Sucks that it’s come to this.

Esthier on June 1, 2007 at 2:46 PM

Changed my party affiliation last week. It made me sick to do that but they don’t hear us !

stenwin77 on June 1, 2007 at 2:51 PM

Sucks that it’s come to this.

You got that right, damn it all…..

Lonevoice on June 1, 2007 at 2:57 PM

THANK YOU BRYAN AND MICHELLE!

I sent my annual RNC contribution earlier this year with a polite but explicit letter that it was my “once a year contribution and please do not send me any more solicitations or call me.”

I get a “thank you for your contribution can you send more” letter at least once a week. I have been saving them to send each back with another letter. Now I’m going to include one of these too!

Brat on June 1, 2007 at 3:04 PM

it is imperative that we have more Border Patrol agents
georgej on June 1, 2007 at 3:00 PM

Tuesday I received an email from a job search site….in it was an ad from the Border Patrol seeking applicants thru Jan 08….since my wife runs the flower shop and I am just shop cannon fodder I decided I would call the number and give it a shot. I’m no youngster, but fit enough and willing enough………….

‘Sorry Sir, age limit is 40.’ *click*

Guess I am of the age that makes me incapable. I’d even sign a waiver about the retirement age and benefits. Yeah, old man with pipe dreams, but while I have no doubt I could keep up with the best of em I guess the government considers me just baggage.

Limerick on June 1, 2007 at 3:09 PM

You guys are over the edge.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 3:26 PM

Brat on June 1, 2007 at 3:04 PM

I had sent out a donation after the bill, but before all of the Bush bashing his supporters thing happened. I’m sure I’ll be getting letters back too. On an aside, I’ve printed out several sheets of these, shall we call them, amnesty bucks.

amerpundit on June 1, 2007 at 3:41 PM

You guys can dish it out but you can’t take it. Babies like liberals. You had better show YOUR COMMANDER AND CHEIF more respect.

Think before you, well think. There are some things more important than you egos.

Walk and chew gum people and act like you’ve been there. No sense of reality whatsoever.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 3:47 PM

It’s called “coherency”.

Look it up.

thirteen28 on June 1, 2007 at 3:52 PM

Bush is really losing it. If you pray for our leaders, now would be a good time:

Bush in U-turn on global warming

Also from Georgie Anne Geyer:

But by all reports, President Bush is more convinced than ever of his righteousness.
Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated “I am the president!” He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of “our country’s destiny.”

Valiant on June 1, 2007 at 3:58 PM

I’ll never cut and run on the troops, dude.

Bryan on June 1, 2007 at 4:00 PM

Your commander and cheif is doing his job and a damn good job of it. He hasn’t left you guys…your senses have.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 4:04 PM

tomas, get a glass of icy cold water. It’ll do you good. It clears things up.

On the bright side of this ‘cirsis’ - Mr. Bush is doing the rightie contenders for his job a huge favor. Maybe unwittingly, he’s given them a path to separate themselves from him and his admin., the good and the not-so-good. Maybe this is not such a bad thing. After the storm the sun rays are always the brightest.

Entelechy on June 1, 2007 at 4:07 PM

Conservatives made a huge mistake hooking up with Bush. He is unfaithful to us, bedding down with HUUUGE government, entitlements, the liberal media, amnesty and now the environmental movement with all its whackerie.

The conservative base is the wife he is sleeping around on. He then has the nerve to insult us.

It is past time for a clean divorce.

Valiant on June 1, 2007 at 4:12 PM

What was wrong with the Homestead Act? No president is perfect, but gross incompetence is what we are dealing with here almost on the scale of Jimmy Carter.

Valiant on June 1, 2007 at 4:16 PM

Let us see…Lincoln gave us the Homestead Act and Reagan gave us amnesty….Both great mean.

Bush equals satan…you guys are wrapped up in this and can’t see straight. Think before you speak.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 4:13 PM

Neither Lincoln nor Reagan showed disdain for and loathing of their base - Bush has done so in a major way in his second term.

