USA Today poll on amnesty bill: To know it is to hate it; Update: Bill will cut immigration by only 25%, claims CBO

posted at 6:34 pm on June 4, 2007 by Allahpundit

Unfortunately, probably not enough people know it to stop it.

But I’ll bet enough do to derail a certain Republican presidential candidacy that shall remain nameless.

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Update: Bob Owens points to the latest at the WashTimes.

The Senate’s immigration bill will only reduce illegal immigration by about 25 percent a year, according to a new Congressional Budget Office report, Stephen Dinan will report Tuesday in The Washington Times.

The bill’s new guest-worker program could lead to at least 500,000 more illegal immigrants within a decade, said the report from the CBO, which said in its official cost estimate that it assumes some future temporary workers will overstay their time in the plan, adding up to a half-million by 2017 and 1 million by 2027.

If the numbers are right then it’s important to emphasize that that half-million figure only accounts for guest workers who overstay their visas. It doesn’t account for people who are sneaking in over the border and are illegal from the word go. The Center for Immigration Studies cites the Census Bureau for the figure that 500,000 new illegals enter the country annually. If that trend holds and the amnesty bill reduces the flow by 25%, then you’re still looking at 3.75 million total by 2017.

Here’s some more good news. Try to look shocked:

[I]n a blow to President Bush’s timetable, the CBO said the “triggers” — setting up the verification system, deploying 20,000 U.S. Border Patrol agents to duty and constructing hundreds of miles of fencing and vehicle barriers — won’t be met until 2010.

Those triggers must be met before the temporary worker program could begin, and Mr. Bush had hoped to have them completed about the time he leaves office in January 2009.

Update: In light of the CBO figures, Captain Ed rescinds his tentative support for the bill and abandons ship.


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Interesting that the anti-amnesty aspect is more important to people than the border security argument.

I may be eating some of my words pretty soon.

see-dubya on June 4, 2007 at 6:39 PM

But I’ll bet enough do to derail a certain Republican presidential candidacy that shall remain nameless.

Agreed. He is now finished (almost before he got started).

CyberCipher on June 4, 2007 at 6:42 PM

Unfortunately, probably not enough people know it to stop it.

How do you figure? We’ve been lighting up the switchboards for two weeks. It’s all over talk radio and even MSM puts out blurbs on it. It’s not that we don’t know, it’s that the Senate doesn’t care. Democracy is great, when you actually have it. The monied interests are the ones in charge on this one.

PRCalDude on June 4, 2007 at 6:56 PM

But I’ll bet enough do to derail a certain Republican presidential candidacy that shall remain nameless.

Rudi (because McCain’s campaign is already off the rails)?

steveegg on June 4, 2007 at 7:16 PM

steveegg on June 4, 2007 at 7:16 PM

Rudy hasn’t been campaigning for it. He’s actually indicated he doesn’t like this one.

amerpundit on June 4, 2007 at 7:23 PM

PRCalDude on June 4, 2007 at 6:56 PM

It’s easy to be informed on it if one wants to be.

I know plenty of people (the kind of people that, when the news comes on, they switch the channel to entertainment tonight) that prefer not to be bothered with details about things like the immigration bill. And yes, sadly, these people do vote.

JadeNYU on June 4, 2007 at 7:34 PM

amerpundit on June 4, 2007 at 7:23 PM

What, not “amnesty” enough for him?

Buzzy on June 4, 2007 at 7:44 PM

JadeNYU on June 4, 2007 at 7:34 PM

sadly, these people do vote.

That isnt sad, its down right scarry……..

doriangrey on June 4, 2007 at 7:47 PM

Funny thing???

They just raised the price of getting a Green Card, if you wait in line, to $950.

Sooo… these guys get stay in America for $1000, FOR THEIR ENTIRE FAMILY!, effectivly a $50 fine….

Yep… less than the price of the average speeding ticket.

Romeo13 on June 4, 2007 at 7:58 PM

Romeo13 on June 4, 2007 at 7:58 PM

They just raised the price of getting a Green Card,

Yep and at the rate they are going should this bill pass by the time it becomes law it will cost more to become a legal citizen than it does to be illegal and get amnesty…..

doriangrey on June 4, 2007 at 8:01 PM

Since it is impossible to actually deport all these illegals, I want to know what happens to all who are illegal after the bill goes into affect (January 1st 2007?) It somehow is suddenly possible to deport them? Or maybe there is an automatic yearly recurring amnesty in this bill on page #468,342 that no one has discovered yet?

Resolute on June 4, 2007 at 8:53 PM

Resolute on June 4, 2007 at 8:53 PM

impossible? Please look up operation Wetback…

Unpopular in some circles? more realistic word.

Romeo13 on June 4, 2007 at 9:07 PM

Resolute on June 4, 2007 at 8:53 PM

It somehow is suddenly possible to deport them?

According to Chertoff, um, yes.

doriangrey on June 4, 2007 at 9:09 PM

Romeo13 on June 4, 2007 at 9:07 PM

impossible? Please look up operation Wetback…

Unpopular in some circles? more realistic word.

He he I think Resolute’s question was a little more nuanced than that. As in If it is accepted as impossible now, how can it become possible later??

doriangrey on June 4, 2007 at 9:12 PM

He he I think Resolute’s question was a little more nuanced than that. As in If it is accepted as impossible now, how can it become possible later??
doriangrey on June 4, 2007 at 9:12 PM

Yes, that’s what I meant. It was sarcastic.

Resolute on June 4, 2007 at 9:35 PM