Ritz on June 6, 2007 at 6:25 PM
On the contrary, anyone who so blithely and willingly engages in a campaign of lies and deception the way your friend cs is doing deserves to be flogged publicly. As to your assurances that cs is a conservative, when he starts acting like one I will believe that he is, until then like I said, if it has a watertight a$$hole like a duck it must be a DKoS liberal.
doriangrey on June 6, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Dorian, please – Ease up! I assure you it’s a caring, therapeutic setting CS needs. He has some deep seated Fred! issues.
Besides your flamethrower doesn’t seem to be making much progress anyway.
The Ritz on June 6, 2007 at 6:35 PM
The watertight a$$hole was funny the first time. . . cabbage chewed twice is never pretty.
The Ritz on June 6, 2007 at 6:37 PM
heather’s gettin’ the idea.
The Ritz on June 6, 2007 at 6:37 PM
Im a pretty fast learner. :)
heatherrc77 on June 6, 2007 at 6:39 PM
Fred! came in fifth place at debate, even though he wasn’t there…
heatherrc77 on June 6, 2007 at 6:46 PM
heatherrc77 on June 6, 2007 at 6:39 PM
Shame cs isnt…….
doriangrey on June 6, 2007 at 6:47 PM
Hell, who really takes what Ann says seriously. She’s entertainment.
Besides, by her standards, there’s no one in the field that would even qualify for her vote. So, if the worst thing she can say about Fred is he split his vote on impeachment, she’s hit a dry well.
BacaDog on June 6, 2007 at 6:47 PM
Dorian, I’m proud of your restraint!
We all know that Fred! is the inevitable choice. We’re just gonna’ break it to CS gently.
By the way CS thinks a trip to Israel is phony – I think it shows someone who understands how to get straight to the heart of the matter! And I’m gettin’ psyched!
The Ritz on June 6, 2007 at 6:50 PM
The Ritz on June 6, 2007 at 6:35 PM
As soon as cs does, I promise.
Is for liberal girley-men……So maybe you are right……
doriangrey on June 6, 2007 at 6:50 PM
Yes, exactly. Even if he did vote guilty on both articles, it wouldn’t have changed the outcome. They needed a vote of 67 and they only got 50.
heatherrc77 on June 6, 2007 at 6:56 PM
LOL!
Spirit of 1776 on June 6, 2007 at 7:03 PM
Let’s remember had Clinton been convicted we would have had 8 years of Algore as president.
Mojave Mark on June 6, 2007 at 8:39 PM
fred? is pro-choice, he tried to blame it on a clerical error from one of his staff, yet I have a direct quote where he states that the woman has the final choice
fred? has a red pickup, his staff drive it within a few blocks of his rallys, then he picks it up and drives to the rally. He does the reverse thing when he leaves the rally, then gets into his limo and drives over to The Caucus Room for ceegars and brandy.
fred? failed to make the clinton/china connection
fred? has zero executive experience
fred? waited until a few days before filing date to announce he would not run for the senate
fred? has a very weak senate record
fred? was a Washington lobbyist for special interest groups
fred? is more actor than public servant
fred? refused to impeach the clenis
fred? refuses to announce when he will announce
fred? his staff confirms that he can’t speak off the cuff, he must have a scripted prepared speech or a friendly softball interviewer to spout his rhetoric
fred? rehashes what other candidates have already said
fred? is not a candidate
Is that enough or do you need more?
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 9:18 PM
The Ritz,
Sorry, I was watching Norbit. funny.
Thanks for the defense.
Hey, I was running the numbers on fred? verses Rudy today, and fred? has only $12,780,000 to go to catch up to Rudy. That’s if Rudy stays static. I think Mitt! has roughly $20 mil. Doesn’t look like he’s gonna breeze through this, but you never know, the entire moonbat dominated internet just might switch horses and start sending their cash to freddie boy. :-)
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 9:25 PM
AMEN you beautiful American!
BTW, I like the way Fred! aka 44 is doing this. He’s getting a ton of free press while the other candiates are bashing each other and paying money for ads.
VikingGoneWild on June 6, 2007 at 9:28 PM
Good job! Take Thursday off but get back at it Friday!
Does this means the racing fans will vote FT due to Days of Thunder?
VikingGoneWild on June 6, 2007 at 9:41 PM
Stuff a sock in it.