Think before you speak.

thirteen28 on June 1, 2007 at 4:22 PM

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 4:13 PM

Lincoln and Reagan didn’t kick their base in the face. The amnesty bill, under Reagan, was in 1986. We had a fraction of the problem, and no one was really sure how it would work. Reagan also was willing to call it amnesty - and that it ended up not working. That was 21 years ago. I would’ve hoped we learned from that mistake of a bill.

amerpundit on June 1, 2007 at 4:28 PM

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 4:13 PM

sorry…

Lincoln destroyed the Constitution, and took us on a Federal rampage. He broke Habeus Corpus, and many other Rights under the constitution. In fact, the Emancipation Proclamation itself was an ILLEGAL UNCONSTITUIONAL ACT!

Reagan? Yep, amnesty, not good and we’re paying for it still… Beruit? he cut and run when we wanted to stay (and yes, I mean that personaly) and we are paying for it today, he also allowed the start of the Eco movement which has killed any rational energy plan in this country.

Sorry, but a rational look at history from an undistorted lense is a bit different story…

Romeo13 on June 1, 2007 at 4:36 PM

Hey tomas…
…step AWAY from your crack pipe and remember that WE PAY THE TAB FOR THE PRESIDENT.

WE SENT HIM THERE.

Whether you can see the connection, this is taxation without representation. Our taxes will grow so HUGE based on this wrong-headed voting bloc grab, we cannot yet fathom.

So put a sock in it, tomas.

seejanemom on June 1, 2007 at 4:44 PM

Entelechy,

On the bright side of this ‘cirsis’……….

You know I have been doing some wondering about this. Anyone who honestly thinks GW isn’t very intelligent is living in la la land. I have been wondering just how much of this immigration issue is intentionally contrived by GW for purely political purposes.

The democrats just might have been taken in one of the most amazing political outmaneuvering in American history. The democrats were planning to force GW into timetables for Iraq withdrawal, and then GW makes a compromise with Teddy on immigration and those demands for timetables for Iraq withdrawal.

GW then turns around in the guise of fiercely supporting the immigration compromise with Teddy and pisses of nearly 2/3rds of the country almost ensuring that the immigration compromise gets killed. GW gets his Iraq spending bill with no strings attached, while firing up the Republican base more than it has been fired up in since Ronald Reagan.

Before this immigration issue it was pretty much a given that a democrat would be the next president of the United States and that the dems would pick up more seats in both the senate and the house, now it is no longer a given for either.

If and I stress very heavily IF this was GW’s strategy (the man did graduate from Yale and Harvard) it is a brilliant case of out outmaneuvering the Democrats. Before everyone starts claiming that this is way beyond GW let’s all remember how he outmaneuvering the Democrats in 2004. John Kerry had the popular vote and still lost the election because GW carried the Electoral College; that was pure political outmaneuvering in its most brutal form.

doriangrey on June 1, 2007 at 4:47 PM

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 4:32 PM

All right…you want to go that route.

Bush: Has made government bigger than Clinton did.
Reagan: “Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem.”

Bush: Has favored major corporations.
Reagan: “Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States.” and “I was asked to explain the difference between a small businessman and a big businessman. And my answer was that a big businessman is what a small businessman would be if only the government would get out of the way and leave him alone.”

Bush: Started two massive wars, possibly one with Iran.
Reagan: “People don’t start wars, governments do.” and “History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.”

Bush: Is the “decider”.
Reagan: “The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away.” and “All great change in America begins at the dinner table.”

Bush is no Reagan.

amerpundit on June 1, 2007 at 4:51 PM

If we don’t get a bill or nothing is done by ‘08 and we lose the presidency AND Congress…what do you think you are left with.

I don’t know. We could get almost no border security, citizenship for illegals, tuition breaks for children of illegals, hundreds of thousands of guest workers a year, and…oh, wait.

IF you would keep working with him…you might get a better deal than you might think and you might avoid COMPLETE disaster.

So, basically give into what he wants, and what we hate, because he wants it.

amerpundit on June 1, 2007 at 4:54 PM

No…this is where listening to pundits gets you into trouble. Put pressure on, but do it in the right way.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 4:56 PM

tomas, dude, get a grip. No man and especially no president is perfect. I didn’t vote for this one because I was (shock) DEPLOYED or at military professional schools during the elections. Still and all, I would have gladly voted for him because he was FAR better than the alternative.

