Rasmussen shockah: Just 16% believe the Senate bill will reduce illegal immigration
posted at 11:50 am on May 30, 2007 by Bryan
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You mean, 84% of the country might be people who want to execute illegals and don’t want what’s right for America?
There’s a simple reason the immigration bill being debated by the U.S. Senate is unpopular with voters—the general public doesn’t believe it will reduce illegal immigration. And, in the minds of most voters, that’s what immigration reform is all about.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 16% of American voters believe illegal immigration will decline if the Senate bill is passed. Seventy-four percent (74%) disagree. That figure includes 41% who believe the Senate bill will actually lead to an increase in illegal immigration.
Put me, along with Bill Kristol, in that 41%.
If voters had a chance to improve the legislation, 75% would “make changes to increase border security measures and reduce illegal immigration.” Just 29% would” make it easier for illegal immigrants to stay in the country and eventually become citizens.”
Those 29% aren’t the same 28 or 29% who still support the president on the war. He’s trading his actual base for a fair-weather base that will desert him this fall, when Iraq funding is up for a vote again. By then, he’ll have spent weeks or months smearing his actual base as a bunch of bigoted boobs. He really ought to think through what he’s doing.
Overall, despite a major push by the President and others over the past week, support for the Senate bill has not increased at all. In polling conducted last night (Tuesday, May 29), 26% of voters favor passage of the bill. That’s unchanged from the 26% support found in polling conducted the previous Monday and Tuesday. Forty-eight percent (48%) of voters remain opposed.
Eighty-one percent (81%) of American voters are closely following news stories about the issue, including 37% who are following it Very Closely. Those with the highest interest in the issue oppose the legislation by a 3-to-1 margin (69% to 23%). By a 55% to 15% margin, those following the story Very Closely believe the bill will lead to increased levels of illegal immigration.
Distilled, the bill is a turkey and most of America knows it. Or, most of America doesn’t want “what’s right for America.” Take your pick, Republicans. Take your pick, Mr. President.
(h/t NRO)
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Thinking isn’t on his schedule. See, he’s under the impression that you have to drain your approval rating to 0%, before you leave Washington.
amerpundit on May 30, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Our government is awesome.
Bush - about 30% approval
Congress - about 30% approval
Illegal immigration Bill - about 16% approval
Is there -anything- the government is currently doing correctly?
lorien1973 on May 30, 2007 at 12:01 PM
I’m not gonna say a word if the Dems move for the Chimpeachment they’ve wanted for so long if this bill passes.
Bad Candy on May 30, 2007 at 12:03 PM
I’ve (belatedly) come to the conclusion that Bush thinks he is correct, and history will see him as so… and that the American People are chuckle heads….
He now truly irritates me every time I see him… these are very serious times, with serious issues, and he gets that little smirk on his face when speaking… no wonder our enemies, internal and external, will not take him seriously.
Romeo13 on May 30, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Here, here!
heatherrc77 on May 30, 2007 at 12:06 PM
I’m not gonna say a word if the Dems move for the Chimpeachment they’ve wanted for so long if this bill passes.
Bad Candy
The truly cynical side of me says that he’s backing this bill for the express purpose of avoiding impeachment.
Krydor on May 30, 2007 at 12:08 PM
Impeachment? Good Lord, we are beginning to sound like DU’s or KO’s.
And exactly what “high crime or misdemeanor” would you recommend to begin the impeachment process?
BacaDog on May 30, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Apparently that 16% wields a LOT of power over Congress…
SouthernGent on May 30, 2007 at 12:26 PM
It is a shocker that the number is as high as 16%.
Not quite as shocking as a third of Dems being truthers.
Bryan, thanks for your insight on our president. Unless this monstrosity meets the fate of Harriet Miers and the Dubai Port Deal, it is game over. The GOP will have written off its base for a generation.
Valiant on May 30, 2007 at 12:32 PM
And exactly what “high crime or misdemeanor” would you recommend to begin the impeachment process?
BacaDog
I think it’s a more hedging his bets thing.
Krydor on May 30, 2007 at 12:39 PM
Why would they impeach Bush? He’s the best thing to happen to the Democrats since the New Deal.
Lehosh on May 30, 2007 at 12:44 PM
Hedging against what? His poll numbers sure aren’t going to get better by supporting this abortion.
I just don’t get this impeachment talk. I challenge anyone here to name one crime Bush has committed that merits impeachment. Just one.
BacaDog on May 30, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Remember, liberals don’t need real charges to impeach any more than they need real facts to support their inanities. All they need is 51% of the vote in the House.
While I don’t believe an impeachment trial would have any better chance in the Senate (where it needs a 2/3 vote to convict) than the Clinton impeachment ever did, consider the following:
They won’t just impeach Bush, they’ll impeach Cheney as well. And if they do somehow manage to bribe, blackmail, or browbeat enough Senate Republicans to get them convicted and removed, we’ll be looking at President (gag) Pelosi.