Connie on June 6, 2007 at 9:47 PM
That is pretty disturbing isn’t it? Here you have a journalist who is supposed to be accurate, yet he puts this fred? person in the ratings and the guy isn’t even a candidate. fred? hasn’t had to face unfriendly interviews, 3 debates, or tough questions from the voters, and has only appeared with prepared speeches and in softball interviews. Yet, this reporter gobbles up freds? rhetoric like a one-eyed, gimp legged, broke tailed dog, lapping up the barf that runs out the bottom of a green dumpster behind a flee bag hotel down on skid row. There are real candidates out there that have braved the gauntlet of debates, hostile environments with rude questions, the daily scrutiny of an unfriendly media, and more importantly, have opened themselves up to a demanding electorate, AND ARE STILL STANDING. fred? hasn’t earned the privilege to be mentioned in the same breath with even Ron Paul, much less a Rudy McRomney.
fred? has zero credibility and wont until he grows some stones and make himself available to all the scrutiny that the real candidates have. Every conservative should demand it.
It’s insulting to honorable candidates, for freddie boy to crow about specious poll numbers, when he’s too cowardly to stand up next to them. It reminds me of a AA ball player bragging that he has more homers than a major leaguer. fred? is an a$$, and he’d better get it turned around, because the rest of the country isn’t hypnotized by his folksy rhetoric and fake red pickup truck schtick.
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Heh.
Oxymoron.
Tennman on June 6, 2007 at 10:57 PM
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 10:23 PM
You are insulting to honorable candidates, hell you are just plain insulting.
Been proven false, just another one of your lies….
fred? has a red pickup,
his staff drive it within a few blocks of his rallys, then he picks it up and drives to the rally. He does the reverse thing when he leaves the rally, then gets into his limo and drives over to The Caucus Room for ceegars and brandy.The rest is just bullsh!t…..
Flat out lie, Fred was the chairman of the proceeding and all his efforts were block by a very corrupt Janet Reno and Clintons stooges.
Another canard, since the only presidents to ever have any executive experience before being elected were LBJ and Bush Sr.
Yet another disingenuous canard since this is common practice.
According to you but not according to his voting recordwhich makes this yet another disingenuous canard.
Yes he was, and the problem there is exactly what?
Another flat out lie, I would suggest that you check his record, but I know that you are far to intellectually dishonest to do so.
Again this is a problem why? because you say so, other than that it isnt.
Again why is this a problem? Because you say so? Sorry no pass on this canard either.
Could be a problem, but remains yet to be seen.
So you claim, evidence not provided, no pass here either.
And finally the stupidest canard of all, the evidence clearly proves otherwise which doesn’t stop you for one second from standing there like that idiot Chip Diller at the end of Animal House screaming Remain calm. All is well!
doriangrey on June 6, 2007 at 10:59 PM
doriangray, you’re wasting your pixelated ink, but I admire your determination.
Tennman on June 6, 2007 at 11:35 PM
csdeven,
here’s my (serious) take on your Fred hitlist:
From the news reports I’ve heard I admit there’s some question about this. It’s something on my list of things to listen for. While I don’t think his voting record would back an argument that he is a Giuliani-kind-of prochoice I think he may have left the door open a crack in the past. Let’s see if he slams it shut.
You’re just nitpickin’.
If you mean he failed to make the charge stick I don’t think that was his fault. Could he have fought more tenaciously? Maybe so, I don’t have enough facts to know. Still even if he didn’t play the gladiator on this one it doesn’t concern me much.
Yeah. No governorship. Understood. But after voting for a “conservative” former governor in the last two elections if it’s a choice between conviction or experience I’ll take the conviction! I get that you think Fred! is all image, but I disagree. I think he means what he says.
nitpickin’ again
It’s not the most conservative voting record, but it is a strongly conservative record – rated around 85% by the advocate groups who track that kind of thing.
He’s been alot of things. Next.
This is pure-T subjective opinion on your part. Don’t know how you could objectively arrive at this conclusion unless you’re comparing hours worked as a Senator to hours employed as an actor. Even then, that’s no geniune calculation of the value of his public service or the service he could render to the country in the future.
Bygones.
Mountain out of a mole-hill. next.
I said next!