HOWEVER…

He has proven to be the complete inverse of the previous president (who shall go unnamed) with a dynamite foreign policy and a piss poor domestic policy. He hasn’t met a spending program he doesn’t like and the amnesty issue is an out and out betrayal of his oath of office and duties under the constitution. I’m not throwing the man under the bus, but I think most of the commenters here feel the same way I do in that he has betrayed and kicked his base even after six years of support, despite his propensity to cozy up to the opposition and spend money like it’s going out of style. So, if anything, we are simply calling a spade a spade at this point: unless he shapes up double time quick, he WILL go down as a thoroughly mediocre (if not downright BAD) president who was not only hounded by his opponents, but who turned his back on his friends in an attempt at a legacy.

Militant Bibliophile on June 1, 2007 at 5:03 PM

I can argue about a few things, but you have to look at your alternatives in your life and make choices based on them. It may not be the choice you want, but you work to get the best you can.

I think you are stabbing yourselves in the back. I think we have to get something before he is gone. That is my opinion. If you think he is a leftist…don’t push farther.
I’m being practical. There is a time to play hardball, but in politics you can’t shut the door. And don’t say the president shut the door because that can’t happen in politics.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 5:09 PM

I don’t think tomas is a troll (like honora was, Nonfactor or gmcjetpilot are). tomas is to the shamnesty threads what csdeven is to the Fred threads. Let them be. This is the U.S.A. and HA - to each’s own.

Entelechy on June 1, 2007 at 5:28 PM

Before this immigration issue it was pretty much a given that a democrat would be the next president of the United States and that the dems would pick up more seats in both the senate and the house, now it is no longer a given for either.
If and I stress very heavily IF this was GW’s strategy (the man did graduate from Yale and Harvard) it is a brilliant case of out outmaneuvering the Democrats.
doriangrey on June 1, 2007 at 4:47 PM

I always look in that direction when Bush does something that looks really stupid. But I have not been able to bring myself to accepting that this is some strategy to get a republican the White House in 08. It is very important that we accomplish that JUST to get conservative justices nominated for the SCOTUS. If we lose the White House in 08, 1 possible 2 liberal justices will be added to the court keeping it a court that cannot move towards more traditional values.

I hope you’re right and this is just the last in a series of brilliant moves by “Rove, you magnificent bastard!”.

csdeven on June 1, 2007 at 5:42 PM

I don’t agree with most of you on this issue…I’m no troll. Sorry you just want someone to pat you on the back.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 5:57 PM

Look at the thread and what the picture of Bush is on…That is why I said it. I think the thread itself isn’t up to site standards.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 6:18 PM

Come on, Reagan wasn’t infallible. At least he called it amnesty. The problem is the enforcement part never happened, which led to the mess we have now.

What do they call someone who does the same exact thing and expects a different result?

“One thing is certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters.”

Well, we don’t need 12 million* people to harvest crops. We don’t need 1 million, we might need a quarter million.

I’m surprised more people aren’t upset at the fact that America apparently needs to import an entire servant class to make our beds, mow our lawns, pick our food dig our ditches.

*I’m certain that figure is quite low.

reaganaut on June 1, 2007 at 8:32 PM

Reality check from Ed Meese. Pearls of Wisdom.

sonnyspats1 on June 1, 2007 at 8:46 PM

To me you guys are acting like trolls.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 11:24 PM

To me you guys are acting like trolls.

tomas on June 1, 2007 at 11:24 PM

OK guys fess upwe are TROLLS!

sonnyspats1 on June 2, 2007 at 12:32 AM

Tomas… I spent 6 years defending Bush, even when he has made what I thought were big mistakes. But I am done with that. I will not let him trade the future of this country for a “legacy”.

I didn’t turn my back on him… I showed him much more loyalty than he has shown to us. He pandered to the religious right to get elected (something I didn’t like) then basically did what he wanted to after he was. Screw him, I only supported him because the alternative (Gore or Kerry) was much worse. That is the bad part of choosing between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich. Even when you win… you kinda don’t. On the bright side: at least we got some decent supreme court justices out of it and a wakeup call for the conservatives (and I hope the republican party) in this country.

BadBrad on June 2, 2007 at 8:50 AM