Open thread: Headlines 6/1
posted at 8:25 am on June 1, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Same deal as yesterday. If you see something in the headlines section that you’re burning to comment on, here’s the place to do it. For your early morning reading: Peggy Noonan’s last rites for the Bush presidency and Tony Blair’s valediction at the Economist. A taste:
It is said that by removing Saddam or the Taliban—regimes that were authoritarian but also kept a form of order—the plight of Iraqis and Afghans has worsened and terrorism has been allowed to grow. This is a seductive but dangerous argument. Work out what it really means. It means that because these reactionary and evil forces will fight hard, through terrorism, to prevent those countries and their people getting on their feet after the dictatorships are removed, we should leave the people under the dictatorship. It means our will to fight for what we believe in is measured by our enemy’s will to fight us, but in inverse proportion. That is not a basis on which you ever win anything.
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Noonan is right. At this point in his presidency, Bush will rival Carter as the worst President in history. I can’t remember a time when an administration broke from the party at this level. He might just as well have switched parties.
csdeven on June 1, 2007 at 8:43 AM
Where’s the new Vent at??? J/K. Good morning.
vcferlita on June 1, 2007 at 8:46 AM
What’s the point of switching parties when they’re both becoming more alike? And what the hell took Peggy Noonan so long? We need Fred!
Good news, AP. It’s taking less than five seconds to find it now.
manwithblackhat on June 1, 2007 at 8:48 AM
Did you hear the one about the truthers who decided to take a look at a 30-year-old hijacking?
The Israelis did it.
flipflop on June 1, 2007 at 8:56 AM
Peggy Noonan hit it right on the head. I just wish I didn’t waste so much effort defending him over the past 6 years.
If only he and his minions went after liberals with such fervor we wouldn’t have been so weakened to the point that he governs like one.
kcluva on June 1, 2007 at 9:01 AM
I think that this is rather silly. Carter had less than Zero accomplishments and was the caretaker of the worst economy aside from the depression.
Bush has had a resilent economy in the face of 9/11 and katrina, a decent education program, freed two nations from dictatorship, set the groundwork for the cedar revolution, disrupted the AQ Kahn nuke network and got Gaddafi to renounce his bomb program.
Show me anything even close in the carter years? OK maybe the egypt-israel stuff but thats about it.
liberrocky on June 1, 2007 at 9:04 AM
The story about the distance-spitter brought back a bad memory. A friend and coworker of mine died doing just the same thing.
mikeyboss on June 1, 2007 at 9:06 AM
My favorite part of Noonan’s article, is the last paragraph.
BTW, Allah, where’s today’s VENT? LOL.
amerpundit on June 1, 2007 at 9:14 AM
Oh, nevermind, vcferlita already did the Vent thing.
amerpundit on June 1, 2007 at 9:15 AM
IDF Fears war with Syria
Um…am I the only one thinking about f-ing time?
Regional conflagration is the only way the sitution is ever going to clear up.
liberrocky on June 1, 2007 at 9:30 AM
Waaaa waaaa waaaaaa…worse than liberals. You give up on our soldiers by extension idiots
tomas on June 1, 2007 at 9:31 AM
And before you start calling these brave dissenters Anti-Semites, I’ll have you know that they are Anti-Zionists, and that there’s a difference!
/there isn’t really a difference
//most of the nutroots are raging Jew haters
///anti-semites sicken me
Bad Candy on June 1, 2007 at 9:43 AM
In other news headlines, Dennis Kucinich’s [current] wife is kind of a hottie, relatively speaking.
saint kansas on June 1, 2007 at 9:49 AM
fred? = Greg Brady.
hahahahaha
csdeven on June 1, 2007 at 9:51 AM
I was talking to my mother today, and she seems to believe that Bush is having a mental breakdown. I don’t mean that in a political sense, I mean literally. Her mother had a nervous breakdown, and she says she sees the same things happening to him. Maybe she’s onto something. Again, I mean that literally, as in health ways.
amerpundit on June 1, 2007 at 9:52 AM
Bushie has left us and it’s time, for the sake of those of us who will not secret service protection for the rest of our lives, for all of us to leave him and find the next leader of the conservative movement.
csdeven on June 1, 2007 at 9:54 AM
AP – I hear Laura Ingraham spanked Linda Chavez this morning. I missed it. Did you catch it? Any chance of getting it for us?
