Comments on: Finally: Scientists set to start human trials on suspended animation http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:56:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: animation » Blog Archive » Finally: Scientists set to start human trials on suspended animation - Hot Air http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-519183 animation » Blog Archive » Finally: Scientists set to start human trials on suspended animation - Hot Air Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:10:10 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-519183 [...] I thought the whole point of suspended animation was that it slows or stops aging. Not so:. So far it has worked on pigs, sending them into a state of … Source http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/ [...] [...] I thought the whole point of suspended animation was that it slows or stops aging. Not so:. So far it has worked on pigs, sending them into a state of … Source http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/ [...]

]]> By: Kralizec http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-430166 Kralizec Mon, 28 May 2007 16:19:32 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-430166 I think the science writer is confused about the development being mostly related to space voyages, or else he felt compelled to use space voyages as a hook. At any rate, someone did try to explain the real point of the work to him:<blockquote>The mixture puts the human body into hibernation by slowing the metabolism, <strong>delaying the onset of shock and limiting wound damage</strong>, said researcher Hasan Alam, a surgeon at Massachusetts general hospital and <strong>a consultant to the U.S. army</strong>.</blockquote>The main purpose for the near future appears to be to improve outcomes for trauma patients, included wounded soldiers. Still, I venture to add that it seems anything that works "by slowing the metabolism" will probably slow aging, inasmuch as researchers seem to be converging on the opinion that much of our decline with age is due to side-effects of energy metabolism. This site may be a good starting point for anyone who wants to know more about that. http://www.sens.org/ I think the science writer is confused about the development being mostly related to space voyages, or else he felt compelled to use space voyages as a hook. At any rate, someone did try to explain the real point of the work to him:
The mixture puts the human body into hibernation by slowing the metabolism, delaying the onset of shock and limiting wound damage, said researcher Hasan Alam, a surgeon at Massachusetts general hospital and a consultant to the U.S. army.

The main purpose for the near future appears to be to improve outcomes for trauma patients, included wounded soldiers. Still, I venture to add that it seems anything that works “by slowing the metabolism” will probably slow aging, inasmuch as researchers seem to be converging on the opinion that much of our decline with age is due to side-effects of energy metabolism. This site may be a good starting point for anyone who wants to know more about that.

http://www.sens.org/

]]> By: Dash http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-429843 Dash Mon, 28 May 2007 13:24:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-429843 Glen Reynolds book Army Of Davids has a chapter on slowing/stopping the aging process in various ways that is not that far off according to some. This would compliment that I suppose. If you live to 500, this wouldnt be as big a deal to you theoretically. Still I'm surprised the benefits are so few, bummer. Glen Reynolds book Army Of Davids has a chapter on slowing/stopping the aging process in various ways that is not that far off according to some. This would compliment that I suppose.

If you live to 500, this wouldnt be as big a deal to you theoretically. Still I’m surprised the benefits are so few, bummer.

]]> By: Attila (Pillage Idiot) http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-429737 Attila (Pillage Idiot) Mon, 28 May 2007 12:12:40 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-429737 Wow! This could help people get through law school. Wow! This could help people get through law school.

]]> By: jummy http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-429249 jummy Mon, 28 May 2007 05:52:44 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-429249 <blockquote>The researchers also point out another potential difficulty: Human waste would have to be dealt with.</blockquote> onsidering the new plame memo revalation, maybe it can be saved up in barrells and chris matthews can EAT IT.

The researchers also point out another potential difficulty: Human waste would have to be dealt with.

onsidering the new plame memo revalation, maybe it can be saved up in barrells and chris matthews can EAT IT.

]]> By: profitsbeard http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-429176 profitsbeard Mon, 28 May 2007 05:01:47 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-429176 Al Gore's 90% there already, and, being as progressive, he should volunteer to go first. <em>Imagine the energy savings!</em> (Plus, he's got the body mass for about a safe 500 year nap.) Al Gore’s 90% there already, and, being as progressive, he should volunteer to go first.

Imagine the energy savings!

(Plus, he’s got the body mass for about a safe 500 year nap.)

]]> By: MirCat http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428840 MirCat Mon, 28 May 2007 01:32:06 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428840 <blockquote>Can Rosie be the first long term test subject? E L Frederick (Sniper One) on May 27, 2007 at 9:06 PM</blockquote> You must've not read the article close enough. - The Cat

Can Rosie be the first long term test subject?

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on May 27, 2007 at 9:06 PM

You must’ve not read the article close enough.

- The Cat

]]> By: E L Frederick (Sniper One) http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428802 E L Frederick (Sniper One) Mon, 28 May 2007 01:06:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428802 Can Rosie be the first long term test subject? Can Rosie be the first long term test subject?