This I honestly don’t know how you come up with. As much as I’ve favored Mitt until now, his rhetoric is too finely manufactured for me to feel comfortable that it’s genuine. Fred!-talk, on the other hand, has a very true ring IMHO. (I don’t mean because it’s homespun either.)
With all of the recent activity I think you’re gonna hafta quit using this line pretty soon. Anyway, whether he’s in or not doesn’t preclude discussing his viability as a candidate.
OK. do it again, only this time give me your Mitt list.
The Ritz on June 6, 2007 at 11:40 PM
Sorry, I missed this. Looks like we have another member for drinks in San Diego after the nomination! Welcome heather!
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 11:47 PM
Yes, heather and I are both concerned. We want to see you back on your meds.
The Ritz on June 7, 2007 at 12:00 AM
csdeven,
I’ll have to catch your Mitt list in the morning. I is tard.
The Ritz on June 7, 2007 at 12:03 AM
csdeven on June 6, 2007 at 11:47 PM
Oh dear god please tell me you are not from San Diego…….I feel sooo dirty now………
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 12:06 AM
I’m wondering would Hitlery use her fake southern accent if debating Phred who has a real southern accent?
Phred is phresh whereas Clinton fatigue jumped the shark in the 90’s.
Mojave Mark on June 7, 2007 at 12:12 AM
If Fred T. stays healthy, he has a shot.
Otherwise, Romney/Guiliani… (or, in a very different primary, Tancredo/Hunter).
profitsbeard on June 7, 2007 at 12:31 AM
Omni….Yer a great American!
That’s precisely when I shut the video off. I knew it was coming and I watched it anyway. Gawd that was pathetic. I thought Sean’s head was going to explode.
MrC_5150 on June 7, 2007 at 12:41 AM
MrC_5150 on June 7, 2007 at 12:41 AM
Oh come on, dont tell me you wouldnt just love to see Sean head explode……….From excesive ego-stimulation….
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 12:57 AM
Well will you look at that, I hurt poor csdevens wittle fewings, he wont respond to me no more…… Fortunately for cs a fearless searching moral inventory isn’t something he is likely to engage in any time soon, so the exact reason as to why his wittle fewings are hurt will evade him and he will just continue to ignore me, which probably isn’t a bad thing. People whose lack of ethical behavior and engorged sense of personal hypocrisy like cs really aren’t capable of much in the way of meaningful dialog.
Oh and just for the record cs, you really don’t seem to like having baseless exaggerated crap about you thrown at you, but you don’t have any problems doing the throwing yourself, its called hypocrisy and those who engage in it are called hypocrites and its exactly what you are doing and being right now. I have a suggestion for you……Try growing up.
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 1:17 AM
Fred’s from my home state. Sometimes its hard to view your next door neighbors in the same light as national figures, even when your neighbor is a national figure. The advantage of having him as a neighbor is that I know what he looks like without his dress clothes on — and he’s still a pretty down to earth, genuine guy with an easy going mannerism that belies his wealth of experience.
I have a friend from Tennessee I went to residency with in Charlottesville, VA. All of the ivory league grads mistook his slow drawl and southern accent as a sign of stupidity. He consistently outperformed them with simple hard work and common sense and successfully competed for the prized cardiology fellowship.
Fred’s like that too. Underneath that southern gentleman exterior is a mean, scrappin’, whoop-A$$ rebel. But he rarely has to confront in a direct fight. He does his best work behind the scenes by building a network of honest-to-goodness true friends who want to do the right thing. Then when it’s parley time, his enemies don’t want to fight, cuz there’s a whole army of supporters in the bushes with a bead drawn on em’. Mark my words — Fred’s not lazy, and he’s been thinking about this for a long time (years). When he comes out, you’ll feel the strength.
CountryDoc on June 7, 2007 at 1:53 AM
CountryDoc on June 7, 2007 at 1:53 AM
What does the president know and when did he know it…….Yep Fred is nobody to be taken lightly……..
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 2:06 AM
Sounds like more wishful thinking than anything else. He is not another Reagan, who worked hard for 20 years supporting the party and even took a step back gracefully in 76.
If he was as good as you make him out to be there should have been a little more hoopla during his Senate career.
Bradky on June 7, 2007 at 7:28 AM
More media find out fred? is an empty suit parroting the points the real candidates have already stated.
