Video: Jihad Watch on the thickening fog of war

posted at 8:00 am on May 29, 2007 by Bryan

Robert examines the recent Pew poll that revealed substantial support for suicide bombings among Muslims in the US.

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Good video. But I wonder why the poll figure of 60% of American Muslims not believing that Arabs were responsible for the September 11 attacks wasn’t mentioned.

greggish on May 29, 2007 at 9:17 AM

It looks like Ibrahim “Honest Abe” Hooper has a new look for his TV appearances.

forest on May 29, 2007 at 9:40 AM

It is reassuring that most Muslims have assimilated into our culture fairly well. However, we all know what a small group of fanatical Muslims are capable of and when you’re dealing with a enemy that is willing to die in their effort to kill as many as possible in the name of Allah, well, it’s quite clear that we must remain vigilant and not get too comfortable.

Yakko77 on May 29, 2007 at 9:45 AM

300,000 Muslims living in America that support violent jihad, perhaps its time we reconsider Roosevelt’s strategy of internment camps.

doriangrey on May 29, 2007 at 10:19 AM

The first question in every media analyst’s mind should have been this: “What do Muslim groups plan to do to combat the spread of the jihadist ideology of Islamic supremacism among Muslims in America.”

Robert, you must not have gotten the memo. The question on many “media analysts” minds is “What is the Government going to do to combat the tsunami-like rise of Islamophobia and Muslim persecution in America.”

Fog, indeed. Thanks, Hoop.

eeyore on May 29, 2007 at 10:24 AM

Why would the MSM not take Mr. Spencers writings and video clips and run them all over on every channel? I know the answer is Duhhhh, But really why not? WTF is wrong with these people? Are there heads so far up their buts or in the sand that they really don’t see this danger? I for one am baffled.

abinitioadinfinitum on May 29, 2007 at 10:31 AM

I’m really surprised this muslim woman even agreed to appear on a program along with Emmerson, he never holds back and always tells it how it is. Emmerson is one of the very few to speak out honestly about the global jihad, along with Robert Spencer of course. The MSM is scary stupid when it comes to covering the global jihad, although Tucker Carlson is one of the few on a channel that is full of appologists.

NeverSubmit on May 29, 2007 at 10:39 AM

What always disgusts me about these Muslim apologist groups is their willingness to lie, lie, lie about anything and everything to advance their agenda. As a society, we will never be able to make any progress with these people as long as they refuse to be honest about their actions and beliefs.

infidel4life on May 29, 2007 at 10:46 AM

I sustain on commenting about the “Religion of Peace”, due to the possible ramifications of a lawsuit.

KCtheKat on May 29, 2007 at 10:54 AM

Our goal should be to make a broad delineation between the Muslims who support terrorism and those Muslims that shun terrorism. Those who shun it should be publicly praised and those who are apathetic or outward supporters should be publicly criticized. It’s time to demand they pick a side.

csdeven on May 29, 2007 at 10:55 AM

LOL, Where you’ve you been, csdeven? Are you just now coming to realization? Hello Infidel meet Islam.

KCtheKat on May 29, 2007 at 11:00 AM

Don’t worry csdeven, I’m just tap dancing around your comment. 1400 years of history speaks volumes about the true intention of Islam. It’s not your fault we’ve all followed the Politically Correct path of forgiveness. Just remember, history does indeed repeat itself.

KCtheKat on May 29, 2007 at 11:10 AM

300,000 Muslims living in America that support violent jihad, perhaps its time we reconsider Roosevelt’s strategy of internment camps.

doriangrey on May 29, 2007 at 10:19 AM

Internment camps=concentration camps. If our government ever resorted back to this policy (what they did with the Japanese in WW2) you would find resistance from not only most minority groups, but also spiritual ones as well (Jewish, Christian, etc.).

Our goal should be to make a broad delineation between the Muslims who support terrorism and those Muslims that shun terrorism. Those who shun it should be publicly praised and those who are apathetic or outward supporters should be publicly criticized. It’s time to demand they pick a side.

csdeven on May 29, 2007 at 10:55 AM

A better idea by far. Besides, Islam is a religion, not specifically a race, and rounding up people based on appearance would not only be ineffective, but also increase Al Qadea’s recruitment levels.

Darnell Clayton on May 29, 2007 at 11:15 AM

Mr. Spencer and Mr. Emerson are our knights in shining armor!