PS – tell her she needs to add HA to her favorite websites links…
TheBigOldDog on June 1, 2007 at 10:08 AM
Rocky, I was thinkin’ the same thing about Israel and Syria. If the IDF would open up another front for us, we’d be freed up to take on Iran.
Oh, and the headline should read “Syria Fears War With Israel” not the other way around.
Tony737 on June 1, 2007 at 10:11 AM
Anyone hear Bill Bennett’s show this morning with Steve Moore from the WSJ and Mark Krikorian from NRO?
Moore was weak. Basically admitted it’s not a good bill but it must be passed as is. Hmmmph.
Also I believe there will be another debate between the two editorial boards.
Brat on June 1, 2007 at 10:13 AM
LMAO!
infidel4life on June 1, 2007 at 10:23 AM
The WaPo’s article on the GOP, led by Boehner, trying to massage their image, really agitated me, and now I am going to vent. Actually, I am going to rant.
Rant on:
Boehner and the party leadership trying to polish the party’s image is akin to polishing a rotten apple. It still isn’t going to sell. Not as long as the insulated from the base and spineless Rino’s in the party have any say over this so called new image.
A new image will never change the opposition of the committed left; to them it is a sign of weakness to be pounced on (as in “see, they needed to moderate their extremist positions to reconnect with the Amercian people, but don’t be fooled, they still hate you.”)
A new image won’t garner support from the welfare class, those that don’t pay attention to politics, only to who can give them more in benefits and handouts. History is on the side of the Dems on this one, as it is Dem pressure on the GOP that got them the Medicare prescription drug program, the Education bill from W’s first term, and now, the promise of amnesty for 12 million people whos first act in this country was to break the law. The “gimme” class knows who butters their bread.
That leaves the common-sense middle Americans, and the committed conservatives.
Committed conservatives fear that any change in the image of the GOP will leave them out in the margins of the party. And it will. A party searching for “new ideas” instead of standing up for tried and proven principles, will leave its base out in the cold, and the base knows it.
And last but not least, the common-sense middle Americans will see re-packaging as just that, repackaging. It will further reinforce the idea that the two parties are Coke and Pepsi, with little real difference other than image and marketing. And these folks are the swing voters, those who aren’t willfully apathetic, not entirely ignorant of the issues, and can be convinced by reason of the logic of a particular issue. Or occasionally fooled by clever deception, but that is a rant on the MSM, saved for some other time. Problem is, Dems have a hammerlock on saying whatever it takes to win, and most of us don’t want to see the GOP become just like them, for the same reason…to keep or regain their grip on power for powers sake.
The GOP is screwed, short term, probably longer, unless it gets back to doing what the voters who elected them want them to do.
From the local and state level to the national stage, fear of being on the wrong side of a issue, of looking bad while standing up for princlples, is killing the party.
What else explains supporting onerous child seat laws (Wisconsin has one that mandates children up to 9 year and 80 lbs. be put in them) other than fear of appearing to be callous to children dying?
Or supporting anti-smoking legislation that infringes on the rights of property and business owners?
Or going along with anti-capitalist, leftist driven propaganda on the environment, for fear of appearing to support dirty air and water, or worse, global warming.
Or sticking a finger in the eye of every immigrant who EVER came here by following the rules, out of fear of being labeled as a racist, casting the much vaunted “rule of law” into the dustbin without so much as a whimper.
How about this, GOP?
State your Principles, follow your principles, and only support policies that move the country (or your little corner of it) closer to those princlples.
I guess I am asking too much… I feel used and jaded.