I figure he got his $220K and now can afford to take that vacation to Israel. The only people who think this is a positive move on freddie boys part are his groupies. And we all know the groupies are hypnotized by freds? pickup, blue jeans, flannel shirt, and folksy colloquialisms. Hardly a credible group if you’re looking for factual vetting of his true self and his ability to lead this country. His total lack of experience shows fred? as completely unacceptable as a CinC. He is absolutely the worst possible candidate for the job.
csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 10:13 AM
csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 10:13 AM
More media find out csdeven like to lie and play in his own doo-doo……..
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 10:32 AM
OK Professor, I’ll bite. And certainly… no offence taken to the mere accusal of not having a brain.
Now, please give me one… just one please, instance of Ann saying someting that you thought was wrong. I’m not saying I heard EVERYTHING Ann has ever said, but I believe I have heard most of it, so I’m betting I will be aware of whatever your example will be.
Please fire away.
Maxx on June 7, 2007 at 10:51 AM
I don’t want to sidetrack blathers response, but I must add that a lot of the stuff people say Ann is wrong on is a result of their misunderstanding of her reasons for saying such.
She nailed freddie boy on his back-stabbing no vote to impeach the clenis.
csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 11:04 AM
csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 11:04 AM
Coming from the king of back-stabbing that’s quite an endorsement….
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 11:58 AM
doriangrey… This is not the place for on-running personal attacks, if you have something substantive to bring to the debate, then bring it. Otherwise… knock it off. I have no power to make you go away, but there are people that do, don’t think your comments go without notice.
Maxx on June 7, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Reports are that Fred is now in 1st Place among Likley GOP voters in NC!
ImwithfredinPA!!!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 7, 2007 at 1:58 PM
Sweeet. Go Fred. I really cannot believe any of you would have objections to Fred Thompson. The guy is the real deal.
msipes on June 7, 2007 at 2:10 PM
Maxx on June 7, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Just as soon as cs stops with the unsubstantiated and dishonest attacks on Fred.
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Then bring your facts and figures to bear and stop the name calling.
Maxx on June 7, 2007 at 2:37 PM
Maxx on June 7, 2007 at 12:16 PM
If you don’t have the exact same problem with what cs is doing than you are a hypocrite because I am just copying cs…Speak up…
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 2:38 PM
Maxx on June 7, 2007 at 2:37 PM
I’ve already refuted every single one of cs’ dishonest assertion multiple times.
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 2:39 PM
I don’t know about this Fred lovefest. What’s his voting record? Is he really a conservative?
I think I’ll wait to hear from the Islamists before I choose. Whomever they end up hating the most, or who they are the most afraid of, is most likely the candidate I’ll end up supporting.
CliffHanger on June 7, 2007 at 4:34 PM
Well, we have another insult to real candidates from a NC poll showing fred? in first place. Tis a sad state of affairs for consevatism.
csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 4:36 PM
The fred? love fest is much like a group of people in search of certain things. They have embarked on a journey to find the person who will provide such things. Eventually they find this person and after much hard work and sacrifice, they can see their journey come to fruition.
csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 4:52 PM
BUT….just as Dorthy and her pals discovered that the “wizard” was really a phoney who never wanted the job, but had it thrust upon him by a people needing a job to fill rather than wanting a leader with the vision to lead, the fred? groupies have traveled the same yellow brick road to nowhere….
CSdeven has, like the lovable but scroungy Toto, pulled the curtain on freddie boy to reveal him as a well intentioned guy, but still a faker hiding behind smoke, noise, and mirrors, pretending to be that which he is not.
So, rather than beat up Toto for simple being the messenger, the groupies should close theirs eyes and repeat the phrase….There’s no one like MITT!…There’s no one like MITT!……There’s no one like MITT!……and then pull that lever to take you back to the promised land.
:-)
csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 5:05 PM
csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 5:05 PM
Wouldn’t want to mischaracterize your efforts there big guy…..Intellectual honesty being sooo very important to you and all.
doriangrey on June 7, 2007 at 5:33 PM
Well…. its been more than twelve hours and no reply from the good Professor. I guess he didn’t have much bad to say about Coulter after all.
I wonder if this means I get my brain back ?
Maxx on June 7, 2007 at 10:59 PM
Does it means he is still looking for his? :-)
csdeven on June 7, 2007 at 11:39 PM
I like what I hear and read about and from Fred, but I wonder what his real positions on immigration and borders are?