Lancer on May 30, 2007 at 1:00 PM
The anti-war movement can go on all day repeating the “Bush lied” mantra, but it is not a crime to act on inaccurate intellegence.
It’s pure idiocy to think the House or Senate will bring an impeachment action against Bush. Based on what?
Besides, how can they continuously paint him as a chimp-moron while admitting he’s a mastermind of deceit?
BacaDog on May 30, 2007 at 1:11 PM
No, they won’t impeach Bush, they’ll go after Karl Rove. The Dems keep telling us Rove is the puppetmaster. Well, according to the LATimes, anyway.
kiakjones on May 30, 2007 at 1:15 PM
More good news. President Bush is giving a speech on how to send more of our money to Africa to fight an AIDs epidemic to a bunch of people who will probably die from malaria before that happens. Why not just set a ferry service so they can advantage of this wonderful immigration plan? There are millions of people who would love to come here and take those jobs the current crop of illegals are doing if only all they had to do was walk across a border instead of going through the trouble of getting airplane tickets or boat transportation and then having to go through that long line at the customs counter and the TSA.
LakeRuins on May 30, 2007 at 1:22 PM
BacaDog on May 30, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Failure to stop the invasion of the USA by a foreign country, Mexico-Felony and violation of his oath of office.
Aiding and Abetting Illegal Immigration-Felony
Creating the North American Union without a legal vote in Congress-Treason
I could list his high crimes and misdemeanors all day long with regards to immigration.
ScottyDog on May 30, 2007 at 1:55 PM
Points to keep in mind:
1) Why should President Bush care about his approval rating? No one is ever going to vote for him again regardless of that rating.
2) Any action is a crime worthy of impeachment if a majority in the House of Representatives says it is. There is no other standard.
3) Romeo13 has the correct take. Bush believes our southern border is morally wrong. It’s not about trading the base, or getting votes, or avoiding impeachment.
Annoying Old Guy on May 30, 2007 at 1:56 PM
I say, since 10% of their population is already living here, and they’re claiming that this is their native land…
You know, we’ve been thinking the solution to this whole problem is to build a security wall. How about we just annex Mexico instead and make it part of Texas?
fusionaddict on May 30, 2007 at 1:58 PM
Worst. Political. Instincts. Ever.
thirteen28 on May 30, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Nice rhetoric, Scotty, but not one of your examples is accurate. Cite any source proving Bush ordered anyone, anywhere, at any time to not enforce immigration law.
Granted, Bush promotes the expansion of NAFTA, and has met with Canadian and Mexican senior officials to advance policy common to our countries, but there is no North American Union. It doesn’t exist.
You’re right Old Guy. Due to the lack of a clear definition as to the meaning of “high” in “high crimes” Congress can basically determine what constitutes a “high crime”.
I would hope that common sense and a grave responsibility for the good of the country would prevent the House from inventing a crime and indicting the President. It’s a big freakin deal, and I don’t think the American people would take lightly the irresponsible use of impeachment to deliver a political blow.
Look, I hate the bill as much as anyone and I do not support Bush on this one. He’s wrong, but it’s a far cry from an impeachable offense.
BacaDog on May 30, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Is there EVER anything the government does right???
How about the crime of STUPIDITY????
And as for annexing Me-he-co, yeah, great idea. Texas is already educating half of mexico for free, on my dime, so we might as well make it legit. heh.
pullingmyhairout on May 30, 2007 at 2:32 PM
This is exactly what’s currently wrong with how most Americans view Bush’s actions. It seems most believe he just hasn’t “thought it through” or that he simply “believes it’s the right thing to do.”
Bush has been thinking this through for years. So has his father. So have most of those Senators who support the bill. They know exactly what they’re doing, and they know it has absolutely nothing to do with “doing what’s right” or gaining the Hispanic vote.
But, the truth will send many HotAir readers into a frenzy of name calling. Don’t dare accuse Bush of making deals with the Mexican government, or of any desires for an NAU. That’s all conspiracy nonsense. Of course, ask any of those same readers to give their own reasonable explanation for it all and they just scratch their heads and say “it makes no sense.”
“Think it through?” Does anyone really believe Bush is just rushing this through without any thought? And O.J. is innocent.
Gregor on May 30, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Michelle answered that perfectly on today’s blog:
Pres
Gregor on May 30, 2007 at 3:01 PM
BacaDog on May 30, 2007 at 2:13 PM
How many more crimes would he have to commit before you would hold him accountable?
BTW-S1348 has a provision for the North American Union on page 211
BacaDog, you are in denial. Either you are naive or you a koolaid drinking bushbot. 81% of the American people know that the Senate is trying sellout America but you refuse to acknowledge that GWB has been leading the charge.
There are numerous examples of Bush ordering enforcement of the borders to stand down. The most recent is the fact that only 2 miles of border fence has been built even though 1 billion has been set aside for fence.
Who do think has enough power to stop the fence being built even though it has been signed into law?
