abinitioadinfinitum – welcome home! Good to see another NOLA native come back! If you’re in the Lakeview area let me know, my church has been doing a lot of volunteer work in that area via Beacon of Hope and there may be some way we can serve you.

abinitioadinfinitum

I can honestly say most of them that I have met are very hard working and from what I can tell are all good people. That is not the point.

I hate to pick on you, but this is the point. I cringe everytime I hear someone or Bush say “these are good people.” No they aren’t.

“Good people” don’t ignore laws. These people break our immigration laws by coming here. Just a few examples.

1) They bring children, their children get a free education, free breakfast, and a free lunch program. All paid by taxpayers.

2) They don’t have a family care doctor, they overload our ER system. This again if on the backs of honest taxpayers. These “good people” have caused closures of hospitals in border towns & small towns all across this country.

3) They drive without a driver’s license or insurance. Once again disregarding the laws.

4) They don’t pay their fair share of taxes, relying on US citizens and our taxes to provide for them.

I want them to be good citizens of Mexico and stay there and change laws there. I never wanted to live in Mexico and don’t want this country changed to reward people who break laws.

I also agree with the late, Cal. Rep. Sonny Bono’s, take on this matter.

Asked to debate illegal immigration, Sonny replied: “What’s to debate? It’s illegal.”

Of course you can. Get Ray Nagin’s school buses. Have anyone stopped for a bum tail light that is an illegal held without bond at the county hoosegow until the bus returns from its most recent trip to Laredo. (And the county can send the Feds the bill). Round ‘em up in heavily illegal areas such as LA. If we are serious about enforcing the law, then ENFORCE THE LAW! That is what Americans expect.

Sure we can give amnesty, but not to the immigrants. “Mr. business-owner, we won’t seize your assets and throw you into a cell for employing illegals prior to January 1, 2008. After that, give your soul to the devil because the rest of you belongs to us.” Simple.

secure our damn borders…then we’ll talk you fools!

Fines.

Patrols.

Enforcement.

Repeat, and rinse.

I agree and add (as someone else did), cut off social services, amend the Constitution so that the 14th Amendment isn’t so blanket, and make it known that illegals caught here will have a hard time finding a job or getting citizenship.

People test boundaries and so do kids; they take them for granted until they realise that there are genuine consequences for breaking the rules. What message do we send with this passive attitude about our sovereignty?

That is the tipping point.

Use illegal aliens own countrymen to take the jobs they will eventually lose to enforcement. Or not, we do not need Hispanic immigrants. Our potential sources for labor are global, not Latin American.

Hmmm. That’s an interesting point.

Is it an “execution” if we install machine gun towers very 100 yards along the border and fire on “invaders” attempting to invade America? It seems to me that’s called repelling an invasion and the last time I checked, that’s allowed under Article 51 of the UN Charter.

After all, it’s not an “execution” unless the are in our custody and under our jucidial control…..

Just kidding, folks…..

georgej on May 27, 2007 at 9:33 PM

You seem to have a lot of these little “jokes”.

I prefer: “Potestas Democraticorum delenda est!” because I hope to see in my lifetime the Democratic party outlawed, its leadership imprisoned for treason, it’s assets confiscated, and DNC headquarters imploded and leveled and replaced by a hot dog stand.
georgej on May 25, 2007 at 1:47 AM

I look forward to the day when one of his guests brings a Louisville Slugger to the show and play HARDBALL with his mush-filled head. That’d be worth the price of cable for a year!
georgej on May 23, 2007 at 4:01 AM

And by the way please explain where in Article 51 it says it is okay to cut unarmed persons trying to cross the border?
Article 51
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.

It does seem that the Federal government is ignoring us.

A Protein Wisdom commenter linked to an article at Science Daily that discusses how people register information: the more times you hear an opinion, even if it’s from the same person over and over again, the more popular you believe that opinion is.

Given what the Left does with HA articles on Digg, I’m not surprised that Congress thinks the whole country has tipped Left. They probably hear from the two sides in about the same proportions that Digg does.

That local governments have passed laws lately trying to mitigate what DC is doing is a hopeful sign. Not sure it’s enough though….

If the Senate tries to go forward with this abomination a black rain will fall and Senators have had that explained to them very well in the last few days.

Those who broke the law in this issue can not be appeased and Americans will not tolerate the appeasement of those who broke the law.

Such a simple concept to grasp, I’m sure even Edward Morrow Kennedy can conceive of it.

Isn’t the fix already in? Bush will sign it, a bipartisan Senate drafted the bill, every single challenge has already been soundly defeated, etc.

Are people out there just bitching and moaning, but in the end, it’s going to be passed anyway, pretty much intact from what was originally agreed upon?

that’s allowed under Article 51 of the UN Charter

If the Pres. were to declare a national emergency a whole lot of things could/would change.

I don’t see it happening.

Considering some earlier posts and the consequences, kidding might not be a good idea.

Hmmm. That’s an interesting point.

Is it an “execution” if we install machine gun towers very 100 yards along the border and fire on “invaders” attempting to invade America? It seems to me that’s called repelling an invasion and the last time I checked, that’s allowed under Article 51 of the UN Charter.

After all, it’s not an “execution” unless the are in our custody and under our jucidial control…..

Just kidding, folks…..

You can call/email/write your senators and representatives till you are blue in the face.

I realize it may seem that way but its not true.
American citizens have had a tremendous impact on the immigration debate and continue to do so.

Yes there are heavy influences arrayed against us but believe me a blanket amnesty would have occurred long ago were it not for yours and my involvement.

This is truly a never give up time in our history, call, call, call, write, write, write let our elected leaders know what you expect them to do, the more eloquently the better.

Pro America activists should all pat themselves on the back, they deserve it!

Look what the Left’s pursuit of power, and the Ferengi on the right in pursuit of short term profit, have done to our country.