I would rather that Republicans got serious about promoting Duncan Hunter, who is both strong on borders and enforcement and the WOT — he has stayed in Congress and worked to make conservative principles been enacted into law.
Rudy and McCain will not get the conservative vote in the primaries and without that Republicans will not win.
Margaret McC on June 8, 2007 at 8:51 AM
Corrections on above, without the conservatives on board, Republicans will not win in ‘08.
Margaret McC on June 8, 2007 at 8:52 AM
So, you are suggesting that these men acquire and sustain a state of entelecheia? ;-)
I think that there’s a few of them that are, and always have been, themselves. Tom Tancredo, Mike Huckabee, Duncan Hunter, and Fred Thompson. Romney may well turn into what he’s trying to become, but the past is still speaking with some volume in opposition. Rudy and McAmnesty wouldn’t know themselves if they hit themselves in the nose.
Freelancer on June 8, 2007 at 9:54 AM
Thus far it seems Duncan Hunter has the stronger voting record, neccessary experience, and the most solid ‘08 campaign platform so I’m left wondering why more conservatives aren’t lining up to support him? Are there potential skeletons in his closet that might harm his chances?
Is it because many conservatives are placing Party above principle and want to support someone who we feel will win the general election? I thought we understood that most Americans, while not expressly political, are by-and-large conservative on most issues. If that’s the case, shouldn’t we at least be a bit less committal at this early stage and really perform our due-diligence to find the best candidate on the issues?
I’m not throwing my full support behind a specific candidate just yet but from what I know today, Hunter seems like the best fit.
With national security and border enforcement the top issues going into ‘08 and really firing up the base (a good thing, BTW), I think the door is wide open for anyone with the right record and the right message and a minimal amount of personal baggage. We just need to find that next great leader of conservatism, support him/her to the max, and help America get to know him/her and the rest should take care of itself.
I would say if conservative apathy still ruled the day like it did during the last election cycle, then it would make some sense to back a so-called moderate with already-established name recognition, however it’s a new ball game folks and we have a unique opportunity to re-invigorate the Reagan revolution.
CliffHanger on June 8, 2007 at 1:53 PM
That is how I feel about it. But I don’t feel that compromise is placing party over principle because I am a conservative before anything else. There is no such thing as a conservative democrat, so all that is left are the republicans. ANY republican is better than ANY democrat ANY minute of ANY day.
We can’t because it’s all about money and most of the people do not get involved in primary politics. That leaves it to the power brokers and they put their money where it does the most good.
I don’t know the guy, but from what I have read and heard, I’d tend to agree.
I’d add experience and leadership as top priorities along with the qualities you listed. (which eliminates that lying fraud fred?)
OK, you got the leadership in there.
That guy may very well be a candidate at this time. I think who ever it is will quietly work on his maoderate legislation, but will makes lots of noise and lots of progress on conservative values. As soon as the next Justice is seated, roe v. wade will be over turned. Immigration and the war on terror will also be big conservative values that are very important to the base.
Don’t laugh. I can hope can’t I? :-)
csdeven on June 8, 2007 at 3:19 PM
Right to some extent. In the primaries, it’s still one-person-one-vote. If we agree it’s primarily political base voters and activists who typically participate in primary elections, then it’s during this time that we have our best chance to nominate a real conservative to take on Hillary.
It’s this group of voters, that’s us, who shouldn’t be the least bit motivated or influenced by political power brokers and financiers, regardless of the scope of their investments in their pet candidates. We are disciplined. We are independent-minded. We are educated on the issues. We evaluate voting records, past leadership experience, proposed platforms and make our decisions based upon what’s most important to lead our nation.
And when the decision has been made and we have chosen our candidate to run against Hillary, that’s when the power brokers and financiers spring into action to convince John Q. Public thier candidate is the best choice. Question is, who will they support – our candidate or Hillary? Both, most likely, right?
People need to keep in mind that Hillary is a known quantity with high negatives among Americans. The notion that only a popular moderate politician like Guiliani or McCain can beat Hillary in the general election is off the mark and very premature, especially now that the majority of Americans hold an unfavorable view of our government’s performance and conservatives are just now beginning to prepare themselves for political battle.
CliffHanger on June 8, 2007 at 4:34 PM
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