]]> By: MirCat http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428722 MirCat Mon, 28 May 2007 00:25:32 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428722 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arj1yTjL4rc" rel="nofollow">obligatory</a> - The Cat obligatory

- The Cat

]]> By: RightOFLeft http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428708 RightOFLeft Mon, 28 May 2007 00:20:20 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428708 The point might be to cut down on the amount of food/oxygen you have to launch. Every kilogram you can scrimp saves money. The point might be to cut down on the amount of food/oxygen you have to launch. Every kilogram you can scrimp saves money.

]]> By: BillINDC http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428695 BillINDC Mon, 28 May 2007 00:12:57 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428695 <blockquote>They didn’t mention much about muscle atrophy </blockquote> <a href="http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/electrical-stimulation.html" rel="nofollow">Electric stimulation of the muscles.</a>

They didn’t mention much about muscle atrophy

Electric stimulation of the muscles.

]]> By: thedecider http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428654 thedecider Sun, 27 May 2007 23:48:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428654 <blockquote>naliaka on May 27, 2007 at 6:58 PM</blockquote> I had the same immediate thought about muscle atrophy. Won't do much good putting them to sleep if they only wake up years later as virtual paraplegics.

naliaka on May 27, 2007 at 6:58 PM

I had the same immediate thought about muscle atrophy. Won’t do much good putting them to sleep if they only wake up years later as virtual paraplegics.

]]> By: Buck Turgidson http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428603 Buck Turgidson Sun, 27 May 2007 23:16:11 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428603 Say Hi to Ted Williams' head for me. Say Hi to Ted Williams’ head for me.

]]> By: Buck Turgidson http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428599 Buck Turgidson Sun, 27 May 2007 23:13:39 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428599 Danger Will Robinson! Dr. Smith is up to his old tricks. Danger Will Robinson! Dr. Smith is up to his old tricks.

]]> By: naliaka http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428573 naliaka Sun, 27 May 2007 22:58:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428573 <blockquote>So in the model mentioned above, you’d leave a 25 year-old and be an extraordinairily healthy and biologically young (in a relative sense) sexagenarian. Still a bad deal. BillINDC on May 27, 2007 at 6:40 PM</blockquote> They didn't mention much about muscle atrophy ... Hope this isn't the same bunch who had that Biospherical dome in which they locked a band of cheerfully naive "atronauts" with a big ol' fancy-stocked greenhouse for two years and produced emaciated people and lots of cockroaches.

So in the model mentioned above, you’d leave a 25 year-old and be an extraordinairily healthy and biologically young (in a relative sense) sexagenarian.

Still a bad deal.

BillINDC on May 27, 2007 at 6:40 PM

They didn’t mention much about muscle atrophy … Hope this isn’t the same bunch who had that Biospherical dome in which they locked a band of cheerfully naive “atronauts” with a big ol’ fancy-stocked greenhouse for two years and produced emaciated people and lots of cockroaches.

]]> By: BillINDC http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428554 BillINDC Sun, 27 May 2007 22:43:29 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428554 (PS - Aging is certainly made up of more than those two things, but I'm simplifying) (PS – Aging is certainly made up of more than those two things, but I’m simplifying)

]]> By: BillINDC http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428548 BillINDC Sun, 27 May 2007 22:40:38 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428548 Aging is basically intrinsic programmed cellular <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senescence" rel="nofollow">senescence</a> (fairly significantly) influenced by accumulated environmental damage. It looks like suspended animation would largely eliminate the latter (assume perfect nutrition and stress-free environs) and blunt the former (assume <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction" rel="nofollow">calorie restriction</a>) So in the model mentioned above, you'd leave a 25 year-old and be an extraordinairily healthy and biologically young (in a relative sense) sexagenarian. Still a bad deal. Aging is basically intrinsic programmed cellular senescence (fairly significantly) influenced by accumulated environmental damage. It looks like suspended animation would largely eliminate the latter (assume perfect nutrition and stress-free environs) and blunt the former (assume calorie restriction)

So in the model mentioned above, you’d leave a 25 year-old and be an extraordinairily healthy and biologically young (in a relative sense) sexagenarian.

Still a bad deal.

]]> By: lorien1973 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/comment-page-1/#comment-428539 lorien1973 Sun, 27 May 2007 22:34:33 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/27/finally-scientists-set-to-start-human-trials-on-suspended-animation/#comment-428539 I predict this will the scene immediately after astronauts wake up from a 20 year sleep: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keqF8nTDSDA I predict this will the scene immediately after astronauts wake up from a 20 year sleep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keqF8nTDSDA

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