/Rant off.
ps I thought this would make me feel better. It didn’t. Pardon me while I go kick my dog around the yard, and sorry for the bloviating.
OneEyedJack on June 1, 2007 at 10:30 AM
Holy Cow: have you seen the photo headline at Drudge? Our intrepid traveler with TB and his young bride. She reminds me of George Burns’s comedic skit assistant, Nurse Goodbody, in a couple of ways.
Wow. No wonder he refused to go into quarantine…
Jaibones on June 1, 2007 at 10:36 AM
You better not! Unless its a Pomeranian or Shih Tzu, then punt away!
Yes I’m Joking! Punting puppies is no laughing matter.
Bad Candy on June 1, 2007 at 10:40 AM
That’s more like the HotAir we know and love. Have a little sport.
I was thinking about something last night that made me want to throw up. Imagine yourself in uniform in Iraq or Afghanistan, active combat, and you stumble upon the news of what is happening to the GOP and the country on the immigration front, all to the discredit of your C in C.
Does it undermine what you’re doing? Do you begin to wonder why the f*** you’re over there risking your life, while this as*hole can’t even secure the border with Mexico or figure out who is boarding airplanes?
I hate that.
Jaibones on June 1, 2007 at 10:45 AM
Looks like Paris Hilton to me. It’s her latest tactic to avoid jail.
Brat on June 1, 2007 at 10:58 AM
Is that a veil she’s wearing?
vcferlita on June 1, 2007 at 11:06 AM
I’m no doctor but shouldn’t HE be wearing the mask?
Brat on June 1, 2007 at 11:08 AM
Wow, and she’s got that Julianne Moore thing going on! Now to the burning question, Kansas: is she taller than him?
manwithblackhat on June 1, 2007 at 11:12 AM
Much taller
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1813550.ece
http://kucinich.us/files/images/DK%20&%20EJK%202.preview.JPG
Brat on June 1, 2007 at 11:23 AM
Can we have a TB/Speaker-the-A-hole thread?
Tru2my2 on June 1, 2007 at 11:46 AM
One in a million shot doc. One in a million. – Kramer, Seinfeld.
lorien1973 on June 1, 2007 at 11:54 AM
I can only speak for myself, viz.:
No more compassionate conservatism for me.
I want RUTHLESS Klingon warrior style conservatism.
‘Nuff said.
CyberCipher on June 1, 2007 at 12:00 PM
Everytime I read a Noonan column I feel calm and cool. I think of her voice as I read it and it really helps to calm me down. As usual, she hits it on the head.
SouthernGent on June 1, 2007 at 12:17 PM
(Kucinich’s wife)
Risible. She’ll never be close to the WH. But she’ll always be the dwarf’s giant. Whatever…
Entelechy on June 1, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Awwww, poor Jessica Cutler has no more money left. I’m sure she’ll find a way to make ends meet…
WisCon on June 1, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Oh, that’s nice. And she has a pierced tongue too. Just the thing to give state dinners a little class.
I think she just did.
manwithblackhat on June 1, 2007 at 3:34 PM
Oh my gawd!
Hogzilla was a pet like Arnold on Green Acres!!!
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2007/06/01/0601monsterpig.html
Brat on June 1, 2007 at 3:39 PM
RNC fundraising pitch:
Not really, since Bush’s idiocy is MY idiocy, because I chose to put him in office. At least w/ Blinky I could blame the lefties.
peski on June 1, 2007 at 7:42 PM
What’s been getting a lot of coverage is Tribal Disenrollment and loss of civil rights for some members of California’s gaming tribes.
PaulinaHunters Blog has the story of the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Mission Indians in Temecula CA. They have destroyed more Indians that the White Man did last century.
Additionally also is sharing information.
The Governator, Arnold, want to reward tribes for kicking out members. He thinks it will balance his budget.
originalpechanga on June 1, 2007 at 11:01 PM
testing…
nottakingsides on August 31, 2007 at 10:44 PM
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