It’s gratifying to witness the much deserved blow-back and back-fire to CAIR’s strategic attempt to gain from this Pew poll. Members of the RoP can attempt to SPIN this poll but all they’ll get is whirled P’s (not world peace).

heroyalwhyness on May 29, 2007 at 11:17 AM

300,000 Muslims living in America that support violent jihad, perhaps its time we reconsider Roosevelt’s strategy of internment camps.

doriangrey on May 29, 2007 at 10:19 AM

Well, maybe someday dori? But until then, all Muslims are getting the hairy eyeball from me….

For those unfamiliar with the Hairy Eyeball;

A glance made with partially lowered eyelids. This usually indicates suspicion or hostility but may signal other emotions too.

soulsirkus on May 29, 2007 at 11:36 AM

Our goal should be to make a broad delineation between the Muslims who support terrorism and those Muslims that shun terrorism. Those who shun it should be publicly praised and those who are apathetic or outward supporters should be publicly criticized. It’s time to demand they pick a side.

csdeven on May 29, 2007 at 10:55 AM

All well and good, but our experience should tell us that if we take this approach, magically all will shun terrorism and will publically speak out against it. Behind the scenes and in private, the support for terrorism against the West will continue.

What they have learned about a large portion of the American public (and Government) is Tell them what they want to hear and they will forget all else. Placate them with platitudes, so they will go back to their everyday lives thinking that they are safe.

Even if a large segment of American Muslims were to all of a sudden march en masse against radical Islam, would it mean anything? Would it mean anything coming 6 years later? It should have happened before the end of September 2001.

ej_pez on May 29, 2007 at 12:21 PM

For those unfamiliar with the Hairy Eyeball;

A glance made with partially lowered eyelids. This usually indicates suspicion or hostility but may signal other emotions too.

I’m never shaving my eyeballs again.

saint kansas on May 29, 2007 at 12:36 PM

Darnell Clayton,

Spoken like a true liberal Islamofascist apologist, I suggest you do a little non-revisionist historical research. The Roosevelt internment camps were nothing even remotely similar to concentration camps. Now pardon me for the smack down but this article from Michelle Malkin pretty much says it all.


Michelle Malkin

doriangrey on May 29, 2007 at 12:39 PM

Great Vent Robert Spencer!

The fundamental issue is that Islam is incompatable with democracy and tolerance of others. Islam is based on complete acceptance and obedience to it’s scripture, which includes directives to convert, conquer, or kill the infidel, among other issues (including unequal treatment of women).

All Muslims either actively support jihad or are in passive support, if nothing else by their lack of confrontation violent assault. Those that we would consider “moderate” are not Muslims at all, but apostates.

The solution is to create the enviroment for an “Islamic Reformation” that will allow “Muslims” to modify their religion without fear. Any attempt at that effort without a method to protect those who pursue such a path would surely result in immediate threats, intimidation, and lead to violet assault no matter where they are.

“Islamic Reformation” is the key to turning millions away from a cult that will use deceit and treachery without hesitation. We cannot believe a word the Muslim says because their core text advocates such methods with the “infidel”.

omegaram on May 29, 2007 at 12:53 PM

soulsirkus on May 29, 2007 at 11:36 AM

Thats a good one.

For those unfamiliar with the Hairy Eyeball;

A glance made with partially lowered eyelids. This usually indicates suspicion or hostility but may signal other emotions too.
I’m never shaving my eyeballs again.

saint kansas on May 29, 2007 at 12:36 PM

Thats an even better one
ROFL LMAO

abinitioadinfinitum on May 29, 2007 at 12:59 PM

Another good one for Robert Spencer. Really, though, the guy needs more than 5 minutes.

Name the enemy, and there might be a reduction in people sympathetic to the Jihadist ideology.

Krydor on May 29, 2007 at 1:13 PM

Name the enemy, and there might be a reduction in people sympathetic to the Jihadist ideology.

Krydor on May 29, 2007 at 1:13 PM

Exactly. Robert and others have been pretty good about naming the enemy, but out political class has been very slow and very timid in doing so – much to everybody’s danger.

thirteen28 on May 29, 2007 at 1:43 PM

Personally, I am tremendously reassured by this Pew poll which reveals that only one out of twenty Muslims at the closest mosque to my Metro station want to blow themselves up on my train. Those 40% of the Muslims who believe that Arab Muslims perpetrated Sep 11 does quite a bit to support the argument that Muslims are not so poisoned by religious bigotry that they can’t think rationally.

Tantor on May 29, 2007 at 5:17 PM

Tantor lets hope it is not another taqiyya.