ScottyDog on May 30, 2007 at 3:05 PM
ScottyDog, from your link:
My comment stands. Where is the crime by Bush? It’s in a bill. Congress must vote on it.
Not in denial at all Scotty. I dislike and disagree with many of GWB’s positions of late, particularly the idiotic immigration bill he’s pushing. Along with about 80% of the population, I hate the damn thing, and cannot stomach the idea of it’s passage.
Cite one. Show me one example where Bush has said we will not enforce our borders.
Honestly, do you think these 11 million or 20 million (pick a source) illegal immigrants appeared overnight? Our immigration problems began with that lousy bill passed by Congress and signed by Reagan in 1986. Reagan and our Congress opened the door, Clinton held it open, and Bush is just the latest doorstop.
Congress. The money isn’t there as it was never funded. If you want the damn fence built, call your Congressman.
ScottyDog, I am against the proposed immigration legislation with every fiber of my being. Bush and our Congress are wrong on this and a large majority of American’s say they are.
My original comment was regarding impeachment, not whether I like or dislike GWB’s policies. As a Republican, I don’t.
The point I was trying to toss out for discussion is whether Bush has committed a “crime” worthy of impeachment.
I still say there is no evidence he has committed a crime that rises to that level. He may be making idiotic policy decisions, but that has never qualified a President for impeachment. If there is a crime, let the proceeding begin. If not, then let’s not act like hysterical DU or KO nutroots by screeching rhetoric with no facts. That’s all.
With all of the above, however, if there were a recall provision in the Constitution, I’d be right there with you.
BacaDog on May 30, 2007 at 4:50 PM
Related:
There is an anti-amnesty march planned . . .
MARCH FOR AMERICA, JUNE 14 - 16, 2007
June 14th (D.C)- No Amnesty, “Operation Body Count/Buck Stops Here” -
Event Times: 11am - 5pm
June 15th (D.C.)- No Amnesty, “All American Day/Stop The North American Union”
Event times: 10am - 2pm
June 16th (U.S.A)- No Amnesty, “March for America”. Americans nationwide
march forth in unison to offer their direct opposition to Amnesty.Nationwide Times:
* East Coast 1pm - 6pm EST
* Central 12pm - 5pm CST
* Mountain 11am - 4pm MST
* West Coast 10am - 3pm PST
heroyalwhyness on May 30, 2007 at 6:00 PM
How about not prosecuting criminals (illegal aliens)to the extent of the laws. Thus he is not protecting the constitution of the USA, something he has sworn to a judge to do. Lying to a judge is against the law, ask Clenis.
Wade on May 30, 2007 at 6:25 PM
He failed to demand the installation of secular Constitutions and a U.S.-style Bill of Rights in Afghanistan and Iraq, which makes them failed countries (”Islamic states”), from our international security perspective.
And now he tries to destroy our national security with this farce of an “immigration reform”.
I know he stopped drinking.
Maybe he needs a glass of something.
Zam Zam water, perhaps.
profitsbeard on May 30, 2007 at 8:34 PM
And just how is it Bush’s fault that St. Louis, San Fran, Norfolk, Va and many other cities took it upon themselves to be sanctuary cities and not enforce immigration law.
Cite me one source where Bush has implicitly ordered that immigration law is not to be enforced. The President cannot send national guard troops to a city without declaring a state of emergency. He also cannot order the superintendent of State Police in a state, or your local constable to arrest anyone.
Enforcement of the law is the responsibility of the judicial branch of government, not the executive branch.
I am not a Bush apologist, I just get tired of the “impeach” mantra when someone does not agree with policy.
BacaDog on May 30, 2007 at 9:00 PM
Any talk about impeaching Bush is just payback for impeaching Clinton, the most successful sexual predator in history.
Mojave Mark on May 31, 2007 at 1:15 AM
BacaDog on May 30, 2007 at 9:00 PM
I agree but people are getting fed up and perhaps it would be a wakeup call to Bush to hear rumors of impeachment from his own party.
We passed Prop. 187 in California 13 years ago to cut off public assistance to illeagal aliens. That was the overwhelming will of the people here…It was thrown out 4 years later in Federal court as “unconstitutional”. As a white male in California I am now the statistical minority. We are currently graduating the stupidest high school students in the world. Our state legislators (democrat) have lowered the high school exit exams to a 51% passing grade and they still can’t graduate. People who want higher standards on testing are called racist here. Those of us who can afford it have put our kids in private schools (while still paying taxes to educate Mexico’s children unsuccessfully). You can not go anywhere in this state without seeing spray paint on something or near a Home Depot that doesn’t have 200 illegals loitering on a nearby corner. There are Mexicans lined up around the block at social security and welfare offices here every day of the week and 40% of my income goes in taxes.
What’s the new label I have now? Oh yea “nativist”. It’s hard to keep track…I have so many.
repvoter on June 1, 2007 at 6:11 PM