I don’t find any comfort in this at all. It only took 19 young male muslims to murder 3,000 people on 9-11.

pabo on May 29, 2007 at 6:55 PM

I agree that somehow Vent should be more visable. New members aren’t going to know its a video from the front page because right now it looks the same as all the blog posts.

Emilie H. on May 29, 2007 at 7:25 PM

Great Vent Robert (as always), thanks

I have several of Steven Emerson’s books and have read his work for decades. Good guy, well sourced.

300,000 possible bad guys, mmmmm, I guess we’ll all be seeing a lot of hairy eyeballs from our fellow patriots…

Zorro on May 29, 2007 at 8:18 PM

If you can stomach it

Olberduche has Gore on to talk about war

William Amos on May 29, 2007 at 10:32 PM

Hey Bryan, didn’t the Union place soldiers in Churches of the occupied South? Making sure there were no more uprising or anti-Union speeches?

Drtuddle on May 29, 2007 at 11:16 PM

Darnell Clayton,

Spoken like a true liberal Islamofascist apologist, I suggest you do a little non-revisionist historical research. The Roosevelt internment camps were nothing even remotely similar to concentration camps. Now pardon me for the smack down but this article from Michelle Malkin pretty much says it all.

Michelle Malkin

doriangrey on May 29, 2007 at 12:39 PM

Typical of extremists (on the left and right). They call you names, then give you their “facts.”

But I do have to admit that you’re right doriangrey. The internment camps were not as bad as the concentration camps, but they were racially motivated like them.

I did read Michelle’s article, and although she tries to make an argument drawing the parallels between Jihadists and the Japanese threat of the day, the argument for internment camps is still very weak dealing with the former.

I am not sure if you understand, but Islam is a religion which goes beyond race. Using race as a factor is foolish because not every Arab (or even Israeli which can look similar) is a Muslim.

And even if you could identify them via facial features, there is no way our country would accept internment camps, the reason Michelle got in trouble on Bill O’Reilly a year ago. (fast forward video to 1:30)

God bless…

~Darnell

Darnell Clayton on May 29, 2007 at 11:54 PM

These numbers are pretty close the the Dhemocrat party poll numbers about 9-11 and the justification of terrorism. Hmm?

From the video; Of course she’s going to lie… It’s in the Koran.

Mojave Mark on May 30, 2007 at 1:52 AM

Can you fix the aspect ratio of this video? It clearly needs anamorphic correction (see the distortion for proof).

aynrandgirl on May 30, 2007 at 4:17 AM

It is reassuring that most Muslims Mexicans have assimilated into our culture fairly well. However, we all know what a small group of fanatical Muslims Mexicans (LaRaza) are capable of and when you’re dealing with a enemy that is willing to die in their effort to kill as many as possible in the name of Allahillegally sneak into a country, well, it’s quite clear that we must remain vigilant and not get too comfortable.

Yakko77 on May 29, 2007 at 9:45 AM

A couple of changes and we can use this in another post.

right2bright on May 30, 2007 at 10:06 AM

What always disgusts me about these Muslim apologist groups is their willingness to lie, lie, lie about anything and everything to advance their agenda. As a society, we will never be able to make any progress with these people as long as they refuse to be honest about their actions and beliefs.

infidel4life on May 29, 2007 at 10:46 AM

They live by a different moral standard than we do, this is a hard thing for us Christian Americans to understand as we were raised to be good boys and girls and not to lie, cheat or steal. Throw our PCness on top of it, and the situation is a mess, we’re children against men who would sell their mothers, wives and daughters to get what they want.

4shoes on May 30, 2007 at 12:32 PM

Darnell Clayton,

I am not sure if you understand, but Islam is a religion which goes beyond race. Using race as a factor is foolish because not every Arab (or even Israeli which can look similar) is a Muslim.

You are the only one blathering on about race, I consider all Muslims to be a threat. I suggest that you read….

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_Prologue.Islam

Somehow I seriously doubt that you will, or if you do that you will take it seriously.

doriangrey on May 30, 2007 at 1:30 PM

You are the only one blathering on about race, I consider all Muslims to be a threat.

doriangrey on May 30, 2007 at 1:30 PM

And thus is the reason that you remain “blind.” Islam is a religion, not a race! How are you going to round up people who can look like anyone?

If you ever took the time to visit Israel (which is a great nation by the way) you would realize why they do not profile based on race as it is pointless with major faiths.

Doriangrey, what do you suggest on doing? Rounding up every Muslim and shipping them off to Alaska?

No offense, but your reasoning is bordering that of Daily Kos.

Darnell Clayton on May 30, 2007 at 4:34 PM